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Measure test prints with digital camera 6
I've been reading about using QTR to make a DN for darkroom prints (silver gelatin). After making the test print (or step wedge), it appears that a flatbed scanner can be used to scan the print and measure the resulting digital file with Photoshop. We don't have access to a proper densitometer or other spectrometer devices. Has anyone tried using a digital camera (DSLR or mirrorless) to take a picture of the test print and measure the file in PS? As long as there is a maximum black patch and white patch, it seems these act as an internal standard for the image file. This could be used to compensate for exposure and lighting. I'm sure someone has done this before - I just can't find any mention of this. Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks, RC Wieboldt
Started by PhotoMidwest Print Lab @ · Most recent @
Print Stopping After an Inch or So
Hello, I¡¯m relatively new to QTR ¡ª I¡¯ve been using it for a little over a month ¡ª and I¡¯ve run into a strange issue. I¡¯m printing on an Epson P7000, and today, whenever I send a job to the printer, it starts printing but stops after about an inch. The status then changes to ¡°waiting,¡± and the job never resumes. I¡¯ve waited it out for over 30 minutes, but nothing changes. I¡¯ve already tried restarting both my Mac and the printer, reinstalling QTR, and rerunning the install command for the P7000. Unfortunately, the issue persists ¡ª the print still stops after the first inch or so. I tested printing through the standard Epson driver using Print Tool, and that worked just fine. So it really seems like the issue is isolated to QTR communicating with the printer. Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions for how to fix it? Thanks, Tim Fitzpatrick
Started by Tim Fitzpatrick @
Need help with separate Mac for printing DN only 7
Hello hive mind. I¡¯m trying to avoid the issues with printing digital negatives on an Epson 3880 and Mac OS updates on my MacBook Pro.I have to update the MacBook Pro OS (for other reasons) and am looking to get a mac mini M4 (16Gb 10 core) just for printing so I don¡¯t have to update the OS. I¡¯m trying to wrap my brain around how that would work- somehow getting PrintTool and photoshop on the Mini without internet. Or do I update the OS and internet- download, then go back to a previous version of OS and disable internet? I figured I¡¯d put the photos on a thumb drive from the MacBook to print on the mini. Any details or workflows you have mastered would be appreciated. I print digital negatives (for pt/pd, gum bichromate, cyanotype, etc.) and hope to venture into Photogravure. I use Print Tool, QCDN/QTR, Photoshop, Lightroom, FYI.
Started by jess g @ · Most recent @
QTR ON EPSON Ecotanks L8180 3
Hello!! I was wondering if anyone has experience installing QTR on Epson Ecotank printers. I¡¯ve read in other posts that for the L1800 model, it¡¯s possible to use the profile of the 1400/1430. Has anyone tested it with the L8180 (8550)? Would it be possible to use another profile or make some kind of adaptation to make it work with this model? Best regards,
Started by Vinicius Brum @ · Most recent @
Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024 46
I've got my Epson 7800 running matte black ink in refillable carts. I've experimented with a couple different ink sets, with and without LC/LM toner carts to neutralize the warmth of the carbon ink. I'd like to take advantage of all 8 channels, and looks like Paul Roark is now recommending NOT using the 2% ink dilution anymore. Is anyone running a similar combination of Matte Black ink across all eight channels? What are your ink dilutions? Here's an example of what I'm thinking of testing, but not sure what to put in the 8th? 100 80 60 30 18 09 06 I'm thinking of giving the following a try. 100 85 70 55 40 25 10 5 dilution base is Pauls Carbon-6.
Started by Jeff Kew @ · Most recent @
qtr and mac o/s sequoia 5
anyone know if qtr 2.8.2 supports mac o/s sequoia on the m series mac processors? that o/s is not listed in the description on the qtr website. I am getting terrible prints from it is why I ask (with epson p900)
Started by Mike @ · Most recent @
One more potential tip for the P5370 3
If anyone has worked with the P5370 and it keeps showing the error message ¡°paper not detected,¡± this week I tried taping one edge with opaque tape, worked but not always, drawing sharpie pen lines along the bottom and side edge (in both instances assuming it is an OPTICAL issue detecting the paper) also worked but not always. Well yesterday teaching a digital negatives workshop one of my students offhandedly mentioned that she pushes down on the top edge of the OHP as it is being detected, essentially putting a bit more weight or pressure on the bottom edge, and it solved the problem. It actually worked consistently. They had figured it was a weight issue, not an optical issue. Don¡¯t have any proof of this but thought I¡¯d share anyway because that ding ding ding error light and message is really annoying especially in a class of 16. Note that all my other printers I have used, 1900, 2200, 2400, 3800, 3880, P700, P800, P900 have never displayed this tendency to not detect the paper, but the P5370 is the most I would say ¡°pro¡± printer of all of these. Chris
Started by Christina Z. Anderson @ · Most recent @
p5370 quad files 6
I¡¯ve printed both classic and new cyanotype with the P900 profiles printed with the P5370 and they work as expected so as far as I am concerned I can extrapolate from those two processes that I have no need to create modified profiles from the ones I created for the P900. Chris
Started by Christina Z. Anderson @ · Most recent @
is epson sc p9500 supported by Quadtone RIP?
