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DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection


 

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A reminder to all that nothing lasts forever. Whatever happens to 23andMe as a result of this - and hopefully it's something positive - you should never assume that your ability to continue genetic genealogy with the status quo will continue indefinitely.

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The most valuable thing in genetic genealogy is your data, and the ability to compare it to others'. I would strongly recommend that you download your raw data from any company at which you've tested, or at which you have had relatives test. If you feel comfortable doing so, I'd also recommend you upload your data to a third-party storage facility as backup, in case a company has to close its servers. This then protects you from losing your original copy, and allows you to continue comparing that data to others (and us to you). For autosomal DNA tests like 23andMe, the most appropriate would be . For Y-DNA tests, we have the .

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- Iain.


 

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This has been on the cards for some time.

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It will be interesting to see what publicity this gets on mainstream TV media like the BBC News Bulletins versus a BBC article.

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Since almost every time these days DNA gets mentioned in any way in relation to healthcare, it always seems to come with a disclaimer about the importance of privacy this slowly gets re-enforced in most peoples’ minds that placing DNA into any database is a bad move.

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I often think that the major risk folk run is not about the importance or otherwise of their DNA signatures.? What criminals want are the email addresses and bank card details stored on DNA Testing Sites when we all make payments.? To some extent I am reassured by FTDNA being a CLIA certified establishment – but these external organisations with dedicated cyber-hacking establishments seem to have very good tentacles to penetrate many corporate systems, based in countries like India, Nigeria and Russia.

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There is no getting away from the essential fact that DNA testing is a non-repeat business, and as such is not a great business model to continue to stay in business.

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It is in no way a Ponzi scheme – but has some characteristics of them.? You always need to be recruiting new members to stay in business.

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Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Iain via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 09:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

?

A reminder to all that nothing lasts forever. Whatever happens to 23andMe as a result of this - and hopefully it's something positive - you should never assume that your ability to continue genetic genealogy with the status quo will continue indefinitely.

The most valuable thing in genetic genealogy is your data, and the ability to compare it to others'. I would strongly recommend that you download your raw data from any company at which you've tested, or at which you have had relatives test. If you feel comfortable doing so, I'd also recommend you upload your data to a third-party storage facility as backup, in case a company has to close its servers. This then protects you from losing your original copy, and allows you to continue comparing that data to others (and us to you). For autosomal DNA tests like 23andMe, the most appropriate would be . For Y-DNA tests, we have the .

- Iain_,_


 

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Here's an open letter from 23andMe to their customers:

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23andMe have stated on Twitter/X:

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"We believe in the strength of what we’ve built and believe today's announcement will enable 23andMe to emerge a more financially stable organization. We remain open for business, and there are no changes to the way we store, manage or protect customer data."

?

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Here are some FAQs from 23and Me about the Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing

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A database of 15 million people is a valuable asset and I think it's highly likely that a buyer will be found.

?

As Iain says, the survival of any company is not guaranteed. We've already seen a number of companies disappear from the market (BritainsDNA, DNA Heritage, Oxford Ancestors, Genetree, etc). In some cases the genetic data was completely lost.

?

As a precautionary measure it's always a good idea to download your data as an insurance policy.

?

If you've tested at 23andMe I would recommend in the first instance uploading to MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. With both companies you get free access to your matches but you will need to pay a small fee to unlock the additional features. At FTDNA you will also get a Y-DNA haplogroup (males only):

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If you upload to GEDmatch you need to be aware that it is now a forensic DNA database and all new uploads are automatically opted in to law enforcement matching for unidentified human remains cases.

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Best wishes

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Debbie Kennett


 

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Appreciate the Overview here Debbie of 23andMe’s status.

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I would have thought the one item that could impact 23andMe’s sale value to other companies is the number and scope of Class Action lawsuits pending or financial liabilities unpaid against the company following their data breach in late 2023.? Do you have any feeling for the potential liabilities there in March 2025 [?].

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This article relates to September 2024 – and I would doubt if 23andMe would have paid out the full $30 million dollars by now.

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Other articles claim it has all been settled for sums in the $2 million to $3 million range in America.

?

For genetic genealogists, it is probably a good thing that FTDNA is a CLIA approved laboratory and has other income streams arising from genetic health tests, which can be a repeat screening business and used to offset its genetic genealogy business.

?

