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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
PATRICK MASON
FRED,
The cellular companies years ago convinced the FCC and the Federal Government to make the privacy act law. Unfortunatley you are correct. If you build your "homebrew" and it can receive cellular, or any other transmissions protected by the Act. Yup we would be in violation. That is why it took many years for the digital scanners to become REALITY.
Uniden had to prove the digital scanners did not violate the privacy act.
Pat
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Re: RT Systems FT-60 Software Opinions?
开云体育Thanks Clint, s1moller, and Fred for your
feedback.
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Fred, I haven't ordered the RT software yet. I
wanted to see how satisfied the current users are. I realize that,?with the
FT-60 being newly released, any software issued now may need
some?tinkering-with in the future.
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It appears, from a scan of the reviews on eHam,
that, in general,?ADMS software seems to generate strong opinions. Some
users clearly dislike it and others think it's great--not much middle ground, it
seems.
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Thanks for the responses!
73,
Mark, ?W1ARW
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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
At 08:00 PM 11/4/2004, you wrote:
But I wonder what would have happen when I was 6 years old and my dadThe activity (listening to cellular conversations) prohibited by the statute is a "crime of specific intent". That is, you must intend to tune and listen to the conversation; not just accidently find it as a result of your dabbling in electronic projects. Now, if you discover the transmission and keep the device to listen to future calls ... or build one whenever you feel like listening, that is a violation of the law. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milepost 11 - UPRR Jeff City Sub - N 38°34'53", W 90°22'32", 680' "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" |
Re: Hole in 900Mhz
开云体育Patrick, It has always been my understanding that it is illegal to reveal what you monitor to a third party.? But are you telling me, that if I was an experimenter, and I built a homebrew radio that received cellular transmissions it is illegal!?? I believe you, because I just read a portion of the Electronics Communications Privacy Act. ? But I wonder what would have happen when I was 6 years old and my dad said, “Fred, how would you like to build a crystal radio”?, and …..? So I guess if I don’t that with my kids I better be very careful.? I mean, if I wind the wrong number of turns on that toilet paper form, they may be visiting me upstate.? It certainly sounds like something is wrong with that scenario. ? Is it any wonder why this hobby is dying? ? 73 de KE2QR ? Fred Jacobowitz _._.? _ _ ._???? _..? .??? _._? .? .._ _ _?? _ _._?? ._. KE2QR
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? ? From: PATRICK MASON
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:00 AM To: FT-60@... Subject: RE: [FT-60] Re: Hole in 900Mhz ? FRED, The legal issues are very real. It is in violation of the Federal wireless privacy act to intercept (receive) any cellular transmissions analog or digital signals, period. It is also against the law to manufacturer equipment that is "easily modified" to do this as well. Another FCC rule says it is illegal to reveal what you monitor on your radios to a third party. Pat Mason Chief Communications
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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
Joshua Miller
Remember that there are still a lot of analog cell towers in use, and even more cell phones that still have analog capabilities. Therefore you are still able to hear those people that are using the analog side (especially in less populated areas) and/or in areas where there's so many people using the towers that some peoples phone switch (roam) to the analog side so that the call can still be made.
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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
Larry B
FYI,
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I guess the law needs to be changed at some point in time!
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That will happen when the receivers will be able to detect digital LOL
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Until then Happy monitoring!
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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
开云体育Larry, ? Good point about the phones being digital – so you have to wonder why they are cellular (frequency) blocked!? That’s legislation for you. ? 73 de KE2QR ? Fred Jacobowitz _._.? _ _ ._???? _..? .??? _._? .? .._ _ _?? _ _._?? ._. KE2QR
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Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:03 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: RE: [FT-60] Re: Hole in 900Mhz ? Hello All, ? Just an FYI, ? Most ALL cell phone systems today are digital in nature so monitoring with a conventional radio will not work so I would not even be concerned about this any longer. ? Most if not all Cell phones manufactured today are digital in nature! It is good though that the FT-60 works in this band as I am sure there are other services which will end up there at some point in time. ? ? ?
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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
Larry B
Hello All,
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Just an FYI,
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Most ALL cell phone systems today are digital in nature so monitoring with a conventional radio will not work so I would not even be concerned about this any longer.
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Most if not all Cell phones manufactured today are digital in nature!
It is good though that the FT-60 works in this band as I am sure there are other services which will end up there at some point in time.
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Ed Muro wrote: ECPA (Electronics Communications Privacy Act) and some legislation that
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Re: Hole in 900Mhz
Ed Muro
ECPA (Electronics Communications Privacy Act) and some legislation that followed a few years later makes it illegal to monitor cell phone conversations.
