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I found a decommissioned TF4 in my spare decoders and made some tests with two LEDs connected to white and yellow leads.
I confirm that contrary to what Digitrax documentation (both 02/02 and 2010 versions) says, 0 is fastest and 7 is slowest values for CV62.
Actually this had been already discussed in this group ( ).

Moreover I also noticed that:
- CV62 controls the effect rate of BOTH white and yellow outputs. These two outputs are also in opposite phase, and I didn't find a way to change this.
- CV63 seems to produce NO change on anything whatsoever.

I can't read the version of this decoder (no motor load connected). I purchased it in 2009 and it was shipped with the 02/02 version of the documentation.
It might be that Digitrax have made some changes to the decoder firmware since the initial documentation publication.

I'll put a note in the TF4 decoder file and on the function pane to avoid having to raise the point again.

Alain LM

Kevin,

Yes, I have already used that process but am wondering why the text
color can't be changed all at once just like the track color. It would
be much faster for sure. Can that feature be added?

Thanks,
Ken

The initial decoder file created in 2005 was set as per Digitrax documentation (0=slowest / 7=fastest).
This was changed in 2008/2009 by Matt Harris. The version comments in the decoder file do not specifically explain this change.

@Matt (I think that you are still around) : do you remember the reason for this change ?

@Brian : do you have the possibility to make some tests with your own set up by temporary changing the values?

Alain LM

I use Memeo backup. This program came with an external hard drive I bought several years ago and I have been quite happy with it. It backs up designated files/folders as they are changed in real time. It is not a resource hog - I don't notice it running in the background. Restoring using Memeo will recreate the file structure, but the files themselves are not hashed so you can copy the backup directly if needed. Multiple backup versions can be kept, but this can quickly turn into a very backup set. I've used the program several times when transferring data between computers.

Agreed it will also do backups and restores across a network.



Martin Ozolins



"Fortune favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur



From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:45
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale - When overkill just
isn't enough, use Ghost.





Greg / Bill and members interested in backups

Norton's Ghost was a great product and I still use it for my backups.
Unfortunately, Norton has now discontinued Norton's Ghost. Company greed
found out that it was a product they could not sell a "renewable
subscription for an annual fee" like their anti-virus software, so they
discontinued it. There are still copies available on ebay and version works
for W 7 and earlier versions of Windows.Depending on the type of hard drive
you use, Western Digital makes their own imaging product that works great
and it is FREE. Nero is another reliable company that makes a great suite of
software products and one of the programs is also an imaging product.


The advantage with Ghost is that you could create a bootable disc in the
event your hard drive went toast. If you backed up your system to an
external drive,( I do not know of any other way) you could install the new
drive and boot with the disc and do a complete restore from your last backup
file. It WAS a great product. Today's method of backing up to a "cloud" is
as risky as posting your social security number on a chat site. If it is not
under your control, someone will find a way to hack into it just like Target
this past Christmas.


Good luck with the backup,
Nick Kulp

I misspoke earlier it isn't the speed table that has difficulty reading but
the volume table, and it's all the Paragon2 decoders. 147-157 are the CV's.



Martin Ozolins

<mailto:mdozolins@...> mdozolins@...

(760)405 4812



"Fortune favors the prepared mind" - Louis Pasteur



From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 08:41
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Re: Broadway Limited Decoder Settings






Ken & Martin;
You are absolutely right. I had a senior moment ( in a hurry with fingers no
doubt ) it should have read
WRITE FULL PAGE , my sincere apology for any inconvenience Martin , that
works everytime for me and is a quick way to get on the road . On my B units
I turn horn volume to zero and turn off horn function .

Cheers

Bill W.

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers]
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Re: Broadway Limited Decoder Settings

Bill W,

If you suspect something isn't being written while other things are
changing, look at the 'CV' tab. This should show if there are CV's not
written and doing a 'write changes' from that tab would be much more
efficient writing those changes. The 'write all sheets' would be extremely
slow for some of these decoders with lots of CV's to work through.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Is it possible that this is related to the serial chipset and you need a new cable.

On His Ride,
Steve

And while no trees were hurt during the production and delivery of the email, a very large number of electrons are now in revolt over being disturbed by my iPad.

On Jun 6, 2014, at 0:45, "Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> wrote:


There are lots of ways that hardware flow control can fail silently: Bad cable connection, USB-serial adapter not implementing the control leads or doing them at a low voltage, driver not implementing them, etc. When that happens, lowering the speed removes (or reduces) the need for flow control and the connection starts working again.

Bob
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Sure enough it's fixed in test. Works perfectly now. :)

Thanks Kevin! ?I will try the latest Jenkins build next week.?