Hi, is it possible to used epson sc p9500 with qtr? thanks in advance Marek -- Ta wiadomo?? e-mail zosta?a sprawdzona pod k?tem wirus¨®w przez oprogramowanie antywirusowe AVG. www.avg.com
Started by Marek Weso?owski @
Average a measurement with an i1 Question 6
For anyone who is using the Xrite i1 for measuring targets, or Chris. I was reviewing Chris's(your) great instructions for QCDN. I like these because they are written using numbered steps (thank you!), which my brain prefers. The instructions mention to measure a target three times with an average, and send to the Data Tool (I only just began using this.) My question is how does one "read three times" and then "average". If I read each row of the target, multiple times, does it simply override the last measurement, or does it somehow average the reading? Any guidance on achieving the average via multiple readings of the target would be helpful. I typically measure the target once, but I am interested in attempting to work with an average to see if it yields a better result. Thanks, DM
Started by DM Witman @ · Most recent @
QTR-CurveView
QTR-CurveView is not opening the P900 profiles with 10 inks. Basically nothing happens. And suddenly it is not opening any profiles.
Started by Alan Vlach @
21-step crashing qcdn 7
Greetings :) I am running a 21 step target and when I attempt to open in QCDN linearize app, it crashes the system-every time. I want to use this as measurement because I actually looks pretty good. I seem to recall others posting about this ages ago. Searched the group posts but it doesn¡¯t come up in the search. Any ideas? specifics: i3pro, QCDN, 21 step target macmini m1 os- sequoia 15.x
Started by DM Witman @ · Most recent @
Epson Stylus 2200 2
I have an old Epson Stylus2200 and used it years ago for printing digital negs. Haven't used it in at leat 7-8 years. I bought some expired ink and cannot get anything near a print-just some light color, no B&W coming through at all. Laughingly, it is recognized and shows as having full ink cartridges. I expect the problem is the nozzles/print head, but the question I have is whether to get it fixed, or just toss it. I have a Canon PIXMA Pro100 that I use for printing, but wanted to get back into alternatyive photography, hence breaking out the R2200 from the shelf. Any recommendations greatly appreciated.
Started by HoustonYank @ · Most recent @
Epson p800 Drying time per head pass control on Windows 3
Hi, Ink is not drying fast enough while i am printing on a photopolymer plate. I use Epson sc P800 and Quadtone application on Windows 11. Extending Drying time per head pass would help but I do not know how to change it with quadtone. It is possible to change that in Epson driver but I cannot do it with QTR Please help. Marek
Started by Marek Weso?owski @ · Most recent @
Epson P5370 23
We¡¯ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images.. No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370. Op sys attached. Error message attached. I¡¯ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work. I¡¯ve re-installed QTR 3x. I¡¯ve turned on and off printer. I¡¯ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads. Any ideas? Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M¡­hope that is not an issue. Chris
Started by Christina Z. Anderson @ · Most recent @
QTR-Create-ICC-RGB.exe 6
I use QTR-Create-ICC-RGB.exe to create icc's for soft proofing my alt process prints, and have been doing so for many years. After I do a calibration, I make a calibrated negative with a step table that goes from 0 to 255 in steps of 5 RGB units (0, 5, 10, ... 255). I measure the print with a Spyder and then drag the Spyder output file onto the QTR-Create-ICC-RGB.exe, which creates the icc profile. This has always worked and has given me very reliable soft proofs for cyanotype, vandyke, and kallitype. Today, I printed a color step table, not with a digital negative, but rather with my inkjet printer. I wanted to see if I could make an icc profile that I could use to simulate printing color separations. I measured the print with my Spyder and dragged the Spyder output file onto QTR-Create-ICC-RGB.exe. The QTR-Create output file shows that the L values linear, but the A and B values are all zero! What am I doing wrong?
Started by John Isner @ · Most recent @
Setting up P900 for Direct to Plate methods using QTR 6
Another PSA. I have wrestled with helping people set up their P900s for DTP use over the last couple of years. I think I have finally figured out a pretty solid workflow for getting this done. It has a number of steps, and is documented here: DTP with P900 and QTR
Started by Clay Harmon @ · Most recent @
P800 - Only Black Inks Laying Down 9
Hello, Hoping for some insight/suggestions. This is in a school lab setting. Working with Print Tool and a P800 on a Mac Mini M1. IT forced another update, now to Sequioia 15.3.1. This resulted in the QTP800 printer no long showing up as an available printer. I uninstalled the P800 driver and Print Tool, and reinstalled. This was successful in terms of the printer being available. I reinstalled all of the quad files, and I remade the presets. All seemed fine. When printing digi negs, now the printer is only laying down black inks. I checked the quad files and those look as they should with some color inks. I restarted the machine again and all of the apps. No change, only laying down black inks. Any suggestions? (Besides telling IT to stop updating OS in the middle of the term.) Thanks, DM
Started by DM Witman @ · Most recent @
Offtopic: Question on QuadToneProfiler_QuickCurve-DN ver 3+ by Richard Boutwell 5
If anyone out there is using the newest version of QuadToneProfiler-QuickCurve DN (version 3.1.3) by Richard Boutwell? I am wondering exactly where you are supposed to enter the Blocking Density from the blocking density test. His instructions gloss over specifics. In my case I can up with a blocking density of 35 (see attached screen capture). I am applying the Blocking Density number by manipulating the "Total Ink Load" slider on the Starter Curve Setup page as on the attached screenshot. This worked for me, but I am not precisely sure if this was the planned use. Another individual told me to use 100-(Blocking Density) as goal for the "Maximum Black Percentage" which threw me way off course. Robert Hartung Bettendorf, IA USA RobertHartungPhoto.com https://rwhart3675.myportfolio.com
Started by Bob Hartung @ · Most recent @
UltraChrome ink and printers 4
They don't sell the original ink for my Epson R2880 anymore. And I've checked the Epson website for printers that use UltraChrome ink, but they don't sell them anymore in The Netherlands. Does anyone else has this problem to? And what is the solution?
Started by Kim @ · Most recent @
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