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Re: YAAC Email

Ronny Julian
 

Please let us know.? Several folks said it as working last week so this could be a process down or a change in the Winlink system.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:37 PM Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> wrote:
Yet again I stumble. I meant sending WINLINK email via APRS is what I
was told was obsolete. There is a way to send generic email via APRS. I
just do not know the details. I think my son got it working, I will
consult with him.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 3:37 PM:
> I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at least only partly crazy..
> Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with APRS
> after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.
>
> 73
> Brad N8YG
>
> <>
>
>? ? ?On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG
>? ? ?<wa7skg@...> wrote:
>? ? ?My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I
>? ? ?asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was
>? ? ?obsolete.
>
>? ? ?Michael WA7SKG
>
>
>? ? ?n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
>? ? ? > so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt
>? ? ?that
>? ? ? > says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
>? ? ? > _._,_._,_
>
>




Re: YAAC Email

 

Yet again I stumble. I meant sending WINLINK email via APRS is what I was told was obsolete. There is a way to send generic email via APRS. I just do not know the details. I think my son got it working, I will consult with him.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 3:37 PM:

I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at least only partly crazy..
Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with APRS after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.
73
Brad N8YG
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG
<wa7skg@...> wrote:
My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I
asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was
obsolete.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
> so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt
that
> says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
> _._,_._,_


Re: YAAC Email

n8yg
 

I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at least only partly crazy..
Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with APRS after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.

73
Brad N8YG


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG
<wa7skg@...> wrote:
My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I
asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was obsolete.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
> so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt that
> says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
> _._,_._,_




Re: YAAC Email

 

My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was obsolete.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:

so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt that says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
_._,_._,_


Re: YAAC WINLINK email

 

Wlnk-1 worked at least last week.?


Re: YAAC WINLINK email

 

I used it a few days ago following the instructions on the winlink website for APRS link


Re: YAAC WINLINK email

Ronny Julian
 

No WLNK-1 is dead or at least something has changed.? I can send Winlink fine otherwise but not via YAAC.? Andrew is this what you used for design???

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:29 AM n8yg via Groups.Io <n8yg=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, first post, new to APRS, but was very active with packet back in the 80's.. wow long time ago..?

Anyway, I have an account with winlink email.. and have a login and password.? But it's elusive to me how to email from YAAC?
I keep getting invalid login challenge response..?
I saw? something about the program should mix in the password with? seq number.. but have no idea where I use the password in YAAC.?
probably a no brainer.. but need a bit of help.?
Thanks es 73?
Brad N8YG


Re: YAAC Email

 

I was never able to get the built-in email screen to work. I was able to use the basic YAAC messaging send/receive feature with WLNK-1 as the destination to use the APRSLink methodology... https://www.winlink.org/APRSLink


Re: YAAC Email

Ronny Julian
 

That did it!? I knew it was something I had done.? Thanks!

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
There is (or was) a crude APRS-to-Winlink gateway once upon a time. I'm not sure if it is still working, and whether or not its interface protocol over APRS has changed since I wrote the APRS-Winlink client screen in YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 3/17/20 12:00 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC Email

YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need
to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or
process traffic.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:
> Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on
> the groups messages..
> Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be
> able to figure it out without an assist.
> I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an
> email that says
> "invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is
> there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program
> somewhere?
> 73 Brad N8YG




Re: YAAC Email

n8yg
 

What little I know is that there once was a way to send to winlink.. without a password.. now I think they want part of your password or something like that interlinked with the sequence number ..whatever... it looks like it's not working.. so good to know. I'll quit trying..:-)
Thanks?
Brad N8YG


On Tuesday, March 17, 2020, 01:24:56 PM EDT, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:


There is (or was) a crude APRS-to-Winlink gateway once upon a time. I'm not sure if it is still working, and whether or not its interface protocol over APRS has changed since I wrote the APRS-Winlink client screen in YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 3/17/20 12:00 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC Email

YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need
to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or
process traffic.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:
> Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on
> the groups messages..
> Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be
> able to figure it out without an assist.
> I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an
> email that says
> "invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is
> there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program
> somewhere?
> 73 Brad N8YG




Re: Can't turn off Weather view

 

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It looks like you are actually referring to the weather radar overlay, which is a special case within the Raster Map overlay. YAAC knows how to download a radar map from the US National Weather Service and align it automatically (as opposed to the manual alignment for other raster overlays).

To get rid of it, go to View-> Raster Map, and either uncheck (disable) or delete entirely the overlay from the NWS website that is listed in the table of raster maps.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


-------- Original message --------
From: Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
Date: 3/17/20 13:21 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Can't turn off Weather view

Hi.? I have clicked off the Weatrher view box in YAAC and restarted the box.? The Weather view will not turn off.? What other options control this view?? Thanks!


Re: YAAC Email

 

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There is (or was) a crude APRS-to-Winlink gateway once upon a time. I'm not sure if it is still working, and whether or not its interface protocol over APRS has changed since I wrote the APRS-Winlink client screen in YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 3/17/20 12:00 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC Email

YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need
to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or
process traffic.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:
> Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on
> the groups messages..
> Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be
> able to figure it out without an assist.
> I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an
> email that says
> "invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is
> there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program
> somewhere?
> 73 Brad N8YG




Can't turn off Weather view

Ronny Julian
 

Hi.? I have clicked off the Weatrher view box in YAAC and restarted the box.? The Weather view will not turn off.? What other options control this view?? Thanks!


