Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Yes, those are the parts needed. Follow the wiring chart. And, yes those wires in the cable are ultra-thin gauge. I found the best way to strip the insulation is just to use your fingernails to strip them... yep they're that fragile. The connector has screw terminals... but, I had trouble using them and wanted a more dependable connection. So, I soldered the wires to the pads on the underside of the board instead. It's kind of tedious, but doable with patience and some clamps to hold things while you solder. Picture attached. Good luck. Mine set up is working FB!
Joe,
Thank you for your reply.
I am ready to order both parts, but would like to know which exact parts you used...I think you mentioned a possibility or concern of wires breaking.
Here are the items I have in the cart right now to purchase:
Have you any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Dirk
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Joe,
Thank you for your reply.
I am ready to order both parts, but would like to know which exact parts you used...I think you mentioned a possibility or concern of wires breaking.
Here are the items I have in the cart right now to purchase:
Have you any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Dirk
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Dirk:
Earlier today I also posted an answer to your question and how I solved the same issue you're having. Not sure if you saw it. Yes, the correct cable is an Ameritron DB-10MY, which I also mentioned in my reply to your inquiry. The problem for me was that cable is out of stock nearly everywhere. I called Ameritron and they confirmed it was out of stock. Hopefully, they'll start producing them again soon. In the meantime, I had to build my own cable and provided you links to enable you to do the same. Good luck finding the right cable or building one.
Joe WW8X
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Kent I know what?you mean. I do build a lot of stuff, but when it comes to things like a control cable I'd rather buy premade instead of trying to round up the individual parts needed to make one. Coax, I'd much rather make my own, just antennas a baluns, but for a lot of things my time is a lot more important to me.?
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 12:02 PM Kent Trimble, K9ZTV < k9ztv@...> wrote:
Thanks, Eric.? I figured it was
just a typo.
But ...
Without casting aspersions on you or anyone else, permit me a
reflection (not even close to a rant):
Buying "pre-made" seems to be everyone's easy-way-out these
days, which, of course, teaches nothing.?
What could be simpler than tracing a wire from a pin on one end
to the appropriate pin on the other end and installing an
appropriate plug according to a pin-out diagram?
Sadly and invariably, the "pre-maders" are Extra Class
licensees.
Sad.? Very sad.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 11:21 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
Sorry that’s the acom cable. This one is the one I have but it’s
out of stock.
?
Eric D Clanton?
On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:37, Kent
Trimble, K9ZTV <k9ztv@...> wrote:
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That cable won't work at
all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).?
Nine pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install
a DB9 plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric
Clanton wrote:
This cable works well.
.
-- Eric D.Clanton DVM
1519 Pelham Rd
Jacksonville, AL 36265
256-435-8387
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"Life's tough......it's even tougher if you're stupid"?? -- John Wayne
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Kent,
Thank you for replying to my humble request for help in getting my?new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto and new Yaesu FT DX-10 to work well together.
My call sign is AJ6XW.
My name is Dirk.
After waiting many, many months, I am super excited to get my rig, amplifier, tuner, antenna, etc. all working well.? I have been working so hard to study, pass my exams, build antennas, etc.? I am a total rookie at amateur radio and I am learning a lot, often on a daily basis.
One of the first lessons I learned in amateur radio was that there are a lot of cranky, old fart operators that struggle with pride and arrogance as well as an overweening sense of superiority.? Most of them are incredibly negative and chronically toxic.? Yep, they make the terrible mistake of believing that the more they accumulate knowledge, the more superior they become.? They miss the truth that knowledge puffs up, but loves builds up!
Thank you for broadcasting in a manner that enables the entire world to see your rude, proud and arrogant attitude.? You should be ashamed of yourself Kent!? It is people like you that have given amateur radio a terrible name and reputation all over the world.
I just got off the phone with Palstar, and with politeness and courtesy they informed me that Palstar LA-1K will not work without a cable.? What a far cry from your replies!
In humility I came to this groupsio site and I asked a super simply request that was met with incredible rudeness and arrogance!? Wow, and this is my very first post/experience at groups.io.
Unfortunately, your reply was very similar to several of the posters at QRZ when I first started asking questions.? Most of the people at QRZ have been super kind and helpful, but others were in terrible bondage to chronic, toxic negativity and incredible levels of sickening pride and arrogance.
And now to help others that are in humility seeking the correct answer to the same question I asked:
My question: what specific cables are people using for the interface between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
The correct answer is: According to Palstar, the Palstar LA-1K will not work without a cable.? The LA-1K requires a special cable to work with the Yaesu FT DX-10.? The correct cable is:
Ameritron Band Data Interface Cables DB-10MY
I hope my post helps someone that purchased the same items as I did!
