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Locked Re: New Hornby TTS Decoder

 

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Hi Marc,

I have the paper copy that came with the decoder, is that any good? If so I can scan it.

Eve

On 17 Sep 2019, at 17:03, forfoum@... wrote:

Trying to find any details regarding R7143 TTS decoder (class 7MT, Britannia) on the Hornby web site turns up nothing re CV listing.?

Without? this data, the author can not write up or add this decoder to the definitions.

Brian Jackson has been adding the Hornby decoders to the definiton since 2018 but I can not find a post from him in this forum.

Marc

Locked Re: MRC Prodigy Advance Error

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Bob,

I will for sure let you know, hopefully by the end of the week, as I am on a few days stretch for work.

Thank you again for all the help.

Ken
Locked VSD CLASS 64 COASTING WEIRDNESS

 

Strange coasting behavior.? Boy, this took a while to decipher.

With the JMRI throttle no coasting regardless on slider action.? Nada, nil, zip!

With Digitrax DT400R throttle coasting works with semi-rapid decrease in throttle, including brake_short.wav when coasting to a stop (step 0).? However, if not going to step zero, coasting sounds remain on until a one step increase in throttle (say 12 to 13).? Decreasing (say 12 to 11 or any amount) has no effect.? Always need a one step increase to get back to engine sounds.? When in coasting "state"? the coasting sounds are responding to decreases in throttle.? I assume this to be related to driver rpms.? When step 3 is reached loco goes to idle_sound.wav.? NOTE: Digitrax "steps" are displayed throttle numbers (1 to 100).

With Engine Driver Wi-throttle maybe a coast once in a while but usually jumps and/or? "notch" lock-ups, or a complete engine silence at any throttle setting (just idle sound).? When this happens (silence), other functions work but no reset with engine start/stop.? Only way to reset is to delete loco then, with decoder manager >> add decoder then select a profile? >> Class64.

Takeaway - Coasting is a very nice VSD?sound effect for steam locos.? This implementation sounds great but I think it needs to be understood that it doesn't have deceleration built in.? One has to manually decrease the throttle to zero to come to a complete stop.? Or give a slight uptick in the throttle to keep on going at a lower speed.

?Are there any solutions for the JMRI and Wi-Throttle problems?

Conrad
Locked Re: Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts #layouteditor

 

Peter,

Select "Options >> Show Help Bar in Edit Mode" from the Layout Editor menu. ?This will show the key and mouse actions based on your operating system.

Dave Sand



On Sep 17, 2019, at 2:21 AM, peter.s.drury via Groups.Io <peter.s.drury@...> wrote:

Thank you for your reply Dave. I cannot find a way of selecting and dragging the end points. In the Help files it talks about using a META key but I have?tried several keys CTRL ALT Fn but these do not seem to help.
Best wishes
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Sand
Sent: 17 September 2019 07:20
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts

Peter,

The length and angle of turnout, slip, and level crossing legs can be changed by dragging the end points.

For you scenario I place the turnout and the slip on the panel and connect the related end points with the required track segment. ?I then drag the?turnout diverging leg and the related slip leg until they look good. ?I normally draw track plans with 45? angles on everything so I use the grid to position?the objects and their end points.

Dave Sand



On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:58 AM, peter.s.drury via Groups.Io <peter.s.drury@...> wrote:

I am having great difficulty in connecting the above objects. How do I get the alignment of the turnout diverging route to match that of the slip? The?angles of the diverging lines wrt their through routes is different.
Locked New Hornby TTS Decoder

 

Hi,

I’m new to JMRI , so if I’ve not asked my question according to a specific protocol, please forgive me. I’ve successfully installed and used Decoder Pro and have been very impressed with it.

I am using JMRI installed on a Macbook Pro connected to an NCE Power Pro.

However I have tried unsuccessfully to find a Hornby TTS decoder for a Britannia (R7143) listed in the program, has anybody got such a file please? This is a recently added decoder from Hornby.

