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Locked Re: Loco moving only during sensing decoder type | Decoder Pro

 

Wow thank you guys for the help, It is greatly appreciated. Truly.

So I went and cleared everything I had in the roster, threw the loco on the programming track, and clicked "Identify", after moving backwards for a bit it a pop-up appeared and read "3007 was read from the decoder but has not been found in the roster" and that was it.

After that I clicked "New Loco" and clicked "Read type from decoder" I selected one of the four highlighted Decoders, the "2 function decoder" and the long address read as "3007". On that same page I then clicked "Open Comprehensive Programmer". Once there I made the ID of the loco 3007, then went to the CV's tab and clicked "Read Full Sheet" and let the process complete. Here are the CV values:
CV 1: 3
CV 2: 10
CV 3: 1
CV 8: 101
CV 17: 203
CV 18: 191
CV 29: 38
The column next to the CV values on the right reads" read" on all CVs.
Also on the Comprehensive Programmer it says it has a primary address of 3, and extended address of 3007.

I don't know if that is the method you all meant when it was said to identify the loco not from the roster, but that is the method I took.

Thanks again, I truly appreciate it,
Thomas


Locked Re: JMRI V5.3.5+Rff6cfe01dc - NCE:Show NCE Cabs #nce

 

I’ve tried showing all cabs and it only does the current one on the handheld screen unfortunately. ?I am running window 11 on a laptop. ?I wonder if I’m missing anything else?
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Duncan Hamilton


Locked Re: JMRI V5.3.5+Rff6cfe01dc - NCE:Show NCE Cabs #nce

 

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If memory serves, EVERYTHING on the cab bus (with a cab ID) shows up. Pretty certain my NCE USB did

Phil G


On 1 May 2023, at 18:13, whmvd via groups.io <vandoornw@...> wrote:

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Hi Duncan,

You are confusing loco cabs (the locos under your control) with NCE's concept of a cab, which is a controller connected via the cab bus to the command station, in your case just the power cab itself. Add a ProCab and you'd see another cab show up.

At this point, I don't remember if AIUs? MiniPanels and the NCE-USB should also be in that list? but I'm sure a more enlightened soul than I am will chime in.

Wouter

On Mon, 1 May 2023, 17:23 Duncan via , <dunradar09=[email protected]> wrote:
Dear testers,

I have just downloaded the current test version of JMRI as you can see by the title.? I have had a look to see what ‘Cabs’ are on my NCE Powercab handset and can only set the current cab in use.? Is it possible to show more cabs on a single handset please as I can RECALL upto 6, thank you.?

Kind regards
Duncan Hamilton


Locked Re: What would it take to enable "read full page" with Programming on the main? (when capable). Anyone have thoughts about thish?

 

ScottIf you are using a loconet connection is the "Transponding Present" in advanced options set to yes as per item 13 here?file:///home/sg/JMRI-Files/JMRI/help/en/local/index.html#package.apps.TabbedPreferences
Steve G.


Locked Re: TCS WOW 121 diesel decoder question #tcs

 

Mark,
Read this and look at the Tsunami section. It' slightly different from the standard for locking:





On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:55?AM Mark Taylor <Malicotrains21@...> wrote:
Thanks Tim.
My decoders are not locked.
I will lock them when I figure it out.

Mark.

On Mon., May 1, 2023, 11:39 a.m. Tim Kelley, <tim.kelley@...> wrote:
Good morning Mark,
I have 3 TCS WOW-121 Steam Decoders. I think they are very similar. Sometimes hickups can happen on the rails
and the decoders can sometimes interpret them as programming commands. I have been "LOCKING" all of my TCS WOW-121 Steam Decoders.
That way they are locked and will NOT accept any programming commands. When the time comes and you want to make programming changes
to the decoders you can then unlock them to make the CV changes. I know this doesn't exactly answer your question right now
but it might avoid some future problems down the road.



Good luck!
Tim


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Hi John & Folks

I believe one way to do it is to set up the team track with "phantom" numbers

Team Track-1. Team Track-2. Team Track-3, for each industry

The Set Out won't be "Ryan's Rebar", it will be a car type & car #, L&N 123456 for example

I'm not even sure you need to have multi numbers for Team Track.? Team Track can be a destination for multiple car types, established in the "Services Car Type and or Loads" setting for the spur

Team Track-1 could/would be for Ryan's Rebar, and would have the car types to be serviced, like any other spur.? You may wish to use custom loads, but I don't think it is necessary at first.

