SoundTraxx Tsunami decoders are ordered based on the type of loco you have, EMD, GE, Alco, etc. ?each decoder will have several prime mover choices, several bell and horn types, several headlight types, etc. ?These options are selected by changing CVs or in the case of using JMRI, through a plain English (or your chosen language) menus once JMRI has read the decoder information. ?It is important to order the correct decoder for your locomotive because you cannot change a SoundTraxx GE decoder to EMD for example.
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Test version 5.3.6 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download.
This is the next in a series of test releases that will culminate in a production release, hopefully in Summer 2023. It's really helpful when people download, install and use these test versions so we can find and fix any inadvertent new problems early.
We're getting close to the end of the development series, so we'd appreciate feedback on whether or not this release works for your layout.
If you are currently using JMRI 4.99.10 or earlier, there is an update process that we strongly recommend. See the release note section on updates:
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For more information on the issues, new features and bug fixes in 5.3.6 please see the release note:
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Note that JMRI is made available under the GNU General Public License. For more information, please see our copyright and licensing page.
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The download links, along with lots of other information which we hope you'll read, can be found on the release note page:
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David,
The link I'm including is to a Soundtraxx document that discusses how to use CV values to
identify their decoders. Even if the version of your JMRI/DecoderPro installation is out of date,
you can manually read the CV's and make a determination yourself.
Note that newer decoders tend to have the ability to identify specific decoder versions in great
detail, while older decoders (when the need wasn't quite as well known or manufacturers didn't
always pay close attention to these details) will only identify down to a "family" of decoders.
Hope this helps.
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Everything I do is geared towards operations. So my comment should have said “ with the popularity of this thread hopefully the brains behind the programming will add more features to allow operations to be more efficient and more automated with car/train location updates”?
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Yes (if you mean programming cvs) and No respectively
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On 6 May 2023, at 21:04, Lawrence Varady via groups.io <mrmrsv5049@...> wrote:
?I have a Power Cab system running N scale .
Will Tsunami be programmable and Sound files downloadable with out any extra hardware?
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I have a Power Cab system running N scale .
Will Tsunami be programmable and Sound files downloadable with out any extra hardware?
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5.2 JMRI LCC CDI appears to not sort LCC Nodes correctly for Name or Description?
Name sort seems tripped up by the Node address field for the seven nodes currently used: ?Nodes numbered 02.01.57.11.00.xx sort alpha, THEN followed by the ?five 02.01.57.00.05.xx sorted alpha.
Description fails to sort alpha correctly with no apparent pattern, but always the same pattern.
I cannot imagine the cause for such behavior. Our layout will eventually have some 30 Nodes, and we are relying on a Name sort to group related Nodes together. Has anyone else tried sorting by Name or by Description?
Thanks for feedback on this.
-=m=-
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As well as checking the part, also look at the version of your
DecoderPro/JMRI. The loco you have may be newer than your DP version and do
can’t be expected to know about it. Current JNRI is 5.2 or test 5.3.5.
Note to the 5.0 and above need Java 11 and not Java 8.
Mick
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I haven’t used my programming booster in years. ?With newer decoders, i get better results without it. ?As others have said, let decoder pro read the decoder through a roster add and then look at the matched items. ?Sometimes multiple options show up within a brand/series of decoder that enable options like ditch lights, etc.
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If you are looking st ESU equipped locos and want to change sound files, then you will need an ESU LokProgrammer to change the sound files. ?As well, some of the paging for CVs in ESU decoders gets very complicated, and a LokProgrammer makes that easier. ?The LokProgrammer does not connect to a DCC system so one less interface, you can also test the engines with its built in engine driver. ?
I am in HO and prefer to deploy Soundtraxx Tsunami2 decoders where ever possible, and Decoder Pro is a champ for programming these. ?My best days are working on locos with DecoderPro and Tsunamis.
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FWIW – some decoders use the speaker as the load for CV read back.? IIRC, the Tsunami uses the speaker; I’d expect the Tsunami 2 to also use the speaker.
