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Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo

Pau lLaPierre
 

Do you know why the English drink warm beer? Because LUCAS also makes
refrigerators !

----- Original Message -----
From: BLAIR BUCCIARELLI <blair-b@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo


the correct name for Lucas Electrical Systems is Lucas, Prince of
Darkness.
----- Original Message -----
From: <michael_f_wells@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:30 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo


Dom,

Thanks for the info. and the offer to procure the Trend unit in the
UK. There's a good chance I'll take you up on that.

Some other posts here have indicated a lower cost unit from 3M than
the ones I had originally been looking at. I will investigate these
further and then make a decision if it merits the difficulty of
purchasing, paying for(different currencies, VAT, right-handed
steering...and all that) and shipping a Trend to the U.S.

My second barrage of emails to Trend have also gone unanswered, so
apparently they aren't interested in the difficulty of doing business
in the No. American market even though their unit might possibly be
priced (with dealer discounts) such that it would compete rather
nicely with the 3M line, which apparently is overpriced due to
virtually no competition.

My day-job is a computer professional, e-commerce development
engineer for streaming media, etc., so the idea crossed my mind of
setting up a virtual storefront to deal the Trend line in the U.S. if
the unit proved to be well-made (not like Lucas ignition systems in
British cars!!!), effective at removing dust, comfortable, and most
importantly available at a dealer discount that left room go compete
with 3M and Scott. I would like to have discussed this with the Trend
Machninery folks, but haven't been afforded the opportunity...hey, if
you carry any influence with them, please wake-em up and ask that
they respond to the crazy Yank who keeps sending them emails
(mikeoct51@...). Afterall, he just wants to be a customer, what a
novel concept....

Well, that' the end of my harrange on the Brit business methods...

From everything I've read, the war on dust in a small shop is three-
pronged:

1. Stop the dust at the source (good collection system) - I've
purchased an Oneida 1.5hp system for this. The Hammer is supposedly
good at "containing" the dust as well, so I'm doubly good there.

2. Filter the ambient air effectively to remove air-borne dust in
the 1-5 micron range - I'm looking at the JDS 750 for this. Price of
$239 seems reasonable.

3. Effective breathing apparatus - still considering the most
effective solution for the $$$$ here. Under $10 for the disposable
fibre masks, up to $30-40 for more exotic masks, $200-$300 for self-
powered low end and a whopping $500-$600 or more for the high end
self-powered or external sourced air.

To the extent you have good stuff for steps #1 and #2, perhaps you
don't need a real high-end solution to #3, perhaps something like the
dust-bee-gone at $35 would suffice??? On the other hand, you can not
have "too much" dust-free air. It's hard to know where to draw the
line, where there's diminishing returns on incremental expenditures.

Thanks, Mike Wells


Hi Mike
As far as I'm concerned the Trend is A.o.k. or as we say over
here,simply spiffing.
Be glad to assist in ordering one for you. I can go direct to their
H.Q. Its only 5-6 miles away.
Used mine for some time now and no problems
Dom


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Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo

Pau lLaPierre
 

Touche (sorry, can't find the accent) John. Even warm, your beer beats Bud.
Bud is for people who don't drink beer.

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: John Gubb <john.gubb@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo


So What, we do not need the low temperatures, our beer has flavour, !!

Lucas also make Diesel Injectors, I would need something like that to
drink
Bud or Pabst

John G
-----Original Message-----
From: Pau lLaPierre <lapierre@...>
To: felder-woodworking@...
<felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo


Do you know why the English drink warm beer? Because LUCAS also makes
refrigerators !
----- Original Message -----
From: BLAIR BUCCIARELLI <blair-b@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo


the correct name for Lucas Electrical Systems is Lucas, Prince of
Darkness.
----- Original Message -----
From: <michael_f_wells@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:30 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Respirator and Face Shield Combo


Dom,

Thanks for the info. and the offer to procure the Trend unit in the
UK. There's a good chance I'll take you up on that.

Some other posts here have indicated a lower cost unit from 3M than
the ones I had originally been looking at. I will investigate these
further and then make a decision if it merits the difficulty of
purchasing, paying for(different currencies, VAT, right-handed
steering...and all that) and shipping a Trend to the U.S.

