Re: Stopping distance from stop sensor

#238542

Thanks, Steve.?
but pardon my ignorance but where do I specify the action to use estop instead of plain stop?

Is it done in the transit table?

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+------------------------------------------

| JMRI version: 5.8+

| Java Version: 17.0.10

| Command Station: DCC-EX version 5.0.7

|.Host: MacBook Pro Sonoma 14.6.1

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Re: "Error Initializing PanelPro" upon JMRI Startup

#238541

Isaac,

Upload the messages.log file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder. ?It will be located in the "C:\Users\<username>\JMRI\log directory.

Dave Sand

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----- Original message -----

From: "Isaac Fabris via groups.io" <trackplanningbyizaak=[email protected]>

To:?[email protected]

Subject: [jmriusers] "Error Initializing PanelPro" upon JMRI Startup

Date: Saturday, December 28, 2024 8:16 PM

Howdy,

After not opening JMRI for a few weeks, I tried the other day to open PanelPro (to use OperationsPro) and promptly got a completely blank popup entitled "Error Initializing PanelPro" that I had to use Task Manager to close. Have tried multiple times since and even uninstalled then reinstalled both Java and JMRI and still get the same error. I've searched this group and the manual to no avail.

Running Java 11 and JMRI 5.2 on Windows 10, afaik

Any ideas how to resolve?

Thanks,

Isaac

Re: Getting latest decoder definitions vs. JMRI release vs. Java version

#238540

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I know. I was just giving the some possible good news

Phil G

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On 8 Jan 2025, at 19:40, John Griffin via groups.io <johng.sst@...> wrote:

?
Phil,
That's the one you want to be running right now. It's the recommended version.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 9:50?AM Phil G via <phil=[email protected]> wrote:

I'm running Azuls JAVA 17 on Windows 8 if that helps.....

Phil G

On 08/01/2025 16:47, Bob Jacobsen via wrote:
> Could you tell us a little bit more about your PC?
>
> Oracle’s Java 11 might not support your PC, but the Java 11 from some other vendors go back quite far:
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>> On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:39?AM, Ian W via <ian=[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
>> Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
>> If there's a way around this, do please tell.
>> New Year Felicitations
>>
> —
> Bob Jacobsen
> rgj1927@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Model Railroading Topics

Re: Lenz LI-USB-ETHERNET First Read On Any Page Always Times Out #lenz

#238539

I've now tried hooking up the USB connection in addition to the Ethernet connection and I'm getting the same results.??

My first question is, is there a way to change the timeout setting, so it doesn't take so long before it times out and starts reading or writing the second item?? Once it times out on the first thing it's reading or writing on the program track, it will read/write the rest just fine.

?

I also tried programming on the mainline and this works great every single time with no timeouts and no issues to report whatsoever.? This didn't make sense to me, so I replaced my programming track with some Kato Unitrack and new wiring but still get the same results on the programming track.

?

So now I do everything except a reset, address changing, and reading pages directly on the main since it never errors out, but with my Lenz 3.6 system, I cannot change the address, reset the loco, or read anything on the mainline and don't want to spend over $400 to upgrade my system just to be able to do these three things.

?

Instead, I'd much rather figure this problem out.

?

Does anyone have any further ideas?? Can I change the timeout "time" so it times out faster so I don't have to wait so long when doing things on the programming track?

Finally, what could cause writing to fail on the programming track for the first write every single time but never ever have any trouble when writing when on the mainline?

Thanks,

?

--Jason

Re: Usb volume control with engine driver beeps #enginedriver

#238538

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In addition to a joystick, the small (finger ring style) Bluetooth game pad controllers I use with EngineDriver have 6 buttons that are all configurable in ED.? I set one of the two front buttons to Stop and use the 4 buttons on top for F0, F1, F2 and F3.? Works great.

?

Robin

?

Robin Becker

N3IX Engineering LLC

San Diego CA

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Koren
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Usb volume control with engine driver beeps #enginedriver

?

Peter,

Thanks for reminding me about the game pads. Years ago, I purchased and used those little things. Spring loaded switch. Up is forward, down is reverse. My issue with them was getting them to stop the loco completely like a potentiometer knobbed throttle would do. James’ idea with the BT knob would be perfect if it was a pot type and not encoder style. A BT center off toggle switch for the direction (like the UT4) would be great but can you use 2 BT devices on one device at the same time? Again, I’m looking for the UT4 type action of not having to look at the throttle in use and using the toggle switch to control the momentum and accel/decel equipped loco while switching.?
Ken

Re: Decoderpro version 5.10 #definitions

#238537

Did you follow the procedure in the JMRI release notes on how to do the update?

Once the update is done you shouldn't need to import anything.

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 at 19:41, Roger Booth via <rbooth123=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

?

I am new to the group but I have been using DecoderPro for years in my Windows (now 10) setup.

I decided to update to version 5.10 and also downloaded the Azul java 17. All installed fine and it was working as it should.

However I wanted to upload a new Decoder profile that I had modified which validated fine but I could not get it to upload using the Import File. I even tried modifying the xml Decoder Index but that didn't work either.

So I uninstalled 5.10 and installed 4.26, and had no problem in importing my decoder file and all worked fine.?

Any thoughts why had issues with 5.10?

Thanks.

?

Regards

?

Roger

?
Sent from

Decoderpro version 5.10 #definitions

#238536

Hi,

?

I am new to the group but I have been using DecoderPro for years in my Windows (now 10) setup.

I decided to update to version 5.10 and also downloaded the Azul java 17. All installed fine and it was working as it should.

However I wanted to upload a new Decoder profile that I had modified which validated fine but I could not get it to upload using the Import File. I even tried modifying the xml Decoder Index but that didn't work either.

So I uninstalled 5.10 and installed 4.26, and had no problem in importing my decoder file and all worked fine.?

Any thoughts why had issues with 5.10?

Thanks.

?

Regards

?

Roger

?

Sent from

Re: Getting latest decoder definitions vs. JMRI release vs. Java version

#238535

Phil,

That's the one you want to be running right now. It's the recommended version.

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 9:50?AM Phil G via <phil=[email protected]> wrote:

I'm running Azuls JAVA 17 on Windows 8 if that helps.....

Phil G

On 08/01/2025 16:47, Bob Jacobsen via wrote:
> Could you tell us a little bit more about your PC?
>
> Oracle’s Java 11 might not support your PC, but the Java 11 from some other vendors go back quite far:
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>> On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:39?AM, Ian W via <ian=[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
>> Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
>> If there's a way around this, do please tell.
>> New Year Felicitations
>>
> —
> Bob Jacobsen
> rgj1927@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--

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Model Railroading Topics

Re: "Error Initializing PanelPro" upon JMRI Startup

#238534

Bump

Re: Semaphore signals #semaphore

#238533

Response from the manafacturer.?

?

Hi Howard,

?

I assume that the decoder drive you purchased was the 4L-001-001 (or the TrainTech SC3)?

?

Forgetting JMRI for the moment, once the decoder drive is set up, it is triggered by entering the accessory DCC address on a DCC handset, and then setting the ‘direction’ left or right (or north or south in some DCC systems’ parlance). So, it is expecting to receive DCC commands the same as those for a point motor.

?

I’m not an expert with JMRI as I have only used pat of it (DecoderPro) for creating a library of loco decoder settings, so I have no idea what the “NMRA Extended Accessory Decoder” mode is. In my logical way of thinking, I would set it up in JMRI as a point motor, which I think you have done when you say it only works with a switch command (that is, American ‘switch’ for English ‘point’ or ‘turnout’), but maybe I’m mis-reading your words!

?

The 4A-001-001 (and the 4A-001-002) can only be configured as far as setting the addresses; there are no other options available.

?

I hope this helps, but please let me know if you have any further queries.

?

Best regards,

Keith

?

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From:?Howard Witt <howard@...>
Sent:?Wednesday, January 8, 2025 3:49:47 PM
To:?Keith <Keith@...>
Cc:?sales <sales@...>
Subject:?Re: Dapol working semaphore signals

?

Hi Keith

?

Purchased two home signals and your decoder drive. However it does not seem to work with JMRI? ?It only works with a switch command such as a turn out address.?

Can device be?reconfigured the to use the "NMRA Extended Accessory Decoder" mode??

?

Kind regards

?

Re: Turnout circle transparency is not saved

#238532

New issue created - Externalise (and save) Turnout Circle Transparency #13759 at 

Cheers

Phil G

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On 08/01/2025 16:51, Dave Sand via groups.io wrote:
Phil,

The transparency (alpha value) is not retained.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Turnout circle transparency is not saved
Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 10:44 AM

I've just discovered the "transparency" option for filled turnout
circles and it seems to fit my needs perfectly

Except, when I set a particular transparency, it seems to work fine for
the current JMRI session

BUT after a restart of JMRI, I have lost my transparency

And yes, I DID save the changes before I restarted

Is it possible that this is not externalised to the panel file??? I can
see where the circle COLOURS are defined as well as whether the circles
are filled or not (they are) - but no mention of transparency

Phil G

Re: Windows behaviour on Ras Pi/Wayland

#238531

At Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:49:02 +0000 "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...> wrote:

