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I have a similar timeout issue with my setup (WiThrottle on Phones). From
what I've been able to track down, my problem appears more to be my Wifi
network, not my old slow laptop. I actually brought up a packet sniffer,
and didn't even see the packets hitting the laptop in a timely manner, so
eventhough you have a "strong" signal, you may still be getting
internference from other networks nearby, or someone else on the same
wireless network may be hogging all the space.



-Stephen

David

They are BD20’s with a common ground using inputs 1-4. Four having the same
result doesn’t seem to be a hardware issue. I was trying to Reach NCE today
but they’re website is mostly down. I’m getting a flash on the LED’s on the
AIU that correspond with the JMRI sensor display. But only when the trains
cross the block gaps.

In case it could be a voltage issue (I don’t have a voltmeter handy.), I
swapped out one power lead from 18Ga to 22Ga wire and got a third loop
around the BD20’s coil. It had no impact on the issue. I think I’ll need
a software solution to the problem. Maybe using a memory variable when it
clicks on that resets when it clicks off.

Martin Ozolins
mdozolins@...

"Fortune favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur

From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 17:05
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI - NCE Block Detection

?
This doesnt seem to be a JMRI issue. The block detector will stay active as
long as
something that draws current (locos, conducting wheel sets, etc) is within
the block.
The detector output should remain "high" (voltage-wise) when there is no
block activity.
When the block becomes occupied, the detector output will go "low." You can
check
this with a volt meter. Are you using BD20's or DBD22's. Ive gotten both to
work well
with an AIU and JMRI.

David Richardson
Tucson

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Ozolins mdozolins@... [jmriusers]
<jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Sat, Jun 7, 2014 5:32 pm
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI - NCE Block Detection

Hi All

I just spent a couple of days going through Robert Bucklew's Quaker Valley
Lines Panel Pro tutorial (Very well done) parts one and two. After sticking
to the tutorial I paused at the end of Part 2 and figured I'd repeat part 1
and part 2 on a portion of my Living Room Layout. Then I ran into a block
detection issue, the block sensors seem to flash on when a train enters and
again when it exits, but isn't persistent so I've been unable to mark the
block occupied on the panel.

My Layout is NCE SB5, via the USB Interface, My sensors are BD20's connected
to an AUI01. My firmware is of the proper version (7.3.3) and my sensors are
being read from the AUI by JMRI. The JMRI is Version 3.6-r24520 running on
Centos 6.5 and Java 1.7 (60).

The USB interface is CAB 8

The AUI interface is CAB9 (per the SB5 Documentation)

The indications are that the sensors are triggering on entry and exit of a
block, each train passage the correct block transitions are lighting up. Is
this proper behavior for these devices? If yes how do I capture the entry
and exit of a train from each block? This will necessarily need to be
direction agnostic.

I've attached the Panel XML files as a zip archive so virus scanners won't
delete the XML and will be greatful for your advice.

Thanks in advance.

Martin Ozolins

mdozolins@...

Bob,
I'm a Mac OS X user (10.8.6) having trouble getting my C/MRI sensors to work on my PanelPro layout.
It was working (but not anymore) on another Mac OS X (10.4.5) with no problems. I unplugged the serial adapter while running PanelPro and received an error message saying that "the serial adapter was disconnected". After that I could not get the sensors to display on the layout using 10.4.5.
So, with a new Mac I though it was finally time to install everything on 10.8.6 but still no sensors are working on the panel layout.
Can you suggest some trouble shooting that I might try. I'm not at all a techie but I do have some friends that could help.
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offering trade-in for your old phone. Have they finally figured out
that we are using old phones as model rr throttles and are trying to
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This is written partly tongue in cheek but partly as a true thought.

--
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For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
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Hi David,

Thanks for the kind words.


Regarding the fast clock, you're in luck! Robin Becker has just added an option for a title bar fast clock to the latest test version of EngineDriver. You can download it from the enginedriver.rrclubs.org website and manually install it for a test drive. Please advise results.


As for the "lost connection", it seems unlikely that the laptop speed is an issue. What do you have the refresh rate set to? (Preferences, Web Server, Refresh Delay). You might try increasing the Delay to see if that helps your issue.


