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You can run whitehill's 55mm knives in those heads too.? Hundreds of profile options in M2 steel and somehow delivered to my place in southern Ontatio in 2-3 days fairly often if in stock.??

Hijacking this thread slightly, but I’m also curious in the horizontal mortiser discussion. I picked up a larger automatic hollow chisel mortiser a couple weeks ago, and haven’t used it yet, but I’m curious if I made the right choice. One concern I have is the automatic mortisers almost have to use vintage tooling—greenlee, Forrest city, etc—-that will eventually become hard/impossible to source. Second, it’s my understanding the greenlee 227 and wysong miles 284 eat up tooling less than 1/2”. Just too aggressive for smaller tooling. Lastly, I’m in a basement and space is a little tight. The greenlee takes up a big footprint compared to a euro horizontal mortiser.?

Is there a video or instructional set of photos for the Felder unit making square holes? I see the option on the website, but I am not following how that accessory actually works.?

Is the hollow chisel mortiser antiquated and obsolete? Will a decent slot mortiser like a griggio etc. outperform the greenlee 227? Is setup easy and fast on a horizontal mortiser??

Patrick?

On Thu, Dec 5, 2024 at 9:54?AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Tom,

I can confirm that you can add?chisel mortising and dowel boring because I did that on my 2nd hand FD250. It is 2011, 2.2KW, 3Ph single speed machine so not sure if things have changed over the years.

Surprisingly, I received a set of pictures from the Felder technician (not official Felder documentation) that made the install easy. It had been a few yrs now but don’t recall any issues.

Imran Malik

On Dec 5, 2024, at 9:15?AM, Tom Gensmer via <tom=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi Andy,?

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Yes, the mechanical DRO I mentioned is the counter for the system hand wheel. Once I got it calibrated it's been very precise.?

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For single phase, yes there is a variable speed option. I try to go three phase whenever possible, and am skeptical about variable speed anything, but yes there is definitely an option.?

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As David Best points out, the MultiRouter is a great machine for furniture work, but you're limited to smaller pieces (the motor is fixed, table moves), and you're limited to 1/2" and smaller shank tooling, whereas the FD-250 (and other horizontal mortisers) will accept up to 20mm diameter shanks.?

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As Joe points out, the Rangate dowel bits are awesome. Carbide-tipped and oversized by 0.1mm, they are a perfect complement to their Rot-Resist dowels. Now that I've calibrated the 16mm dowel boring template to the cast iron table, it's a pretty simple task to use the cast iron block and the dowel bar to bore properly indexed dowel holes, so assembly is a breeze.?

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It's important to note that the "chisel mortising" and "dowel boring" options are ostensibly "Factory-only" options. I've been told that you can order the parts after the fact, but I wouldn't want to spend the time trying to retrofit them. My thought process was that I was better off just ordering a fully tricked-out machine, that way I wouldn't find myself wanting for features at a later time, and this way the machine would have broader appeal if/when I were to eventually sell it.?

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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN

I have watched video of the Felder 250, and it seems like quite a useful mortiser. I have a Powermatic vertical mortiser, and it is quite limited. Not well built, either.

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I’ve tried a Domino, and think I’d choose that over either my Powermatic or the Felder. I do not produce things commercially, and understand that a commercial facility doing production runs may have different needs.

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John Hinman
Boise ID
Kappa 450X and A941

Hi Tom,

I can confirm that you can add?chisel mortising and dowel boring because I did that on my 2nd hand FD250. It is 2011, 2.2KW, 3Ph single speed machine so not sure if things have changed over the years.

Surprisingly, I received a set of pictures from the Felder technician (not official Felder documentation) that made the install easy. It had been a few yrs now but don’t recall any issues.

Imran Malik

On Dec 5, 2024, at 9:15?AM, Tom Gensmer via <tom=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi Andy,?

?

Yes, the mechanical DRO I mentioned is the counter for the system hand wheel. Once I got it calibrated it's been very precise.?

?

For single phase, yes there is a variable speed option. I try to go three phase whenever possible, and am skeptical about variable speed anything, but yes there is definitely an option.?

?

As David Best points out, the MultiRouter is a great machine for furniture work, but you're limited to smaller pieces (the motor is fixed, table moves), and you're limited to 1/2" and smaller shank tooling, whereas the FD-250 (and other horizontal mortisers) will accept up to 20mm diameter shanks.?

?

As Joe points out, the Rangate dowel bits are awesome. Carbide-tipped and oversized by 0.1mm, they are a perfect complement to their Rot-Resist dowels. Now that I've calibrated the 16mm dowel boring template to the cast iron table, it's a pretty simple task to use the cast iron block and the dowel bar to bore properly indexed dowel holes, so assembly is a breeze.?

?

It's important to note that the "chisel mortising" and "dowel boring" options are ostensibly "Factory-only" options. I've been told that you can order the parts after the fact, but I wouldn't want to spend the time trying to retrofit them. My thought process was that I was better off just ordering a fully tricked-out machine, that way I wouldn't find myself wanting for features at a later time, and this way the machine would have broader appeal if/when I were to eventually sell it.?

--

Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN