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This is a place for temp files, other than administrative files. Either they are to be added to the next release, added to the Documents or will have a short life span. 开云体育 has free subscription storage limit of 1 GB! The following are counted towards the storage limits for the group: - Files - Photos - Images in databases - Images in wiki pages - Message attachments 1. Please put files into the correct folders. - If there is not an appropriate folder, feel free to create one. 2. If you are working on a problem and want to load info for others to look at, create a folder within the 'Problems Being Worked On' folder using the Msg number or you name as the folder name. When the problem is resolved please delete the folder. 3. All files and photos are subject to removal at the moderators discretion. Your Moderators -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - http://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: >>HOW TO ASK YOUR QUESTION<< - A general reminder for everyone
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====================== HOW to ask your question ====================== One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to get you any useful help. When asking ANY question, you should >>>utilize a meaningful subject line<<< that indicates the problem and include the following information in the body of the message: + If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen) + Has JMRI worked before on this computer? + JMRI version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Java version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Computer make and model + if you have just upgraded, from which version + Any other DCC devices in use + Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc. Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you accurate answers. Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable! Your moderators and trouble shooters.
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics. We are getting lots of subject lines that don't give much if any idea of what the topic is about. By providing a meaningful subject line you may get the attention of someone that can provide you assistance with your issue. It also give others the chance to skip the topic if it is not of interest to them. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - https://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: PERMITTED TOPICS - A general reminder for everyone
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We would like to point out that this list is for discussions related to JMRI, and is intended to be a place that people, particularly beginners, can turn to for help with their JMRI problems from more experienced JMRI users. General DCC and model railroading topics should be taken to a more appropriate forum and NOT be posted here. SPAM of any kind, politics, legal issues, and other off-topic matters should NOT be posted to the list and will be subject to deletion by the moderators, as will any responses to such off-topic matters. New members still on moderated status will find that off-topic posts will not be approved for posting, and old members making such posts may find themselves back on moderated status. BUY / SELL and ADVERTISING is NOT PERMITTED Let's keep things simple for all of us, and keep the discussion here on-topic. Your moderators
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Train tracking, dealing with gaps
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#traintracking
I created a nice panel for the museum layout and created train tracking markers on it. It works well except for one show stopping thing. At one spot in the loop there is a detection gap between blocks that kills the tracking. The gap is only 1 or 2 seconds. Is there a workaround for this? Increasing train length is not an option. Installing a new detector is not likely either. George
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Cars Returning to Staging
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Hello folks I've been using JMRI for Operations for about 12 years, with good success, thanks in no small part to this forum. I operate a windows 10 system computer with JMRI 5.10 with Java 17. I use a 12 track staging yard which serves a large switching layout representing the Birmingham Industrial District (AL) in the steam era and very early diesel era. The staging tracks hold about 12 to 15 or a few more cars. There are two other smaller C/I yards and 7 interchange tracks, plus individual industries and a steel mill. We have monthly operating sessions. The different trains and staging tracks represent the 9 trunk railroads that served Birmingham in the steam era. Staged trains occupy a designated staging track - they always use the same one and return to the same one. Staging tracks are numbered "-1 or -2", and trains are set for "trains may return to staging". So, a train may leave staging 1-1 and then return to staging 1-2. This has worked fine for years and still does, but with a difference. (The overall goal of the RR's operation is to serve the on-layout steel mill, with multiple trains assembling required materials to deliver to the blast furnaces - not a part of this question. Some trains originate at the two smaller C/I yards, rather than staging.) Since upgrading to version 5.10 a month or two ago, I notice that some trains now show part of a (longer) train with cars going out to the layout and part of that same train being moved from the departure track to the future arrival track in staging. In the past, prior to 5.10, I believe all the cars would leave staging, including those with no destination on the layout, and return to staging. Basically these cars "took a ride" and then returned home. The cars "taking a ride" would be included in the departing train's car count as well as the returning train's car count. I liked having the "extra" cars taking a ride and increasing the interest of the various switching operations, and then returning to staging. As an example, the NB L&N Local Freight, is assigned to staging 1-1, and has 18 cars in staging. The build is successful and shows 9 cars departing for the layout, and 9 cars "moving" from track 1-1 to 1-2. Upon inspection of the build report, I find that these 9 "stay at home" cars have no destination on the layout -- either no room or no allowable location. The 9 cars