Hi,
I saw on the web that 23andMe have a sale. Ancestry test down from €109 to €79. Is it worth it?
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Kevin Terry
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It depends on what you are looking for with regards to DNA testing. If you are looking for cousins (roughly up to the fourth cousin level) then they are worth it. While they both give you a breakdown of your supposed ancestral background, you need to take these reports with a grain of salt as they are not all that accurate and siblings can get vastly different results.
Ray
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 6:27?AM Kevin Terry via <kevintyrry= [email protected]> wrote: Hi,
I saw on the web that 23andMe have a sale. Ancestry test down from €109 to €79. Is it worth it?
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Kevin Terry
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Yes, at Ancestry my Scotland component went from 46% to 17% in one leap, prompting an identity crisis!? But Ancestry have a lot of members and trees, mine containing over 10,000 ancestors and relatives.
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, 11:48 Raymond Wing via , <wing.genealogist= [email protected]> wrote: It depends on what you are looking for with regards to DNA testing. If you are looking for cousins (roughly up to the fourth cousin level) then they are worth it. While they both give you a breakdown of your supposed ancestral background, you need to take these reports with a grain of salt as they are not all that accurate and siblings can get vastly different results.
Ray
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 6:27?AM Kevin Terry via <kevintyrry= [email protected]> wrote: Hi,
I saw on the web that 23andMe have a sale. Ancestry test down from €109 to €79. Is it worth it?
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Kevin Terry
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, 12:32 Piero Sinclair via , <pierosinclair= [email protected]> wrote: Yes, at Ancestry my Scotland component went from 46% to 17% in one leap, prompting an identity crisis!? But Ancestry have a lot of members and trees, mine containing over 10,000 ancestors and relatives.
On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, 11:48 Raymond Wing via , <wing.genealogist= [email protected]> wrote: It depends on what you are looking for with regards to DNA testing. If you are looking for cousins (roughly up to the fourth cousin level) then they are worth it. While they both give you a breakdown of your supposed ancestral background, you need to take these reports with a grain of salt as they are not all that accurate and siblings can get vastly different results.
Ray
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 6:27?AM Kevin Terry via <kevintyrry= [email protected]> wrote: Hi,
I saw on the web that 23andMe have a sale. Ancestry test down from €109 to €79. Is it worth it?
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Kevin Terry
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Piero,
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Don't feel bad. My results, which have been pretty consistent since 2015, changed drastically also. Germanic Europe went from 35% to 69%, England and NW Europe went from 36% to 17%, Scotland went from 10% to 6%, and Ireland from 10% to 4%.
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So, unless one is only looking to update a family tree from the past four or five generations, I still think doing the Y700 test is the best thing.?
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Ed
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Thanks. Sorry for showing off about the size of my.....tree.??
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Piero,
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Don't feel bad. My results, which have been pretty consistent since 2015, changed drastically also. Germanic Europe went from 35% to 69%, England and NW Europe went from 36% to 17%, Scotland went from 10% to 6%, and Ireland from 10% to 4%.
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So, unless one is only looking to update a family tree from the past four or five generations, I still think doing the Y700 test is the best thing.?
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Ed
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I am interested in haplogroup FGC13326. FamilytreeDNA have something over 1200 testers in this haplogroup. 23andMe's data base is more than 10 times the size of FamilytreeDNA. They provide the Y haplogroup down to the level of FGC13326. So 12,000 testers with this haplogroup! Or am I missing something?
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Kevin Terry
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Roughly half of the 23andMe testers would be females, so that would cut the results in half.
Plus, AFAIK there is no way to see all of your Y-DNA matches there, nor any way to search by Y-DNA haplogroup for matches.
Ray
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:04?PM Kevin Terry via <kevintyrry= [email protected]> wrote: I am interested in haplogroup FGC13326. FamilytreeDNA have something over 1200 testers in this haplogroup. 23andMe's data base is more than 10 times the size of FamilytreeDNA. They provide the Y haplogroup down to the level of FGC13326. So 12,000 testers with this haplogroup! Or am I missing something?
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Kevin Terry
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You can search matches at 23andMe by haplogroup. I found ?a match at R1b-L1 that was born an Adams but was adopted by a family living close by.
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:30 Raymond Wing via <wing.genealogist= [email protected]> wrote: Roughly half of the 23andMe testers would be females, so that would cut the results in half.
Plus, AFAIK there is no way to see all of your Y-DNA matches there, nor any way to search by Y-DNA haplogroup for matches.
Ray
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:04?PM Kevin Terry via <kevintyrry= [email protected]> wrote: I am interested in haplogroup FGC13326. FamilytreeDNA have something over 1200 testers in this haplogroup. 23andMe's data base is more than 10 times the size of FamilytreeDNA. They provide the Y haplogroup down to the level of FGC13326. So 12,000 testers with this haplogroup! Or am I missing something?