When I was at a TOPRA Conference in September 2024 at Rotterdam covering the EU, a lot of play was made of involving patient advocacy groups in the design of clinical trials.? I’m sure this aspect of 23andMe’s business model appealed to many customers, especially in America. But reputational damage in this field can take a long time to recover from.

?

I’m unsure whether inheriting this database of potential clinical trial customers would appeal in 2025 – and any buyer would want to see a breakdown of the countries in which 23andMe has sold its Kits and healthcare opt-ins by region.

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Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Debbie via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 12:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

?

Here's an open letter from 23andMe to their customers:

?

?

23andMe have stated on Twitter/X:

?

"We believe in the strength of what we’ve built and believe today's announcement will enable 23andMe to emerge a more financially stable organization. We remain open for business, and there are no changes to the way we store, manage or protect customer data."

?

?

Here are some FAQs from 23and Me about the Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing

?

?

A database of 15 million people is a valuable asset and I think it's highly likely that a buyer will be found.

?

As Iain says, the survival of any company is not guaranteed. We've already seen a number of companies disappear from the market (BritainsDNA, DNA Heritage, Oxford Ancestors, Genetree, etc). In some cases the genetic data was completely lost.

?

As a precautionary measure it's always a good idea to download your data as an insurance policy.

?

If you've tested at 23andMe I would recommend in the first instance uploading to MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. With both companies you get free access to your matches but you will need to pay a small fee to unlock the additional features. At FTDNA you will also get a Y-DNA haplogroup (males only):

?

?

If you upload to GEDmatch you need to be aware that it is now a forensic DNA database and all new uploads are automatically opted in to law enforcement matching for unidentified human remains cases.

?

Best wishes

?

Debbie Kennett


 

GSK has already had 2 periods where it has had access to the 23andMe database for research purposes.? That they did not renew the most recent agreement late last year may be significant.? Today access to whole genome collections is going to be more insightful than "limited" autosomal based genetic datasets.??

-Wayne

On Monday, March 24, 2025 at 10:15:27 AM EDT, Brian Swann via groups.io <brian_swann@...> wrote:


Appreciate the Overview here Debbie of 23andMe’s status.

?

I would have thought the one item that could impact 23andMe’s sale value to other companies is the number and scope of Class Action lawsuits pending or financial liabilities unpaid against the company following their data breach in late 2023.? Do you have any feeling for the potential liabilities there in March 2025 [?].

?

This article relates to September 2024 – and I would doubt if 23andMe would have paid out the full $30 million dollars by now.

?

?

Other articles claim it has all been settled for sums in the $2 million to $3 million range in America.

?

For genetic genealogists, it is probably a good thing that FTDNA is a CLIA approved laboratory and has other income streams arising from genetic health tests, which can be a repeat screening business and used to offset its genetic genealogy business.

?

When I was at a TOPRA Conference in September 2024 at Rotterdam covering the EU, a lot of play was made of involving patient advocacy groups in the design of clinical trials.? I’m sure this aspect of 23andMe’s business model appealed to many customers, especially in America. But reputational damage in this field can take a long time to recover from.

?

I’m unsure whether inheriting this database of potential clinical trial customers would appeal in 2025 – and any buyer would want to see a breakdown of the countries in which 23andMe has sold its Kits and healthcare opt-ins by region.

?

Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Debbie via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 12:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

?

Here's an open letter from 23andMe to their customers:

?

?

23andMe have stated on Twitter/X:

?

"We believe in the strength of what we’ve built and believe today's announcement will enable 23andMe to emerge a more financially stable organization. We remain open for business, and there are no changes to the way we store, manage or protect customer data."

?

?

Here are some FAQs from 23and Me about the Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing

?

?

A database of 15 million people is a valuable asset and I think it's highly likely that a buyer will be found.

?

As Iain says, the survival of any company is not guaranteed. We've already seen a number of companies disappear from the market (BritainsDNA, DNA Heritage, Oxford Ancestors, Genetree, etc). In some cases the genetic data was completely lost.

?

As a precautionary measure it's always a good idea to download your data as an insurance policy.

?

If you've tested at 23andMe I would recommend in the first instance uploading to MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. With both companies you get free access to your matches but you will need to pay a small fee to unlock the additional features. At FTDNA you will also get a Y-DNA haplogroup (males only):

?

?

