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Locked Re: Problem with leading spaces in a sensor "username".

 

Ken,

Again thanks. I read all the release notes for 4.7.x and didn¡¯t see anything regarding normalizing names that have leading space(s). Not sure if trailing spaces are included in the process.

Marshall

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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Re: Problem with leading spaces in a sensor "username".


I checked and 7.4.2 was the beginning of it, but I think there were more
changes a bit later. But I'd ask if you think you see mention of it in the
notes. Sometimes what gets entered into the notes is not the best wording.
It may have made sense to the coder but not the user. If you think it isn't
mentioned in one of those, or was poorly worded, let us know.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

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Locked Re: JMRI in edit only mode

 

The first thing is to ensure that you have reinstalled the SiLabs CP210x drivers from the SiLabs website:
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and that the driver is loading and at which COM port (a Windows reinstall will quite likely change this).

Please check the above and then
- Tell us what jumpers you have on the NCE USB.
- Start JMRI, immediately go to the Help->System Console menu item and click on "Copy to Clipboard". Paste this into a post for us all to see. Without a Console Log we are advising blind - we can tell a lot from the console log.
--
Dave in Australia

Armidale NSW 2350, Australia

On 21 Jun 2017, at 12:25 PM, thirdgenfcarnut@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

I recently had my PC restored by a low level format and then upgraded to Windows 8 (from Vista). I downloaded the JMRI version 4.6 and started using the WiThrottle right away with no issue. I later tried to program a Wowsound v4 decoder and was not able to read it. I then realized service mode programmer and operations mode programmer were in red and the program is stuck in "edit only" mode. I have a NCE Powercab and USB interface. I also have the NCE auto switch to provide me with a dedicated programming track. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Locked Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle

 

Jim: I saw you signature after I had posted. If "Breezlys" fix did not fix it, can you control the locos with a Digitrax hand held throttle?
Walt


Locked Re: DR5000 XpressNet

 

Thanks Paul.

The DR5000 has Wi-fi (router) and lan built in.

I have tried to use LAN, Wi-fi and also a Lenz 23151 LAN/USB with XpressNet to the DR5000

I have got a set 100 also, which I¡¯ve tested with for a datum.

You may be right on the lh100 but I think it¡¯s the LZV100 that has different options, for auto, manual startup etc.

So far, I¡¯ve found that the command station has provided an interface version and XpressNet version (3.6) but replies with the command station does not know this command (61 82) to a request for the stack (e3 5 0 0). I know this from monitoring the IP network and also from Xcode debugger. JMRI displays waiting for response from command station in its activity monitor.

I get this same behaviour on all connection types: Wi-fi , LAN and XpressNet on Lenz interface.

With the LH100 I have tested the DR5000 and the Set 100 and found that the LH100 ¡°remembers¡± loco function status, speedster etc and rebroadcasts this after a power cycle of the LZV100. This is not the case with the DR5000 which the LH100 assumes all locos are set to stop and all functions off. This information is not broadcast though as any running loco will keep running after a power cycle until it has some sort of update such as function changed. This is presumably because the decoder is using its memory and after cycling the DR5000 power it¡¯s not instructed to do anything different.

This leads me to think that the DR5000 is not implementing the stack, despite the option being checked.

Indeed, when using JMRI¡¯s stack manager, the activity monitor just keeps ¡°waiting for reply from command station¡± (quote from my memory!)

FYI, the DR5000 has an English manual at www.digikeijs.com

I have a couple of questions you may be able to help with.

1. Is there a vendor ID in the XpressNet protocol? I don¡¯t see any reference but this would be useful for auto discovery. (Much like the vendor ID for decoders).

2. Does XpressNet have any more detail for command station type than the 3 in the XpressNet protocol manual from Lenz? I.e. That manual specifies Le/LZV100. LV200 and Compact. Do you know if hardware vendors are assigned or supposed to use their own identifier? The DR5000 appears to identify itself as an LZV100, does the Z21 for example do the same?

3. Do any other XpressNet devices you¡¯ve worked with other than Lenz implement the stack ok? I.e. Do they respond to e3 5 0 0 with a valid response?

Thanks for the help

Mike


Locked Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle

 

Jim,

It sounds like your command station is in "Stop" mode. I'm not sure how to correct that using JMRI, maybe turn the power on twice (can you even do that or does JMRI toggle between off and on)?

Otherwise, here's a link to the indication and how to change that mode with a DTxxx throttle:
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HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"

---In jmriusers@..., <jhswann@...> wrote :

Hi Walt.