that do have an available destination go away, get set out and 9 new cars return from the layout. The car count leaving and returning is 9 cars. (It would previously have been 18 out and 18 back) Now, I realize that I could instruct my operators to ignore the "move" instruction for cars remaining/returning to staging, but they get confused about the car count along the train's route. I also realize I can just let the cars sit in staging rather than "go for a ride", but what's the fun in that? There are also situations where the train may rightly move a car from an interchange track to a local industry. This is OK and the car count for the train's advance is "correct". So a "blanket" instruction to operators about ignoring "move" instructions wouldn't work either. So, my question is, "cars returning to staging used to go out on the layout, and take a ride back to staging -- can this be made to happen as it used to?" That is, the "move" instruction would have been a "P/U" instruction for leaving staging, and a "S/O" instruction upon return instead of what I'll call a "move to remain" instruction. Thanks for the help. John Stewart Birmingham, AL
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Difference Between Compare and Reset
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#decoderpro
All, Recently developed a problem with one of my older diesels, an N scale Bachmann with Econami factory installled. Def used is ECO-100 Diesel. Sound was fine, loco would not move. On the programming track, I loaded the loco's DecoderPro roster entry file and used the CVs tab to compare all values. No differences. Loco still not moving. Did a Reset. Loco now moves. Rewrote all CVs from the loco's roster entry file. Loco now will again not move. To emphasize, these settings have worked fine for years. Are there some settings somewhere that DecoderPro can not see or change, except by reset? Regards
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Cannot start to read decoders
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Hi, I am running DecoderPro since many years without any Problem. I recently got another Laptop with win11Pro preinstalled - Version 24H2. After installation DecoderPro ask me to get started by checking in with a new Loco placed on the programming track. It comes back with the correct decoder and I store it in the Roster. When I exit and restart DecoderPro I click NEW+ to get a new Loco and decoder recognized, but the field at the bottom left ( Read decoder type) is greyed out. After deinstallation i even deleted all remnants from JMRI and even cleaned the registry as far as I could. I reinstalled - did no new Lokomotive, but tried to import a complete Lokpark/Roster from my second laptop - all 104 locos appeared correctly, but I cannot add a new locomotive/decoder because in the new locomotive Window the button at the bottom left (read decoder Type) is still greyd out. And no - I am not Read only.... I red several JMRI topics, I tried to rebuild the coplete Lokpar/Roster (which did nothing) and so I am stuck. I am working with DR5000/Yamorc YD7001 and Z21, I can work with the Throttle without any Problem, so the connection to my centralStation is ok (over WIFI by the way) I am currently on 5.10.4 Release but tried also the 5.11.4 TestRelease with same result. Can I ask to help me ? Vest regards Erik
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How to delete a turnout with jython
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I can easily create turnouts, sensors and blocks but I can't delete them from their Panel Pro tables with jython. The only method I found while browsing the class structure was dispose() and that had no effect. So far I am only using the simple jython classes ( if I have the nomenclature correct) in statements like turnouts.newTurnout(...) . -- -Ralph
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Train tracking markers lacking when editing
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JMRI 5.10 on W11 I thought I would experiment with train tracking on a layout editor panel. I found that when the loco IDs are placed near a block that there is no indication that something has been placed there. After a train has passed through that area then tiny little blocks show up on the panel in edit mode (if everything was done correctly). This makes me grumpy. George
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Script output delayed
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In developing some scripts, I often print to the output, as it helps debug the program. I am noticing that the output is extremely delayed Is there anyway the output can be updated? I use print statements so I can see where the application is currently processing, when I do print, I print the current time and date Then I pause the Script before processing more statements. I use statement like, time.sleep(10) I’m wondering, if using this kind of statement to pause my script causes the output to pause also
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Problems with an SML Pair
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I cannot get a single mast pair T7 to T2 via B7 to work as expected. T7 is a ghost block with a detection block pre and post. T1, T2 and T3 all share a detection block. B17 Shown below is a single block with detection sensors. I have two paths (B7, B8) coming in from T7 which I've shown below that share same entrance to T7 and exit from T2. The SML was auto-generated. The diverging path works as expected. That is, it knows that T7 must be thrown, T1 must be closed (invert) and T2 to its right must be thrown (invert) to pass traffic. The mast on the right (T2) never changes aspect although the T7 mast changes to approach as I'd expect. When auto-generated, jmri paired the T2 mast with another mast in the yard block (BYE) for unknown logic. Complete layout follows for completeness. Note: All start at B17 and counter-clockwise on B1 or B9. B9, B11 are up and over B8,B7. I copied the logic from T1 mast to T2 mast in the xml but it produced the same results. I have done grand resets (deleting all paths and SML in this case) several times and I've run out of ideas. File is uploaded problems and a convenience link below. XML file uploaded to Problems... I hope somebody here has some suggestion. //stevemac
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Signal Mast Pairs - what aspect if none active?