If you upload to GEDmatch you need to be aware that it is now a forensic DNA database and all new uploads are automatically opted in to law enforcement matching for unidentified human remains cases.

?

Best wishes

?

Debbie Kennett


 

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I think you are right Wayne.? This form of DNA analysis has had its day in relation to healthcare, and WGS is the future.? How much of WGS will be the future is still up for grabs – we might not need or want T2T analysis on every patient who visits the NHS in this country.

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And there are several other healthcare advances which are just as important as DNA / RNA sequencing for a total healthcare analysis package – Proteomics, Metabolomics, Epigenetics, Big Data Analysis, Gut Microflora analysis, etc.? Olink, a Swedish based company, but now part of Thermo-Fisher, do some clever things in the Proteomics field.

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In an ideal world, you would go back to the participants in the 23andMe data pool and get them to be re-sequenced by WGS – which is very easy to write and usually very time consuming and expensive to do.? And you would need to see those populations analysed by disease condition and by year to begin with.

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I doubt if this database is that valuable to pharmaceutical companies in 2025. The game has moved on.? It is useful to genetic genealogists, but that is a far more limited marketplace and in what they might be prepared to pay.

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Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Wayne via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 15:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

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GSK has already had 2 periods where it has had access to the 23andMe database for research purposes.? That they did not renew the most recent agreement late last year may be significant.? Today access to whole genome collections is going to be more insightful than "limited" autosomal based genetic datasets.??

?

-Wayne

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On Monday, March 24, 2025 at 10:15:27 AM EDT, Brian Swann via groups.io <brian_swann@...> wrote:

Appreciate the Overview here Debbie of 23andMe’s status.

I would have thought the one item that could impact 23andMe’s sale value to other companies is the number and scope of Class Action lawsuits pending or financial liabilities unpaid against the company following their data breach in late 2023.? Do you have any feeling for the potential liabilities there in March 2025 [?].

This article relates to September 2024 – and I would doubt if 23andMe would have paid out the full $30 million dollars by now.

Other articles claim it has all been settled for sums in the $2 million to $3 million range in America.

For genetic genealogists, it is probably a good thing that FTDNA is a CLIA approved laboratory and has other income streams arising from genetic health tests, which can be a repeat screening business and used to offset its genetic genealogy business.

When I was at a TOPRA Conference in September 2024 at Rotterdam covering the EU, a lot of play was made of involving patient advocacy groups in the design of clinical trials.? I’m sure this aspect of 23andMe’s business model appealed to many customers, especially in America. But reputational damage in this field can take a long time to recover from.

I’m unsure whether inheriting this database of potential clinical trial customers would appeal in 2025 – and any buyer would want to see a breakdown of the countries in which 23andMe has sold its Kits and healthcare opt-ins by region.

Brian

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Debbie via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 12:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

Here's an open letter from 23andMe to their customers:

23andMe have stated on Twitter/X:

"We believe in the strength of what we’ve built and believe today's announcement will enable 23andMe to emerge a more financially stable organization. We remain open for business, and there are no changes to the way we store, manage or protect customer data."

Here are some FAQs from 23and Me about the Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing

A database of 15 million people is a valuable asset and I think it's highly likely that a buyer will be found.

As Iain says, the survival of any company is not guaranteed. We've already seen a number of companies disappear from the market (BritainsDNA, DNA Heritage, Oxford Ancestors, Genetree, etc). In some cases the genetic data was completely lost.

As a precautionary measure it's always a good idea to download your data as an insurance policy.

If you've tested at 23andMe I would recommend in the first instance uploading to MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. With both companies you get free access to your matches but you will need to pay a small fee to unlock the additional features. At FTDNA you will also get a Y-DNA haplogroup (males only):

If you upload to GEDmatch you need to be aware that it is now a forensic DNA database and all new uploads are automatically opted in to law enforcement matching for unidentified human remains cases.

Best wishes

Debbie Kennett_


 

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Brian

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Sorry I don't have any idea of 23andMe's liabilities in terms of outstanding lawsuits.

?

A restructuring website has been set up which has a lot of information about the various debtors. I haven't had time to study the content but you may well find the answer to your question there.

?

?

It was noticeable at RootsTech this year that 23andMe were very much focused on the ancestry market. I wonder if that may be where their future lies rather than in drug development and clinical trials.

?

