Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
Chris, Two issues to be aware of when using the 13-pin DIN ACC input:
- The audio input on pin 11 is much more sensitive (100 mv.) than the DATA connector.? Even with good ferrite chokes on the cable, it is susceptible to picking up RFI, which distorts the audio, especially when used in portable operation with less than ideal antennas and station grounding.? The solution is to put a 68K resistor in series with pin 11 inside the DIN connector shell.? This increases the audio input level closer to 2 volts, which decreases the effects of any RFI and also makes level adjustment less touchy with most sources.? This is especially important for SCS Pactor units.
- When using the ACC port, its audio input on pin 11 goes to the same input bus as the external mic connectors on the front and rear panels.? If a mic is plugged into either port any noise in the room picked up by the mic will be mixed with the data audio, causing data errors at the receiving station.? The only solution is to always unplug the mic's when using a digital mode via ACC.? The DATA port does not have this problem.
Steve, W3AHL
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
Hey Chris,
I am using the 13-pin cable... with the West Mountain P&P.... you will be fine. Your time has value - the pre-tested cables are generally well worth the cost.
On the rare occasion that I found that I was unable to get TX, it was always associated with one of two things - either I was not on USB (some other mode), or I had the wrong audio sink selected (I use Win11/10, Linux, and macOS). I generate CW from the normal key line / rig jack on the rear apron.
73's,
Glenn
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Maness Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 1:24 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL It is probably something like the TX audio pin is not engaging the socket then. The cable works fine on my FT-817, but no joy on the FT-7000. That is why this problem was very frustrating to figure out. I just broke down and ordered another digirig and DIN 13 cable. I like to have all of the radios "fixins'" with it in a go kit. That get's expensive, but there is nothing worse than grabbing a box or a bag thinking you have everything you need only to find out you don't out in the field. That is why if I am taking a road trip and operating from the car I take a couple of different systems. If I forget something, or if some part of the chain breaks, I have another setup to fall to. At least that is my excuse :D Thanks es 73 de Chris KQ6UP On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:08?AM John Denison <kd5you@...> wrote:
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Chris I just connected my Digirig to my IC-7000 via the 6 Pin DIN plug and it keyed up the radio just fine while using VARA HF. I monitored the audio on my HT and the audio was transmitted as well.
I do not have the CAT cable for the IC-7000 so I had to specify the com port in the optional transmitting section of the VARA setup. In my case it was COM10.
The 6 PIN DIN plugs are typically wired the same way on every radio, but HF only radios typically don't have the 9600 pin wired, or they use that pin for something else. Radios with 2 meters & 70 cm including all modes would or should have the 9600 pin wired for 9600.
Sorry I could not help any more, but hopefully you get it going.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
-- Thanks, Chris Maness
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
It is probably something like the TX audio pin is not engaging the
socket then. The cable works fine on my FT-817, but no joy on the
FT-7000. That is why this problem was very frustrating to figure out.
I just broke down and ordered another digirig and DIN 13 cable. I
like to have all of the radios "fixins'" with it in a go kit. That
get's expensive, but there is nothing worse than grabbing a box or a
bag thinking you have everything you need only to find out you don't
out in the field. That is why if I am taking a road trip and
operating from the car I take a couple of different systems. If I
forget something, or if some part of the chain breaks, I have another
setup to fall to. At least that is my excuse :D
Thanks es 73 de Chris KQ6UP
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:08?AM John Denison <kd5you@...> wrote:
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Chris I just connected my Digirig to my IC-7000 via the 6 Pin DIN plug and it keyed up the radio just fine while using VARA HF. I monitored the audio on my HT and the audio was transmitted as well.
I do not have the CAT cable for the IC-7000 so I had to specify the com port in the optional transmitting section of the VARA setup. In my case it was COM10.
The 6 PIN DIN plugs are typically wired the same way on every radio, but HF only radios typically don't have the 9600 pin wired, or they use that pin for something else. Radios with 2 meters & 70 cm including all modes would or should have the 9600 pin wired for 9600.
Sorry I could not help any more, but hopefully you get it going.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Chris Maness
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
Chris I just connected my Digirig to my IC-7000 via the 6 Pin DIN plug and it keyed up the radio just fine while using VARA HF. I monitored the audio on my HT and the audio was transmitted as well.
I do not have the CAT cable for the IC-7000 so I had to specify the com port in the optional transmitting section of the VARA setup. In my case it was COM10.
The 6 PIN DIN plugs are typically wired the same way on every radio, but HF only radios typically don't have the 9600 pin wired, or they use that pin for something else. Radios with 2 meters & 70 cm including all modes would or should have the 9600 pin wired for 9600.