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73 Eddie Muro- Amateur Radio Station K2EPM Long Island, New York LIMARC Vice-President www.limarc.org ----Original Message Follows---- From: ke2qr@... Reply-To: FT-60@... To: FT-60@... Subject: RE: [FT-60] Re: Hole in 900Mhz Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:41:16 -0500 Ah, so for the techno savy out there, lets take a break from putting down this radio and lets come up with a strategy for plugging the hole! What are the legal issues concerning monitoring the cell frequencies. Certainly, you can't disclose to third parties, but I don't think anybody can stop you from listening. The fathers' of the constitution may not of had this (radio) in mind but I think it is ok. 73 de KE2QR Fred Jacobowitz _._. _ _ ._ _.. . _._ . .._ _ _ _ _._ ._. THE MORSE CODE:When you rearrange the letters:HERE COME DOTS Instant Messenger: KE2QR -----Original Message----- |
Re: Hole in 900Mhz
PATRICK MASON
FRED,
The legal issues are very real. It is in violation of the Federal wireless privacy act to intercept (receive) any cellular transmissions analog or digital signals, period. It is also against the law to manufacturer equipment that is "easily modified" to do this as well.
Another FCC rule says it is illegal to reveal what you monitor on your radios to a third party.
Pat Mason
Chief Communications
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Re: RT Systems FT-60 Software Opinions?
开云体育Mark, I have you received the RT software yet?? I am waiting for the final release as I participated in the beta.? I also have a FT-7800r and use the RT software with that. ?So I thought it would be easier to stick with one vendor.? I actually gave them some feedback that they incorporated so that the two exchange data a bit easier and I had another suggestion concerning the Banks that I hope they will implement. ? I haven’t had the opportunity to play with the FT-60 commander.? The reason being, if I really need to do anything special I prefer to export my list from the program, fix it up in excel or write a script and then import it back into the cloning software.? So, as long as I can import and export from RT I am happy.? If I come up with some good macros I will post them on the site. ? 73 de KE2QR ? Fred Jacobowitz _._.? _ _ ._???? _..? .??? _._? .? .._ _ _?? _ _._?? ._. KE2QR
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:36 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] RT Systems FT-60 Software Opinions? ? Greetings, ? Seeking feedback/comments from any FT-60 users who have purchased and are using RT Systems' ADMS-1J software for the FT-60. ? How does it fare in a comparison with FT-60 Commander? ? Tnx, Mark, W1ARW
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Re: RT Systems FT-60 Software Opinions?
Clint Bradford
ADMS-1J is working fine for me. I have programmed about 300 channels...using RT Systems' ADMS-1J software for the FT-60... into modified and non-modified units with no problems. I believe Jim's product is still "growing" - there were a couple...How does it fare in a comparison with FT-60 Commander? problems with using it on modified HTs. But, knowing Jim, he will refine it until perfect! Clint Bradford |
Re: Hole in 900Mhz
Ah, so for the techno savy out there, lets take a break from putting down
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this radio and lets come up with a strategy for plugging the hole! What are the legal issues concerning monitoring the cell frequencies. Certainly, you can't disclose to third parties, but I don't think anybody can stop you from listening. The fathers' of the constitution may not of had this (radio) in mind but I think it is ok. 73 de KE2QR Fred Jacobowitz _._. _ _ ._ _.. . _._ . .._ _ _ _ _._ ._. THE MORSE CODE:When you rearrange the letters:HERE COME DOTS Instant Messenger: KE2QR -----Original Message----- |
FT60 Adms software
s1moller
Used the software for first time to transfer some memories to a new
ft60. Memories transferred ok, but when I switched to VFO and manually entered a repeater frequency, the shift frequency was not able to be viewed upon pressing the rev button (although the negative shift icon was there and flashing). Additionally, when pushing the ptt the radio stayed on the receive frequency. Checked all menus items, auto repeater shift, split etc. and they seemed properly set in the software and in the radio. Any thoughts? |
RT Systems FT-60 Software Opinions?
开云体育Greetings,
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Seeking feedback/comments from any FT-60 users who
have purchased and are using RT Systems' ADMS-1J software for the FT-60.
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How does it fare in a comparison with FT-60
Commander?
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Tnx,
Mark, W1ARW |
Re: headphone question, and Adapter suggestion
Bill Pirtle
--- In FT-60@..., "Ed Muro" <k2epm@h...> wrote:
Does the FT-60 use the same speaker mic as the FT-50, VX-5, and VX-150?For what it's worth, I have the vx150, ft60R and the VX2R, the ear-bud microphone that I bought for the VX2r, model MH37, works fine with the vx150 and FT60. I'm guessing, but I'd think the speaker mic should be inter-changeable between the radios as well. --Bill |
Re: headphone question, and Adapter suggestion
Ed,
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A young ham came to the last meeting with a vx-5 and the speaker mic. I should have grabbed it and tried it. He likes it because he said the speaker on the vx-5 is small and this gave him plenty of audio. Maybe he will come to the next meeting. Forgot his name. He recently got his license and his mom brought him to the meeting. 73 de KE2QR Fred Jacobowitz _._. _ _ ._ _.. . _._ . .._ _ _ _ _._ ._. THE MORSE CODE:When you rearrange the letters:HERE COME DOTS Instant Messenger: KE2QR -----Original Message----- |