My second barrage of emails to Trend have also gone unanswered, so
apparently they aren't interested in the difficulty of doing business
in the No. American market even though their unit might possibly be
priced (with dealer discounts) such that it would compete rather
nicely with the 3M line, which apparently is overpriced due to
virtually no competition.

My day-job is a computer professional, e-commerce development
engineer for streaming media, etc., so the idea crossed my mind of
setting up a virtual storefront to deal the Trend line in the U.S. if
the unit proved to be well-made (not like Lucas ignition systems in
British cars!!!), effective at removing dust, comfortable, and most
importantly available at a dealer discount that left room go compete
with 3M and Scott. I would like to have discussed this with the Trend
Machninery folks, but haven't been afforded the opportunity...hey, if
you carry any influence with them, please wake-em up and ask that
they respond to the crazy Yank who keeps sending them emails
(mikeoct51@...). Afterall, he just wants to be a customer, what a
novel concept....

Well, that' the end of my harrange on the Brit business methods...

From everything I've read, the war on dust in a small shop is three-
pronged:

1. Stop the dust at the source (good collection system) - I've
purchased an Oneida 1.5hp system for this. The Hammer is supposedly
good at "containing" the dust as well, so I'm doubly good there.

2. Filter the ambient air effectively to remove air-borne dust in
the 1-5 micron range - I'm looking at the JDS 750 for this. Price of
$239 seems reasonable.

3. Effective breathing apparatus - still considering the most
effective solution for the $$$$ here. Under $10 for the disposable
fibre masks, up to $30-40 for more exotic masks, $200-$300 for self-
powered low end and a whopping $500-$600 or more for the high end
self-powered or external sourced air.

To the extent you have good stuff for steps #1 and #2, perhaps you
don't need a real high-end solution to #3, perhaps something like the
dust-bee-gone at $35 would suffice??? On the other hand, you can not
have "too much" dust-free air. It's hard to know where to draw the
line, where there's diminishing returns on incremental expenditures.

Thanks, Mike Wells


Hi Mike
As far as I'm concerned the Trend is A.o.k. or as we say over
here,simply spiffing.
Be glad to assist in ordering one for you. I can go direct to their
H.Q. Its only 5-6 miles away.
Used mine for some time now and no problems
Dom


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Re: Digest Number 223

meltsner-kleine
 

I recently downloaded netscape v. 6 and can no longer access the web page.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Meltsner

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 11:23 AM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Digest Number 223


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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
2. RE: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials y et?
From: sbonder@...
3. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Paul Jordan" <pjordan@...>
4. Waiting for Santa
From: "Seth Honeyman" <shoneyma@...>
5. Christmas Catalog
From: jim@...
6. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: Charlie Norton <cnorton@...>
7. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Fred Julius" <fredj@...>
8. Christmas catalog
From: "Rod Boston" <rboston@...>
9. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
10. Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
11. RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
12. Re: Electric brake on saw?
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
13. RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
14. Re: Christmas Catalog
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
15. Re: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded
From: mhamester@...
16. Re: Bandsaw tracking question
From: "Dan Schultz" <dschultz@...>
17. Re: Re: Bandsaw tracking question
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
18. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
19. Re: rjasong@... Electric brake on saw?
From: lse872139@...
20. Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
From: "Ron Zimmerman" <ron_zimmerman@...>
21. New machine delivery
From: glennwarner@...


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:04:19 -0000
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

No catalog in San Antonio yet, but then they didn't say which
Christmas.

Jim


--- In felder-woodworking@..., "James Voos" <jvoos@p...>
wrote:
Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check
when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:05:38 -0500
From: sbonder@...
Subject: RE: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials y et?

none in atlanta, but then again maybe they are waiting for my felder to
arrive next week.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Overton [mailto:jimo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:04 AM
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials
yet?


No catalog in San Antonio yet, but then they didn't say which
Christmas.

Jim


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wrote:
Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check
when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:03:43 -0500
From: "Paul Jordan" <pjordan@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

Notch chet, but I'm just a measely Hammer owner in NY ....

