Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
Mine was a white Ford CT with aluminum wheels and silicone slicks, brush spring "enhancement" and added weight in the rear. None of my friends' cars could touch it. It was a bit tricky because it would do wheelies very easily. It sure hugged the track, though.
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My stepson now has the car. He collects HO scale slot cars and has some pretty valuable ones. I gave him my 1964 Thuderjet set #1302 and my cars in a Pit-Kit carrying case, extra track and obstacle course set.
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Doug
In a message dated 9/29/2022 3:32:47 PM Central Standard Time, greatamericantrains@... writes:
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Aurora all the way, baby! My fastest car was a Stingray.
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Kevin Blair
Chanute, KS
They should be in about 1964 - 1966 issues, of which I have very few, as that's when the big slot car craze was. I got my Aurora set for Christmas of 1964.
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I did do a google search for "Atlas HO Motoring" as that's what Atlas named their series, but didn't see anything mounted on the pink style card. Most of the stuff was in blue and yellow boxes, similar to Aurora. Oddly enough, I did see a track section mounted on a card with the typical N scale colors - kind of the off orange color at the top and the rest yellow.
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Doug
In a message dated 9/29/2022 12:32:32 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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I'm pretty sure that in my perusal of the Model Railroader Magazine DVD that there were ads for Atlas HO Scale Racing Sets.? Now, if I can remember the issues in which they appeared...
If it wasn't that long before A1G then it's entirely possible that there were leftover Auto Racing cards, as we've seen.
--George
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Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
Aurora all the way, baby! My fastest car was a Stingray.
Kevin Blair Chanute, KS
They should be in about 1964 - 1966 issues, of which I have very few, as that's when the big slot car craze was. I got my Aurora set for Christmas of 1964.
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I did do a google search for "Atlas HO Motoring" as that's what Atlas named their series, but didn't see anything mounted on the pink style card. Most of the stuff was in blue and yellow boxes, similar to Aurora. Oddly enough, I did see a track section mounted on a card with the typical N scale colors - kind of the off orange color at the top and the rest yellow.
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Doug
In a message dated 9/29/2022 12:32:32 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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I'm pretty sure that in my perusal of the Model Railroader Magazine DVD that there were ads for Atlas HO Scale Racing Sets.? Now, if I can remember the issues in which they appeared...
If it wasn't that long before A1G then it's entirely possible that there were leftover Auto Racing cards, as we've seen.
--George
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Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
They should be in about 1964 - 1966 issues, of which I have very few, as that's when the big slot car craze was. I got my Aurora set for Christmas of 1964.
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I did do a google search for "Atlas HO Motoring" as that's what Atlas named their series, but didn't see anything mounted on the pink style card. Most of the stuff was in blue and yellow boxes, similar to Aurora. Oddly enough, I did see a track section mounted on a card with the typical N scale colors - kind of the off orange color at the top and the rest yellow.
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Doug
In a message dated 9/29/2022 12:32:32 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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I'm pretty sure that in my perusal of the Model Railroader Magazine DVD that there were ads for Atlas HO Scale Racing Sets.? Now, if I can remember the issues in which they appeared...
If it wasn't that long before A1G then it's entirely possible that there were leftover Auto Racing cards, as we've seen.
--George
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Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
I'm pretty sure that in my perusal of the Model Railroader Magazine DVD that there were ads for Atlas HO Scale Racing Sets.? Now, if I can remember the issues in which they appeared...
If it wasn't that long before A1G then it's entirely possible that there were leftover Auto Racing cards, as we've seen.
--George
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Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
I hadn't thought of these cards originally being intended only for their HO slot cars and just put the car on there because they were the big deal, at the time, but you could be right. The cards could be bubbled with anything that would fit on them.
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I almost exclusively had Aurora Thunderjet 500 stuff so I don't remember, at all, seeing Atlas bubble pack slot car stuff.
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Doug
In a message dated 9/27/2022 8:39:26 PM Central Standard Time, greatamericantrains@... writes:
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Use it up, wear it out... good reuse of older packaging materials I suppose. I wonder what racing?accessory this card was originally intended for?