Kind Regards,

Eve Wallis
Locked Re: MRC Prodigy Advance Error

 

There are installers here:



that I hope will fix this. I’d appreciate hearing whether it did or not.

Bob
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Locked Re: Detection in JRMI with NCE Accessories

 

Dave in PA,


On 17 Sep 2019, at 4:45 PM, Video7105 <video7105@...> wrote:

Thanks Dave, Ken and Dick
So my problem is the use and definition of the word GND.
Yes.

Where as the GND for the AIU comes from the Control Bus?
It's actually the Cab Bus (the 6 way socket on the Power Pro) that connects throttles, AIUs, Mini Panels etc. to the Command Station.

NCE uses the term Control Bus (the 4 way socket on the Power Pro) for the connection between the Command Station and Booster(s).

The GND on the BD20’s comes from where, the AIU board?
Yes, the specific AIU board that BD20 is connected to.

And
The external power connection for the Switch8 MK2 GND comes from the negative of the wall wart?
Yes.

Is this the correct scenario ?
Yes, with a slight correction of terminology.

P.S. The Accessory Bus is the term used for a specific DCC signal bus reserved for accessory decoders only. It is usually separated from the Track DCC bus by a circuit breaker or on a separate booster. The reason is so that a track short will not disable the accessory decoders needed to change the turnouts to clear the short.

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: VSD Transponder Question #vsdecoder

 

Hi Klaus,

Thanks a lot :-)

I will have a look at both these examples they will make it much easier for me
to try to accomplish what I want :-)

Best Regards
P?r
Locked Re: VSD Transponder Question #vsdecoder

 

You're welcome, P?r!

I uploaded a variant of the script (SensorTransponding.py).

Both scripts work for me in JMRI simulator mode. Please check the line endings, if you are not running Windows.

The sound positions can be maintained in "Manage VSD Locations".

But I prefer to load the data at JMRI start up. To give you an example I uploaded two more files: Reporters.xml and VSDGeodata.xml.
On PanelPro go to Edit >> Preferences >> Start Up and add an "Open File" action for Reporters.xml. After a JMRI restart you should find your data on "Manage VSD Locations".

The documentation is on .

Regards,
Klaus


Am 17.09.2019 um 08:16 schrieb P?r Ekstrand:

Hi Klaus,
Thanks a lot for the swift reply !
Best Regards
P?r
Locked Re: Image index not loading?

 

I have the same problem. Although the catalogTrees.xml file is created, the image index is lost between sessions.

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Locked Re: Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts #layouteditor

 

Thank you for your reply Dave. I cannot find a way of selecting and dragging the end points. In the Help files it talks about using a META key but I have tried several keys CTRL ALT Fn but these do not seem to help.
Best wishes
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave Sand
Sent: 17 September 2019 07:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts

Peter,

The length and angle of turnout, slip, and level crossing legs can be changed by dragging the end points.

For you scenario I place the turnout and the slip on the panel and connect the related end points with the required track segment. I then drag the turnout diverging leg and the related slip leg until they look good. I normally draw track plans with 45? angles on everything so I use the grid to position the objects and their end points.

Dave Sand



On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:58 AM, peter.s.drury via Groups.Io <peter.s.drury@...> wrote:

I am having great difficulty in connecting the above objects. How do I get the alignment of the turnout diverging route to match that of the slip? The angles of the diverging lines wrt their through routes is different.
Locked Re: Detection in JRMI with NCE Accessories

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Thanks Dave, Ken and Dick
So my problem is the use and definition of the word GND.?

Where as the GND for the AIU comes from the Control Bus?

The GND on the BD20’s comes from where, the AIU board?

And

The external power connection for the Switch8 MK2 GND comes from the negative of the wall wart?

Is this the correct scenario ?

