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How is it possible that power supplies of the same model and brand can produce
severe noise while others do not? It turns buying a switching Power supply for
the FT-817 into a crap shoot


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--- In FT817@y..., baranger1@a... wrote:<BR>

--- In FT817@y..., cfwinter@s... wrote:<BR>

*No* noise problems here with the RS switching PS...been using it <BR>

for <BR>

about six months. Even with it alongside my FT-817 with Rubber <BR>

duck <BR>

antenna I have *no* noise whatsoever - even on 440! On the HF <BR>

bands <BR>

I have a roof mounted g5RV/2 just above my shack. No noise <BR>

problems <BR>

here either...Guess it must depend on the individual unit.<BR>
<BR>
Fred KD7T<BR>

<BR>
<BR>
The trick is try to it with a front panel HF whip on 20 in the SSB <BR>

or CW mode.<BR>

That tells ALL. Its like a woman with out her make-up!<BR>
Bill W9WCR<BR>

<BR>
Well you got my curiosity going...I tried a Maldol 14Mhz whip on the <BR>
fron BNC connector with the RS switching PS alongside...Still *zero* <BR>
noise! Guess I just got lucky with a clean one...<BR>
<BR>
Fred KD7T<BR>
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For the Palm/Handspring you should look at an email package called Mulitmail
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73's de Ray g4fon

Check Ham Radio Outlet (HRO) they seem to have consistently lower prices than
AES in my experience.

73's Julio

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All,<BR>
<BR>
I've been following this forum for quite some time and am now in the "pre-
purchase phase" for the FT817. If any of you are from the Wisconsin area (or
Chicago, for that matter) are there any good swaps coming up where one can get
a good price (such as what was seen at Dayton) on the FT817? Barring that, is
there a good, reputable retailer who has a price that'll beat AES in-store of
$770?<BR>
<BR>
I'd also be interested in a private purchase, but I've heard that the warranty
is quite restrictive; only the initial purchaser can get any work done under
warranty (and in a retail purchase, one needs to give their name and callsign
to complete the purchase). Yes? Or would the reliability of the radios be such
that I need not worry about this?<BR>
<BR>
Also-having not been a active ham for over 15 years, and having followed the
comments here, I'l like to know more about the whip antennas that have been
bandied about here. I'm hoping to use a whip as a pedestrian mobile, but
for "hom" use I'm just going to stick with simple dipoles for
12M/15M/17M/20M/40M until I can get a good HF vertical. <BR>
<BR>
Comments and help appreciated!!!<BR>
<BR>
Fred Hyde, WB8THR<BR>
Madison, WI<BR>
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Thanks for all the help! <BR>
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Hi Pres!

I am going to be in NYC next Sunday PM & at least part of Monday
(vacation). I'm wondering if you can point me at a good (i.e.,
INEXPENSIVE hi hi) electronics store in the area -- I *had* a digital
camera, but the ex got it :( I know, Long Island ain't NYC but I
figure you're close enough! Also maybe a ham store? Our little
local (Universal Radio) shop's range of products in stock to play
with is, well, uninspiring. ONE 706 & ONE Japan Radio is the extent
of the HF rigs they have on display.

Heading on up to Maine for lobster & birdwatching (& portable ops
w/'817 & a dipole, a'course!) afterwards.

Thanks, see ya.

Jim,

The Palm compatible devices only run the Palm OS and the Windows CE
devices only run the Windows CE OS.

As far as your interoperability question, I suspect that to send the
message to you municipality, you will need a POP3/IMAP4 complaint mail
program such as Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, or one of the many
others. Programs that support RF based message transfer normally do not
support corporate messaging standards.

Ed

Try www.gigaparts.com. Last time I looked, it was at $725.

72 de Barry - W4WB



--- In FT817@y..., fwhyde@m... wrote:

All,

I've been following this forum for quite some time and am now in

the "pre-purchase phase" for the FT817. If any of you are from the
Wisconsin area (or Chicago, for that matter) are there any good swaps
coming up where one can get a good price (such as what was seen at
Dayton) on the FT817? Barring that, is there a good, reputable
retailer who has a price that'll beat AES in-store of $770?

