Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Thanks for the explanation Andrew!
Sometimes I have a blue screen in my brain and it takes a dump.? :-)
-Doug
KD4MOJ
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
That map is a copy of Jamie WA7JH's map window in his running copy of YAAC at his station. YAAC has a mini webserver built into it so other computers on the same LAN as the YAAC computer can see most of the information the YAAC user can see (the map, the station list, the incoming text message list, etc.). Jamie has exported that local webserver by port-forwarding through his firewall router, so anyone on the Internet can see what his station sees. Thankfully, the webserver in YAAC is small and stupid enough that it can't be used as a bot vector for attacking other systems; the worst it can do is crash YAAC from being overloaded with requests. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Doug Ferrell <lists@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 8:22 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!! Ok I guess I must have missed something. I saw a map on the link. What exactly is the tool? ...DOUG KD4MOJ On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote: Andrew, Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool. I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool! Weather enabled!! ADS-B enabled!!!! RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!! APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!! Custom objects created! For those wanting to check it out!!!! Andrew, thank you man!! Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club! _._,_._,
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Ok I guess I must have missed something. I saw a map on the link. What exactly is the tool?
...DOUG
KD4MOJ
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On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Andrew,
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Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
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I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
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Weather enabled!!
ADS-B enabled!!!!
RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
Custom objects created!
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For those wanting to check it out!!!!
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Andrew, thank you man!!
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Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
_._,_._,
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Works now!? Thanks.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
Win32
On 8/27/2024 12:02 PM, Jamie H wrote:
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翱谤…….
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I forgot to add a firewall rule.
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Try again, sorry.
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Jamie
Hughes
WA7JH
(360)
340-8886
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That looks like the HamNet (the block of
Internet addresses reserved for public ham radio). His
HamNet fragment may not have a route to the public Internet.
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Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it
just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Just in case no one has said it, you
make a really cool tool.
I've had to fight it a little bit, as
I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always
seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for
doing a demo on this to my club!
?
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
翱谤…….
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I forgot to add a firewall rule.
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Try again, sorry.
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Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Andrew P.
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!!
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That looks like the HamNet (the block of Internet addresses reserved for public ham radio). His HamNet fragment may not have a route to the public Internet.
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Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?
On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
?
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
That looks like the HamNet (the block of Internet addresses reserved for public ham radio). His HamNet fragment may not have a route to the public Internet.
Andrew, KA2DDO
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Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?
On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Andrew,
?
Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
?
I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
?
Weather enabled!!
ADS-B enabled!!!!
RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
Custom objects created!
?
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
?
Andrew, thank you man!!
?
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it
just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?
On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
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Andrew,
?
Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
?
I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or
something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working....
And man is it cool!
?
Weather enabled!!
ADS-B enabled!!!!
RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
Custom objects created!
?
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
?
Andrew, thank you man!!
?
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my
club!
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Andrew,
?
Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
?
I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
?
Weather enabled!!
ADS-B enabled!!!!
RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
Custom objects created!
?
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
http://44.31.200.6:8008/
?
Andrew, thank you man!!
?
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
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public thanks to Uri DO7HBL
I want to thank Uri for doing the tedious and (before now) thankless job of correcting my lousy German/Deutsch translation of the YAAC UI. His work is much appreciated, and will be included in the next build of YAAC.
Uh, did I get the APRS symbol types correct, or are they incorrect or lousy grammar as well?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Hi there,
A useful alternative to mapping missing/fixing incorrect OSM data is by using the mobile app Streetcomplete [1]. It's currently only available for Android.
It allows you to add missing OSM data (data to a high level of specificity, e.g. width of roads, tactile kerbs at pedestrian crossings, etc) while you walk. To have your edits accepted you still need an openstreetmap.org website account.
I'm not affiliated with the creator, but I'm a big user of it for mapping local data.
Hope that helps.
73s,
Bernard/ei8fdb/m5fdb
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On 31/07/2024 12:53, Andrew P. wrote: Get an account on the openstreetmap.org website, then use the web-based map editors (I usually use iD) to correct existing entries or draw new ones. For example, I went around my neighborhood and plotted the location of every fire hydrant, and then used iD to add new Nodes for each fire hydrant at the appropriate coordinates with the attribute emergency=fire_hydrant.
However, if you do make changes, please make sure they are accurate, precise, and correct. You've already seen the problems caused by erroneous input data. Better not to enter anything than to enter something wrong.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 8:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM
There are lots of errors and missing data in Bulloch County, GA
What's the best way to submit corrections, please?
On 7/30/24 18:28, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote:
I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rp
Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...
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Not sure. Sometime after this I assumed you fixed it, cause it finally went above 147.00.
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Thanks
Dale
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Greetings. I finally got back to the monitor frequency issue you were having, and was unable to replicate it. However, YAAC is aware of some other countries' band allocations (not all, because not all nations post their amateur radio regulations on the Internet and in a language I can read :-( ). For example, the United Kingdom (Great Britain) stops their 2-meter band at 147.000 (not 148.000 like the US and Canada) and does not have a 1.25-meter band, so YAAC goes directly to their bottom of the 70cm band at 430.000. Per chance, were you using a Raspberry Pi with the Raspbian operating system and didn't properly set your locale to en_US instead of the Raspbian default of en_GB? Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Dale Miller - KC2CBD <stpatrick2@...> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2024 9:53 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Monitor Frequency Yes in the Beacon Settings next to "Monitor Frequency" Thanks Dale KC2CBD
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Re: Incorrect Position on YAAC
Ercan,
Also please note that your sample traffic showed only position reports from the YM3KCN-4 station, and no position reports at all for the I-gates. If YAAC doesn't receive position reports about the I-gates themselves, it will never "know" where
they are.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Lynn, you called it exactly correct. On Ercan's original screenshot, the I-gate stations were using the green digipeater star icon with the red question mark overlay, indicating a vicinity plot (i.e.,
a not-so-wild guess as to the location of a station without a position report).?
