¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

A Smith whose family interchangeably uses the surname Mac Gabhainn showed up as a new member to McGowan Surname Project. His DYS19 is 14-17. My first time seeing His DYS459 is 9-9 which matches to all other Cavan Smith of which I am aware. If I employ administrative tool ¡°Genetic Distance¡± to establish matches within project, 7 of 16 Cavan Smith show as Genetic Distance = 3. I am guessing that this person¡¯s DYS19 14-17 reflects a duplication plus divergence ? Butler et al., 2005 Forensic Sci.50:4 Chromosome Duplications Along the Y-Chromosome and Their Potential impact. Butler¡¯s paper documents at least 7 occurrences of duplications at DYS19 (DYS394) Am I above the target or off target ? SMITTY

A new paper led by Olade now in pre-print has only 1 new ancient U106+ individual (I2902) However, this individual is now the second oldest U106+ sample and is C14 dated to 2554-2202 calBCE. It has one positive read for U106 and one positive read for A2151 (which we call A2150). This clade is VERY small today but appears to be a very early branch of U106. This individual has been added to my U106 spreadsheet Ray

FYI, Dan Begin forwarded message: From: openSNP team <info@...> Date: March 31, 2025 at 8:26:49 AM EDT To: dan_draggon@... Subject: openSNP: We're shutting down. Thank you for your support ?Dear openSNP user, today we are writing to inform you about our plans for sunsetting openSNP on April 30, 2025. On this date, we will shut down the openSNP website and delete **all** the data that we have stored - this includes your email address, password and where applicable genetic and phenotypic data. With this most important bit out of the way, we want to briefly outline our reasoning: When we launched openSNP back in 2011, the world was a different place. Direct-To-Consumer (DTC) genetic testing was a still quite new and promising technology for research use. With openSNP, our goal was always to give people the choice to open up their own genetic data so that it can be used more widely for research, instead of mostly being used within the siloes of DTC companies and the 3rd parties that can afford paying for access to the data. In 2025, with 23andMe going bankrupt and struggling to even find any buyers for themselves and the data they control, it seems less clear what the use and potential benefit of these data is. While data hosted through openSNP has been used for a number of research studies, teaching workshops and university courses, and producing individual insight, this use has remained the exception. Instead, by far the most transformative impact of DTC genetic data has been found amongst law enforcement agencies, who have made extensive use of the geneological properties of genetic data, ultimately leading to DTC data platforms like GEDmatch being bought by forensics-related companies. In 2025, we are also seeing a global rise of authoritarian and far-right governments that are attacking not only free culture but that are also replacing scientific reasoning itself with pseudoscience. All while large corporations that are aligned with those governments are strip-mining our open data & culture infrastructures - such as free & open software repositories, Wikipedia and others - at the same time. To us, all of this means that the risk/benefit calculus of providing free & open access to genetic data today is very different compared to 14 years ago. We have always promised that openSNP along with the data it hosts is not for sale and want to be true to this to the end. That is why we have decided that sunsetting openSNP by deleting the data is the most responsible act of stewardship for these data. If you are interested, Bastian has written a slightly longer retrospective of openSNP and all the things it has done in the past 14 years here: https://tzovar.as/sunsetting-opensnp/ With this, we want to thank you for your trust and support over this long time. As a small and independent project, openSNP would have never been possible without your help. Gratefully, Helge, Philipp & Bastian -- You are receiving this email as part of the service-communications from openSNP.org

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/23andme-files-for-bankruptcy-in-us-after-data-hack-and-heavy-financial-losses/ar-AA1BxcEn Dan

A Mysterious 'Population B' Split From Humans 1.5 Million Years Ago¡ªand Its DNA Is Still Inside You Who knew our ¡°cousins¡± were so smart? Read in Popular Mechanics: https://apple.news/A9MlKEbSUTvmc9oA5jNEEBA Dan D