I did sign my name...it was a few spaces down on the page and I apologize. Thanks for answering me. After fiddling for several hours I have noted the following:
1. Power on/off works well and track voltage is 14.9V. Cycling the power doesn't fix the problem. All circuit breakers are OK when power is on....no shorts etc.All my locos are involved (9)
2. Some of the decoder functions work in the locos (mostly sounds like the horns, the brakes, the coupler squeals). None of the engine controls work. Also I note that the buttons on the throttles don't shade/unshade normally with a mouse click. Sometimes they just stay on.
3. If I work from a new roster entry, the new roster entry also does not work
4. Things like switch control, script running etc. works OK...but not to control the engines
5. Opening and closing the program makes no difference.
6. Working from Decoder pro makes no difference
7. Somehow I'v lost all my communication with the engine power...even though the loconet and the slot program tells me the commands have been issued.
I turned the whole computer off tonight thinking it may be something with the USB drivers. I'll restart in the AM
I have no idea what's gone on with the set-up . Very frustrating!


Thoughts?
Jim Swann


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Locked Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle

 

Hi Walt.

I did sign my name...it was a few spaces down on the page and I apologize. Thanks for answering me. After fiddling for several hours I have noted the following:
1. Power on/off works well and track voltage is 14.9V. Cycling the power doesn't fix the problem. All circuit breakers are OK when power is on....no shorts etc.All my locos are involved (9)
2. Some of the decoder functions work in the locos (mostly sounds like the horns, the brakes, the coupler squeals). None of the engine controls work. Also I note that the buttons on the throttles don't shade/unshade normally with a mouse click. Sometimes they just stay on.
3. If I work from a new roster entry, the new roster entry also does not work
4. Things like switch control, script running etc. works OK...but not to control the engines
5. Opening and closing the program makes no difference.
6. Working from Decoder pro makes no difference
7. Somehow I'v lost all my communication with the engine power...even though the loconet and the slot program tells me the commands have been issued.
I turned the whole computer off tonight thinking it may be something with the USB drivers. I'll restart in the AM
I have no idea what's gone on with the set-up . Very frustrating!


Thoughts?
Jim Swann


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

John.,


Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, the appropriate cars are there on the 7 missing tracks.




Norman


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

Dan,


Thanks. I have checked them carefully, and found nothing. But I have to believe that, as you suggest, something must be set wrong in those tracks.


When I get time over the next few weeks, I will delete the missing tracks, one at a time, and copy one of the good tracks to recreate the missing track, then relocate the cars to that track. Maybe this will fix it.


Thanks again.




Norman


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

John,


Yes, the appropriate cars show up on the "missing" tracks. Thanks for the suggestion.




Norman


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

Dan,


I appreciate the quick response. But you missed the point. I cannot even select any or the seven tracks in order to build a train. I can select any of the other 43. Each train is built from one and one only staging track. If I can't select the track, I can't build the train, and can't produce a build report to figure it out.


This is version 4.7.5 R187bd9e and Java version 1.8.0_131




Norman


Locked Trying to figure out signaling on Panelpro Layout Builder

 

Hello everyone,

I am trying to figure out signaling, I have made a simple 5 block track segment with signals protecting each block boundary, I have created blocks for each section and put in virtual occupancy detectors. I did the discover signal logic option for each of the signals. When I set the sensor for a block to show occupied the track section turns red but the signals all remain showing the 'clear' aspect. I can change the aspects of the signals by clicking them but none of the others will change, ie I would think the signal approaching the stop aspect should show an approach aspect etc. What am I missing here? Also if it helps I am using the BNSF 1996 signal aspects with virtual signal masts at each section boundary.

I have followed the instructions of both signaling guides found on the JMRI website to no avail.

Please help,


Locked JMRI in edit only mode

 

Hello all,


I recently had my PC restored by a low level format and then upgraded to Windows 8 (from Vista). I downloaded the JMRI version 4.6 and started using the WiThrottle right away with no issue. I later tried to program a Wowsound v4 decoder and was not able to read it. I then realized service mode programmer and operations mode programmer were in red and the program is stuck in "edit only" mode. I have a NCE Powercab and USB interface. I also have the NCE auto switch to provide me with a dedicated programming track. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Best regards,


Stephen


Locked Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle

 

I suspect it means that you are not connected to the command station from the computer.

Can you turn track power On and Off using the JMRI 'Power Control" tool?


Signing you name help us talk to you.
Walt


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

If you can't quickly figure it out, the train's build report will state why the seven tracks were ignored.

