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Re: Outback/Outreach combination

Brian Frobisher
 

I own an outbacker + and am interested in purchasing the tripod.

Approx how much and who sells it?

Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: W4JZ@...
To: FT817@...
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: [FT817] Outback/Outreach combination


I have the Outback Outreach and Alpha Delta tripod. Yes expensive,
like N4ZCG said, but what a performer!

The tripod will work with any mobile antenna that is looking for a 50
ohm load. The guys that made that tripod did a excellent job. I
have used several different makes of antennas, besides Outback, and
they all worked great with the Alpha Delta. The tripod has to be on
earth ground or you will need to add a counterpose.

I did a number of comparisons with tripod/Outreach and my Gap 80-10
meter vertical. Gap beat it by only 1 S unit on 20 meters. Antennas
were 100 feet apart and using electronic antenna switch to do the
switching.

I wonder how a High Sierra antenna might do with the Alpha Delta?

73s,
Reed W4JZ


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Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted! - The circuit

 

--- In FT817@y..., Christian.Frankl@t... wrote:
Hello Ham Operators!
Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
Thank you for writing back!

Chris, DL6RDM
Yes -

To make a CT-62 yourself (I disassembled and reverse engineered a
real CT-62 and copied it using a MAX-232 chip with N4IP on the #AMSAT
IRC a couple of months back). Yaesu use a different chip to the
MAX232 which uses lower value capacitors to keep it small so it will
fit in a 9 pin D-type case.

o On Page 5 of the FT817 manual, you'll see the pin-outs of the
8 pin mini DIN ACC port

o You only need GND, TXD, RXD and 13.8V of 8 pin mini DIN

o Wire up a 5V regulator to GND and 13.8V

o Wire up you MAX232 to the 5V regulator.

o Wire up the Caps as you would normally do so on a MAX-232

o MAX232 Pin 12 to RXD on 8 pin mini DIN

o MAX232 Pin 11 to TXD on 8 pin mini DIN

o MAX232 Pin 13 to pin 3 of DB9 female

o MAX232 Pin 14 to pin 2 of DB9 female

o Wire DB9 Pins 7 and 8 [RTS & CTS] together

o Wire DB9 Pins 6 and 4 [DSR & DTR] together

That's it!

73 Howard G6LVB


Re: 8000 FT-918 Statistic (vertex's estimated profit)

theshadow
 

Does that take account of R&D ??

----- Original Message -----
From: "KQ6XA" <xtalradio@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:15 AM
Subject: [FT817] 8000 FT-918 Statistic (vertex's estimated profit)


A ballpark estimate: Vertex's profit on 8000 FT-917 radios is
around US$500,000.

Bonnie KQ6XA



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FT-817 Accessories

 

Hi FT-817 user?s!

The FT-817 is a very excellent piece of equipment. But for optimized
CW use, some improvements or accessories are necessary.

Here some of my thought?s and a description of my solution?s.

Tthe FT-817 needs:
-a memory keyer for auto-CQ (importand for QRP!) and with easy
adjustment of the sending speed
-an extern tunebutton which is also useful as a straight CW-key
(integrated backup key!)
-DC-distribution with RFI-choke, Spikesurpression, Autofuse and
Reversepolarityprotection to directly connect the FT-817 and the Z-11
Autotuner

I did built this in a small accessoriebox from scratch, matching the
leftside of the Trcvr. The powersupply and the keyer cable using
right angle plugs, so if you are using the frontside antenna
connector, the FT-817 can stand upside on his back.

My minimum FT-817 setup is completely transportable in a small
Samsonite phone bag (around 23x17x8cm).

This bag contains (nothing outside the bag!):
-FT-817 with NiMh-Batterie
-small centerloadet CB Antenna
-Mike
-Palm Paddle
-OE6GC Ultimate CW-Accessorie-box (described above)
-Homebrew ZM-2 tuner
-Koax between FT-817 and ZM-2
-10m + 10m of flexible Antenna-wire (=20m n x lamda/2 or tuned dipole
on 40 to 10m )
-Toshiba (15V/1,5A DC) silent Switching Powersupply

Would be fine if this thought?s are useful for the FT-817
freak?s too. Will load up Foto?s to the file section soon.

73, Harry (OE6GC)


Re: Power connector for Z11?

 

I'm not sure what the spec is on that connecter, LDG supplies one with the
Z11. However, unlike the one on the FT-817, it seems to be a very common
size as I found I had a half dozen wall warts laying around (left over from
some relic of the past) that all had the right connecter and all work just
fine with the Z11.