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Reading will not work without the motor load.
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First, do a read type from decoder to get the correct decoder definition.
This might be so old there is not a proper set of features in the decoder. Early decoders had some odd feature sets before things settled in.
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I would suspect that what you thought you read is actually rubbish. If the description of your setup is correct, you cannot read cv values. You can program on the main, but the program track won't do anything useful for you.
Wouter
I did a decoder read and it gave me multiple possible types, how would I find exactly which one or does it not matter?  -- Cheers, Wilks
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Check the part number on the decoder:? Tsunami: TSU-21PNEM8 | 885809 Economi: ECO-21PNEM | 882006
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MIGRATION TO RFID4MMR
Guys
I'm thinking that we may be trying the patience of our Moderator, who has been very patient with us thus far.
As we move forward with this project, we will necessarily have to discuss items that will be 'off topic'. So can I suggest we move our discussions to? RFID4MRR??
I've started a new thread on RFID4MRR to this end.
Steve
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Tom
Thanks again for the latest PN532 Serial/Ethernet sketch. I will give that a go later.
MQTT eh? I've not really investigated this much, does it offer advantages over Serial or Ethernet? Good you've got it to work easily enough.
Steve
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Wilks,
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You need to connect up the actual decoder you want to use and let JMRI identify it. That will test your programming "system" from end to end. As Wouter said, you need the motor connected so the decoder can create the current load pulse that is used to signal back to the programmer when a programming step completes, such as setting a CV.
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Normally, this is part of adding a loco to the JMRI roster, so you might want to start there.
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You will want to set the loco's active address, usually it's a long address type, typically to match the loco's number on its number boards and paint or decals.
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Once the decoder type is identified, and a loco entry is made in your JMRI roster, you should try programming on the main when adjusting the sound volumes; bell, whistle, and horn types, and light operation modes. I find it's much easier that way, since the changes made show up immediately. Just make certain you've specified the address of the loco you want to program.
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Don W
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The box says Tsunami 2 while the sheet enclosed within the box says Econami. ?The Athearn parts list shows it had an Athearn Quick Plug that either has an 8 or 9 pin plug. ?I don’t think that there is an Econami decoder that has a plug. ?They are either an atlas style decoder or a 21 pin decoder so I have no idea. ?I really don’t want to pull off the shell if I don’t have to die to all the wires. ?
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If DeciderPro can’t tell the difference, then the cvs it’s read aren’t telling it enough information (or more likely SoundTraxx don’t provide enough information) to tell them apart
Do you have any clues from the packaging/instructions?
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On 6 May 2023, at 14:48, David dareese51 via groups.io <dareese51@...> wrote:
?I just purchased a new Athearn RTR SD40-2 that came with a Soundtraxx sound decoder. ?When I put it on my stand alone programming track which is connected through a Sprog 3 to my computer and go into Decoder Pro and select new loco I get
the entire list of Soundtraxx decoders. ?How do I identify the correct one?
David Reese
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If DeciderPro can’t tell the difference, then the cvs it’s read aren’t telling it enough information (or more likely SoundTraxx don’t provide enough information) to tell them apart
Do you have any clues from the packaging/instructions?
Phil G
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?I just purchased a new Athearn RTR SD40-2 that came with a Soundtraxx sound decoder. ?When I put it on my stand alone programming track which is connected through a Sprog 3 to my computer and go into Decoder Pro and select new loco I get
the entire list of Soundtraxx decoders. ?How do I identify the correct one?
David Reese
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I did a decoder read and it gave me multiple possible types, how would I find exactly which one or does it not matter?  -- Cheers, Wilks
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I just purchased a new Athearn RTR SD40-2 that came with a Soundtraxx sound decoder. When I put it on my stand alone programming track which is connected through a Sprog 3 to my computer and go into Decoder Pro and select new loco I get the entire list of Soundtraxx decoders. How do I identify the correct one?
David Reese
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Wilks