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We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Hi Chris?
Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.? Roy
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson= [email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Thanks, Roy; will try that! Now if I could only get the P5370 OFF the roll paper feed. Always one thing after another.
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Christina Z. Anderson
Professor of Photography?
Montana State University
Series Editor:
Newly revised?
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
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We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Will be interested to learn how you like the P5370s.?
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DM,
It is not for the faint of heart. Look at how big it is compared to the P900. 200 ml cartridges, too so initial ink purchase is $1000.
Chris
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Will be interested to learn how you like the P5370s.?
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They are beasts. The front loading procedure is a little twitchy, but it works with an appropriate sprinkling of curse words. We had a DTP workshop last summer where a participant brought one to calibrate.?
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On Dec 28, 2024, at 3:19?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:
DM, It is not for the faint of heart. Look at how big it is compared to the P900. 200 ml cartridges, too so initial ink purchase is $1000. Chris <image001.jpg> ? Will be interested to learn how you like the P5370s.?
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Yikes, that is costly. But they all are these days.
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
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Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
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I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
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Chris
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
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We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?
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On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
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Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
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I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
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Chris
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Hi Alan. I have a P900 and had the wheel issue. I did as was suggested to me on this forum. Fed the printer (and printed in low opacity to save ink) a few sheets of thick posterboard. Seems that the P900 needs some time and usage to "settle" in.? Did two DTP plates and the marks have gone. Will update when I print again.
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Alan, I have a P900 and fortunately I?do not have the pizza wheel issue, however you mentioned in your post "Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels."? Can you provide any information about this setting? That would be helpful to many on this forum?and also if I should develop it in the future.
thanks Dave
Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.? On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
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Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
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I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
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Chris
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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No, didn’t try the front feeder. We tried the pizza wheel hack on one to disengage and that created problems and there are things in a school lab that are more difficult to do than at home
with traffic and usage. I think there was one student who used the front feeder for large negatives and I should ask him if he still had marks.
Chris
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Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?
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On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
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Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
?
I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
?
Chris
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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My experience with 3880, p800 and p600 is that using the front feed option eliminates the pizza wheels.? It is likely that the p900 will do the same. There is no hidden instruction, it assumes that you are loading posterboard. I use a carrier for DTP polymer
gravure? (window cut into 2 ply matte board) so that is my default anyway - for film you may want to try attaching it to a carrier as well -because I am pretty sure that the? platen gap automatically adjusts for thick media.
Berel Lutsky
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Hi Berel,
Where does one get the carrier? ?or is it just a matte board? ?Can you post a picture? ?
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On Jan 10, 2025, at 8:21 AM, Berel Lutsky via groups.io <lutskyb@...> wrote:
My experience with 3880, p800 and p600 is that using the front feed option eliminates the pizza wheels.? It is likely that the p900 will do the same. There is no hidden instruction, it assumes that you are loading posterboard. I use a carrier for DTP polymer gravure? (window cut into 2 ply matte board) so that is my default anyway - for film you may want to try attaching it to a carrier as well -because I am pretty sure that the? platen gap automatically adjusts for thick media.
Berel Lutsky
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For a DTP carrier I cut a piece of 2 ply matte board? about 2" bigger all around than my plate, I then make a PS file of a black rectangle the same size as my plate, mark the edge that goes first into the printer with an arrow, (this is to be sure to feed the
carrier consistently) Print centered-in print tool or QTR GUI,paper size is the matte board,? cut out the rectangle with about 1/32" extra all the way around - this can be "eyeballed" and will be a thin white strip between your ruler and the edge of the rectangle,
then on the bottom of the carrier attach a strip of painter's tape (low tack) so it protrudes about 1/2 inch to the inside of the rectangle. - plate goes in the window.? If you are doing this to print a film - no window is needed but only tape the leading
edge of the film to the matte board.? i can post a picture when I get back to the studio if you still need one.
Berel Lutsky
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Thanks Berel,
Yes I’d love a photo. I’d be using it to print digital negatives/film. ?I would say 50% if the time the 3880 says paper askew when I try loading via front feed with the film taped to a thin board.?
Jess
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On Jan 11, 2025, at 10:20?AM, Berel Lutsky via groups.io <lutskyb@...> wrote:
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For a DTP carrier I cut a piece of 2 ply matte board? about 2" bigger all around than my plate, I then make a PS file of a black rectangle the same size as my plate, mark the edge that goes first into the printer with an arrow, (this is to be sure to feed the
carrier consistently) Print centered-in print tool or QTR GUI,paper size is the matte board,? cut out the rectangle with about 1/32" extra all the way around - this can be "eyeballed" and will be a thin white strip between your ruler and the edge of the rectangle,
then on the bottom of the carrier attach a strip of painter's tape (low tack) so it protrudes about 1/2 inch to the inside of the rectangle. - plate goes in the window.? If you are doing this to print a film - no window is needed but only tape the leading
edge of the film to the matte board.? i can post a picture when I get back to the studio if you still need one.
Berel Lutsky
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The skew message frequency is about average, just keep trying? - once it accepts the carrier the first time it tends to settle down.? You do need to be fussy about cutting the carrier board perfectly square. I will be in the studio tomorrow and post a picture of a carrier..
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Berel Lutsky
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In the print dialog box of print tool select “Front-No Eject Roller”
On the printer - open the front feeder tray, select Front- No Eject Roller and follow the directions
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On Jan 9, 2025, at 10:05 AM, Dave Najewicz via groups.io <dnajewicz@...> wrote:
Alan, I have a P900 and fortunately I?do not have the pizza wheel issue, however you mentioned in your post "Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels."? Can you provide any information about this setting? That would be helpful to many on this forum?and also if I should develop it in the future.
thanks Dave Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.? On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
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Roy, You are a Godsend. It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine. The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound. I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students). I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means. ? Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed. ? I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints. ? Chris ?
Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370. Op sys attached. Error message attached. I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work. I’ve re-installed QTR 3x. I’ve turned on and off printer. I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads. Any ideas? Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue. Chris ?
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 08:40 PM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder, too, and they showed up fine.
Chris, thank you very much for this detail. I tried multiple time to install the p5370 with the InstallP5370=P900 before returning to this group to find what I was doing wrong. No problem at all once I changed the command to InstallP5300=P900.
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Glad I was of help!
We have had excellent luck so far with the P5370 using P900 profiles. The only remaining problem is printing on 8.5x11 I have to limit students to 9 inch prints an inch away from the edge
of the OHP or that dreaded banding occurs.
Chris
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 08:40 PM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and
pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder, too, and they showed up fine.
Chris, thank you very much for this detail. I tried multiple time to install the p5370 with the InstallP5370=P900 before returning to this group to find what I was doing wrong. No problem at all once I changed
the command to InstallP5300=P900.
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