When I visited the 23andMe offices a few years ago now I noticed a kit sales tracker which divided the market up into the US and the rest of the world. The US appeared to account for about 90% of the company's sales. I suspect the UK is probably their second largest market.

?

Best wishes

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Debbie

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Swann via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 14:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

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Appreciate the Overview here Debbie of 23andMe’s status.

?

I would have thought the one item that could impact 23andMe’s sale value to other companies is the number and scope of Class Action lawsuits pending or financial liabilities unpaid against the company following their data breach in late 2023.? Do you have any feeling for the potential liabilities there in March 2025 [?].

?

This article relates to September 2024 – and I would doubt if 23andMe would have paid out the full $30 million dollars by now.

?

?

Other articles claim it has all been settled for sums in the $2 million to $3 million range in America.

?

For genetic genealogists, it is probably a good thing that FTDNA is a CLIA approved laboratory and has other income streams arising from genetic health tests, which can be a repeat screening business and used to offset its genetic genealogy business.

?

When I was at a TOPRA Conference in September 2024 at Rotterdam covering the EU, a lot of play was made of involving patient advocacy groups in the design of clinical trials.? I’m sure this aspect of 23andMe’s business model appealed to many customers, especially in America. But reputational damage in this field can take a long time to recover from.

?

I’m unsure whether inheriting this database of potential clinical trial customers would appeal in 2025 – and any buyer would want to see a breakdown of the countries in which 23andMe has sold its Kits and healthcare opt-ins by region.

?

Brian

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Hi Debbie, All

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The most useful of the links below to us on this list, seems to be the Advice to Vendors.

?

There is a paragraph in there which says:

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Does the Company have sufficient liquidity to fulfil obligations to current vendors and to continue operating in the ordinary course?

?

? Yes, 23andMe expects to pay for all goods and services received after the petition date.

?

? The Company received a DIP financing commitment of up to $35 million. Upon Court approval, the additional liquidity from the DIP financing, combined with cash generated from the Company’s ongoing operations, is expected to support the business during these proceedings.

?

---------------

?

Not knowing immediately what the acronym DIP stood for – it is ‘Debtor in Possession’ financing.

?

?

What Is Debtor-in-Possession (DIP) Financing?

Debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing allows companies that have filed for bankruptcy protection under??to borrow capital to restructure and continue trading. DIP loans usually have priority over existing debt, equity, and other claims and are facilitated in the hope that the distressed company, with a new cash injection, can save itself, begin making money again, and pay off all its debts.

?

Key Takeaways

  • Debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing is financing for firms in Chapter 11 bankruptcy that allows them to continue operating.
  • Lenders of DIP financing take a senior position on liens of the firm’s assets, ahead of previous lenders.
  • Lenders permit DIP financing, as it allows a firm to continue operations, reorganize, and eventually pay off debts.
  • Term loans are the most common type of financing provided, whereas historically it used to be revolving loans.
  • Interest costs on this type of financing tend to be high.

?

I take the paragraph “Lenders of DIP financing take a senior position on liens of the firm’s assets, ahead of previous lenders” to be the key item here.? They now have the first claim on the firm’s assets.

?

So, somewhere down the line, and probably sooner rather than later, they want their $35 million dollars back, coupled to the last paragraph, “Interest costs on this type of financing tend to be high”.

?

I suggest 23andMe has bought itself some time – but given the fact it has never made a profit all the time it has existed, to use a current phrase, “It holds very few cards, it has a very weak hand to play”.

?

Any potential buyer has to decide what to do about the $35 million dollars loan and commit to pay that back over an agreed time if it wants 23andMe to survive.

?

Or simply wait for the company to go under and buy its assets(and hopefully some of its undoubtedly very good people) at whatever price they might be auctioned off by the DIP financiers to recover some of their losses - and thus to get rid of a market competitor.

?

You might regard this as either a variation of asset stripping, or adjusting the autosomal DNA Chip marketplace to the financial realities in 2025, compared to the Stock Market hype of a $4.5 billion dollar valuation in the past – before cheap WGS came along to change the marketplace for ever.

?

Brian

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Debbie via groups.io
Sent: 25 March 2025 00:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

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Brian

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Sorry I don't have any idea of 23andMe's liabilities in terms of outstanding lawsuits.

?

A restructuring website has been set up which has a lot of information about the various debtors. I haven't had time to study the content but you may well find the answer to your question there.

?

?