Regards,
SteveT

This doesnt seem to be a JMRI issue. The block detector will stay active as long as
something that draws current (locos, conducting wheel sets, etc) is within the block.
The detector output should remain "high" (voltage-wise) when there is no block activity.
When the block becomes occupied, the detector output will go "low." You can check
this with a volt meter. Are you using BD20's or DBD22's. Ive gotten both to work well
with an AIU and JMRI.


David Richardson
Tucson

Folks,
Firstly, I cannot praise the people behind Withrottle/Engine Driver enough - I haven't seen a big-name brand wireless throttle that allows touch screen selection of loco by name and photo with blissful disregard of address, selection of route and turnout by name with blissful disregard of address and consistency in operation so I no longer care what brand system I have to drive, I have the comfort of familiarity. This almost puts and end to the "which brand DCC should I buy" debate - it doesn't make much difference, just plug in JMRI and Withrottle and you no longer care.


Secondly, how quickly we move from being spoiled to being greedy. A small, fast clock on the throttle screen would be useful. I know that has been discussed before and that I can have it in a web page that uses almost half the screen and that I can have it on a screen of its own I can access by turning my phone to landscape. A friend suggested that the only other thing he needed was to have is running schedule on his phone so then he'd have all he needed in his hand and he'd be in heaven.


Now my problem. I was running with JMRI 3.4 on someone's quite old laptop running Win XP with WiThrottle and two operators. While running using DecoderPro, all seemed pretty fine. When we switched to PanelPro (to get the fast clock) we were repeated getting "lost connection" messages. The WiFi signal was strong and did not appear to be having any difficulty. Is this a symptom of using a laptop that ought to be in retirement or is there another possibility that I should investigate?


Kind regards, David.

Hi All



I just spent a couple of days going through Robert Bucklew's Quaker Valley
Lines Panel Pro tutorial (Very well done) parts one and two. After sticking
to the tutorial I paused at the end of Part 2 and figured I'd repeat part 1
and part 2 on a portion of my Living Room Layout. Then I ran into a block
detection issue, the block sensors seem to flash on when a train enters and
again when it exits, but isn't persistent so I've been unable to mark the
block occupied on the panel.



My Layout is NCE SB5, via the USB Interface, My sensors are BD20's connected
to an AUI01. My firmware is of the proper version (7.3.3) and my sensors are
being read from the AUI by JMRI. The JMRI is Version 3.6-r24520 running on
Centos 6.5 and Java 1.7 (60).



The USB interface is CAB 8

The AUI interface is CAB9 (per the SB5 Documentation)



The indications are that the sensors are triggering on entry and exit of a
block, each train passage the correct block transitions are lighting up. Is
this proper behavior for these devices? If yes how do I capture the entry
and exit of a train from each block? This will necessarily need to be
direction agnostic.



I've attached the Panel XML files as a zip archive so virus scanners won't
delete the XML and will be greatful for your advice.



Thanks in advance.



Martin Ozolins

mdozolins@...



"Fortune favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur

Ken,

The default track colour option only changes the track colour for segments of track that haven't been assigned a block and therefore do not have their own way of setting the colour. However any new segments of track that do have a new block configured will use the default track colour, but will not change if the default track colour is subsequently changed. It is this latter method that the text follow.

Regards
Kevin

I found a decommissioned TF4 in my spare decoders and made some tests with two LEDs connected to white and yellow leads.
I confirm that contrary to what Digitrax documentation (both 02/02 and 2010 versions) says, 0 is fastest and 7 is slowest values for CV62.
Actually this had been already discussed in this group ( ).

Moreover I also noticed that:
- CV62 controls the effect rate of BOTH white and yellow outputs. These two outputs are also in opposite phase, and I didn't find a way to change this.
- CV63 seems to produce NO change on anything whatsoever.

I can't read the version of this decoder (no motor load connected). I purchased it in 2009 and it was shipped with the 02/02 version of the documentation.
It might be that Digitrax have made some changes to the decoder firmware since the initial documentation publication.

I'll put a note in the TF4 decoder file and on the function pane to avoid having to raise the point again.

Alain LM

Kevin,

Yes, I have already used that process but am wondering why the text
color can't be changed all at once just like the track color. It would
be much faster for sure. Can that feature be added?