----- Original Message -----
From: James Voos <jvoos@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 12:25 AM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Anyone seen the Christmas specials
yet?


Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check
when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:38:39 -0500
From: "Seth Honeyman" <shoneyma@...>
Subject: Waiting for Santa

No catalog here in Albany, NY either. Looks like Wolfqang was right about
two weeks in the snailer.






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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:50:31 -0000
From: jim@...
Subject: Christmas Catalog

I was concerned since I had not seen the Christmas catalog as yet so
I called Felder-USA yesterday. Really just wanted to make sure my
name was "on the list" and it was. Guess it is the same old
story "the check's in the mail."

They did say they would send me a copy if I did not see the catalog
in the next couple of days.





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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:18:48 -0800
From: Charlie Norton <cnorton@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

I've rec'd the lastest Christmas Felder catalog.

At 05:25 AM 11/28/2000 +0000, you wrote:
Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:29:25 -0600
From: "Fred Julius" <fredj@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

Brian.. I received my Holiday catalog on Monday 11/27/00. I live in
Illinois.
Fred

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From: Brian and Karen Lamb <bklamb1@...>
To: felder-woodworking@...
Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?
Date: Mon, Nov 27, 2000, 6:28 PM
Still waiting in Arizona! Hopefully soon.
Brian

James Voos wrote:

Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Brian Lamb
bklamb1@...
Carefree, AZ
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:29:45 -0000
From: "Rod Boston" <rboston@...>
Subject: Christmas catalog

Received the sale catalog last week (about Wed.) but I am in So. Cal.
Rod B.



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:32:39 -0500
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

I think my wife must have intercepted mine and hidden it.

Steve

At 07:18 AM 11/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
I've rec'd the lastest Christmas Felder catalog.

At 05:25 AM 11/28/2000 +0000, you wrote:
Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:41:07 -0800
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
Subject: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded

Hi -

Since I am the moderator of the Files section, I felt it my duty to provide
all members with an equal chance to view the Christmas catalog. All I want
is a fair and accurate ability for you ALL to spend your money. I do not
want any disenfranchised Felder owners. Barring any contests or Supreme
Court challenges, the scans will be in the Files section.

Scott Slater
www.studiouw.com




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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:43:43 -0800
From: "Scott Slater" <scott@...>
Subject: RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded

I forgot to mention, that I did not scan pages 12-17 since they are only
photos of the 700 Series machines.


Since I am the moderator of the Files section, I felt it my duty to provide
all members with an equal chance to view the Christmas catalog. All I want
is a fair and accurate ability for you ALL to spend your money. I do not
want any disenfranchised Felder owners. Barring any contests or Supreme
Court challenges, the scans will be in the Files section.





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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:15:12 -0000
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
Subject: Re: Electric brake on saw?



Jason on my machine 5 seconds

John Gubb
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Gant <rjasong@...>
To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Electric brake on saw?


Hi Folks,

I'm just curious, how long does it take for your saw blades to come
to a complete stop once you've pressed the stop button? Mine takes
16-17 seconds using a 12" blade, and it coasts to a gradual
stop. I was thinkin' my machine would have a brake that would kick in
quickly and bring the blade to an abrupt hault. Is there an
aftermarket brake I could fit to my machine?

thanks, Jason G


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:10:46 -0500
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
Subject: RE: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded

At 08:43 AM 11/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
I forgot to mention, that I did not scan pages 12-17 since they are only
photos of the 700 Series machines.
What?! Every page counts! You should include pages 12-17 and re-scan
pages 18-24. Additionally, the specials listed on pages 4-7 are improperly
formatted and should not be scanned. This is not about trying to get more
photos of the 700 Series machines, this is about fairness!



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:21:02 -0000
From: "John Gubb" <john.gubb@...>
Subject: Re: Christmas Catalog

Hi all, have my catalogue (note the spelling !!) UK post Vote for a
President on mailing features !!