I'd also be interested in a private purchase, but I've heard that

the warranty is quite restrictive; only the initial purchaser can get
any work done under warranty (and in a retail purchase, one needs to
give their name and callsign to complete the purchase). Yes? Or would
the reliability of the radios be such that I need not worry about
this?

Also-having not been a active ham for over 15 years, and having

followed the comments here, I'l like to know more about the whip
antennas that have been bandied about here. I'm hoping to use a whip
as a pedestrian mobile, but for "hom" use I'm just going to stick
with simple dipoles for 12M/15M/17M/20M/40M until I can get a good HF
vertical.

Comments and help appreciated!!!

Fred Hyde, WB8THR
Madison, WI


Thanks for all the help!

Right, because the FT817 group is stripping attachments. Unfortunately the
HFPACK group is letting them through. I didn't realize at first that he

sent

them to both groups but only HFPACK let them through.

I'm sure Bonnie will turn BACK off the attachments. But digest customers
don't get them either

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

Beware folks, whoever sly is, he is sending out virus infected

attachments.

My Norton antivirus has trapped two of them so far this morning:

That's why attachments are stripped out of the mailing list!

I hear you knockin', but you can't come in. Even if I was stupid enough to
open the door!

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!

Try www.hamstation.com

All,

I've been following this forum for quite some time and am now in the "pre-purchase phase" for the FT817. If any of you are from the Wisconsin area (or Chicago, for that matter) are there any good swaps coming up where one can get a good price (such as what was seen at Dayton) on the FT817? Barring that, is there a good, reputable retailer who has a price that'll beat AES in-store of $770?

I'd also be interested in a private purchase, but I've heard that the warranty is quite restrictive; only the initial purchaser can get any work done under warranty (and in a retail purchase, one needs to give their name and callsign to complete the purchase). Yes? Or would the reliability of the radios be such that I need not worry about this?

Also-having not been a active ham for over 15 years, and having followed the comments here, I'l like to know more about the whip antennas that have been bandied about here. I'm hoping to use a whip as a pedestrian mobile, but for "hom" use I'm just going to stick with simple dipoles for 12M/15M/17M/20M/40M until I can get a good HF vertical.

Comments and help appreciated!!!

Fred Hyde, WB8THR
Madison, WI


Thanks for all the help!

Bill,

I used my in-the-room wire antenna for 40-20-15-10 meter CW during the
recent WPX CW contest with no problems.

The '817 and Z-11 are indoors. The coax is from the back of the '817 to the
Z-11 beneath it. There is a shortened wire "dipole", with no coax, out of
the back of the Z-11. The wire is laying on the floor, in two directions
from the gear, bent around corners, all in one small room.

-Tony K3RXK
K3rxk@... <mailto:K3rxk@...>


Message: 15
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 02:39:24 -0000
From: baranger1@...
Subject: Re: Radio Shack switching 3 amp power supply

The trick is try to it with a front panel HF whip on 20 in the SSB or CW
mode.
That tells ALL. Its like a woman with out her make-up!
Bill W9WCR

Fred,

I'm beginning to think what you suggest is correct. Some people seem to have
different results. I have no complaints with my power supply. I also run a
VR-5000 beside the '817 setup and it hasn't been bothered much by the RS
power supply when the '817 is on. The '5000 uses its own wallwart.

--Tony K3RXK
k3rxk@... <mailto:k3rxk@...>


Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 22:58:39 -0000
From: cfwinter@...
Subject: Re: Radio Shack switching 3 amp power supply

*No* noise problems here with the RS switching PS...been using it for about
six months. Even with it alongside my FT-817 with Rubber duck antenna I
have *no* noise whatsoever - even on 440! On the HF bands I have a roof
mounted g5RV/2 just above my shack. No noise problems here either...Guess
it must depend on the individual unit.
Fred KD7T

I use the RS 22-503 power supply beside the '817 and Z-11 indoors with a
shortened wire "dipole", with no coax, out of the back of the Z-11. The wire
is laying on the floor in two directions from the gear bent around corners
all in one small room.