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Kevin Terry
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The premium upgrade is required to search for haplogroup matches. All the same, I have found 23andme very useful for exploring my ancestry (including my R-L46 matches) and its autosomal breakdown to be more accurate than Ancestry or FTDNA.
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You can search matches at 23andMe by haplogroup. I found ?a match at R1b-L1 that was born an Adams but was adopted by a family living close by.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 08:30 Raymond Wing via
<wing.genealogist= [email protected]> wrote:
Roughly half of the 23andMe testers would be females, so that would cut the results in half.
Plus, AFAIK there is no way to see all of your Y-DNA matches there, nor any way to search by Y-DNA haplogroup for matches.
Ray
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 12:04?PM Kevin Terry via
<kevintyrry= [email protected]> wrote:
I am interested in haplogroup FGC13326. FamilytreeDNA have something over 1200 testers in this haplogroup. 23andMe's data base is more than 10 times the size of FamilytreeDNA. They provide the Y haplogroup down to the level of FGC13326. So 12,000 testers
with this haplogroup! Or am I missing something?
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Kevin Terry
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Is it a good idea to test with 23andMe right now?
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Many of the objections? made by Kari Paul, reference 138 , can similarly apply to all genetic testing - not just 23andMe!!
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Kevin Terry
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Cripes - being Partly Of Scotia is dire enough, but if the 'missing' 29% turned out to be Welsh it'd be time to retire to the study with a loaded revolver and a large glass of brandy.
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For a bit more of a challenge try hitting a shot glass from 20 paces.
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Cripes - being Partly Of Scotia is dire enough, but if the 'missing' 29% turned out to be Welsh it'd be time to retire to the study with a loaded revolver and a large glass of brandy.
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How dare you immune the Scottish nation. Whereas Wales, I'm entirely with you, and proud to report Ancestry gives me none. English, Scots, Cornish, Irish, Danish, Swedish and German in that order.? I should have no Irish, think that's part of my Cornish inheritance.?
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Cripes - being Partly Of Scotia is dire enough, but if the 'missing' 29% turned out to be Welsh it'd be time to retire to the study with a loaded revolver and a large glass of brandy.
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Impugn of course. Robots..
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 10:01 Piero Sinclair via , <pierosinclair= [email protected]> wrote: How dare you immune the Scottish nation. Whereas Wales, I'm entirely with you, and proud to report Ancestry gives me none. English, Scots, Cornish, Irish, Danish, Swedish and German in that order.? I should have no Irish, think that's part of my Cornish inheritance.?
Cripes - being Partly Of Scotia is dire enough, but if the 'missing' 29% turned out to be Welsh it'd be time to retire to the study with a loaded revolver and a large glass of brandy.
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"impugn the Scottish nation"? I do like "immune the Scottish nation" if it means that 5,490,100 people won't become ill....
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On 01/17/2025 5:01 AM EST Piero Sinclair via groups.io <pierosinclair@...> wrote:
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How dare you immune the Scottish nation.
Whereas Wales, I'm entirely with you, and proud to report Ancestry gives me none. English, Scots, Cornish, Irish, Danish, Swedish and German in that order.?
I should have no Irish, think that's part of my Cornish inheritance.?
Cripes - being Partly Of Scotia is dire enough, but if the 'missing' 29% turned out to be Welsh it'd be time to retire to the study with a loaded revolver and a large glass of brandy.
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THe Cornish bit is just a stand-in for Welsh.
"The Cornish people, who shared the
with the Welsh, Cumbrics and Pics, and also the Bretons who had
migrated across the sea to escape the Anglo-Saxon invasions, were
referred to in the language as the "Westwalas" meaning West Welsh." Wikipedia
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Want to borrow my?Walther PPK?
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OK let's have immune then, languages are living after all.
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"impugn the Scottish nation"? I do like "immune the Scottish nation" if it means that 5,490,100 people won't become ill....
On 01/17/2025 5:01 AM EST Piero Sinclair via <pierosinclair= [email protected]> wrote:
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How dare you immune the Scottish nation.
Whereas Wales, I'm entirely with you, and proud to report Ancestry gives me none. English, Scots, Cornish, Irish, Danish, Swedish and German in that order.?
I should have no Irish, think that's part of my Cornish inheritance.?
Cripes - being Partly Of Scotia is dire enough, but if the 'missing' 29% turned out to be Welsh it'd be time to retire to the study with a loaded revolver and a large glass of brandy.
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THe Cornish bit is just a stand-in for Welsh.
"The Cornish people, who shared the
with the Welsh, Cumbrics and Pics, and also the Bretons who had
migrated across the sea to escape the Anglo-Saxon invasions, were
referred to in the language as the "Westwalas" meaning West Welsh." Wikipedia
Want to borrow my?Walther PPK?
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