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Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024
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I've got my Epson 7800 running matte black ink in refillable carts. I've experimented with a couple different ink sets, with and without LC/LM toner carts to neutralize the warmth of the carbon ink. 100 ? |
开云体育If I were you I’d use whatever I wanted to. Doing my own linearization it should all work out. If it were me, I would want one toner position that I could use depending on what I was trying to do so I could pull the warmth more cold if needed. It gives me some flexibility. I would venture to guess one could calculate a perfect set of ink percentages, but I would also venture to guess that wouldn’t be ideal for every image you’d print. I would venture to again guess this is all subjective. Sorta like Ford vs Chevy. They both sometimes make crap, sometimes make good things, and generally one would be just fine with either. It’s an opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. Everyone has one, just like everyone has an {fill in the blank}. How’s that for a non-answer? ;-) Blayne Puklich Minneapolis, MN PGP Key ID: 0xC52CA6C1
On 29 Jan 2024, at 16:48, Jeff Kew wrote:
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开云体育80% carbon is going to be very very close to 100%. You have a lot of dots printing in the shadows so you can afford to go to 70% on shade 2 and then bring the others closer especially in the middle and upper-middle (important tonal areas).best -Walker
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IMO Don’t dilute the Mk. Use a gloss ink like Hd Pk for the dilutions. Or just go with piezo because it’s properly filtered and encapsulated . . .? Walker On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:25 PM Jeff Kew <jeff@...> wrote: Thanks Walker, appreciate the tip. Didn’t want to waste the UltraHD MB ink I have. So any tips like that are very helpful! |
开云体育PK can be used on any paper. MK, not so good on glossy. Dilutions use less ink, so if you use PK for that you'll have an inkset that you can use for any kind of paper if you have 100% PK and 100% MK positions in your printer with your custom dilutions. Super flexible because you can print on any paper finish. MK should also get you a denser black which would be more desirable instead of using PK for everything. That's roughly what I do but I include that toner I was talking about to shift the tone blue. Blayne Puklich Minneapolis, MN PGP Key ID: 0xC52CA6C1
On 30 Jan 2024, at 16:49, Jeff Kew wrote:
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This is the carbon approach I've used for years now: The dual MK in this inkset is only for Arches watercolor paper, which, frankly, I have not used in a long time.?? That said, the image on my wall? --? ? --? ?is a100% carbon, neutral-appearing print on Arches that will outlive us by multiples.? (But who, other than museums, really cares.) PK, MK, and dilutions of PK will do satin (what I prefer), glossy and matte papers.? ? I do use a bluish "toner" that is a blend of Canon blue and cyan inks to?offset the yellowish tone of carbon.? I think it is the most stable we can mix from commonly available pigments that are compatible with Epson inkjet printers.? Paul |
开云体育Contact STS Inks down in FL. Shoot email to Joe. I’ll not post his email here but it’s pretty easy to deduce from what I just said.MK = wj1082 PK = wj1122 glop = wj824 Double-check those with Joe in case they’ve changed. --- Blayne Puklich ? ? ? ? ? ? Minneapolis, MN ? ? ? PGP Key ID: 0xC52CA6C1 * mailto:blayne at? ? ? ? ? ?I'd explain it to you, but your brain would explode On Feb 2, 2024, at 8:51?AM, hank.roark@... wrote:
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Blayne Puklich <blayne@...> wrote:
Yes, those are the ingredients I buy by the liter from STS.? The mixing formula is shown at? . Note, again, however, that the dual MKs are only for Arches watercolor paper and not needed or useful for most people who should stick with inkjet paper. Also, be sure to go to the next page of the PDF for the dilution?ratio of the toner.? Being on a different page, that critical?step, if missed, with result in very blue prints.? (A mistake I once made.) Paul |
开云体育Just for ideas, where Paul has his second 100% MK I've put a 6% PK dilution in place. Maybe that's too close to 9%, maybe not, but that's what I did. Blayne Puklich Minneapolis, MN PGP Key ID: 0xC52CA6C1
On 2 Feb 2024, at 9:38, Paul Roark wrote:
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For years I've been very satisfied with their products, which I use on an Epson with Paul Roark's formulas with an Epson Artisan 1430.
Only problem: English customs which, since the brexit, makes lose approximately one week for a sending in France which is guilty to be still in Europe :-). But perhaps it would be quicker to the USA... ?
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The C6b base is for matte printing only.? I buy glossy base (wj824, from STS Inks) for PK dilution.? For matte, just use MK with the PK dilutions.? In fact, you can use the PK as the?deepest "midtone" for matte paper. I suppose the C6B base would dilute the PK, but it would lose its glossy compatibility, particularly in the higher dilutions. Hope this helps. Paul On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:43?AM Jeff Kew <jeff@...> wrote: thanks Paul. I've been using your CB6 blend to dilute the MK in my setup. That still works with PK? |