John Gubb
-----Original Message-----
From: jim@... <jim@...>
To: felder-woodworking@... <felder-woodworking@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 2:50 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Christmas Catalog


I was concerned since I had not seen the Christmas catalog as yet so
I called Felder-USA yesterday. Really just wanted to make sure my
name was "on the list" and it was. Guess it is the same old
story "the check's in the mail."

They did say they would send me a copy if I did not see the catalog
in the next couple of days.




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:46:18 -0000
From: mhamester@...
Subject: Re: Christmas Catalog scans uploaded


Scott,
Thanks for the scans! The Christmas catalog hasn't made it to
the Tampa-St. Pete area as of yet either. As a new used-Felder owner
(a 6-31 Compact that probably belonged to a FOG member), I just
wanted to say thanks for the additional opportunity for my
credit-card company to make money.

As a Floridian, I am concerned about dimpled scans, and feel that
a rescan is the only fair way to resolve this important issue, not
just for me, but for FOGdom as a whole. My state Supreme Court will
be looking at the egroup rules and policies, and may have to take an
active role in rewriting them as they see fit. I believe six of the
seven Justices own Laguna products and the other owns a Unisaw.

Regards to all, and please forgive the attempt at satire.

Mark

--- In felder-woodworking@..., "Scott Slater" <scott@s...>
wrote:
Hi -

Since I am the moderator of the Files section, I felt it my duty to
provide
all members with an equal chance to view the Christmas catalog. All
I want
is a fair and accurate ability for you ALL to spend your money. I
do
not
want any disenfranchised Felder owners. Barring any contests or
Supreme
Court challenges, the scans will be in the Files section.

Scott Slater
www.studiouw.com


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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:30:47 -0000
From: "Dan Schultz" <dschultz@...>
Subject: Re: Bandsaw tracking question

Steve-

I have nothing but complaints about my LT 16 bandsaw. Initially, I
adjusted the bottom wheel (co-planarity) so the 1/8" blade would run
in the same position on both wheels. My biggest complaint is that
the
adjustment of the bottom wheel was blade dependent, big time. Every
different blade I put on I was constantly adjusting the bottom wheel
to get the blades to track properly.

I also think the blade guides are weird. The discs are so large you
can't tell where you are on the blade and a lot of times when I put
on
a different blade I'm getting sparks until I adjust the guides
differently. Why not rollers that travel alongside the blade?

I also think it's extraordinarily noisy. I knew I should have bought
the Felder bandsaw!!

Dan







--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:
Hi all,

I finished the workshop wiring in my garage this weekend. Now
that I'm
powering up my bandsaw, I'm unsure of the blade tracking. The saw
is a
Laguna LT16HD (16", 3HP).

So far, I've only tried the 1/4" blade. I can adjust the top
wheel such
that when I manually spin the wheel the blade rides with just the
teeth
hanging over the front edge of the wheel. However, as soon as I
power on
the saw, the blade immediately moves back on the wheel until the
rear blade
guide stops it from going any further. I do have a 1 1/4" blade I
haven't
powered up (again, I can get it adjusted fine for manual turning of
the
wheels).

What am I missing? It's not supposed to do that, right? Is
that
behavior a sign of under- or over-tensioning the blade? What else
should I
check?

Thanks... Steve


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:42:07 -0500
From: Steve Kusterer <spkerer@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Bandsaw tracking question

Hi Dan,

I have the LT16HD, which I believe is a bit beefier than the LT16. I
was contacted by Laguna and they said that the saw I have was one that they
received with the uncrowned wheels. While they offered to exchange the
wheels if I wanted, I'm having them send the crowning jig instead (seems
like less work). We'll see how it turns out.

As far as the noise, my reaction was the opposite. I put on the
headphones and prepared myself as I powered it up for the first time. I
couldn't believe how quiet it is. 3 HP, 220V and nice and quiet. The
Felder is remarkably quiet to me compared to my old Delta contractors saw.

I'm not giving up on the LT16HD at this point. While you haven't been
happy with your LT16, I've also heard from people that are happy with saws
from Laguna. I'm not trying to insult you or seem like a Laguna bigot, I'm
just giving them a fair chance.