Sorry I could not help any more, but hopefully you get it going.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
You're welcome Chris. Ironically I had the opposite issue with a Signalink USB and the 13 PIN DIN plug. I had to go with the 6 PIN DIN plug. While I have both the IC-7000 and a DIgirig with both 1200 and 9600 baud cables, I'll see if I can figure out what went wrong.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
Hi In the past I have used a ZLP interface with the same 6 way cable on both the? ft 817 and the ic 7000 and it worked well, Dave 2E0DMB
The radio was set correctly.? My understanding is that all the radios
that take the 6 pin mini DIN connectors were wired the same way.? I
guess not.? I was able to use that port out of my SCS Pactor III modem
just fine (so it is not the radio settings).? The cable from my
Digirig to my FT-817 is one of those same cables, but it does not
play.? That is ok, I have purchased a whole separate digirig device
with the 13 pin DIN cables, and I suspect that will work ok.? These
arrive Saturday.
Thanks for letting me know about that menu setting (it was already set
correctly), but I did not know what that menu item did.? Now I do.
73 de Chris KQ6UP
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 7:08?AM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
>
> I would have thought that HSEND would need to be keyed for the HF digital port to work. Perhaps the pinout on the plug is mis-connected.
> I used a signalink USB quite a bit with my IC-7000.
> I thought about the ALE with the IC-7000 but listening to the relays click with each band change made me think better of that.
> With ALE I would choose a radio with PIN diode band switching.
> I don't have the IC-7000 manual on this computer to look at the pinouts to see how likely a wiring error might be, but I know that the radio should work with one of the many digital interfaces, including home made for $10.00.
>
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Thanks,
Chris Maness
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
The radio was set correctly. My understanding is that all the radios
that take the 6 pin mini DIN connectors were wired the same way. I
guess not. I was able to use that port out of my SCS Pactor III modem
just fine (so it is not the radio settings). The cable from my
Digirig to my FT-817 is one of those same cables, but it does not
play. That is ok, I have purchased a whole separate digirig device
with the 13 pin DIN cables, and I suspect that will work ok. These
arrive Saturday.
Thanks for letting me know about that menu setting (it was already set
correctly), but I did not know what that menu item did. Now I do.
73 de Chris KQ6UP
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On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 7:08?AM J.D. Barron <jeter.d.barron@...> wrote:
I would have thought that HSEND would need to be keyed for the HF digital port to work. Perhaps the pinout on the plug is mis-connected.
I used a signalink USB quite a bit with my IC-7000.
I thought about the ALE with the IC-7000 but listening to the relays click with each band change made me think better of that.
With ALE I would choose a radio with PIN diode band switching.
I don't have the IC-7000 manual on this computer to look at the pinouts to see how likely a wiring error might be, but I know that the radio should work with one of the many digital interfaces, including home made for $10.00.
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Thanks,
Chris Maness
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
I would have thought that HSEND would need to be keyed for the HF digital port to work. Perhaps the pinout on the plug is mis-connected.?
I used a signalink USB quite a bit with my IC-7000.
I thought about the ALE with the IC-7000 but listening to the relays click with each band change made me think better of that.
With ALE I would choose a radio with PIN diode band switching.
I don't have the IC-7000 manual on this computer to look at the pinouts to see how likely a wiring error might be, but I know that the radio should work with one of the many digital interfaces, including home made for $10.00.
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
Thanks, that is what I was wondering.? A setting.
-73 KQ6UP? Thanks,
Chris Maness
-Sent from my iPhone
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:11 PM John Denison < kd5you@...> wrote: I had to set VSEND to On in order to use the 6 pin DIN plug for HF.
In set mode, punch the OTH button and go to item #20. Set it to On and see if that works.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
I had to set VSEND to On in order to use the 6 pin DIN plug for HF.
In set mode, punch the OTH button and go to item #20. Set it to On and see if that works.
73
John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
Hi Chris,
I have a older v1.5 DigiRig but the pinout at the radio end should be identical with anything.
Here is a PDF diagram
Let me know if that helps.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-000-0609
SKCC 14257
From: "Christopher Maness" <christopher.maness@...> To: "ic7000" < [email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 6:50:03 AM Subject: Re: [ic7000] No TX audio on JS8CALL
I am going to resurrect this dead thread.? I am having the same problem here.? ?I have digirig (verified working with an FT-817).? I can RX audio no problem, but I am not getting any modulation out no matter what the setting is.? I am using a separate CAT cable and the 6 pin mini din connector from the digirig.? Is there a setting that I need to enable on the IC-700 to get this to work on USB data HF mode?? Is this port only for FM packet?? Any help would be appreciated.? I am trying to get this thing running on ALE.
I guess I can try to purchase the digirig IC-7000 13 Pin DIN and see if that fixes it, but if the radio has an issue I would like to send it in to Scott.? It needs a new memory battery anyhow, and that is a solder in rechargeable job.