WOW, this is SO unpredictable

I wondered if it was a difference between the iOS version of RealVNC and
the Windows version (and whether to try TigerVNC on Windows)

BUT

Sometimes single windows can be minimised. Then after a Pi restart, only
ALL the windows can be minimised (on Win or iOS). Then after another
restart, individual windows are minimisable (maybe)

Looks like either a problem in the WayVNC server or something I can't
imagine

And as I ONLY have access to my Pi through VNC, I don't think the VNC
server is going to be easy to change

I guess i'm stuck with itOne option (and I am not sure if it is possible) would be to NOT use VNC at
all and instead do SSH / X11 tunneling. This requires a SSH client and an
Xserver on the MS-Windows machine -- I don't know exactly what that entails,
since I don't use MS-Windows, but I believe both are available. I don't know
what is available for iOS, but openssh is installed by default under MacOS and
iOS is actually the same "under the hood" (both are layered on top of Darwin,
which is a BSD variant).

Phil G

On 07/01/2025 22:21, Nigel Cliffe via groups.io wrote:

WayVNC the Pi side.? Pi documentation is here:

I recommend following it on choice of both settings on the Pi and
their recommended client for accessing the Pi.

There are differences in how the Pi behaves with different VNC
clients,? which may manifest themselves as looking like odd UI behaviour.

- Nigel

------ Original Message ------
From "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>
To "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date 07/01/2025 22:05:18
Subject Re: [jmriusers] Windows behaviour on Ras Pi/Wayland

Actually, just confirmed mine IS WayVNC

Phil G

On 7 Jan 2025, at 22:03, John Bauchiero via groups.io
<john4dhmr@...> wrote:

??? RealVNC on the Pi side.

John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.1
- Java 17.0.11

On Jan 7, 2025, at 4:21???PM, Phil G via groups.io
<phil@...> wrote:

Actually, scratch that

It's RealVNC at the client side, but not 100% sure about the
server(Pi) side - it says "WayVNC"?? But it may still be RealVNC

As I didn't build the image (it's one of Steve Todds) how would I
know which VNC is running??

Phil G

On 07/01/2025 21:15, Phil Grainger wrote:
Currently RealVNC at both "ends"

Phil G

On 07/01/2025 21:07, Nigel Cliffe via groups.io wrote:
Which VNC tool ??? The Raspberry Pi recommended "TigerVNC" or
something
else ?
I've noticed differences in how Raspberry Pi's behave with
different VNC
tools.

- Nigel

------ Original Message ------
?From "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>
To "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date 07/01/2025 20:21:54
Subject [jmriusers] Windows behaviour on Ras Pi/Wayland

Just noticed something odd

I???m running JMRI 5.11.1 on a RasPi

My startup opens a panel window, the WiThrottle window and the
main PanelPro window

If I VNC in and try to minimise ANY window, they all minimise at
once. If I restore one, they all restore together

Any OTHER windows I open during aJMRI session behave
independently (as I???d expect). If I minimise one, ONLY that one
is minimised

Is this really the way it should be working or is it a quirk off
Wayland??

Thanks

Phil G

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Re: Turnout circle transparency is not saved

#238530

Seems odd to offer something that’s not preserved! Maybe an oversight??

I’ll open a request/issue later to have it added

Phil G

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On 8 Jan 2025, at 16:52, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:

?Phil,

The transparency (alpha value) is not retained.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Turnout circle transparency is not saved
Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 10:44 AM

I've just discovered the "transparency" option for filled turnout
circles and it seems to fit my needs perfectly

Except, when I set a particular transparency, it seems to work fine for
the current JMRI session

BUT after a restart of JMRI, I have lost my transparency

And yes, I DID save the changes before I restarted

Is it possible that this is not externalised to the panel file??? I can
see where the circle COLOURS are defined as well as whether the circles
are filled or not (they are) - but no mention of transparency

Phil G

Re: Turnout circle transparency is not saved

#238529

Phil,

The transparency (alpha value) is not retained.

Dave Sand

Show quoted text

----- Original message -----
From: "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] Turnout circle transparency is not saved
Date: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 10:44 AM

I've just discovered the "transparency" option for filled turnout 
circles and it seems to fit my needs perfectly

Except, when I set a particular transparency, it seems to work fine for 
the current JMRI session

BUT after a restart of JMRI, I have lost my transparency

And yes, I DID save the changes before I restarted

Is it possible that this is not externalised to the panel file??? I can 
see where the circle COLOURS are defined as well as whether the circles 
are filled or not (they are) - but no mention of transparency

Phil G

Re: Getting latest decoder definitions vs. JMRI release vs. Java version

#238528

I'm running Azuls JAVA 17 on Windows 8 if that helps.....