Regards,

Robin

Marshall,

Thanks. ? I don't want the route state to change at startup, ?but yes I could set the sensor states based on the turnout positions. ?This would require duplicating the route logic in the script. ? However it looks like Kevin has fixed the route state initialization, ?so the issue is resolved.?

Regards,?

Robin

Hi

Another free option is redobackup, I have used this to backup windows xp
and 7 both 32 & 64 bit versions, and linux. Very easy to use, just download
the image, burn to cd, boot from the cd and click on the backup button.

Paul


On 6 June 2014 12:16, 'Greg Komar' gkomar@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

Bill,

Ghost is a Norton (now Symantec) product that captures everything on your
boot drive, bit by bit, and is called an “image.”

When your harddrive fails (and it will) you install a new blank harddrive,
and apply the image to it, and your computer now is an exact copy of what
it
was when you created the image.

Formatting, Windows, programs, data, settings, everything that was there
when the image was created. It is called a “bare metal restore.”

I use an older version (v8.3) that only works in DOS. I believe the new
versions can capture a Windows image while Windows is running.

Before capturing a new image, I remove the archive bit from all files on
the
boot drive, thereafter, I run an xcopy batch file daily to backup only
those
files that have changed (those that have the archive bit ‘set’).

I’ve recently retired from computer/network support of in an organization
with 6000+ PC’s, but at home, personally, I’m a bit of a retro-geek, having
only gone to WinXP in 2009.

Greg Komar

gkomar@...

"The only people with whom you should try to get even are those who have
helped you." -- John E. Southard

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From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:43 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale - When overkill just
isn't enough

Greg - What is Ghost and how is it used? - Bill

Amtrak - the ONLY way to fly!

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:35 AM, "'Greg Komar' gkomar@...
[jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Each harddrive in each PC (WinXP) in the house has a second internal drive
that is used as it's backup device.

Backed-up every evening.

Every month, the backup drives are backed up to an external drive via an
e-Sata connection.

Every 3-4 months, the boot drive ("C:") is cloned via Ghost to enable bare
metal restore.

This Ghost image has saved us many times, more from virus attacks than from
harddrive failure.

Picking through all the 'suggestions' and registry entries to remove a
virus
or malware for hours on end isn't my cup of tea.

40 minutes (or less) the boot drive is re-imaged, and the current data
restored.

It may seem a little compulsive, but if I weren't, I probably wouldn't be a
model railroader either..

Greg Komar

gkomar@...

813-453-0997

"Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art." ? Leonardo
da Vinci

_____

From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:43 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale

Time Machine is without a doubt the best set-and-forget backup tool.
However, it alone does not satisfy the requirements of the 3-2-1 rule for
data safety.

I use Time Machine for first-line-of-defence backups, Dropbox for sharing
(the 30 day history is a bonus), a commercial cross-platform Cloud backup
service and periodic archival backups to DVD as well as rotating USB drives
for short-term. (Yes I am a former system administrator in a data centre.)

Unfortunately I have been unable to find a satisfactory Windows equivalent
of Time Machine. I paid quite a bit for one that promised bare-metal
restore
capability like Time Machine but it failed to deliver under test. CrashPlan
(cross-platform) is very good (you can have local, Cloud or remote backups)
but it cannot do bare-metal restores. Otherwise it behaves like Time
Machine. Windows Backup is not in the same league as Time Machine.

There are two types of people; those who have had a hard drive crash and
those who will.

In my current day job (remote support of a testing and data-collection
software package) I tell all our clients that "C:" is for Crash (not my
line, but I like it). We now insist that our clients save data to a
backed-up server if at all possible (less tears on the phone now, prior to
the change of policy data loss was common).

Think about how much time and effort you have put into building all your
JMRI panels, reading all your roster into DP, not to mention those
irreplaceable family and train photographs - can you really afford not to
have a proper backup strategy?

Sent from my iPad
--
Dave in Australia

On 04/06/2014, at 4:32 PM, "up_sbrown@... [jmriusers]"
<jmriusers@...> wrote:

So whilst I agree that DropBox backs up as the items are changed there is

a finite window of recovery of around 30days, yes I too use dropbox as well
as some other cloud tools and like it/them a lot, but I still believe TM to
be viable and non invasive after the initial, and very long, archive set is
built to the point that I recommend if you have the ability to have a spare
HD hanging off your Mac then this is the simplest easiest way to back up
with out having to worry about shifting files into drop box (or other cloud
folder) first before using them. I don't believe the overhead to be
significant during incremental backups and only time I relies it's doing
something is HD platter will spin up and/or see the logo circling in menu
bar.