Steve

At 09:30 PM 11/28/00 +0000, you wrote:
Steve-

I have nothing but complaints about my LT 16 bandsaw. Initially, I
adjusted the bottom wheel (co-planarity) so the 1/8" blade would run
in the same position on both wheels. My biggest complaint is that
the
adjustment of the bottom wheel was blade dependent, big time. Every
different blade I put on I was constantly adjusting the bottom wheel
to get the blades to track properly.

I also think the blade guides are weird. The discs are so large you
can't tell where you are on the blade and a lot of times when I put
on
a different blade I'm getting sparks until I adjust the guides
differently. Why not rollers that travel alongside the blade?

I also think it's extraordinarily noisy. I knew I should have bought
the Felder bandsaw!!

Dan







--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:
Hi all,

I finished the workshop wiring in my garage this weekend. Now
that I'm
powering up my bandsaw, I'm unsure of the blade tracking. The saw
is a
Laguna LT16HD (16", 3HP).

So far, I've only tried the 1/4" blade. I can adjust the top
wheel such
that when I manually spin the wheel the blade rides with just the
teeth
hanging over the front edge of the wheel. However, as soon as I
power on
the saw, the blade immediately moves back on the wheel until the
rear blade
guide stops it from going any further. I do have a 1 1/4" blade I
haven't
powered up (again, I can get it adjusted fine for manual turning of
the
wheels).

What am I missing? It's not supposed to do that, right? Is
that
behavior a sign of under- or over-tensioning the blade? What else
should I
check?

Thanks... Steve

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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:54:30 -0000
From: "Jim Overton" <jimo@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

US Postal Service has found Texas...the catalog arrived today,

Jim


--- In felder-woodworking@..., Steve Kusterer <spkerer@m...>
wrote:
I think my wife must have intercepted mine and hidden it.

Steve

At 07:18 AM 11/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
I've rec'd the lastest Christmas Felder catalog.

At 05:25 AM 11/28/2000 +0000, you wrote:
Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check
when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:55:21 EST
From: lse872139@...
Subject: Re: rjasong@... Electric brake on saw?

In a message dated 28/11/00 17:14:30 GMT Standard Time, john.gubb@...
writes:

<< felder-woodworking@... >>



Hi Jason

What machine do you have,?
Is it a Felder universal or a single machine?

If it is a universal, then time, the other operations stopping time, to see
if they differ and how much.
If it is just a saw unit on it own then your brake is definitely not
working.
It should only take around about 5 - 8 seconds.

I can advise if you wish I have been installing setting up and servicing
Felder M/Cs for over 2,1/2 years and have been a woodworking Engineer for
over 19years.

How old is your machine ?

You will find that the transformer has gone or the rectifier or both this
disables the brake but still allows you to work the machine.

Are you running your machine via a Phase converter If so then it is wired in
incorrectly there is an artificial Phase on the Brake circuit.

HOPE to be of some HELP

Best regards TONY LATHAM :)
WOODWORKING ENGINEER.



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:56:51 -0000
From: "Ron Zimmerman" <ron_zimmerman@...>
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the Christmas specials yet?

Jim,
Got mine yesterday. I guess being 50 miles closer to Sacramento must
help.
Ron Zimmerman

--- In felder-woodworking@..., "James Voos" <jvoos@p...>
wrote:
Catalogs don't seem to make it to my mailbox, so I want to check
when
it arrives for a number of members.

thanks,

jim


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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:06:05 -0000
From: glennwarner@...
Subject: New machine delivery

Received my cf-41 yesterday. Still remembering the home delivery
experience of a bf-26 twelve years ago and some recent horror shows
from fellow fog members, I opted to pick up the new machine at the
freight terminal. I hired a flatbed auto transport and accompanied
the driver to the terminal about 60 miles from home. Felder pallet
was on and secured within 20 minutes.

When we got home I thought the best I could do was slide the pallet
onto my driveway and rent a pallet jack to go the last 10 feet and
through the double doors of my shop. Actually it was much simpler
than this. He was able to back the bed of the truck right up to the
doors and telescope the machine right inside. Now all I have to do
is install the mobility kit and roll the machine off the pallet.