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Like Doug I may have seen these at our local hobby shop, but any real memory has faded from view.
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Kevin Blair
Chanute, KS
I have been aware of the pink card package but have never seen one in person, that I know of, anyway. I may have seen them hanging in a hobby shop and just don't remember. Atlas had HO in that package, too, but it must have been as or almost as short-lived as the HO slot cars. I also think it was the only time N and HO shared a common packaging scheme.
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Also, it is very important, at least to any A1G fan. \:*)
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Doug
In a message dated 9/27/2022 10:54:20 AM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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Well, this is likely to be the least important thing you'll see today... Atlas track has been packaged in several different ways, including during the A1G time period.? A version I either haven't seen or haven't seen in a long time recently appeared on eBay.? It was conveniently offered with a more common version of packaging. Note the racing car with the Atlas trademark!? This harkens back to the days when Atlas made a short-lived foray into slot cars.? Only the HO Scale "Refreshment Stand" remains from that product line. Here's the image-- no affiliation with the seller. Cheers, George (your list-owner) 
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Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
Use it up, wear it out... good reuse of older packaging materials I suppose. I wonder what racing?accessory this card was originally intended for?
Like Doug I may have seen these at our local hobby shop, but any real memory has faded from view.
Kevin Blair Chanute, KS
I have been aware of the pink card package but have never seen one in person, that I know of, anyway. I may have seen them hanging in a hobby shop and just don't remember. Atlas had HO in that package, too, but it must have been as or almost as short-lived as the HO slot cars. I also think it was the only time N and HO shared a common packaging scheme.
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Also, it is very important, at least to any A1G fan. \:*)
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Doug
In a message dated 9/27/2022 10:54:20 AM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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Well, this is likely to be the least important thing you'll see today... Atlas track has been packaged in several different ways, including during the A1G time period.? A version I either haven't seen or haven't seen in a long time recently appeared on eBay.? It was conveniently offered with a more common version of packaging. Note the racing car with the Atlas trademark!? This harkens back to the days when Atlas made a short-lived foray into slot cars.? Only the HO Scale "Refreshment Stand" remains from that product line. Here's the image-- no affiliation with the seller. Cheers, George (your list-owner) 
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Re: Fun With Packaging, Track Department
I have been aware of the pink card package but have never seen one in person, that I know of, anyway. I may have seen them hanging in a hobby shop and just don't remember. Atlas had HO in that package, too, but it must have been as or almost as short-lived as the HO slot cars. I also think it was the only time N and HO shared a common packaging scheme.
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Also, it is very important, at least to any A1G fan. \:*)
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Doug
In a message dated 9/27/2022 10:54:20 AM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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Well, this is likely to be the least important thing you'll see today... Atlas track has been packaged in several different ways, including during the A1G time period.? A version I either haven't seen or haven't seen in a long time recently appeared on eBay.? It was conveniently offered with a more common version of packaging. Note the racing car with the Atlas trademark!? This harkens back to the days when Atlas made a short-lived foray into slot cars.? Only the HO Scale "Refreshment Stand" remains from that product line. Here's the image-- no affiliation with the seller. Cheers, George (your list-owner) 
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Fun With Packaging, Track Department
Well, this is likely to be the least important thing you'll see today... Atlas track has been packaged in several different ways, including during the A1G time period.? A version I either haven't seen or haven't seen in a long time recently appeared on eBay.? It was conveniently offered with a more common version of packaging. Note the racing car with the Atlas trademark!? This harkens back to the days when Atlas made a short-lived foray into slot cars.? Only the HO Scale "Refreshment Stand" remains from that product line. Here's the image-- no affiliation with the seller. Cheers, George (your list-owner) 
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Re: History of Atlas N Advertising #1 - July 1967
I was in Nichol's Hobby Shop here, in the summer of 1967 and I don't even remember what for, unless it was just one of those times when it felt like I should stop in there and look around because...you know. I was still running Treble-O-Lectric trains then so it probably had to do with trains even though Max Nichol didn't have any Lone Star stuff.