Phil G

Show quoted text

On 08/01/2025 16:47, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io wrote:
Could you tell us a little bit more about your PC?

Oracle’s Java 11 might not support your PC, but the Java 11 from some other vendors go back quite far:



Bob


On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:39?AM, Ian W via groups.io <ian@...> wrote:

Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
If there's a way around this, do please tell.
New Year Felicitations
—
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Re: Windows behaviour on Ras Pi/Wayland

#238527

开云体育

WOW, this is SO unpredictable

I wondered if it was a difference between the iOS version of RealVNC and the Windows version (and whether to try TigerVNC on Windows)

BUT

Sometimes single windows can be minimised. Then after a Pi restart, only ALL the windows can be minimised (on Win or iOS). Then after another restart, individual windows are minimisable (maybe)

Looks like either a problem in the WayVNC server or something I can't imagine

And as I ONLY have access to my Pi through VNC, I don't think the VNC server is going to be easy to change

I guess i'm stuck with it

Phil G

On 07/01/2025 22:21, Nigel Cliffe via groups.io wrote:

Show quoted text

WayVNC the Pi side.? Pi documentation is here:?

I recommend following it on choice of both settings on the Pi and their recommended client for accessing the Pi.? ??

There are differences in how the Pi behaves with different VNC clients,? which may manifest themselves as looking like odd UI behaviour.? ? ??

- Nigel

------ Original Message ------

From "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>

To "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

Date 07/01/2025 22:05:18

Subject Re: [jmriusers] Windows behaviour on Ras Pi/Wayland

Actually, just confirmed mine IS WayVNC

Phil G

On 7 Jan 2025, at 22:03, John Bauchiero via groups.io <john4dhmr@...> wrote:

? RealVNC on the Pi side.

John ?Bauchiero

-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX

- JMRI 5.11.1

- Java 17.0.11

On Jan 7, 2025, at 4:21?PM, Phil G via groups.io <phil@...> wrote:

Actually, scratch that

It's RealVNC at the client side, but not 100% sure about the server(Pi) side - it says "WayVNC"?? But it may still be RealVNC

As I didn't build the image (it's one of Steve Todds) how would I know which VNC is running??

Phil G

On 07/01/2025 21:15, Phil Grainger wrote:

Currently RealVNC at both "ends"

Phil G

On 07/01/2025 21:07, Nigel Cliffe via groups.io wrote:

Which VNC tool ??? The Raspberry Pi recommended "TigerVNC" or something
else ?
I've noticed differences in how Raspberry Pi's behave with different VNC
tools.

- Nigel

------ Original Message ------
?From "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...>
To "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date 07/01/2025 20:21:54
Subject [jmriusers] Windows behaviour on Ras Pi/Wayland

Just noticed something odd

I’m running JMRI 5.11.1 on a RasPi

My startup opens a panel window, the WiThrottle window and the main PanelPro window

If I VNC in and try to minimise ANY window, they all minimise at once. If I restore one, they all restore together

Any OTHER windows I open during aJMRI session behave independently (as I’d expect). If I minimise one, ONLY that one is minimised

Is this really the way it should be working or is it a quirk off Wayland??

Thanks

Phil G

Re: Getting latest decoder definitions vs. JMRI release vs. Java version

#238526

Could you tell us a little bit more about your PC?

Oracle’s Java 11 might not support your PC, but the Java 11 from some other vendors go back quite far:



Bob


On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:39?AM, Ian W via groups.io <ian@...> wrote:

Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
If there's a way around this, do please tell.
New Year Felicitations
—
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Turnout circle transparency is not saved

#238525

I've just discovered the "transparency" option for filled turnout circles and it seems to fit my needs perfectly

Except, when I set a particular transparency, it seems to work fine for the current JMRI session

BUT after a restart of JMRI, I have lost my transparency

And yes, I DID save the changes before I restarted

Is it possible that this is not externalised to the panel file??? I can see where the circle COLOURS are defined as well as whether the circles are filled or not (they are) - but no mention of transparency

Phil G

Getting latest decoder definitions vs. JMRI release vs. Java version

#238524

Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?

Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.

If there's a way around this, do please tell.

New Year Felicitations

?

Error 303

#238523

Just installed Decoder Pro v5.10 onto DCC++ Command Station running on an Arduino Mega 2560 with EX Motor Shield 8874.? Arduino attached to a Windows 11 64 bit PC.? Using POM on an isolated piece of track.? Tried reading CV's from loco with Lokshield 5 decoder.

?

Received following message in Decoder pro:

?"Requested operation not implemented in Command Station (303)"

?

Any clues as to what to do next, please?

?

Rgds

?

Joff