From this experience I would highly reccommend this option. For me it
was cheaper than the freight companies residential delivery charge,
hassle free, and no sore muscles.

Now back to unpacking. So many pieces, so little time. I'll check in
again as the saga unfolds.


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Re: Renzetti Industries ZCI for Hammer

Pau lLaPierre
 

Paul,

I gotta say, RI, Uninc. does deliver. After receiving my original insert
from John, late delivery the fault of the USPS, not the manufacturing or
shipping departments, I ordered 2 more for my 7-41. That delivery, after
being sent, was in fact delivered the very next day! The recipient, however
was RI, and this time the delivery agency was UPS!! Still, despite the
screwup, it was remarkably quick service. Since I was planning on coming to
Fort Washington for the Mid-Atlantic show in April, I told John ( RI's CEO
and chief of product fulfillment) to hang on to them and I would pick them
up from him at the Felder booth where he would be moonlighting from his day
job and serving as a guest demonstrator and product flogger. He furthur
offered to pick up some Krispy Kreme donuts for me and have them at the show
(though not in the booth where their life expectancy could be measured in
nanoseconds--I did buy a diversionary dozen for the Felder guys as some
means of protection, however). At the end of the day I took delivery of my
ZCIs and 8 dz. Krispy Kremes. I know you Rochester folk have a new KK store
up there, but we are living in a KK donut desert here in the upper
Catskills. (I got hooked on these things in 1967 when I was in the Army in
VA. Only got re-acquainted with them when SWMBO and I were in the Shenandoah
Valley last summer.) KKs make Dunkin Donuts taste like a baker's mistake!
BTW, for anyone who is interested, Krispy Kremes freeze well and can be
brought back to almost perfect freshness in a micro-wave--defrost until just
warm, or until the icing starts to melt. This is a long way around to
providing a testimonial for Renzetti Industries, its service- oriented
staff, and its outstanding, albiet seriously underpriced ZCI. I gave John
$20.00 ea. for the inserts, w/o shipping, and I think that is still too
little.

May go to the Grand Opening on Sunday, and I so, hope to meet some of the
Feldervolk.

Regards,

Paul LaPierre

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Jordan <jordanpaul@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:39 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] RE: Renzetti Industries ZCI for Hammer


Quick review of the RI ZCI for Hammer.

First off, I ordered two and only rec'd one. Some lame excuse about
Catherine walking in and disturbing the cut on the second one (when in
doubt, blame SWMBO). I'm not sure if RI realizes they are now in the "real
world" of customer service, but I'm sorely disappointed they only shot 50%
on my first order.

Secondly, the lead time is atrocious. I waited several weeks beyond
promise
date. Once again, customers and orders of mine went begging as I waited
for
my ZCI to do any really meaningful work. I suggest RI cancel any and all
future vacations to ensure this does not happen again.

Finally it arrives. The insert itself had several scratches so I
immediately
felt I had been rooked. It was also sized for a slider several mm farther
away from the table than my own. I suggest RI join the real world and have
a
schematic of all possible customer machines at his disposal.

OK, OK, I can't keep this going.

The real review: The insert arrived, it was as close to dead nuts as I'd
expect from someone making a pattern from a machine in the warehouse. I
had
to file one curve to get the fit just right, all of 10 seconds, but keep
in
mind this thing has to be DEAD NUTS to screw into the housing. Relief cuts
on the underside were perfectly placed and machined. Material is great
stuff
but good golly miss molly I hope you are wearing full hazmat gear when you
cut it John - the dust is deadly. And John, no sweat nor hurry on the 2nd
one, put me at the end of the list if others are waiting.

This baby works as advertised and at a MUCH more than reasonable price.
Make
your own (if you value your time at $0) or I suggest you buy from RI if
they
continue to pursue this market.

I still can't believe a Hammer! configuration actually made it to
production
....

P.