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Anyway, I, of course, checked out all the stuff in the glass cases and there it was! The display of the first Atlas freight cars! I can still feel the excitement! Which one to buy. Which one to buy! I only had enough money for one. I finally settled on the Norfolk Southern composite gondola. I guess because I thought it was the most interesting of the ones there.
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I got it home and was absolutely amazed at how much smoother and easier it rolled compared my Treble-O-Lectric cars. It wasn't long before I bought a few more cars - the Blatz, the National Dairy Dispatch, the Shell tanker, etc. And by November, I had a Santa Fe E8. Wonderful times!
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Doug
In a message dated 9/12/2022 7:01:04 PM Central Standard Time, guitarrick_c1812@... writes:
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I remember that time period.
? ? Our local hobby shop just ( Vail's Hobbies ) just open a new store in our newly built Marquette Mall in Michigan City, Indiana. In the glass case on the top shelf where the HO locos were displayed was a photo taken at the Toy Fair show on the east coast of a piece of N scale equipment with a quarter laid next to it to give the impression of its size. Remember my friend Bobby Cusick & I marveling at the photo and couldn't believe the size of the train piece we were looking at ! Within the following year the first Atlas N Scale train sets started showing up. Never knew at the time we were looking st something that would have a great impact on the hobby..........?
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 4:23 PM, G.J. Irwin
<groups@...> wrote:
Group, I've been very, very slowly making my way through the back issues of Model Railroader (starting with the first issue-- I have the "75 Years" DVD and Railroad Model Craftsman (from January 1968) making note of the various N Scale features and advertising.?? Keeping to the topic of this group, here is the modest but very first mention of A1G in an Atlas advertisement, from July 1967.? The main subject of this ad is HO Scale track, but down in the right hand corner, what do we have... Coming Soon, Watch for Atlas "N Gauge" Model Railroading, with a photo of a steam locomotive.? Just a hint of what's to come... Now, let's see if I can keep the post numbering consecutive... Cheers, George (your list owner) 
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Re: History of Atlas N Advertising #1 - July 1967
That's the earliest Atlas N scale ad I have ever seen, too, in MR, anyway.
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Doug
In a message dated 9/12/2022 6:23:21 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
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Group, I've been very, very slowly making my way through the back issues of Model Railroader (starting with the first issue-- I have the "75 Years" DVD and Railroad Model Craftsman (from January 1968) making note of the various N Scale features and advertising.?? Keeping to the topic of this group, here is the modest but very first mention of A1G in an Atlas advertisement, from July 1967.? The main subject of this ad is HO Scale track, but down in the right hand corner, what do we have... Coming Soon, Watch for Atlas "N Gauge" Model Railroading, with a photo of a steam locomotive.? Just a hint of what's to come... Now, let's see if I can keep the post numbering consecutive... Cheers, George (your list owner) 
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Re: History of Atlas N Advertising #1 - July 1967
I remember that time period. ? ? Our local hobby shop just ( Vail's Hobbies ) just open a new store in our newly built Marquette Mall in Michigan City, Indiana. In the glass case on the top shelf where the HO locos were displayed was a photo taken at the Toy Fair show on the east coast of a piece of N scale equipment with a quarter laid next to it to give the impression of its size. Remember my friend Bobby Cusick & I marveling at the photo and couldn't believe the size of the train piece we were looking at ! Within the following year the first Atlas N Scale train sets started showing up. Never knew at the time we were looking st something that would have a great impact on the hobby..........?