----
73, Rich - W3ZJ

-----Original Message-----
From: n6tqs@... [mailto:n6tqs@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:25 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Power connector for Z11?


Can someone tell me easily what power connector the Z11 uses?
I'm building cables for my power supply system, and figured I'd to get
a jump on it.

73, doug



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Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

 

Page 70 of the US manual states that level conversion is accomplished
in the CT-62 cable. Level converters ARE needed, and you either have
to buy the CT-62 cable or build your own.

--- In FT817@y..., "Woodrick, Ed" <ewoodrick@e...> wrote:
The US manual does indeed say that level converters are not needed.


Re: Power connector for Z11?

 

Doug,

According to my Z-11 Manual, the power connector is a 5.5 X 2.5 mm coaxial
connector. I got mine at Radio Shack, but don't have access to the RS part
number.

Hope this helps,

72,

Bill
W4RK

----- Original Message -----
From: <n6tqs@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: [FT817] Power connector for Z11?


Can someone tell me easily what power connector the Z11 uses?
I'm building cables for my power supply system, and figured I'd to get
a jump on it.

73, doug




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Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

Woodrick, Ed
 

The US manual does indeed say that level converters are not needed. I
suspect that Yaesu is finally catching up with current state of the art,
albeit about 10 years slow. In most applications, it's more expensive to
provide the 5V interface than a RS-232C compliant one.

Of course current state-of-art uses USB instead of RS-232C. There are
quite a few computers that don't have the "legacy" serial or parallel
ports any more. It would be nice if the radio manufacturers would get
together and create a common programming language utilizing USB.

Ed WA4YIH

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard B Drake [mailto:rich@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:04 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

Careful, as I understand it the level converter is not in the FT-817 but
is
built into the CT-62 cable from Yaesu. If you just make your own cable
you
won't have the required level conversion. For $30.00 why mess around,
buy
the right cable!

----
73, Rich - W3ZJ
-----Original Message-----
From: wb5tla@... [mailto:wb5tla@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 3:52 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!


--- In FT817@y..., Christian.Frankl@t... wrote:
> Hello Ham Operators!
> Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
> A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
> Thank you for writing back!
>
> Chris, DL6RDM

I am not absolutly sure, but I think the converter is built in on the
FT817. Manual says the line level converter is built in. All you need
is the cable rig to serial. I am having trouble locating the pinouts
for the computer side of the cable at the DB serial plug. The manual
has the pinouts for the rig.

Scotty WB5TLA




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Power connector for Z11?

 

Can someone tell me easily what power connector the Z11 uses?
I'm building cables for my power supply system, and figured I'd to get
a jump on it.

73, doug


Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

 

There's a schematic on my Web site at


I haven't tried it myself, however.

GL/73,

Barry N1EU
www.albany.net/~bg

--- In FT817@y..., Christian.Frankl@t... wrote:
Hello Ham Operators!
Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
Thank you for writing back!

Chris, DL6RDM


Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

 

Check out K6XX's 817 pages.


This is just one of many examples found on the web
Often they're listed under ICOM, also.

73, doug


From: Christian.Frankl@...
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:47:45 -0000

Hello Ham Operators!
Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
Thank you for writing back!

Chris, DL6RDM



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Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

 

Careful, as I understand it the level converter is not in the FT-817 but is
built into the CT-62 cable from Yaesu. If you just make your own cable you
won't have the required level conversion. For $30.00 why mess around, buy
the right cable!

----
73, Rich - W3ZJ

-----Original Message-----
From: wb5tla@... [mailto:wb5tla@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 3:52 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!


--- In FT817@y..., Christian.Frankl@t... wrote:
> Hello Ham Operators!
> Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
> A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
> Thank you for writing back!
>
> Chris, DL6RDM

I am not absolutly sure, but I think the converter is built in on the
FT817. Manual says the line level converter is built in. All you need
is the cable rig to serial. I am having trouble locating the pinouts
for the computer side of the cable at the DB serial plug. The manual
has the pinouts for the rig.

Scotty WB5TLA




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Re: Voltage vs. Power out

 

Check out K6XX's 817 pages. There's a graph, in pdf format.


73, Doug

From: krandino@...
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 18:31:05 -0000

Sorry if this is in the faq. I looked and didn't see it. Has anyone
checked voltage out versus power out? At what voltage does the power
start to drop off? The reason I ask is I am thinking of bundling a
group of 4 or 5 of the radio shack 9.6V 1600 maH battery packs
together in parallel to make a field battery pack. But my latest
experience with them makes me wonder if I would be better off with a
12V battery. The power out (based upon signal reports) seemed to drop
off rather quickly while using the battery packs.