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Re: Open House Dress Code

Pau lLaPierre
 

Russell,
The clamping system you're looking for is made by JLT Clamps in
Poughkeepsie,NY. Their web site is www.jltlancasterclamps.com. They make a
heavy unit called the Panel Clamp in various sizes and configurations, and a
lighter version called the Redi-Clamp, geared towards small shops and
hobbyists, and it is this version that allows the clamps to hang down when
not in use. JLT has been around for a long time and is one of the mainstays
of the furniture and cabinetmaking industry when it comes to clamping.
Hope this helps,

Paul LaPierre

----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Seaton <russellseaton1@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:47 AM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Open House Dress Code


I looked in the past few Fine Woodworking magazines and did not see
the advertisement I recall from the past. I would have to look
through older issues but mine are elsewhere. I am pretty sure the
JDL clamps are a panel making "system". There are racks which the
clamps hang from. Put the panel to be glued in 2 or 3 of the clmaps
hanging on the rack. Tighten the clamps and then let the racks hand
down to make room for more panels.


--- In felder-woodworking@y..., "BLAIR BUCCIARELLI" <blair-b@w...>
wrote:
Russle I have the June Fine W W. What page, can't fine the ad.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Seaton" <russellseaton1@y...>
To: <felder-woodworking@y...>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Open House Dress Code


Are JDL clamps the ones in the black and white ad in the back of
Fine
Woodworking I believe with a picture of them on a rack? Sort of
resemble Plano except hanging out horizontally instead of
vertically. I think I saw some of them sold at a molding factory
auction back in 1996.


--- In felder-woodworking@y..., "BLAIR BUCCIARELLI" <blair-b@w...>
wrote:

Phil-ip a while back you wanted to know about clamps and were
looking at
Bessey.
A buddie of mine bought JDL. I saw them last night and they are
a
true
commercial grade clamp. There is one company out of Canada that
has
more
beef but the price goes way up. These JDL's were about the
price
of a
Bessey. They are 2.5 times the beef of a Bessey. They really
belong
hanging
off a rack for space but they lay down flat without any blocks,
like the
Bessey, due to the fact they use a twin beam design. The twin
beam
gives you
the lay flat feature and gives incrediable torque down power
without lateral
twist. Even the handle had twin hand grabs so you and the wife
can
squeeze
out all the glue. My friend has both Bessey and JDL but the big
stuff goes
to JDL.


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Re: Clamps and RO sanders

Pau lLaPierre
 

Philip,

Gross-Stabil makes a clamp similar to the Bessey K model which I feel is a
more sturdy and better clamp. The jaws are all cast metal w/ removable pads
that cost less to replace than those on the Bessey. They also work w/ those
nifty support blocks that Bessey makes for setting up clamps to do all four
corners on doors while keeping everything level. If you can't find a source
for the Gross-Stabil clamps, let me know.

I tried both of the Festo RO machines, 5" and 6", at the recent Mid-Atlantic
Woodworking show in PA, and they are the best electric RO sanders I have
ever seen. Quiet, stable, and no vibration. You can turn on the sander, take
your hand off, and it will stay put. Also has a very efficient dust
collection system. All sorts of accessories(a la Felder) for doing contour
sanding, solid surface work, etc. Haven't gotten one yet, but when the last
payment on the current job comes in I'm getting the 6" model.

I would be interested in your thoughts on the Hoffman edge flushing
machine-despite the cost, I'm leaning in favor of that one over the Virutex.
I do a lot of rim-raised panels for architectural work and one of those
would save a lot of time over my present edge-flushing method.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Tamarkin <tamarkin@...>
To: <felder-woodworking@...>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: [felder-woodworking] Prices for the Friis Micro Adjust for
Crosscut Fence???


Jason - these are terms that we old masters share from time to time with
you
cubs, all derived from a lifetime of trying to work a living, moving
material to within the tolerance of a STBCH...it's kind of a folklore
thing,
passing the traditions of the craft along to the next wave - Brian and I
will be happy to share any and all terminology with the list. Soon as we
think it up!

Let's face it, we're in it for the male-bonding, the jokes, the cutesy
terms, the secret handshake (you DON'T know the secret handshake??? Oh.
Sorry.), the facial hair, and, above all else, the plaid shirts. Cutting
wood has very little to do with it - notice how Brian's posts have
increased
and gotten sillier since actually receiving his machines? Remember when he
was Mr. "I'm so bummed 'cause I don't have anything to cut wood with and
I'm
so overbooked, and I'm so desperate to get to work"? Now it seems that
his
chair must've gotten stuck in the ruts in front of his computer desk,
since
he's probably become the leading poster of late (Just kidding, Brian!)...