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 4:23 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote: Group, I've been very, very slowly making my way through the back issues of Model Railroader (starting with the first issue-- I have the "75 Years" DVD and Railroad Model Craftsman (from January 1968) making note of the various N Scale features and advertising.?? Keeping to the topic of this group, here is the modest but very first mention of A1G in an Atlas advertisement, from July 1967.? The main subject of this ad is HO Scale track, but down in the right hand corner, what do we have... Coming Soon, Watch for Atlas "N Gauge" Model Railroading, with a photo of a steam locomotive.? Just a hint of what's to come... Now, let's see if I can keep the post numbering consecutive... Cheers, George (your list owner) 
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History of Atlas N Advertising #1 - July 1967
Group, I've been very, very slowly making my way through the back issues of Model Railroader (starting with the first issue-- I have the "75 Years" DVD and Railroad Model Craftsman (from January 1968) making note of the various N Scale features and advertising.?? Keeping to the topic of this group, here is the modest but very first mention of A1G in an Atlas advertisement, from July 1967.? The main subject of this ad is HO Scale track, but down in the right hand corner, what do we have... Coming Soon, Watch for Atlas "N Gauge" Model Railroading, with a photo of a steam locomotive.? Just a hint of what's to come... Now, let's see if I can keep the post numbering consecutive... Cheers, George (your list owner) 
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
In case the softening of the plastic is caused by oil
contamination,? soak the wheels overnight in Isopropyl alcohol,
then a good brush with an old toothbrush,? a final flush and dry
well before applying the glue
Davinia
On 12/09/2022 12:51 pm, Douglas Gosha
via groups.io wrote:
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I would try to find
replacement drivers on eBay, either from a seller selling
Atlas steamer parts or buy a parts unit with the drivers
intact. If your drivers have actually gotten soft, which would
be caused by some substance that attacked them,like a non
plastic safe lubricant or solvent, gluing them probably won't
work permanently.
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Doug
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Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:48 AM Big Dan < drums147@...>
wrote:
Greetings all!
I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am
attempting to resurrect.
Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers
are made of a dark gray material and are
rather "soft".
They are so soft I fear they will not
stay in gauge once the unit is
reassembled.
Can anyone shed any light on this
matter?
Are they supposed to be soft like this
. . . if not, is there a cure?
I know this is a long shot, but are
there replacement drivers available or
does anyone have a set of drivers they
would sell or "loan"?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
I would try to find replacement drivers on eBay, either from a seller selling Atlas steamer parts or buy a parts unit with the drivers intact. If your drivers have actually gotten soft, which would be caused by some substance that attacked them,like a non plastic safe lubricant or solvent, gluing them probably won't work permanently.
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Doug
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:48 AM Big Dan < drums147@...> wrote:
Greetings all!
I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to resurrect.
Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a dark gray material and are rather "soft".
They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge once the unit is reassembled.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is there a cure?
I know this is a long shot, but are there replacement drivers available or does anyone have a set of drivers they would sell or "loan"?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
Thanks. My wife has UV glue and a light . . . I'll try it. Dan
What you need is UV glue, just paint it on the plastic parts use
a UV light for 10 seconds and bingo, hard plastic. It's also great
if the hole for the driver rod retainers are slogged out, just
fill the hole use the light then redrill the holes.
Davinia, down in the Antipodes
On 9/09/2022 4:14 pm, Nad117 wrote:
I never said I had Zamac drivers . . .
someone else said that . . . and I may not be an expert, but I
am not stupid.
I know what a Atlas/Rivarossi steamer is . . . .
My drivers are plastic material and THEY ARE
deteriorating in the manner I described.
Dan
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:48
AM Big Dan < drums147@...>
wrote:
Greetings all!
I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to
resurrect.
Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a
dark gray material and are rather "soft".
They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge
once the unit is reassembled.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is
there a cure?
I know this is a long shot, but are there replacement
drivers available or does anyone have a set of drivers
they would sell or "loan"?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
What you need is UV glue, just paint it on the plastic parts use
a UV light for 10 seconds and bingo, hard plastic. It's also great
if the hole for the driver rod retainers are slogged out, just
fill the hole use the light then redrill the holes.
Davinia, down in the Antipodes
On 9/09/2022 4:14 pm, Nad117 wrote:
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I never said I had Zamac drivers . . .
someone else said that . . . and I may not be an expert, but I
am not stupid.
I know what a Atlas/Rivarossi steamer is . . . .
My drivers are plastic material and THEY ARE
deteriorating in the manner I described.
Dan
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:48
AM Big Dan < drums147@...>
wrote:
Greetings all!