Thanks?
Dave?
In PA

Sent from iPhone Xs Max

On Sep 16, 2019, at 22:00, dick bronson via Groups.Io <dick@...> wrote:

Dave,

Part of the problem is that different people use the term GND differently. In this case we mean the common return for whatever switches or detectors are being monitored by the AIU. We do NOT mean earth ground nor even some master power supply ground. The AIU itself has a terminal labeled GND. That is the place that any switches or detectors should to be referenced to, and no other. Where the AIU gets its power makes no difference.

You can get by sometimes with connecting the switch commons to other places, (also probably labeled GND and even connected together) but sooner or later you will have mysterious issues with no logical explanations.

It may seem neater to use a single ground connection to every switch on a panel, or every Tortoise in a yard, or every .... whatever, but electrically that is not usually the best option.

The 'Loop' we are talking about is the loop of wire starting at the input board (e.g. some AIU) going out to a contact and then returning to the same input board as the sensed line. That 'loop' or circuit should not include (as in surround, or go around, or be common with) any other wiring. (especially any track feeders or AC power)

In sensitive situations this means that every signal should be fed by its own pair of wires. In the case of an AIU or similar input board using a single common line for all 7 (or 14) sensors is not likely to cause issues as long as they run along the same path or in the same cable because it has internal noise suppression and some hysteresis.

Dick :)

On 9/16/2019 8:48 PM, Video7105 wrote:
Thank Dave for the link and further advise. ?The GND in question has no relationship to the layout, since it’s powered by a wall wart only.?

Maybe my designation of Assy. Bus is what may be confusing. ?I have a yellow and white running around the layout, that is powered by the wall wart only and has no connection to the DCC System.?

My GND’s to my BD20/AIU/Ext. Power for Switch8 MK2 panels, comes from the negative side of the wall wart.?

It seems am having a problem understanding where the AIU GND should come from to start with, if not like like I have it.?

The positive side of the wall wart goes to my + connection on the BD20’s, in case I even decide to use it and the + side on the external power supply for the Switch8 MK2. No positive goes to the AIU, from the wall wart

If wrong, I have way to much invested in burning equipment up.?

Where is the suggested GND, for these panels, suggested to be obtain?

Thanks
Dave
In PA

Sent from iPhone Xs Max

On Sep 16, 2019, at 17:49, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:

Dave,

On 17 Sep 2019, at 2:51 AM, Video7105 <video7105@...> wrote:

Since the switches inside the tortoise are isolated, where is the GND Loop supposively happening at?

The three wires connected to pins 5, 6 & 7 need to go directly to the AIU GND terminal and two input pins of the AIU. They should be routed close together and preferably lightly twisted together.

The GND connection between pin 5 and the AIU GND terminal must not be made via any bus ground. Multiple Tortoises position switches must not use a shared ground back to the AIU GND.

To do otherwise invites false triggering of the AIU inputs.

The email from Dick Bronson (principal of RRCirKits) is here:

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts #layouteditor

 

Peter,

The length and angle of turnout, slip, and level crossing legs can be changed by dragging the end points.

For you scenario I place the turnout and the slip on the panel and connect the related end points with the required track segment. I then drag the turnout diverging leg and the related slip leg until they look good. I normally draw track plans with 45? angles on everything so I use the grid to position the objects and their end points.

Dave Sand

On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:58 AM, peter.s.drury via Groups.Io <peter.s.drury@...> wrote:

I am having great difficulty in connecting the above objects. How do I get the alignment of the turnout diverging route to match that of the slip? The angles of the diverging lines wrt their through routes is different.
Locked Re: VSD Transponder Question #vsdecoder

 

Hi Klaus,

Thanks a lot for the swift reply !

Best Regards
P?r
Locked Layout editor - connecting slips to turnouts #layouteditor

 

I am having great difficulty in connecting the above objects. How do I get the alignment of the turnout diverging route to match that of the slip? The angles of the diverging lines wrt their through routes is different.
Locked Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands

 

Thomas,

On 17 Sep 2019, at 1:46 PM, Tom Cain <atsf93@...> wrote:

Where do I select Monitoring in JMRI? Is it a drop down menu item? In my turnouts table I see a ‘check box' called “show feedback information” but it did nothing.
You're nearly there. That checkbox should add some extra columns to the table. The ones you are most interested are Feedback and Mode.