--Tony K3RXK
k3rxk@... <mailto:k3rxk@...>



Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 17:40:45 -0400
From: Nick Marsh <nmar@...>
Subject: Re: Radio Shack switching 3 amp power supply

"Curtis, Tony" wrote:>

Regarding switching power supply noise...
I have been using a small Radio Shack 13.8 VDC 3A regulated switching

power

supply with my '817 with very limited hash problems, none where I have
wanted to operate. It is catalog number 22-503.

Are you using an outside antenna? My RS supply like this is a real noise
generator. I'd bet the output looks like a comb on an o-scope! Can't use it
with 817 mounted antenna at all.
Nick
WB4SQI

Are there any Windows CE machines that will run a decent PSK31 program?
(Last I looked, there weren't any, but I might have missed something.) If I
could run PSK31 on a "palmtop," I would be interested in going that way.

If not, maybe the Palm interface might be interesting. It is very portable,
but I find the screen too small for practical use of spreadsheet/database
applications. So, I would probably continue to use a PC...and I would
probably not be interested in an application that didn't allow me the option
of using a desktop or laptop PC.

73
John Newell
KB1FPM

































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The Poll is appropriate; it is dealing with the memory management of
the FT-817. It has a direct impact on the development of the software
needed for memory management. The developer would like to know which
platform is the most popular. Why write software for a platform that
no one uses. The Palm OS is more then likely the one of choice with a
laptop second. The Palm gets good battery life. BTW your Palm IIIe
will not run WinCE.

Your question about transferring a message is a can of worms. It is
some what system dependent. It could be as simple as a forward of
the message or cut and paste, or you may have to use sneaker net to
get the information to the appropriate officials.

Your points are all well taken and are questions that should be
discussed and answered.

Thanks Jim N5TJZ



--- In FT817@y..., ve3xj@r... wrote:

Greetings to all:

In as much as I do not take these polls too seriously, I would

rather

see a discussion on what are the pros and cons of each system.

For example, I just recently acquired a Palm IIIe. I presume that

it

can run either Palm OS or Windows CE or both. What are the
advantages of one over the other? If I am in an emergency

situation,

and I have downloaded an e-mail from a pactor board from an HF
terminal, what is the best software for transferring that message
onto a LAN that is being operated by the municipality that I am
working with? Can I use my YAPP? my PKPakRATT? WF1B software?

Log

Windows? Writelog?

It is very difficult to make an informed decision when one is
ignorant of the factors, and this sort of poll is not helpful.

What do the experts say?

For that matter, this discussion (and poll) is probably

inappropriate

for this group. A better forum, IMHO, is in the digital group. But
then again, let's not get too dogmatic about these things...

73
Jim, VE3XJ



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Thanks!

Right, because the FT817 group is stripping attachments. Unfortunately the
HFPACK group is letting them through. I didn't realize at first that he sent
them to both groups but only HFPACK let them through.

----
73, Rich - W3ZJ

Hi,

I received both E-Mails but there were no attachments each one was
only 3 kb.

John
N3ZQJ

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is infected with the W32.Badtrans.13312@mm virus.
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is infected with the W32.Badtrans.13312@mm virus.
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Greetings to all:

In as much as I do not take these polls too seriously, I would rather
see a discussion on what are the pros and cons of each system.

For example, I just recently acquired a Palm IIIe. I presume that it
can run either Palm OS or Windows CE or both. What are the
advantages of one over the other? If I am in an emergency situation,
and I have downloaded an e-mail from a pactor board from an HF
terminal, what is the best software for transferring that message
onto a LAN that is being operated by the municipality that I am
working with? Can I use my YAPP? my PKPakRATT? WF1B software? Log
Windows? Writelog?

It is very difficult to make an informed decision when one is
ignorant of the factors, and this sort of poll is not helpful.

What do the experts say?

For that matter, this discussion (and poll) is probably inappropriate
for this group. A better forum, IMHO, is in the digital group. But
then again, let's not get too dogmatic about these things...

73
Jim, VE3XJ