I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to
resurrect.
Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a
dark gray material and are rather "soft".
They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge
once the unit is reassembled.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is
there a cure?
I know this is a long shot, but are there replacement
drivers available or does anyone have a set of drivers
they would sell or "loan"?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
I never said I had
Zamac drivers . . . someone else said that . . . and I may not be an expert, but I am not stupid. I know what a
Atlas/Rivarossi steamer is . . . .
My drivers are plastic material and THEY ARE deteriorating in the manner I described.
Dan
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 1:48 AM Big Dan < drums147@...> wrote:
Greetings all! I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to resurrect. Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a dark gray material and are rather "soft". They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge once the unit is reassembled. Can anyone shed any light on this matter? Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is there a cure? I
know this is a long shot, but are there replacement drivers available
or does anyone have a set of drivers they would sell or "loan"? Thanks in advance. Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
Hi Dan, OK, I do have an Atlas Pacific and can confirm drivers are plastic with metal rim. I thought this was a leftover from another project, but unfortunately it IS a project I put away about 5 years ago and forgot to come back to. The loco now has a NWSL can motor and improved pickup on the tender, but still needs paint and details. I’m sorry, I thought I could help, but alas this engine still needs its drivers. Cheers,
Martin? Sent from a mobile device, may contain typos
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On Aug 12, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Douglas Gosha via groups.io <dgosha@...> wrote:
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The drivers on the Atlas Pacific are made of an engineering-type plastic/Delrin with nickel silver rims and can't deteriorate in a manner described. If you have a steamer with Zamac drivers, it is not an Atlas/Rivarossi steamer.
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Doug
In a message dated 8/12/2022 10:18:10 AM Central Standard Time, mikebgloss@... writes:
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From previous correspondence on this site it appears that the metal the drivers were made from consists of some dubious lead/?zinc/ ? alloy which will eventually disintegrate. Its fatal!.
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You're better off replacing them with some english made drivers eg Romford or North West lines? sic
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Mike
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:27 AM Nad117 < drums147@...> wrote:
Greetings all!
I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to resurrect.
Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a dark gray material and are rather "soft".
They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge once the unit is reassembled.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is there a cure?
I know this is a long shot, but are there replacement drivers available or does anyone have a set of drivers they would sell or "loan"?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
The drivers on the Atlas Pacific are made of an engineering-type plastic/Delrin with nickel silver rims and can't deteriorate in a manner described. If you have a steamer with Zamac drivers, it is not an Atlas/Rivarossi steamer.
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Doug
In a message dated 8/12/2022 10:18:10 AM Central Standard Time, mikebgloss@... writes:
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From previous correspondence on this site it appears that the metal the drivers were made from consists of some dubious lead/?zinc/ ? alloy which will eventually disintegrate. Its fatal!.
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You're better off replacing them with some english made drivers eg Romford or North West lines? sic
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Mike
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:27 AM Nad117 < drums147@...> wrote:
Greetings all!
I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to resurrect.
Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a dark gray material and are rather "soft".
They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge once the unit is reassembled.
Can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is there a cure?
I know this is a long shot, but are there replacement drivers available or does anyone have a set of drivers they would sell or "loan"?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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Re: AIG Pacific - Soft Drivers
From previous correspondence on this site it appears that the metal the drivers were made from consists of some dubious lead/?zinc/ ? alloy which will eventually disintegrate. Its fatal!.
You're better off replacing them with some english made drivers eg Romford or North West lines? sic
Mike
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 6:27 AM Nad117 < drums147@...> wrote:
Greetings all! I have an Atlas 1G Pacific I am attempting to resurrect. Upon disassembly, I notice the drivers are made of a dark gray material and are rather "soft". They are so soft I fear they will not stay in gauge once the unit is reassembled. Can anyone shed any light on this matter? Are they supposed to be soft like this . . . if not, is there a cure? I
know this is a long shot, but are there replacement drivers available
or does anyone have a set of drivers they would sell or "loan"? Thanks in advance. Dan
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Kevin Blair
guitarrick_c1812