For each and every Turnout in the table, (in the MODE column) you need to select MONITORING.

As you do each one, the "Unknown" in the Feedback column should change to the state as known to the Power Pro.

Don't forget to save your panel after making these changes.

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands

 

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Dave,

Where do I select Monitoring in JMRI? ?Is it a drop down menu item? ?In my turnouts table I see a ‘check box' called “show feedback information” but it did nothing. ?I’m guessing that this is for connections with an AIU board. ?

The reference in the manual on CONTROLLING TURNOUTS AND OTHER ACCESSORIES describes how I have been using the hammerhead to set turnouts on the layout for years, but using it in that manner does not provide any change to the Panel Pro Panel. ?Yes, it shows what happened on the LCD readout of the hammerhead throttle but not the Panel Pro Panel.

I’m confident that you’ll get me there most likely in the next email. ?:-)

Thomas Cain
Indianapolis, IN
Modeling the Eastern Illinois Santa Fe from the Prototype
See my?NEW?website and layout at: ?
Locked Re: PR3 Power supply

 

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:46 AM, Tom Cain wrote:
I would recommend going against adding more voltage to the layout just to facilitate program track programming. ?That would be putting everything else you have at greater risk of damage.

Tom,

?The PR3 is a combination LocoNet to PC interface and *stand-alone* programmer. Using a 16-18VDC power supply with it does NOT "add more voltage to the layout".

Steve
"Breezlys"
Locked Re: Feedback to Panel for NCE throttle commands

 

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Thomas,

On 17 Sep 2019, at 12:10 PM, Tom Cain <atsf93@...> wrote:

I’m not sure from your note as to where Monitoring is done, JMRI or NCE.

The NCE command station monitors the last-commanded state of each of the 2048 possible accessory addresses and stores that in non-volatile memory.

This covers throttle commands, NCE macros, Mini Panel commands and JMRI commands via the serial interface.

When you select MONITORING in JMRI, JMRI regularly checks the contents of that table and updates panels.

My DCC command station is the NCE PH Pro 5 amp system not the NCE Powerhouse Pro,

Same product. NCE changed the name!

so does that mean I don’t have the capability to monitor the turnouts thrown from the Hammerhead throttle?

You are good to go.


I just looked through my NCE Owners Manual and did not find anything about Monitoring.

You will find a subtle reference in the manual:

CONTROLLING TURNOUTS AND OTHER ACCESSORIES

NOW= NORM or REV - The command station keeps a database of the last accessory
(turnout) commands sent for all accessory addresses. The bottom line of SELECT ACCY
prompt on the Pro Cab LCD reflects the current status of the accessory.

A convenience feature has been added. Pressing SEL ACCY twice at the SEL ACCY
prompt will toggle (reverse) the position of the current accessory.

That's all. We know the memory address of that table and JMRI can read it and utilise the contents.

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: PR3 Power supply

 

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In the past someone suggested old laptop power supply.?

I have one that works great for me. ?Fits the PS3 or 4 perfectly

Kurt Konrath


On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:06 PM, forfoum@... wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 06:37 PM, Alex Greig wrote:
Hi there, I have had similar problems with my PR4. Can anyone suggest the best product to use as the power supply and the PS14 jack on the PR4?
Or alternatively an adaptor between standard chargers and the jack on the PR4?
Not sure what you are asking.but here is my interpretation.

The plug end of the Digitrax PS14 DC power connector? is 5.5? x? 2.1mm . 5.5 is barrel diam . 2.1 is the PIN diam.

Neat trick from Digikey. A round tooth pic is 2.1/2.2mm diam. If you stick the tooth pic in the pin hole of DC connector and it is held in place,? the tip is 2.1mm.? If the tooth pic falls out easily,? it is a 2.5mm pin.

Marc

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