I am sure there are similar tools available for the windows environment

too and I am a proponent of any back up that requires human interaction
inevitably will be the one thats forgotten, and invariably needed. Also
platter based external HDs are so cheap now it's almost a crime not to back
up too.

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Hi Ken,

The default text colour works for new text items added to the layout editor rather than converting existing items.

To change existing items, right click on the text and either go to "Properties" and you can change the text properties for there. Or if you right click on the text you can select "Edit Font" followed by "Font Color"

Regards
Kevin

On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:27 PM, joecosta2580@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Did an export complete from one machine running 3.6 r24520 (it very nicely asked me what destination --- in my case a USB drive and wrote to the USB drive).


I go to a second machine running 3.6 r24520 and TRY to do an import from the menu and it does NOTHING. No prompt for location, no message, nothing.

It looks like there's a fix for this in JMRI 3.7.2 (which means also in the current test release):



Bob
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

From: mailto:jmriusers@...
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:31 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: [jmriusers] initial state of routes is shown as Unknown?
Robin,

At the club on the staging yard panel, I use sensors to trigger a route. The route would be entering or exiting each track in the yard. So clicking on track 4 enter sensor, for example, triggers a route which throws switch for track 4, closes all other switches and sets all their sensors to INACTIVE.

To initialize the panel when loaded, I use the following script. Maybe it will work for you.

_________________________________________________________________ (don’t put this line in the script file)

# Script to set all turnouts on a panel to the "CLOSED" state.
# It uses the entries in the Turnout Table created by Panel Pro
# The wait time is currently set to 0.5 seconds.

class setStartup(jmri.jmrit.automat.AbstractAutomaton) :
def init(self):
return
def handle(self):
sensorList = ["ISSTG4IN","ISSTG1OUT","ISWI"]
for sensorName in sensorList:
sensors.provideSensor(sensorName).setState(ACTIVE)
return False # all done, don't repeat again
setStartup().start() # create one of these, and start it running

_________________________________________________________________ (don’t put this line in the script file)

If you want the initial state to “inactive” substitute INACTIVE (case matters)
sensorList is a list of the sensors you want to set to a state.


Marshall
Phoenix

Hi. I have a series of Routes, and each one has its own Internal Sensor assigned to “Enter Sensor that Activates when Route Turnouts are correctly aligned”. Each route contains a single Loconet turnout, and the turnout table shows that each Turnout has a known state – either open or closed. However the Sensor associated with each Route is in state Unknown.

If I Set a Route then the associated Sensor will change to Active. If I manually set the turnout in a Route, as I watch the Sensor table the associated Route sensor will change from Unknown to Inactive very briefly and then show Active.

Perhaps there is a timing issue at start up between evaluation of the Route Sensors and completion of the Loconet interrogation sequence that determines the state of the turnouts, or perhaps it is something else. If any case, is there a workaround script that I could run that would cause the state of the Route Sensors to properly initialize?

Thanks.

Robin

Robin Becker

San Diego, CA

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Nick and All,

Use Acronis, it does the same thing, including the Boot Option from a CD/DVD/USB Stick and you can back up to multiple places, including the "cloud" with it if you want. It's cheap, and it has versions for Mac and Linux, as well as Windows, at different pricing levels of course.

James

Greg / Bill and members interested in backups

Norton's Ghost was a great product and I still use it for my backups. Unfortunately, Norton has now discontinued Norton's Ghost. Company greed found out that it was a product they could not sell a "renewable subscription for an annual fee" like their anti-virus software, so they discontinued it. There are still copies available on ebay and version works for W 7 and earlier versions of Windows.Depending on the type of hard drive you use, Western Digital makes their own imaging product that works great and it is FREE. Nero is another reliable company that makes a great suite of software products and one of the programs is also an imaging product.


The advantage with Ghost is that you could create a bootable disc in the event your hard drive went toast. If you backed up your system to an external drive,( I do not know of any other way) you could install the new drive and boot with the disc and do a complete restore from your last backup file. It WAS a great product. Today's method of backing up to a "cloud" is as risky as posting your social security number on a chat site. If it is not under your control, someone will find a way to hack into it just like Target this past Christmas.


Good luck with the backup,
Nick Kulp

Did an export complete from one machine running 3.6 r24520 (it very nicely asked me what destination --- in my case a USB drive and wrote to the USB drive).


I go to a second machine running 3.6 r24520 and TRY to do an import from the menu and it does NOTHING. No prompt for location, no message, nothing.


In all other respects the second machine works perfectly.


So what am I doing wrong?

Ken & Martin;
You are absolutely right. I had a senior moment ( in a hurry with fingers no doubt ) it should have read
WRITE FULL PAGE , my sincere apology for any inconvenience Martin , that works everytime for me and is a quick way to get on the road . On my B units I turn horn volume to zero and turn off horn function .