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Here I have three options to set the signal, their conditions resulting all being not active (as intended). For these conditions I have LogixNG to set the mast to an aspect I require. I suspect the aspect is being set but immediately changed to Danger. Does SML default to forcing the mast to Danger when no mast pairs are Active? -- H.O. Australia (Layout in Progress) Digikeijs DR5000 LocoNet JMRI v5.10 DecoderPro/Warrants/CPE/SML/LogixNG Java: OpenLogic jre-17.0.12.7 Windows 10
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Loading table content and panels xml file using MacOS Mongomery from Dropbox - Error Loading File Appears
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Hi All Would anyone be able to assist with this issue. History back ground I have been using windows 10 PC's for many years with no issues and dropbox to store the information. This has been working without any issues for over 10 years. Now the PC's have been at different locations and still operating. Now one of the PC's is normally has the preferences configured to the railway hardware and the other PC the preferences are set to Simulator. Absolutely nothing new there works amazing. Loading Issue using Montgomery OS Now Moving on to the issue now. I was presented with the opportunity to change to a Mac mini using Catalina OS and Montgomery OS. I loaded the latest test version of JMRI onto Montgomery and all set up correctly in simulation mode and again using dropbox . When I tried to load table content and panels and selecting the correct xml file version. I get these error messages as shown below So then I decided to try using Catalina OS and repeat the same JMRI set up with Dropbox again. To my surprise when I selected load table contents and panels and the same xml file version. Every thing loads correctly as expected with no issues appreciate any assistance or ideas to resolve the issue Regards Peter
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Automatic Dispatching
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I've tried several different ways to get trains to run automatically, but I keep running into ( maybe I should say "creating my own") roadblocks. At 83, I'm not sure how many more wrong ways to do it I can afford to try. I've set signal heads all around the layout. I try to set Blocks, Sections and a Transit to run a train and I get it set to go through several Sections, but then I get to a turnout and it will allow me to set the diverging route out, but the continuing route isn't available. I can't find what's different between the Block on he diverging leg and the one on the continuing leg of the turnout. So, I read some of the JMRI documentation and decided to try using Signal Masts and letting JMRI set up Sections and Transits on the fly. I took a portion of the Panel and deleted the signal heads around a turnout to use the Set Signal Masts menu. It sets the Masts for both routes entering the frog end of the turnout, but there's no option to set a Mast with signals for the points end of the same turnout. Before I waste any more time on rabbit holes, can someone steer me to the easiest way to set up my goals? Or point me at the page in the JMRI documents where I can read the proper steps to take and the order to build it? I'd like to: 1. Be able to send a train autonomously from the modeled layout into a specific staging track. 2. Be able to have trains scheduled to come out of staging into the modeled area at preprogrammed clock times or upon specified events. 3. Be able to manually trigger a train in staging by selecting either the train or the track it's on and select where it needs to go. This forum has been so great thanks to the helpful folks here who have been so willing to share their time and experience.
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Chaining transits with a different locomotive
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Hi, Still continuing to test chaining of transits. It look like if you chain a new tansit using "load traininfo” but with a different locomotive, dispatcher doesn't use the new locomotive but continue to run the new transit with the previous locomotive. Any idea? JeanLouisDelestre@... De: "Ken Heywood via groups.io" <kheywood@...> ?: [email protected] Envoyé: Dimanche 23 Mars 2025 07:57:36 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Dispatcher question - chaining transits #dispatcher I use transit actions “load traininfo” and then “terminate” at the end of a transit. This is especially useful when your train has a reversing move. -- Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu Blog: Cape Cod Railroad (HO) – Newbie of an Oldie Youtube: Ken's Channel -- --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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JMRI Loconet control of DCS240+
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Environment is a Raspberry Pi 3B with bookworm, Java 17, JMRI 5.10 I recently replaced our club DCS200 (it died) with a DCS240+. There has long been a Pi3 running JMRI controlling the layout via Loconet. For that, in the connections panel I had selected DCS200 as the command station and Loconet-USB as the connection type. My question is now that I have the DCS240+ in place what selection do I make for the Command station? I still use Loconet-USB for the connection type. Selecting DCS240+ as the command station results in no Loconet activity from JMRI. -- Dale Gloer Jack of all trades at home and Southern Alberta Model Railway
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Printing Switchlists
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I've got 4 trains to run and I want to build the trains and print the switchlists for the engineers before the operating session starts. In doing so I noticed that one boxcar was a pickup and move by the first train thru that yard, but a second train had the same box car to be moved also. Am I doing this correctly or is there some way to avoid this occurring pls?
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two scripts using one sensor
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Can two scripts use the same sensor? Sure i can include then in one script, but just asking. I have one scripted finished controlling signals. The other script I want to control the room lights, the sensor with trigger and API to turn on the room lights.
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How do I move JMRI from one laptop to another laptop.
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Hello. I am totally confused on how to do this. I'm using a Lenovo thinkpad and want to move Jmri to a newer Dell laptop. I'm using Jmri 5.8 and java 11. I have read the the files I need to move are in the preferences under file locations. The "users file location" name is C:/users/usr/JMRI/. When I open that file, how do I move it to the new laptop that has JMRI loaded on to it. I am the furthest from be a computer guy and do not want to start all over as it has taken more than 3 yrs. to set up panel pro with track diagram, block detection, signal etc. Could someone please help me using the most layman terms to explain how to do this. My comprehension of computer terms is very small. Thank in advance for any help. -- MARK TAYLOR
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