Hi, This is my brothers line FT72134 downstream of S11515 Driffield 3 but separated from him by quite a long period of time. I believe our three Germanic 'prisoners of war' turned out to be Britons. I am actually closer to the Nordic Celtic one autosomal DNA I live in Northern England but near the West Coast. Certainly our branch of R1b seems to have stretched far and wide. Our nearest Continental Cousin is a Finn we share an ancestor in around 300 B.C I think. We have no other matches apart from 4 downstream American's who share their SNP. The reason for taking a test was our family name turned out to be a Widows married name, no genetic connection to the name whatsoever, my Dad would have been very upset by this but such is life, people died all the time the poor couple only had one surviving child out of seven. Our matches are all called Smith (great name for Unetice men I suppose) but our shared ancestor is 1100 a.d so no guarantees on the surname being the same. This line was more West Pennine area and moved more North West over time. SNP tracker has the line coming into Britain in the late Bronze Age Wave, obviously I am not including my male ancestor in this with a Finn being the closest match in 300 a.d. According to MyTrueAncestry I don't have much in the way of Anglo Saxon archaic matches at all but whether they list Langobards for Frisians I am not sure, I get about 8% for them (Langobards) and about 5% for Unetice. My brother has matches in La Tene graves and Viking graves but none are close. They are so diverse stretched from Hungary and Romania to Bavaria and France then Viking Kill Sites in Britain so it's difficult to figure out what happened and which way it went. They all seem distant in time from my brother. So far FTDNA has an estimated time of arrival in the U.K around 150 BC but if a Continental Cousin turns up obviously that will have to be revised. I thought they were saying they did think some U106 arrived earlier than thought...maybe that's who the Romans bumped into in Kent when they described them as tall and fair? Might they have arrived with Belgae? I don't really mind but it would be nice to know who it arrived with. Out of 5 kits I have sponsored for family 2 x full sequence MtDNA and 4 x Y700 I only have a clear answer for one. Regards Linda

Dear all, I've updated my phylogeography document with information about the basal clades of R-Z156. This includes about 1/3 of R-Z156, namely everyone who isn't in R-DF98 or R-DF96, which are large enough and different enough that I'll deal with them separately and in that order. Before this analysis, my assumption from ancient DNA* was that the line between R-U106 and R-Z304 and may be even down to my own R-S1894 stayed in Bohemia during that time, because we had these two ancient DNA results from near the foundation of these haplogroups in almost exactly the same area. However, even after correcting for testing biases, every sub-clade of R-Z156 has a distribution much further west than Bohemia, so it's likely that R-Z156 grew up west of there too. I've always assumed that this was down to either testing biases or later migrations pushing testers preferentially west, but careful examination of our project's current data suggest these ideas can't be supported any more. Consequently, I'm looking at R-Z156 having a role in the Corded Ware Culture of southern Germany, which transitions into the western part of the Unetice culture when this arises. *PNL001 = R-U106 to I7196 = R-Z304, maybe R-DF98>S1911>S1894 Most of R-Z156's smaller branches seem to stay in southern Germany for some time, although there's a possibility that some of them migrate westward to France at an early stage. Some may go eastward as well but, where there's any evidence, the few R-Z156xDF98xDF96 testers south and east of Bohemia seem to be from post-Roman Germanic migrations. Cheers, Iain.

Might someone know of Michael St. Clair whose dissertation was titled ¡°Germanic Origins from the Perspective of the Y-Chromosome¡± https://escholarship.org/uc/item/9v44n49p Unlike most dissertations I have bothered to read, St. Clair¡¯s is well written though it is dated (2012) Currently, Michael St. Clair is Doctor of Philosophy, German Linguistics, University of California at Berkeley Principal Investigator at Genetic-Linguistic Interface Link to St Clair 2014 Crimean-Goths https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael-St-Clair/publication/378706393_St_Clair_2014_Crimean-Goths/links/65e5f937e7670d36abfd11a0/St-Clair-2014-Crimean-Goths.pdf

Meet ¡®Pink,¡¯ the new face of human evolution in Europe Western Europe has a new oldest face: the facial bones of an adult nicknamed "Pink" discovered in Spain are from a potential new member of the human family who lived more than 1.1 million years ago, scientists said Wednesday. Read in AFP News: https://apple.news/AaNQk2CBHSx2Sdns3S8vYQgCheers, Dan D.