Thanks?
Chris KQ6UP DM14
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Hello, this is Chris KQ6UP.? I have my IC-7k since 2006.? This thing has taken' a licken' and it keeps on tickin'.
I have some questions about the 6 pin DIN in the back.? I don't seem to be getting any transmitter power out using a known good interface.? Suggestions?
-Chris KQ6UP
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Re: No TX audio on JS8CALL
I am going to resurrect this dead thread.? I am having the same problem here.? ?I have digirig (verified working with an FT-817).? I can RX audio no problem, but I am not getting any modulation out no matter what the setting is.? I am using a separate CAT cable and the 6 pin mini din connector from the digirig.? Is there a setting that I need to enable on the IC-700 to get this to work on USB data HF mode?? Is this port only for FM packet?? Any help would be appreciated.? I am trying to get this thing running on ALE.
I guess I can try to purchase the digirig IC-7000 13 Pin DIN and see if that fixes it, but if the radio has an issue I would like to send it in to Scott.? It needs a new memory battery anyhow, and that is a solder in rechargeable job.
Thanks?
Chris KQ6UP DM14
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Re: IC-7000 + Rigblaster Advantage + HRD
Hello Glen
Thanks for your response.?
This is exactly what I'm looking for.?
I'll give it a go and let you know how I get on.?
73s
Don - M0CVZ
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Hi Don,
I have a RIGblaster PnP that I use with the 7K.
In my case, I chose to use a separate USB cable for the CI-V, and then used the 13-pin cable adapter (from the RIGblaster) for the auxiliary port on the 7K.? There is also a cable you will need if you intend to use CW.? The cables are inexpensive.
Cables for RIGblasters -
Hook Up Diagrams for RIGblasters - IC7K -
My extra cable - for Linux / macOS
?(CI-V
cable)
RT Systems Programming Software / Cable (I use this all the time, alternative to the Valley Enterprises cable
(I use that cable on a 706Mk2g):
In my case, the need for two cables was because I use not only Windows (10/11), but?also Linux and macOS (and there was not a port-splitter software like the Windows driver from West Mountain).
I love the IC7K and RIGblaster - all digital modes and CW.
73's,
Glenn
WA6BJQ
Good evening all
I have scoured the forum but cannot find a definitive solution to my problem.... forgive me if this has already been covered and I missed it.
I have a 7k and want to interface it with a Rigblaster Advantage, to be controlled by HRD, but I am stumped in regards to what cable to use, from the 7k, to the Rigblaster Advantage.
I have seen a mono to stereo cable as well as a 6 pin Din plug being mentioned on the Internet but the dew posts I have read are somewhat cryptic.
Both the 7k and the Rigbladter Advsntage are recent addition to my shack and any help getting them interfaced with each other will be greatly appreciated.
My main rig is the 7300 so this a new realm for me.
73s
Don - M0CVZ
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Re: IC-7000 + Rigblaster Advantage + HRD
Hi Don,
I have a RIGblaster PnP that I use with the 7K.
In my case, I chose to use a separate USB cable for the CI-V, and then used the 13-pin cable adapter (from the RIGblaster) for the auxiliary port on the 7K.? There is also a cable you will need if you intend to use CW.? The cables are inexpensive.
Cables for RIGblasters -
Hook Up Diagrams for RIGblasters - IC7K -
My extra cable - for Linux / macOS
?(CI-V
cable)
RT Systems Programming Software / Cable (I use this all the time, alternative to the Valley Enterprises
cable (I use that cable on a 706Mk2g):
In my case, the need for two cables was because I use not only Windows (10/11), but?also Linux and macOS (and there was not a port-splitter software like the Windows driver from West Mountain).
I love the IC7K and RIGblaster - all digital modes and CW.
73's,
Glenn
WA6BJQ
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Good evening all
I have scoured the forum but cannot find a definitive solution to my problem.... forgive me if this has already been covered and I missed it.
I have a 7k and want to interface it with a Rigblaster Advantage, to be controlled by HRD, but I am stumped in regards to what cable to use, from the 7k, to the Rigblaster Advantage.
I have seen a mono to stereo cable as well as a 6 pin Din plug being mentioned on the Internet but the dew posts I have read are somewhat cryptic.
Both the 7k and the Rigbladter Advsntage are recent addition to my shack and any help getting them interfaced with each other will be greatly appreciated.
My main rig is the 7300 so this a new realm for me.
73s
Don - M0CVZ
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IC-7000 + Rigblaster Advantage + HRD
Good evening all
I have scoured the forum but cannot find a definitive solution to my problem.... forgive me if this has already been covered and I missed it.