Cheers

Bill W.

As I continue to build a panel using Layout Editor I would like to change the default text color and there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. I click on Options>Set default text color and pick a color other than the one now checked and the existing text doesn't change but when I click on Options>Set default track color and pick a different one the existing track color does change.

Why doesn't the text color change? How do I change the existing text color?

Thanks,
Ken

Bill,



Ghost is a Norton (now Symantec) product that captures everything on your
boot drive, bit by bit, and is called an “image.”

When your harddrive fails (and it will) you install a new blank harddrive,
and apply the image to it, and your computer now is an exact copy of what it
was when you created the image.

Formatting, Windows, programs, data, settings, everything that was there
when the image was created. It is called a “bare metal restore.”



I use an older version (v8.3) that only works in DOS. I believe the new
versions can capture a Windows image while Windows is running.



Before capturing a new image, I remove the archive bit from all files on the
boot drive, thereafter, I run an xcopy batch file daily to backup only those
files that have changed (those that have the archive bit ‘set’).



I’ve recently retired from computer/network support of in an organization
with 6000+ PC’s, but at home, personally, I’m a bit of a retro-geek, having
only gone to WinXP in 2009.



Greg Komar

gkomar@...

"The only people with whom you should try to get even are those who have
helped you." -- John E. Southard

_____

From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:43 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale - When overkill just
isn't enough





Greg - What is Ghost and how is it used? - Bill


Amtrak - the ONLY way to fly!


On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 9:35 AM, "'Greg Komar' gkomar@...
[jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> wrote:



Each harddrive in each PC (WinXP) in the house has a second internal drive
that is used as it's backup device.

Backed-up every evening.

Every month, the backup drives are backed up to an external drive via an
e-Sata connection.

Every 3-4 months, the boot drive ("C:") is cloned via Ghost to enable bare
metal restore.



This Ghost image has saved us many times, more from virus attacks than from
harddrive failure.

Picking through all the 'suggestions' and registry entries to remove a virus
or malware for hours on end isn't my cup of tea.

40 minutes (or less) the boot drive is re-imaged, and the current data
restored.



It may seem a little compulsive, but if I weren't, I probably wouldn't be a
model railroader either..



Greg Komar

gkomar@...

813-453-0997

"Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art." ? Leonardo
da Vinci

_____


From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:43 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Backups - A Cautionary Tale



Time Machine is without a doubt the best set-and-forget backup tool.
However, it alone does not satisfy the requirements of the 3-2-1 rule for
data safety.

I use Time Machine for first-line-of-defence backups, Dropbox for sharing
(the 30 day history is a bonus), a commercial cross-platform Cloud backup
service and periodic archival backups to DVD as well as rotating USB drives
for short-term. (Yes I am a former system administrator in a data centre.)

Unfortunately I have been unable to find a satisfactory Windows equivalent
of Time Machine. I paid quite a bit for one that promised bare-metal restore
capability like Time Machine but it failed to deliver under test. CrashPlan
(cross-platform) is very good (you can have local, Cloud or remote backups)
but it cannot do bare-metal restores. Otherwise it behaves like Time
Machine. Windows Backup is not in the same league as Time Machine.

There are two types of people; those who have had a hard drive crash and
those who will.

In my current day job (remote support of a testing and data-collection
software package) I tell all our clients that "C:" is for Crash (not my
line, but I like it). We now insist that our clients save data to a
backed-up server if at all possible (less tears on the phone now, prior to
the change of policy data loss was common).

Think about how much time and effort you have put into building all your
JMRI panels, reading all your roster into DP, not to mention those
irreplaceable family and train photographs - can you really afford not to
have a proper backup strategy?
--
Dave in Australia

On 04/06/2014, at 4:32 PM, "up_sbrown@... [jmriusers]"
<jmriusers@...> wrote:

So whilst I agree that DropBox backs up as the items are changed there is

a finite window of recovery of around 30days, yes I too use dropbox as well
as some other cloud tools and like it/them a lot, but I still believe TM to
be viable and non invasive after the initial, and very long, archive set is
built to the point that I recommend if you have the ability to have a spare
HD hanging off your Mac then this is the simplest easiest way to back up
with out having to worry about shifting files into drop box (or other cloud
folder) first before using them. I don't believe the overhead to be
significant during incremental backups and only time I relies it's doing
something is HD platter will spin up and/or see the logo circling in menu
bar.

I am sure there are similar tools available for the windows environment

too and I am a proponent of any back up that requires human interaction
inevitably will be the one thats forgotten, and invariably needed. Also
platter based external HDs are so cheap now it's almost a crime not to back
up too.


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