Based on your?description, and the label of team track I am assuming the car won't be moved to Ryan's Rebar, it will stay at the team track dock till unloaded and then be taken away be a train.

John Stewart
Birmingham, AL

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Locked Re: JMRI V5.3.5+Rff6cfe01dc - NCE:Show NCE Cabs #nce

 

Hi Duncan,

You are confusing loco cabs (the locos under your control) with NCE's concept of a cab, which is a controller connected via the cab bus to the command station, in your case just the power cab itself. Add a ProCab and you'd see another cab show up.

At this point, I don't remember if AIUs? MiniPanels and the NCE-USB should also be in that list? but I'm sure a more enlightened soul than I am will chime in.

Wouter

On Mon, 1 May 2023, 17:23 Duncan via , <dunradar09=[email protected]> wrote:
Dear testers,

I have just downloaded the current test version of JMRI as you can see by the title.? I have had a look to see what ‘Cabs’ are on my NCE Powercab handset and can only set the current cab in use.? Is it possible to show more cabs on a single handset please as I can RECALL upto 6, thank you.?

Kind regards
Duncan Hamilton


Locked Re: Soundtraxx Tsunami not recognized in version 5.3.4 #soundtraxx #tsunami

 

I have opened issue #11982 in JMRI's source repository to cover this problem.


Locked Re: What would it take to enable "read full page" with Programming on the main? (when capable). Anyone have thoughts about thish?

 

Then I wonder why all the "Read" buttons on the decoder page are grayed out. My JMRI is 5.3.3 on Windows 10 wiht Java 11.0.14. Anyone have an idea why that might be?

Scott Walton


Locked Re: Figuring out where I need to place my "blocks" #blocks

 

I found out right away that I couldn't think of individual items like blocks, signaling, detection, and power feed.
They are all part of a system.

Start out with turnout protection.?
Signals are needed (either real or virtual) on each leg.
Signals reside (usually) at block boundaries.
Some of my turnout track work are close and I consider that set of turnouts as one structure. (think 3-way)
When you run automation, each turnout needs to be a block.
If you plan to detect the turnout, gap each leg.
I didn't burn a detector channel, so I simulated the turnout occupancy (it's tricky)
Sometimes, I seriously thought of detecting certain turnouts.
Generally, you'll assign a JMRI block to an electrical block and detect on the feed.

I use JMRI mast logic, but plan your signals now regardless of signal system you use.
For the time begin you and run automation without signals.
I ran my automation with virtual signals until I installed hardware.

Like carpentry - measure twice cut once - plan twice then build.

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Locked Re: Figuring out where I need to place my "blocks" #blocks

 

Tim,

Since you plan to do signaling, I would recommend each turnout, or group of turnouts, has its own block. ?For example, a "group of turnouts" could be two turnouts acting as a 3-way turnout. ?Or an interlocking plant.

A signal protects a "point of conflict". ?That is normally a turnout or a level crossing. ?In JMRI, signal masts are placed at block boundaries. ?To fully protect a turnout, the block boundaries have to be at the throat and legs.

It is easier to work with too many blocks than not enough blocks.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Tim Kelley <tim.kelley@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] Figuring out where I need to place my "blocks"
Date: Monday, May 01, 2023 11:05 AM

Good morning,
I am in the planning stages of my layout. I am currently trying to figure out where I need to place my "blocks".
I am using all Digitrax hardware including a Digitrax BXP88 for power management and also block occupancy detection. I believe the BXP88
reports block occupancy status to LocoNet. I'm also using Peco ElectroFrog turnouts. I've watched some videos on youtube
and I'm thinking of setting up my Peco ElectroFrog turnouts so that each one of those turnouts is it's own individual block. I'm planning to use JMRI software
for running my layout and someday maybe CATS software. Someday I plan on adding signals to my layout. I believe there are a couple
of different ways of wiring up the Peco ElectroFrog turnouts. So should I plan on setting up my turnouts so that each one of them is it's own block?
What do you guys think? Is that the best plan?
Thanks,
Tim


Locked Re: Position and size of windows

 

The location and size are the most recent values when PanelPro is stopped.