Re: YAAC Email

n8yg
 

so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt that says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??


Re: YAAC Email

 

YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or process traffic.

Michael WA7SKG


n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:

Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on the groups messages..
Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be able to figure it out without an assist.
I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an email that says
"invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program somewhere?
73 Brad N8YG


YAAC Email

n8yg
 

Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on the groups messages..?
Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be able to figure it out without an assist.?
I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an email that says?
"invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program somewhere??
73 Brad N8YG


YAAC WINLINK email

n8yg
 

Hi, first post, new to APRS, but was very active with packet back in the 80's.. wow long time ago..?

Anyway, I have an account with winlink email.. and have a login and password.? But it's elusive to me how to email from YAAC?
I keep getting invalid login challenge response..?
I saw? something about the program should mix in the password with? seq number.. but have no idea where I use the password in YAAC.?
probably a no brainer.. but need a bit of help.?
Thanks es 73?
Brad N8YG


Packets from IS not igating out to RF

 

I thought I posted on this a week or so ago but I’m struggling to get packets from IS out over RF through my Igate / Digipeater AG7GK-2
I’m running YAAC with two ports defined:
Serial TNC on TNCPI - works great for Digipeating and igating so far
APRS-IS port - filter is defined as m/120 -p/CW

When I transmit from my HT the Igate picks it up fine and gets to my phone. ?The ACKs are sent from the phone but do not Igate out to RF even though I have RF> IS and IS>RF checked in “Transmit Tab”. ?I’ve tried filters to specifically allow traffic by type and by callsign but no luck. ?I”be not had this problem with APRSIS/32 OR aprx clients but they are deficient in multiple ways compared to YAAC.?

Thoughts? ?

Why do the supplemental Igate filters disappear when I save them to the field on the transmit tab?

HT CALLSIGN: AG7GK-7
PHONE CALLSIGN: AG7GK-8
IGATE / DIGIPEATER: AG7GK-2


Configuration for fill-in digipeater / RF <> IS Igate

 

Hello,

I've been really impressed with YAAC. I have set up a Rpi3 with TNC-PI2 connected to a yeasu 2980R 2m rig.? I originally started with a windows 7 machine running APRS IS/32 which worked great for last couple of months but I wanted something more portable that I can put at a repeater site my buddy has space in so I moved to the TNCPI.? I set up APRX first but it lacks good message management and a basic GUI and I really want to use YAAC.? Which brings me to my one problem:

I can't seem to get IS messages back out over RF despite having a Supplemental IF filter set and a filter set on my IS port.? On the other apps I had no problem testing sending from my APRS client on a phone / tablet out to my HT over IS > RF and back again from HT to Phone from RF > IS.? Both RF and IS igating are configured.? I'm assuming it's something to do with the filter OR my digipeat path settings but at this point I'm so turned around I can't get what was working quite easily on my last two configurations to work with this.?

Could someone check out my configs and let me know what I'm missing?

My callsign SSID assignments are as follows:
AG7GK-2 is the Igate / Digipeaters (RF AND APRS-IS CONNECTED)
AG7GK-7 is my HT, a yaesu FT2D
AG7GK-8 is my Iphone / Ipad (depending on which is connected and on) connected to APRS-IS

Main expert General config screen(don't see any relevant settings):



Note: Whenver I set a supplemental Tx-Igate filter it does not "store" in this field, I can't tell if it's working or if it is getting overriden by the APRS-IS port filter.? At this time i set that filter to m/120, or 120km range from my beacon location.?
I have RF>IS AND IS > RF gating enabled










Here are some examples of messages:
My HT beacon and raw filter from YAAC entry:?


I confirm that message and show good path on APRS.fi through AG7GK-2


Mesa from AG7GK-2 to AG7GK-7 over RF worked great, ACK received from AG7GK-7 TO AG7GK-2



I sent a message back from the HT AG7GK-7 over RF to AG7GK-2 and received and ACK on the HT



Testing from HT TO pocket packet AG7GK-8 i do not receive an Ack? though the phone sends it:



What issue do I have with my digipeat / igate settings or paths??

Thanks AG7GK
Aaron Jones


Re: YAAC not rendering water contained by shoreline

 

Interesting... What data is there in that tile to tell you the base layer of what's there?

Eric WG3K






-------- Original Message --------
On Mar 8, 2020, 21:57, Andrew P. < andrewemt@...> wrote:

Yes, that's a problem I've been wrangling with for quite some time. Dicing up a map into tile squares with large bodies of water makes it hard to figure out which edges of the square are the body of water, and I'm still trying to fix the algorithm.

Dealing with oceans is even worse.?

But I'll keep trying.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


-------- Original message --------
From: "Eric H. Christensen via Groups.Io" <eric@...>
Date: 3/8/20 21:26 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] YAAC not rendering water contained by shoreline

I've noticed that YAAC isn't rendering water that is contained by shoreline ways as being water. This leaves a lot of water area showing up as white space.

Thanks,
Eric WG3K