Have a nice day everyone!
PS.? Kent, I hate to pop your balloon, but you are not a fraction as big and important?and superior as you think you are.
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Thanks, Eric.? I figured it was
just a typo.
But ...
Without casting aspersions on you or anyone else, permit me a
reflection (not even close to a rant):
Buying "pre-made" seems to be everyone's easy-way-out these
days, which, of course, teaches nothing.?
What could be simpler than tracing a wire from a pin on one end
to the appropriate pin on the other end and installing an
appropriate plug according to a pin-out diagram?
Sadly and invariably, the "pre-maders" are Extra Class
licensees.
Sad.? Very sad.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 11:21 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
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Sorry that’s the acom cable. This one is the one I have but it’s
out of stock.
?
Eric D Clanton?
On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:37, Kent
Trimble, K9ZTV <k9ztv@...> wrote:
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That cable won't work at
all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).?
Nine pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install
a DB9 plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric
Clanton wrote:
This cable works well.
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Re: SWR High SSB ONLY - When Using LA-1K Amp
The 7300 was/is notorious for
overshoot, unless it's been corrected.?
The overshoot (RF output from the 7300 spiking considerably
higher than the LA-1K likes) causes the LA-1K to protect itself
by kicking to STBY.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 9:19 AM, Bob WB8CAC wrote:
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I had the same issue with my IC-7300. The LA-1K would frequently
kick out due to overdrive unless I ran the drive super low. Tried
3 different 7300s, same problem with all.? I understand the 7610
does it too.? Poor ALC design on Icom's part.? ?I finally gave up,
sold the 7300 and bought a FT-710.? No more problem.
73
Bob? WB8CAC
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
You give no call sign so one
cannot tell how experienced you might be with amateur radio, nor
can it be determined what you might be doing wrong because you
give no information as to what you are actually doing.
The LA-1K requires no interface cable.? It is RF sensing, which
means it automatically changes bands when it detects RF from a
transceiver.
The only reason for using an interface cable is if you want the
LA-1K to change bands AS you change bands on the transceiver.?
Since you are exciting it with a Yaesu rig, you would need to
install a female DB9 plug on one end of the interface cable for
insertion into the upper of the two DB9 (DE9 if you prefer)
jacks on the back of the LA-1K.? The other end of the cable
would need the Mini-DIN 10P plug which, according to page 8 of
the FTDX-10 manual, is an accessory available from Yaesu:? "Linear Amplifier Connection
Cable (Mini DIN 10P - Bare Wire)? SCU-28."
The "bare wire" means you must supply the DB9 plug and wire it
correctly.? Many are available, but I prefer the breakout
board plug from Winford:?
which is fast and
requires no soldering.
The model you want is "BRKEGD9F-T B" which uses spring
terminals (easier than screws), thumbscrews (no screw driver),
and revision B (much improved).
Are you
an SSB op or a CW op?? This makes a difference when it comes to
determining whether to use NORMAL mode or DIRECT mode.
You are welcome to email me so I can give you my phone number
and we can talk more specifically.
What we also need to discuss is how successfully you are using
the HF-AUTO.? Faults attributed to the LA-1K are often faults
detected by the HF-AUTO which, more often than not, are faults
lying within the overall antenna system.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
k9ztv@...
On 2/12/2023 10:53 PM, ddffbb22 via
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I everyone!
I recently purchased a brand new Palstar LA-1K and the Palstar
HF Auto.
I cannot get the Palstar LA-1K to work.? Not sure what I am
doing wrong. No wattage coming out of the Palstar LA-1K.
Can someone here please help me?
I have a new Yaesu FT-DX-10 that I am trying to work with the
Palstar LA-1K.
Here are my questions:
What would cause this message: Low +12 Volt Supply?
Also, what specific cables are people using for the interface
between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
Is it possible I received a new Palstar LA-1K that does not
work?
Thank you
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
Sorry that’s the acom cable. This one is the one I have but it’s out of stock.
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On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:37, Kent Trimble, K9ZTV <k9ztv@...> wrote:
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That cable won't work at all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).? Nine
pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install a DB9
plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
This cable works well.
.
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
That cable won't work at all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).? Nine
pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install a DB9
plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
This cable works well.
.
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Re: SWR High SSB ONLY - When Using LA-1K Amp
I had the same issue with my IC-7300. The LA-1K would frequently kick out due to overdrive unless I ran the drive super low. Tried 3 different 7300s, same problem with all.? I understand the 7610 does it too.? Poor ALC design on Icom's part.? ?I finally gave up, sold the 7300 and bought a FT-710.? No more problem.