It was noticeable at RootsTech this year that 23andMe were very much focused on the ancestry market. I wonder if that may be where their future lies rather than in drug development and clinical trials.

?

When I visited the 23andMe offices a few years ago now I noticed a kit sales tracker which divided the market up into the US and the rest of the world. The US appeared to account for about 90% of the company's sales. I suspect the UK is probably their second largest market.

?

Best wishes

?

Debbie

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Swann via groups.io
Sent: 24 March 2025 14:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

?

Appreciate the Overview here Debbie of 23andMe’s status.

?

I would have thought the one item that could impact 23andMe’s sale value to other companies is the number and scope of Class Action lawsuits pending or financial liabilities unpaid against the company following their data breach in late 2023.? Do you have any feeling for the potential liabilities there in March 2025 [?].

?

This article relates to September 2024 – and I would doubt if 23andMe would have paid out the full $30 million dollars by now.

?

?

Other articles claim it has all been settled for sums in the $2 million to $3 million range in America.

?

For genetic genealogists, it is probably a good thing that FTDNA is a CLIA approved laboratory and has other income streams arising from genetic health tests, which can be a repeat screening business and used to offset its genetic genealogy business.

?

When I was at a TOPRA Conference in September 2024 at Rotterdam covering the EU, a lot of play was made of involving patient advocacy groups in the design of clinical trials.? I’m sure this aspect of 23andMe’s business model appealed to many customers, especially in America. But reputational damage in this field can take a long time to recover from.

?

I’m unsure whether inheriting this database of potential clinical trial customers would appeal in 2025 – and any buyer would want to see a breakdown of the countries in which 23andMe has sold its Kits and healthcare opt-ins by region.

?

Brian

?


 

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Thanks Brian for checking that out. An additional complication for 23andMe is that they were already under investigation by the data protection regulators in the UK and Canada.

?

The the Information Commissioner's Office (the UK regulator) have now issued a statement about their 23andMe investigation.

?

?

The statement can be found here on the ICO website:

?

?

Note that you will need to include the forward slash at the end of URL to get this link to work.

?

Melissa Boes Rice has published a useful article on LinkedIn summarizing the 23andMe situation which list members might find helpful:

?

?

Debbie

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Swann via groups.io
Sent: 25 March 2025 07:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

?

Hi Debbie, All

?

The most useful of the links below to us on this list, seems to be the Advice to Vendors.

?

There is a paragraph in there which says:

?

Does the Company have sufficient liquidity to fulfil obligations to current vendors and to continue operating in the ordinary course?

?

? Yes, 23andMe expects to pay for all goods and services received after the petition date.

?

? The Company received a DIP financing commitment of up to $35 million. Upon Court approval, the additional liquidity from the DIP financing, combined with cash generated from the Company’s ongoing operations, is expected to support the business during these proceedings.

?

---------------

?

Not knowing immediately what the acronym DIP stood for – it is ‘Debtor in Possession’ financing.

?

?

What Is Debtor-in-Possession (DIP) Financing?

Debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing allows companies that have filed for bankruptcy protection under??to borrow capital to restructure and continue trading. DIP loans usually have priority over existing debt, equity, and other claims and are facilitated in the hope that the distressed company, with a new cash injection, can save itself, begin making money again, and pay off all its debts.

?

Key Takeaways

  • Debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing is financing for firms in Chapter 11 bankruptcy that allows them to continue operating.
  • Lenders of DIP financing take a senior position on liens of the firm’s assets, ahead of previous lenders.
  • Lenders permit DIP financing, as it allows a firm to continue operations, reorganize, and eventually pay off debts.
  • Term loans are the most common type of financing provided, whereas historically it used to be revolving loans.
  • Interest costs on this type of financing tend to be high.

?

I take the paragraph “Lenders of DIP financing take a senior position on liens of the firm’s assets, ahead of previous lenders” to be the key item here.? They now have the first claim on the firm’s assets.

?

So, somewhere down the line, and probably sooner rather than later, they want their $35 million dollars back, coupled to the last paragraph, “Interest costs on this type of financing tend to be high”.

?

I suggest 23andMe has bought itself some time – but given the fact it has never made a profit all the time it has existed, to use a current phrase, “It holds very few cards, it has a very weak hand to play”.

?

Any potential buyer has to decide what to do about the $35 million dollars loan and commit to pay that back over an agreed time if it wants 23andMe to survive.