Dan


Locked Re: DR5000 XpressNet

 

Mike,
On Jun 17, 2017, at 11:30 AM, mike@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Hi, I am trying to get to grips with the DR5000 with JMRI on XpressNet over LAN or WiFi.

So far, I am having some issues, so I am wondering if anyone has come across them or know of fixes!

Firstly, is the DR5000's XpressNet implementation somewhat buggy? For example, when I plug in an LH100 Lenz handheld, Pessing the power off / on button does restore the track power, but does not cut it out, is this by design in the DR5000?
On the LH100, I believe there is a setting that sets whether the stop button sends an off or an emergency stop. ( I may have that confused with another device though, not looking at a manual and my LH100 is not unpacked yet.)

Secondly, when I connect to JMRI via the LAN (with XpressNet setup) I cannot seem to get a consistent connection.
Is this via an LIUSB-Ethernet, or some other connection? Do I remember correctly that the DR5000 has an Ethernet port of its own?

I may have asked for this before, Is there a manual for the DR5000, preferably in English.

The XpressNet Activity monitor keeps trying to get the command station status but gets no response. Also, I can use a throttle window to control a loco, but when I hit the power button it turns the track voltage off, but will not then re-store it? I assume it is because the command station is not responding to the request, or actually, not giving a status update that it has carried out the shutdown event.
Any of that is possible. Every manufacturer seems to interpret the XPressNet protocol slightly differently. Sometimes each device has a different implementation ( this is true even with the Lenz interfaces... )

I can tell you this, if you're you are using the Lenz LIUSB-Ethernet, I wouldn't expect anything to work correctly in JMRI that doesn't work correctly using the LH100.

Paul


Locked Re: Consist Settings

 

See below:

On 21 Jun 2017, at 7:35 AM, RDUhleNkott@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Ted,
You say you have the functions on both units set to respond to the consist
address. Set the functions you want to stay off on the second unit to
respond to locomotive address only.
Correct.

Wil,
More accurately, NCE uses the lead unit address as an ALIAS for the consist
address. The command station still sends its orders to the consist
address. Otherwise the other units would not move when the lead unit does.
When addressing a consist, NCE command stations:
- Always sends speed commands to the consist address.
- Always send function commands to the lead loco alias (or rear if you select it)
- Sends function commands to the consist address, provided Send Function Commands to Consist is turned on in Setup Command Station (need the NCE throttle to check this)
- Automatically reverses the direction of speed commands to the consist address if you have selected the rear loco.

Dave


Rick U


In a message dated 6/20/2017 11:42:45 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
jmriusers@... writes:

When using advance consisting with NCE, what you say is usually true,
sometimes you have to adjust, I think, CV21 and CV22 to get the lights
right. However, with NCE you run the consist with the lead engine
number as the address, NOT the consist address. If you use the consist
address the same information will be sent to every loco in the consist.


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

BirminghamRails
 

Just out of curiosity

Look at you car roster sorted by location and see if your cars show up on the"missing" tracks

John
Birmingham


Locked Re: Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

Norman,

The program will only list tracks that the train can use. Look at the 7 tracks carefully, there's something you did to tell the program that those tracks can't be used. Let us know what you find.

Dan


Locked Operations -- Missing staging tracks

 

Some of my staging tracks do not show up when I try to build a train.


I have 50 staging tracks, all set up identically, all loaded with cars. I have the option to select which track to use to build a train. When I try to build a train, only 43 of the tracks show up. The train will build perfectly from those 43 tracks. But where are the other 7? I am so confused.


Any ideas? Advice?




Norman


Locked Re: Problem with Signal Logic on PanelPro track plan

 

Fraser,

I recommend that you move your custom signal mast system to your user files location. This eliminates the need to update the JMRI install location each time you install a different release. Your "user files location" appears to be "/C:/Users/Fraser/Documents/Railway/JMRI/".

The structure that I would use is "resources/signals/BR-2003 fws". The aspect and appearance files go here and the icons would be in an icons directory: resources/signals/BR-2003 fws/icons.

The initial migration is a BIG job. The <imagelink> entries in the appearance xml files need to have the path changed. There might be other required changes but I have not done this recently.

One issue that I see is that you are using both "BR-2003" and "BR-2003 fws" signal systems. This can cause discovery problems. You will need to add the required entries from BR-2003 to the "fws" version. It appears that the only mast type that you are using from BR-2003 is "buffer-stop". After you add that appearance file and related icons to "fws", then you need to edit the 23 occurrences in the panel xml to use custom signal mast system name.

Do you have a couple of specific masts that we can concentrate on?

Dave Sand