No station that had sent a real position report message would be using that icon/overlay combination because question marks aren't legal overlay characters; YAAC uses it for exactly that reason to indicate vicinity-plotted stations
until it hears a position report about that station itself, when it will locate the station at its reported location instead of the best-guess with the station's correct icon.
Bob Bruninga WB4APR (SK) wrote up the concept of vicinity plotting at
If you don't like vicinity plotting, you can turn it off in the YAAC expert-mode Configuration dialog on the Behavior tab.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
If it helps diagnose the issue at all, here's where APRSIS32 shows these three stations this morning:
If I had to guess, I would say that YAAC hadn't yet received a position update for the 2 IGates and therefore didn't know exactly where to plot them.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 8/7/2024 3:29 AM, Ercan TOSUN via groups.io wrote:
Position
of 2 i-gate (TA1NAK-10, TA1CUN-14) stations repeating station YM3KCN-4 is incorrect.?Is there a solution to this error? 
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Lynn, you called it exactly correct. On Ercan's original screenshot, the I-gate stations were using the green digipeater star icon with the red question mark overlay, indicating a vicinity plot (i.e.,
a not-so-wild guess as to the location of a station without a position report).?
No station that had sent a real position report message would be using that icon/overlay combination because question marks aren't legal overlay characters; YAAC uses it for exactly that reason to indicate vicinity-plotted stations
until it hears a position report about that station itself, when it will locate the station at its reported location instead of the best-guess with the station's correct icon.
Bob Bruninga WB4APR (SK) wrote up the concept of vicinity plotting at
If you don't like vicinity plotting, you can turn it off in the YAAC expert-mode Configuration dialog on the Behavior tab.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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If it helps diagnose the issue at all, here's where APRSIS32 shows these three stations this morning:
If I had to guess, I would say that YAAC hadn't yet received a position update for the 2 IGates and therefore didn't know exactly where to plot them.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 8/7/2024 3:29 AM, Ercan TOSUN via groups.io wrote:
Position
of 2 i-gate (TA1NAK-10, TA1CUN-14) stations repeating station YM3KCN-4 is incorrect.?Is there a solution to this error? 
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Re: Incorrect Position on YAAC
If it helps diagnose the issue at all,
here's where APRSIS32 shows these three stations this morning:
If I had to guess, I would say that YAAC
hadn't yet received a position update for the 2 IGates and
therefore didn't know exactly where to plot them.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 8/7/2024 3:29 AM, Ercan TOSUN via
groups.io wrote:
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Position
of 2 i-gate (TA1NAK-10, TA1CUN-14) stations repeating station
YM3KCN-4 is incorrect.?Is there a solution to this error? 
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Incorrect Position on YAAC
Position of 2 i-gate (TA1NAK-10, TA1CUN-14) stations repeating station YM3KCN-4 is incorrect.?Is there a solution to this error? 
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Mark, I usually don't take requests but if it's something annoying the ham community, and I have some time, I can go in and fix things.
That said, there are a ton of videos on YouTube, written resources online, and other cartographers in chat rooms that can help you learn how to do it yourself.? The OSM Wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org) is a great resource for finding out how things are expected to be tagged.
If I can help you out, please let me know.
73, Eric WG3K
FM18rp Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM E-Mail: wg3k@...
On Wednesday, July 31st, 2024 at 08:24, Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...> wrote:
Many thanks Andrew and Eric.? I got the account on OSM and explored before I wrote the question but quickly decided I was probably going to do more harm than good trying to fix it...so thanks for making the updates, I look forward to seeing them in the updated YAAC server files.
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Bad news. The date of the weekly OSM snapshot that was posted 5 days ago started the export 4 days before that, i.e., it took 4 _days_ to do the export. Which makes me guess that the next transactional export started a day before Eric made the
edit, so his fixes won't show up until the export after that starts on August 6th, which won't be available until August 10th, and therefore not processed and posted by me until at least the 12th.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Many thanks Andrew and Eric.? I got the account on OSM and explored before I wrote the question but quickly decided I was probably going to do more harm than good trying to fix it...so thanks for making the updates, I look forward to seeing them in the
updated YAAC server files.
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Many thanks Andrew and Eric.? I got the account on OSM and explored before I wrote the question but quickly decided I was probably going to do more harm than good trying to fix it...so thanks for making the updates, I look forward to seeing them in the updated YAAC server files.
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Get an account on the openstreetmap.org website, then use the web-based map editors (I usually use iD) to correct existing entries or draw new ones. For example, I went around my neighborhood and plotted the location of every fire hydrant, and then used iD to add new Nodes for each fire hydrant at the appropriate coordinates with the attribute emergency=fire_hydrant. However, if you do make changes, please make sure they are accurate, precise, and correct. You've already seen the problems caused by erroneous input data. Better not to enter anything than to enter something wrong. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 8:20 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM There are lots of errors and missing data in Bulloch County, GA What's the best way to submit corrections, please? On 7/30/24 18:28, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote: I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rp
Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...
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Jamie H
Dale Miller - KC2CBD
Mark