?

Or simply wait for the company to go under and buy its assets(and hopefully some of its undoubtedly very good people) at whatever price they might be auctioned off by the DIP financiers to recover some of their losses - and thus to get rid of a market competitor.

?

You might regard this as either a variation of asset stripping, or adjusting the autosomal DNA Chip marketplace to the financial realities in 2025, compared to the Stock Market hype of a $4.5 billion dollar valuation in the past – before cheap WGS came along to change the marketplace for ever.

?

Brian

?

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Under bankruptcy protection, a "stay" halts enforcement of all contractual obligations against the company. And its assets — potentially including customer biometric data — become the property of a bankruptcy estate that is legally protected from creditors.? In the US there are about 20 states which have specific laws present which probably would allow an individual from that state to delete their data during a bankruptcy proceeding.? For everyone else the question is whether they are legally allowed to delete their data/asset from the 23andMe bankruptcy estate. One could argue that the primary remaining value in the bankruptcy asset would be the extracted statistical information related to variants and customer reported survey responses.

- Wayne

On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 07:10:19 AM EDT, Debbie via groups.io <debbiekennett@...> wrote:


Thanks Brian for checking that out. An additional complication for 23andMe is that they were already under investigation by the data protection regulators in the UK and Canada.

?

The the Information Commissioner's Office (the UK regulator) have now issued a statement about their 23andMe investigation.

?

?

The statement can be found here on the ICO website:

?

?

Note that you will need to include the forward slash at the end of URL to get this link to work.

?

Melissa Boes Rice has published a useful article on LinkedIn summarizing the 23andMe situation which list members might find helpful:

?

?

Debbie

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Swann via groups.io
Sent: 25 March 2025 07:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

?

Hi Debbie, All

?

The most useful of the links below to us on this list, seems to be the Advice to Vendors.

?

There is a paragraph in there which says:

?

Does the Company have sufficient liquidity to fulfil obligations to current vendors and to continue operating in the ordinary course?

?

? Yes, 23andMe expects to pay for all goods and services received after the petition date.

?

? The Company received a DIP financing commitment of up to $35 million. Upon Court approval, the additional liquidity from the DIP financing, combined with cash generated from the Company’s ongoing operations, is expected to support the business during these proceedings.

?

---------------

?

Not knowing immediately what the acronym DIP stood for – it is ‘Debtor in Possession’ financing.

?

?

What Is Debtor-in-Possession (DIP) Financing?

Debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing allows companies that have filed for bankruptcy protection under??to borrow capital to restructure and continue trading. DIP loans usually have priority over existing debt, equity, and other claims and are facilitated in the hope that the distressed company, with a new cash injection, can save itself, begin making money again, and pay off all its debts.

?

Key Takeaways

  • Debtor-in-possession (DIP) financing is financing for firms in Chapter 11 bankruptcy that allows them to continue operating.
  • Lenders of DIP financing take a senior position on liens of the firm’s assets, ahead of previous lenders.
  • Lenders permit DIP financing, as it allows a firm to continue operations, reorganize, and eventually pay off debts.
  • Term loans are the most common type of financing provided, whereas historically it used to be revolving loans.
  • Interest costs on this type of financing tend to be high.

?

I take the paragraph “Lenders of DIP financing take a senior position on liens of the firm’s assets, ahead of previous lenders” to be the key item here.? They now have the first claim on the firm’s assets.

?

So, somewhere down the line, and probably sooner rather than later, they want their $35 million dollars back, coupled to the last paragraph, “Interest costs on this type of financing tend to be high”.

?

I suggest 23andMe has bought itself some time – but given the fact it has never made a profit all the time it has existed, to use a current phrase, “It holds very few cards, it has a very weak hand to play”.

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Any potential buyer has to decide what to do about the $35 million dollars loan and commit to pay that back over an agreed time if it wants 23andMe to survive.

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Or simply wait for the company to go under and buy its assets(and hopefully some of its undoubtedly very good people) at whatever price they might be auctioned off by the DIP financiers to recover some of their losses - and thus to get rid of a market competitor.

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You might regard this as either a variation of asset stripping, or adjusting the autosomal DNA Chip marketplace to the financial realities in 2025, compared to the Stock Market hype of a $4.5 billion dollar valuation in the past – before cheap WGS came along to change the marketplace for ever.