Thanks in advance,
72,
Keith
N1XTK




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Re: CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

 

--- In FT817@y..., Christian.Frankl@t... wrote:
Hello Ham Operators!
Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
Thank you for writing back!

Chris, DL6RDM
I am not absolutly sure, but I think the converter is built in on the
FT817. Manual says the line level converter is built in. All you need
is the cable rig to serial. I am having trouble locating the pinouts
for the computer side of the cable at the DB serial plug. The manual
has the pinouts for the rig.

Scotty WB5TLA


CAT-Interface circuit plan wanted!

 

Hello Ham Operators!
Did anyone yet built his own CAT Interface for the FT-817?
A circuit plan for this Interface would be appreciated!
Thank you for writing back!

Chris, DL6RDM


Outback/Outreach combination

 

I have the Outback Outreach and Alpha Delta tripod. Yes expensive,
like N4ZCG said, but what a performer!

The tripod will work with any mobile antenna that is looking for a 50
ohm load. The guys that made that tripod did a excellent job. I
have used several different makes of antennas, besides Outback, and
they all worked great with the Alpha Delta. The tripod has to be on
earth ground or you will need to add a counterpose.

I did a number of comparisons with tripod/Outreach and my Gap 80-10
meter vertical. Gap beat it by only 1 S unit on 20 meters. Antennas
were 100 feet apart and using electronic antenna switch to do the
switching.

I wonder how a High Sierra antenna might do with the Alpha Delta?

73s,
Reed W4JZ


Re: Voltage vs. Power out

 

Hi Keith,

Beware putting battery packs in parallel! Not a good idea.

Let me offer you a thought that I have put into practice. I put onto
the power cord to the FT-817 the mating Molex connector to the one
that the RS battery has on it. I cut the power cord to about 9" to
reduce the voltage drop over the cord. I also put the same Molex
connector that is on the battery pack on the output of my AC power
supply. You may now use a cable clamp mounted on the groud post to
keep any strain off of the power jack/plug. When I want to work using
the AC supply, I just plug it into the Molex connector. If the
internal battery dissipates, then I just plug in a RS pack into the
external Molex connector (but just a single pack). I keep the
internal battery pack and two extras in my travel kit.

Hope that made sense. :-)

72 de Barry - W4WB

--- In FT817@y..., krandino@s... wrote:
Sorry if this is in the faq. I looked and didn't see it. Has anyone
checked voltage out versus power out? At what voltage does the
power
start to drop off? The reason I ask is I am thinking of bundling a
group of 4 or 5 of the radio shack 9.6V 1600 maH battery packs
together in parallel to make a field battery pack. But my latest
experience with them makes me wonder if I would be better off with
a
12V battery. The power out (based upon signal reports) seemed to
drop
off rather quickly while using the battery packs.

Thanks in advance,
72,
Keith
N1XTK


Voltage vs. Power out

 

Sorry if this is in the faq. I looked and didn't see it. Has anyone
checked voltage out versus power out? At what voltage does the power
start to drop off? The reason I ask is I am thinking of bundling a
group of 4 or 5 of the radio shack 9.6V 1600 maH battery packs
together in parallel to make a field battery pack. But my latest
experience with them makes me wonder if I would be better off with a
12V battery. The power out (based upon signal reports) seemed to drop
off rather quickly while using the battery packs.

Thanks in advance,
72,
Keith
N1XTK


Re: Pictures ...

 

So what did you do for a ground? I've only seen pictures of the Alpha
Delta tripod, and it looks as if the only ground coupling is three
pieces of metal that lay flat on the ground from the bottom of the
tripod legs.

Julian, G4ILO

--- In FT817@y..., Mike Tatum <miket@c...> wrote:

Hi all !

The first time I saw the outbacker's performance was when Steve
bought it over to my place with
his IC706MKIIG.

We setup the antenna on the tripod on the gravel in the back
garden, run about 15m of coax back to the
shack and connected the 706, within minutes we were working USA on
20m ...

I think the problem is that many people buy them and then do
nothing about a ground system for them,
like all short antennas, you got to do a fair bit of work on the
ground / counterpoises to get any results.

The Tripod from AlphaDelta makes it a lot easier to get good
results quickly but even it can be improved on !

Cheers!

MikeT ...


Re: Windows CE??

 

I vote for Palm interface. PSK with my Palm V to my FT817 I would
definitely be willing to spend money for!

Paul
KB8VWV