Thanks,
Ken

The initial decoder file created in 2005 was set as per Digitrax documentation (0=slowest / 7=fastest).
This was changed in 2008/2009 by Matt Harris. The version comments in the decoder file do not specifically explain this change.

@Matt (I think that you are still around) : do you remember the reason for this change ?

@Brian : do you have the possibility to make some tests with your own set up by temporary changing the values?

Alain LM

I use Memeo backup. This program came with an external hard drive I bought several years ago and I have been quite happy with it. It backs up designated files/folders as they are changed in real time. It is not a resource hog - I don't notice it running in the background. Restoring using Memeo will recreate the file structure, but the files themselves are not hashed so you can copy the backup directly if needed. Multiple backup versions can be kept, but this can quickly turn into a very backup set. I've used the program several times when transferring data between computers.

Agreed it will also do backups and restores across a network.



Martin Ozolins



"Fortune favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur



From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:45
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale - When overkill just
isn't enough, use Ghost.





Greg / Bill and members interested in backups

Norton's Ghost was a great product and I still use it for my backups.
Unfortunately, Norton has now discontinued Norton's Ghost. Company greed
found out that it was a product they could not sell a "renewable
subscription for an annual fee" like their anti-virus software, so they
discontinued it. There are still copies available on ebay and version works
for W 7 and earlier versions of Windows.Depending on the type of hard drive
you use, Western Digital makes their own imaging product that works great
and it is FREE. Nero is another reliable company that makes a great suite of
software products and one of the programs is also an imaging product.


The advantage with Ghost is that you could create a bootable disc in the
event your hard drive went toast. If you backed up your system to an
external drive,( I do not know of any other way) you could install the new
drive and boot with the disc and do a complete restore from your last backup
file. It WAS a great product. Today's method of backing up to a "cloud" is
as risky as posting your social security number on a chat site. If it is not
under your control, someone will find a way to hack into it just like Target
this past Christmas.


Good luck with the backup,
Nick Kulp

I misspoke earlier it isn't the speed table that has difficulty reading but
the volume table, and it's all the Paragon2 decoders. 147-157 are the CV's.



Martin Ozolins

<mailto:mdozolins@...> mdozolins@...

(760)405 4812



"Fortune favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur



From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 08:41
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Re: Broadway Limited Decoder Settings






Ken & Martin;
You are absolutely right. I had a senior moment ( in a hurry with fingers no
doubt ) it should have read
WRITE FULL PAGE , my sincere apology for any inconvenience Martin , that
works everytime for me and is a quick way to get on the road . On my B units
I turn horn volume to zero and turn off horn function .

Cheers

Bill W.

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers]
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Re: Broadway Limited Decoder Settings

Bill W,

If you suspect something isn't being written while other things are
changing, look at the 'CV' tab. This should show if there are CV's not
written and doing a 'write changes' from that tab would be much more
efficient writing those changes. The 'write all sheets' would be extremely
slow for some of these decoders with lots of CV's to work through.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Is it possible that this is related to the serial chipset and you need a new cable.

On His Ride,
Steve

And while no trees were hurt during the production and delivery of the email, a very large number of electrons are now in revolt over being disturbed by my iPad.

On Jun 6, 2014, at 0:45, "Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> wrote:


There are lots of ways that hardware flow control can fail silently: Bad cable connection, USB-serial adapter not implementing the control leads or doing them at a low voltage, driver not implementing them, etc. When that happens, lowering the speed removes (or reduces) the need for flow control and the connection starts working again.

Bob
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rgj1927@...

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Sure enough it's fixed in test. Works perfectly now. :)

Thanks Kevin! ?I will try the latest Jenkins build next week.?

Regards,

Robin

Marshall,

Thanks. ? I don't want the route state to change at startup, ?but yes I could set the sensor states based on the turnout positions. ?This would require duplicating the route logic in the script. ? However it looks like Kevin has fixed the route state initialization, ?so the issue is resolved.?

Regards,?

Robin

Hi

Another free option is redobackup, I have used this to backup windows xp
and 7 both 32 & 64 bit versions, and linux. Very easy to use, just download
the image, burn to cd, boot from the cd and click on the backup button.