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Here's a good article on the 23andMe situation from Family Tree Magazine in the US (they are unrelated to the UK magazine of the same name). Family Tree Magazine have themselves been through Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings and therefore provide a unique insight.

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I haven't yet tried it but Marc McDermott, who writes the Genealogy Explained blog, has provided a free tool for downloading your 23andMe match list. It's linked towards the end of this blog post:

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I am told that the download unfortunately does not include the haplogroup information.

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One can also use 529Renew from Google apps.? Although I am able to use mine on Microsoft Edge.
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I saved my list yesterday.? ?It does not include haplotypes.? ?It does include the Longest segment, and your notes.
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You can also save your ICWs, but that is a very long process in terms of hours.? Plus the process hiccups, perhaps because it creates a master list and there are problems when some matches are now missing.?
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I just happened to take my numbers the day before the bankruptcy.? ?I had 2765.? I am down to 2640.? ?So about a 5% loss so far.
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23andMe itself is now showing your notes or simple stats on the main DNA Relatives match list.? I think that is new, so 23andMe has added one minor feature.??


 

I've requested downloads of all my raw data and match lists from their systems here in the US. This includes my data and my son's (who's still a minor). This process is said (by their online messaging) to take up to 30 days to provision - upon which I will be notified as each file is ready for download access. Sadly, this is probably the best outcome any user/customer can expect in this situation. The 'company' is likely to be sold as "assets only" and not acquired in whole at the end of the bankruptcy process. The obvious advantage to any future purchaser is that the present debt obligations (including data breach liabilities) would be stripped from the most valuable commercial assets. This company was valued at more than $9 billion after its SPAC merger/listing 5 years ago. The failure of its underlying business model is telling for the entire industry.
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At least two state attorneys general have called for users/consumers to delete their data and their accounts immediately. It's more likely that users will be permitted to conduct more orderly removals through downloads and deletions as the bankruptcy process ensues. I would not hesitate however... And I would not underestimate the potential for Ancestry (now Blackstone) or FTDNA to purchase the data in an assets-only sale.
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As the the market goes 23andMe was largely directed at female purchasers with the focus on predicting health outcomes whereas FTDNA has been more focused on male purchasers and product features. But as surname and haplogroup admins we know that female purchases have largely driven the market results for both companies.? The use of genetic genealogy for forensic purposes has chilled new purchases, particularly among men. Ancestry appears to continue with a more balanced model - subscriptions and testing, but that promise is fueled by puzzle-solvers who wish to divine intricate family relationships lost to time. I suspect the subscription model is coming for all of us eventually...


 
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It might be of interest that apparently other sites are seeing deletions as well, even if just a droplet.
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Over last two days....
I have received 23 new matches at Ancestry, but my total has only gone up by 8.? Seems like 15 people may have deleted a kit.?
I have received 7 new matches at MyHeritage, but my total has only gone up 3
For Family Finder, I had a new match yesterday, but my total went down by 1.? ??
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As for 23andMe, I lost 125 over first 2 days.? Then 40.? Yesterday 14.? 2 so far today.? About 6% overall
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I did not think to track Y matches.? ?My mtDNA has not changed in ages, including the last two days.?
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Leah Larkin's take.??
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A bit surprising, as she has strong opinions on privacy.
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Thanks Martin for sharing your stats.

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There's been a lot of scaremongering in the media about the bankruptcy process but in fact it seems to be a positive move and the Chapter 11 process provides a lot of protections. This is a good article explaining the implications:

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Martin Abrams via groups.io
Sent: 28 March 2025 17:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [R1b-U106] DNA testing site 23andMe files for bankruptcy protection

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It might be of interest that apparently other sites are seeing deletions as well, even if just a droplet.

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Over last two days....

I have received 23 new matches at Ancestry, but my total has only gone up by 8.? Seems like 15 people may have deleted a kit.?

I have received 7 new matches at MyHeritage, but my total has only gone up 3

For Family Finder, I had a new match yesterday, but my total went down by 1.? ??

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As for 23andMe, I lost 125 over first 2 days.? Then 40.? Yesterday 14.? 2 so far today.? About 6% overall

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I did not think to track Y matches.? ?My mtDNA has not changed in ages, including the last two days.?

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Leah Larkin's take.??

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A bit surprising, as she has strong opinions on privacy.

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