If you want to use the "stored" values, go to "Preferences => Display" and enable "Use old location and size logic for editor panels".

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Renato Albano Petersen FIlho <rapeterf@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] Position and size of windows
Date: Monday, May 01, 2023 11:07 AM

What determines the position and size of windows in jmri? At some point the positions and sizes were recorded. Now no matter how much I reposition and resize windows, saving using "store all tablets content and panels", nothing changes and remains with some past definition


Locked JMRI V5.3.5+Rff6cfe01dc - NCE:Show NCE Cabs #nce

 

Dear testers,

I have just downloaded the current test version of JMRI as you can see by the title. ?I have had a look to see what ‘Cabs’ are on my NCE Powercab handset and can only set the current cab in use. ?Is it possible to show more cabs on a single handset please as I can RECALL upto 6, thank you.?

Kind regards
Duncan Hamilton


Locked Re: What would it take to enable "read full page" with Programming on the main? (when capable). Anyone have thoughts about thish?

 

Scott
Using Roco I can read all / read sheet, but, I cannot read any indexed CV.
Steve G.


Locked Position and size of windows

 

What determines the position and size of windows in jmri? At some point the positions and sizes were recorded. Now no matter how much I reposition and resize windows, saving using "store all tablets content and panels", nothing changes and remains with some past definition


Locked Figuring out where I need to place my "blocks" #blocks

Tim Kelley
 

Good morning,
I am in the planning stages of my layout. I am currently trying to figure out where I need to place my "blocks".
I am using all Digitrax hardware including a Digitrax BXP88 for power management and also block occupancy detection. I believe the BXP88
reports block occupancy status to LocoNet. I'm also using Peco ElectroFrog turnouts. I've watched some videos on youtube
and I'm thinking of setting up my Peco ElectroFrog turnouts so that each one of those turnouts is it's own individual block. I'm planning to use JMRI software
for running my layout and someday maybe CATS software. Someday I plan on adding signals to my layout. I believe there are a couple
of different ways of wiring up the Peco ElectroFrog turnouts. So should I plan on setting up my turnouts so that each one of them is it's own block?
What do you guys think? Is that the best plan?
Thanks,
Tim


Locked Re: I have apparently created a loop or message storm in Loconet - I don't know if it's JMRI or not -- any suggestions on how to diagnose?

 

Douwe,

The send count option is only applicable to signal mast drivers that talk directly to the layout, such as the "DCC Signal Mast Decoder". ? ?

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From:?douwe@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] I have apparently created a loop or message storm in Loconet - I don't know if it's JMRI or not -- any suggestions on how to diagnose?
Date: Monday, May 01, 2023 10:47 AM

I followed this discussion and was triggered by the comment that you can set the number of 'send counts' to a mast.
I know you can set that for a turnout, but for a mast I haven't been able to find that setting anywhere.
What am I missing?

?


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Locked Re: TCS WOW 121 diesel decoder question #tcs

 

Thanks Tim.
My decoders are not locked.
I will lock them when I figure it out.

Mark.

On Mon., May 1, 2023, 11:39 a.m. Tim Kelley, <tim.kelley@...> wrote:
Good morning Mark,
I have 3 TCS WOW-121 Steam Decoders. I think they are very similar. Sometimes hickups can happen on the rails
and the decoders can sometimes interpret them as programming commands. I have been "LOCKING" all of my TCS WOW-121 Steam Decoders.
That way they are locked and will NOT accept any programming commands. When the time comes and you want to make programming changes
to the decoders you can then unlock them to make the CV changes. I know this doesn't exactly answer your question right now
but it might avoid some future problems down the road.



Good luck!
Tim


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MARK TAYLOR


Locked Re: I have apparently created a loop or message storm in Loconet - I don't know if it's JMRI or not -- any suggestions on how to diagnose?

 

I followed this discussion and was triggered by the comment that you can set the number of 'send counts' to a mast.
I know you can set that for a turnout, but for a mast I haven't been able to find that setting anywhere.
What am I missing?

?


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Douwe


Locked Re: TCS WOW 121 diesel decoder question #tcs

 

Since this is a decoder issue and not JMRI you should take your questions to the TCS group.
/g/TCS-Users

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