R-L45 , R-L493 The surname of Stephen Warman of Balanterodoch, Scotland is close to the actual surname of W?rmund W?RMUND. ¡° 1237, the town name was recorded as "Ballentrodoch", from the Scottish Gaelic Baile nan Trodach, which means "town of the warriors¡± Read the story of ¡°¡±King W?RMUND¡±¡± of England and ¡°¡±King Uffa¡±¡± his son.[5] W?rmundingt¨±n ¡®settlement (Old English t¨±n) associated with W?rmund Balanterodoch, Scotland ¡° Balantrodach

I don¡¯t recall anyone having made mention of the following: A distinct genetic marker, carried by descendants of Robert the Bruce¡¯s close relatives, has been identified by researchers at the University of Strathclyde. Although there are varying theories about the exact relationship between the Bruces of Clackmannan and King Robert the Bruce, there is a consensus that it was very close. In the Register of the Great Seal for 1365, a charter of King David II confirms a grant of lands in Clackmannan to Robert Bruce, who is described in Latin as ¡°dilecto et fideli nostro consanguineo¡± (our beloved and faithful kinsman). This Robert is first mentioned in 1360 as the young heir of his father, Thomas Bruce. The genetic marker has been given the name FTB15831. https://www.strath.ac.uk/whystrathclyde/news/2022/geneticmarkerdiscoveredfordescendantsofbruceclan/

Dear all, A very short update to my Phylogeography document to include the minor R-Z381 clades. This is all of R-Z381 except R-Z156, R-S1688 and R-L48. In other words, it doesn't impact on most people, but it is hopefully valuable for the few folks that inhabit these smaller haplogroups! Cheers, Iain.

I now have 5 Big Y tested members in the VanHouten project, all in or downstream of R-BY71870, with 4 of the 5 having paper trails back to one Roelof Cornelisz. van Houten, who was first recorded as drawing supplies in 1638 in the records of Rensselaerswyck, New Netherlands. The fifth I was only able to trace back to a Henry Van Houten, recorded in the 1850 census of Salem, Washtenaw County, Michigan at age 77 with presumed wife Susan, but this 5th match (and my original Big & match) is grouped with a descendant of Roelof's son Cornelis in R-BY81828. The most recent match I had hoped would produce a new haplogroup with me, as I had traced him to be descended, like me, from Roelof's son Helmagh, while the remaining tester is descended from his third son, Theunis, but the three of us are still grouped together in R-BY71870. The big surprise is that the new tester matches the two members of R-FTA73229, with the most recent common haplogroup being R-Y98475, which is estimated to have been created in 450AD.

Any views on the new feature on My Heritage- Ancient origins reports? -- Kevin Terry

Hi Shane, You might want to check YFull again. Currently the R-Y340824 group is empty, but it does show a sample YF131078, which I presume is yours, at R-FGC17465*. Since YFull only has a small number of testers compared to Family Tree DNA, not all the haplogroups are represented, and some are represented under different names. R-FGC17465 at YFull is equivalent to R-FGC17460 at YFull, since there are no FGC17465+ FGC17460- testers to form a new haplogroup. Consequently, both of you are placed in R-FGC17465=R-FGC17460, and given a TMRCA of ~2200 years. Cheers, Iain.

Some 12 years ago, when I and some friends first started discussing this stuff down the pub, and then started getting ourselves tested - first with National Geographic (said I'm Danish and mum's German - she was unimpressed, understandbly), then with Britain's DNA, Ancestry, Living DNA and so on, before those left standing just focused on our Y, with FTDNA and FGC..... I recall that the thinking at the time was that about 2/3 of English males were supposedly decendents of the Iberian refuge folk who came north when the ice melted ~10k years back, and the other 3rd arrived during the Angle, Saxon etc migration period and as 'Viking' settlers and some Normans (who, if identified, are required to sit at a separate table). Does anyone know if these proportions for indigenous Isles males are borne out by the current state of knowledge? Cheers, Al

Hello everyone, My kit # 972412, and my assigned haplogroup FTE23068. I have a question regarding how to use/understand the ancient connections feature in the Discover Haplogroup Reports. On FamilyTreeDNA, I see several older connections in the British Isles (i.e. Oakington 2, Buckland 59, Driffield 16, and so on), most are all dated in the B.C. timeframe. However, my more recent ancient connections (i.e. Koksijde 15, Groningen 12, etc.) are dated more in the medieval time period. My most recent being Denmark Historical 3, which is dated at 1650 - 1850 CE. Is it fair to say that my y-DNA line could have originated in the British Isles (or was there at an earlier time) and moved out into Scandinavia or Northwestern Europe in the medieval time period? Am I understanding this correctly? Thank you very much for your help with this! Jason