I have a 7k and want to interface it with a Rigblaster Advantage, to be controlled by HRD, but I am stumped in regards to what cable to use, from the 7k, to the Rigblaster Advantage.
I have seen a mono to stereo cable as well as a 6 pin Din plug being mentioned on the Internet but the dew posts I have read are somewhat cryptic.
Both the 7k and the Rigbladter Advsntage are recent addition to my shack and any help getting them interfaced with each other will be greatly appreciated.
My main rig is the 7300 so this a new realm for me.
73s
Don - M0CVZ
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Re: IC-7000 Hsend Vsend not going to ground
John N0JA,
????????????? H Send is on pin 3, V Send is on pin 7. 14 volts
is on pin 8. The Send line is switched by a relay between H Send and V send.
However, Send is switched to ground by a single 2SD1623 NPN transistor. It’s
rated to sink 2 amps but I doubt that the entire circuit will do much more than
1 amp for very long.
Don’t forget ground on pin 2.
That often trips up people. They put the probes on the chassis but ground is
open to the ACCY connector. All of the lines are protected by surface mounted
chokes that kind of act like fuses. Sometimes they actually work, sometimes not
so much. If you shorted pin 8 to pin 3, it really shouldn’t have done anything
unless you switched into transmit. Then there might be a problem with those
circuits.
When you say you measure -4
volts, where do you have the ground probe connected? That’s an odd number and I’m
thinking ground is missing. Most of the components are on the exposed side of
the DDS unit so you shouldn’t have too much trouble tracking them down.
?
Thank You
?
Paul W. Hansen, W6XA
Amateur Radio Service
2134 Carthage Road
Tucker, GA 30084
(864) 222-3539
www.amateurradioservice.com
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Robinson
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 00:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ic7000] IC-7000 Hsend Vsend not going to ground
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Maybe you are expecting the circuit to do too much. I used
an external device to switch my amps on my 706, similar design. Don’t know what
you are doing with the send lines so no offense please. Just a wag.
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I managed to kill Hsend and Vsend on My IC-7000 maybe by
shorting the 13.8 V on pin 8 to pin 3 on the 13 pin accessory plug.? Pin 3
and pin 8 show around -4 volts on both receive and transmit.? Has anyone
had to repair this problem?? What is involved in the repair?
Sent this IC-7000 to MI Icom repair service he pronounced it working.?
Still does not work!? Sent to him twice explaining in detail my problem He
could not find the problem and sent it back.? Sent to Toledo MTS same
result? Both are/were ICOM techs repair centers.? There must be some
standard testing procedure from ICOM that is not showing my problem.?
Help!
John, N0JA
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Re: IC-7000 Hsend Vsend not going to ground
Maybe you are expecting the circuit to do too much. I used an external device to switch my amps on my 706, similar design. Don’t know what you are doing with the send lines so no offense please. Just a wag.
[Edited Message Follows]
I managed to kill Hsend and Vsend on My IC-7000 maybe by shorting the 13.8 V on pin 8 to pin 3 on the 13 pin accessory plug.? Pin 3 and pin 8 show around -4 volts on both receive and transmit.? Has anyone had to repair this problem?? What is involved in the repair?
Sent this IC-7000 to MI Icom repair service he pronounced it working.? Still does not work!? Sent to him twice explaining in detail my problem He could not find the problem and sent it back.? Sent to Toledo MTS same result.? Both are/were ICOM techs repair centers.? There must be some standard testing procedure from ICOM that is not showing my problem.? Help!
John, N0JA
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Re: Mobile Installation RF shutting down radio - Fixed one choke before head.
Had the same setup installed in my 2001 dodge ram of course different animal never had any issue. Also have the 6” Hi Q and it kicks butt with my home brew back in college
SS kw amp
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Steve Murphy
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2023 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ic7000] Mobile Installation RF shutting down radio - Fixed one choke before head.
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Nice! Glad you figured it out. The 7000 is a great radio but they are sensitive to stray RF and low voltage.
Have fun with that kW!?? ; )
73 de KC4SM
Had other chokes wrapped it once through before the head and whala!! Problem fixed and 1KW out on all bands!
Thanks for all the replies and taking the time.
73-
W1JCW
John
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Re: Mobile Installation RF shutting down radio - Fixed one choke before head.
Nice! Glad you figured it out. The 7000 is a great radio but they are sensitive to stray RF and low voltage.
Have fun with that kW!?? ; )
73 de KC4SM
Oct 15, 2023 1:30:06 PM W1JCW <w1jcw@...>:
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Had other chokes wrapped it once through before the head and whala!! Problem fixed and 1KW out on all bands!
Thanks for all the replies and taking the time.
73-
W1JCW
John
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Steve W3AHL
Glenn Jensen
Danny K5CG
m0cvz - Don