Paul


On 6 June 2014 12:16, 'Greg Komar' gkomar@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

Bill,

Ghost is a Norton (now Symantec) product that captures everything on your
boot drive, bit by bit, and is called an “image.”

When your harddrive fails (and it will) you install a new blank harddrive,
and apply the image to it, and your computer now is an exact copy of what
it
was when you created the image.

Formatting, Windows, programs, data, settings, everything that was there
when the image was created. It is called a “bare metal restore.”

I use an older version (v8.3) that only works in DOS. I believe the new
versions can capture a Windows image while Windows is running.

Before capturing a new image, I remove the archive bit from all files on
the
boot drive, thereafter, I run an xcopy batch file daily to backup only
those
files that have changed (those that have the archive bit ‘set’).

I’ve recently retired from computer/network support of in an organization
with 6000+ PC’s, but at home, personally, I’m a bit of a retro-geek, having
only gone to WinXP in 2009.

Greg Komar

gkomar@...

"The only people with whom you should try to get even are those who have
helped you." -- John E. Southard

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From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:43 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale - When overkill just
isn't enough

Greg - What is Ghost and how is it used? - Bill

Amtrak - the ONLY way to fly!

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:35 AM, "'Greg Komar' gkomar@...
[jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Each harddrive in each PC (WinXP) in the house has a second internal drive
that is used as it's backup device.

Backed-up every evening.

Every month, the backup drives are backed up to an external drive via an
e-Sata connection.

Every 3-4 months, the boot drive ("C:") is cloned via Ghost to enable bare
metal restore.

This Ghost image has saved us many times, more from virus attacks than from
harddrive failure.

Picking through all the 'suggestions' and registry entries to remove a
virus
or malware for hours on end isn't my cup of tea.

40 minutes (or less) the boot drive is re-imaged, and the current data
restored.

It may seem a little compulsive, but if I weren't, I probably wouldn't be a
model railroader either..

Greg Komar

gkomar@...

813-453-0997

"Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art." ? Leonardo
da Vinci

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From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:43 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale

Time Machine is without a doubt the best set-and-forget backup tool.
However, it alone does not satisfy the requirements of the 3-2-1 rule for
data safety.

I use Time Machine for first-line-of-defence backups, Dropbox for sharing
(the 30 day history is a bonus), a commercial cross-platform Cloud backup
service and periodic archival backups to DVD as well as rotating USB drives
for short-term. (Yes I am a former system administrator in a data centre.)

Unfortunately I have been unable to find a satisfactory Windows equivalent
of Time Machine. I paid quite a bit for one that promised bare-metal
restore
capability like Time Machine but it failed to deliver under test. CrashPlan
(cross-platform) is very good (you can have local, Cloud or remote backups)
but it cannot do bare-metal restores. Otherwise it behaves like Time
Machine. Windows Backup is not in the same league as Time Machine.

There are two types of people; those who have had a hard drive crash and
those who will.

In my current day job (remote support of a testing and data-collection
software package) I tell all our clients that "C:" is for Crash (not my
line, but I like it). We now insist that our clients save data to a
backed-up server if at all possible (less tears on the phone now, prior to
the change of policy data loss was common).

Think about how much time and effort you have put into building all your
JMRI panels, reading all your roster into DP, not to mention those
irreplaceable family and train photographs - can you really afford not to
have a proper backup strategy?

Sent from my iPad
--
Dave in Australia

On 04/06/2014, at 4:32 PM, "up_sbrown@... [jmriusers]"
<jmriusers@...> wrote:

So whilst I agree that DropBox backs up as the items are changed there is

a finite window of recovery of around 30days, yes I too use dropbox as well
as some other cloud tools and like it/them a lot, but I still believe TM to
be viable and non invasive after the initial, and very long, archive set is
built to the point that I recommend if you have the ability to have a spare
HD hanging off your Mac then this is the simplest easiest way to back up
with out having to worry about shifting files into drop box (or other cloud
folder) first before using them. I don't believe the overhead to be
significant during incremental backups and only time I relies it's doing
something is HD platter will spin up and/or see the logo circling in menu
bar.

I am sure there are similar tools available for the windows environment

too and I am a proponent of any back up that requires human interaction
inevitably will be the one thats forgotten, and invariably needed. Also
platter based external HDs are so cheap now it's almost a crime not to back
up too.

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