73
Bob? WB8CAC
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
To key the amp you need to activate the PTT (push to talk). The FTDX10 doesn't have a PTT RCA jack, so you must use a specific cable,?refer to page 11 in the FTDX10 manual. I ran into the same issue of figuring out a way to key my amp. Unfortunately, the correct cable ( DB-10MY)?was not available at the time that I needed it (It still may not be). I had to make my own cable. Refer to these links to get an idea of what you may need to do if you can't locate the?correct cable. The cable referenced above (dxe-acomss-ysu10) may not work as it states the cable is for Acom amps only. But, if it really does work then you're good to go. I'm just not familiar with that cable.
This cable works well.
And yes call Palstar
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
This cable works well.
And yes call Palstar
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Re: Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
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I everyone!
I recently purchased a brand new Palstar LA-1K and the Palstar HF Auto.
I cannot get the Palstar LA-1K to work.? Not sure what I am doing wrong. No wattage coming out of the Palstar LA-1K.
Can someone here please help me?
I have a new Yaesu FT-DX-10 that I am trying to work with the Palstar LA-1K.
Here are my questions:
What would cause this message: Low +12 Volt Supply?
Also, what specific cables are people using for the interface between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
Is it possible I received a new Palstar LA-1K that does not work?
Thank you
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Re: SWR High SSB ONLY - When Using LA-1K Amp
Mine using the 7610 using 30 to 50 watts on a hex beam or vertical never goes to over drive then tried my 7100 from the mobile rig same results but if i forget and leave it on 100 it does. If If you ever find the problem let me know
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Brand new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto, can't get them to work...
I everyone!
I recently purchased a brand new Palstar LA-1K and the Palstar HF Auto.
I cannot get the Palstar LA-1K to work.? Not sure what I am doing wrong. No wattage coming out of the Palstar LA-1K.
Can someone here please help me?
I have a new Yaesu FT-DX-10 that I am trying to work with the Palstar LA-1K.
Here are my questions:
What would cause this message: Low +12 Volt Supply?
Also, what specific cables are people using for the interface between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
Is it possible I received a new Palstar LA-1K that does not work?
Thank you
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Re: SWR High SSB ONLY - When Using LA-1K Amp
One needs to look at TX overshoot...
On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 4:26 PM Joe Loverti WW8X < jloverti@...> wrote: My IC-7300 kept overdriving the LA-1K even with relatively low drive (30 watts), no matter what I did. Later, I heard the 7300's are prone to run hot and my 7300 seemed to be one certainly did. But, after I put my Yaesu?FTDX10 in line, the overdrive warnings went away. No problems since. Maybe it's an ICOM issue?? Joe WW8X
I have two LA-1K amps and two HF-AUTO tuners.
One pair is connected to my Flex6400 and the other pair is connected to my IC-7610
The pair connected to my Flex6400, I have no problems, full 1200 watts out on SSB, CW and RTTY
The pair connected to my IC-7610, the LA-1K keeps tripping out on SSB only if I run it over 500 watts. On CW and RTTY, solid 1200 watts.
I tested both set ups on all antennas, Dipole, Yagi, Vertical. No difference.
NE7X...
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Re: Digital modes and fast temperature rise
My LA-1K will do the 200-250 watts FT8 described by KT3V, but only on lower frequency bands - might actually do more, haven't tried that much lately.
But on 10 & 12 meters, it will only do about 175 watts (200w for awhile as temp increases) before getting into the mid 70 deg C range.
Am running mine on 120 Vac and never run it any higher than upper 70 deg C (and even then, only rarely and for a short time).
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Re: Digital modes and fast temperature rise
As I recall the continuous commercial service (CCS) rating for the LA-1K is about 225W output using 240VAC power line.? And the SWR needs to be as close to 1:1 as possible.? Depending on room temperature and humidity the LA-1K should run for weeks without overheating.? I typically run FT8 on any band without problems using 200-250 Watts output.?
KT3V
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Re: SWR High SSB ONLY - When Using LA-1K Amp
It is?an Icom issue unless they've corrected the 7300's overshoot problem.?
73, Kent K9ZTV
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On Feb 1, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Joe Loverti WW8X <jloverti@...> wrote:
My IC-7300 kept overdriving the LA-1K even with relatively low drive (30 watts), no matter what I did. Later, I heard the 7300's are prone to run hot and my 7300 seemed to be one certainly did. But, after I put my Yaesu?FTDX10 in line, the overdrive warnings went away. No problems since. Maybe it's an ICOM issue??
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Eric Clanton
Bob WB8CAC
Fred, W9KEY