BTW, the Hoffmann lipping planer arrived - at first blush it's beautifully
made, and has all the requisite cool-guy appeal - two-tone grey/orange
finish, and that amazing (how do they do it???)Swiss motor-sound that just
screams "I parted with a grand for this little handful! Nice, huh?"

How does it work? Hell, who cares? Actually it's nice, at least on
samples
I tried. Has a cutterhead guard that has to be manually retracted,
compared
to the Virutex's 2.5" of buck-naked angry spinning carbide. There's a
certain learning curve with keeping the outboard handle up in order to
keep
the cutterhead/base alignment, and there is no fence. Adjustment seems
easy
and very positive. It has to be used right-handed, bit of a PITA, but got
used to it quickly...

The $64k question - is it worth 2 1/2 times the cost of the Virutex?
Probably not for me, given the amount of use it'll get in my one-guy shop,
but I know I'll enjoy it anyhow!

Next items in the line of sight are a new R/O sander, and a whole batch of
those neat-o Bessey edging clamps...anybody out there have any hints?



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Welcome to Felder Woodworking Machines

Geoff Shepherd
 

Hi,

This is the first message to the Felder Woodworking Machines list at eGroups.com.

Current list subscribers:
Geoff Shepherd
John Renzetti

Yours in Precision Sawdust,

Geoff Shepherd
New Felder Woodworking Machine Group

Geoff Shepherd
 

John,

I'm sending this message via our new e-mail list hosted by eGroups.com. You
and I are both managers of this list (hah, you've been volunteered!), and
there is a nice web interface at eGroups to manage the list, set policies,
and turn on and off different features.

To subscribe to this e-mail group, all one needs to do is send a blank
e-mail to: felder-woodworking-subscribe@...

To send a message to the entire group (currently compose of only you and
me), send e-mail to: felder-woodworking@...

I did not want to add everyone on our current informal list without their
permission. Probably the best thing to do is send out an invite to everyone
with the above instructions.

There is a way to get a snippet of HTML code which can be added to any web
site that makes it easy to subscribe to our mailing list. It's called a
subscription box, and I imagine it's as simple as filling in one's e-mail
address and pressing the subscribe button.

On the eGroups site, there are also some interesting features that allow us
to share photographs, have real-time chat, teleconference (no long distance
charges), read archived messages, and have a shared calander of events.

For right now, the list is set up as public and unmoderated. Anyone can
subscribe and post messages. If we need to change it to a private group or
use the moderation features, that is easy to do.

eGroups is advertiser supported, so I'm not sure what to expect in our
messages. If it gets annoying, they have a no-ads option for $5 a month paid
yearly, or we could find a different list server.

Well, let's give this a go.

--
Geoff Shepherd
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22
Great Idea

Wolfgang Geiger
 

Hi guys,

This is a great idea. As you know we are months if not years behind
with our web site. But please don't give up your hope we are indeed
working on a new one. If we can support this group in any way please
let me know.

Wolfgang
FELDER USA
Felder Woodworking Machinery Forum

Peter Rogers
 

Thank you for the invitation. Maybe this will motivate the Felder web
page designers. Frankly, I going to miss the "old web page".

Peter Rogers
Felder USA
Message Posting

Thomas R. Van Alstyne
 

Greetings-

What a wonderful idea and opportunity for everyone involved with FELDER
machinery! As a FELDER representative I look forward to assisting with
anyone's concerns or suggestions relating to their machines or
woodworking techniques.

I urge everyone to use this forum to its full extent, but I also want
to remind everyone that assistance is just a toll-free call away....

In either case FELDER USA takes pride in knowing that the "FELDER Team"
consists not only of the company, but of the smart investors who have
realized the importance of quality machinery.

Happy Woodworking!!
Looks like membership is growing

John Hartshorne
 

Hey Guys,
Even if it is mostly all felder staff.
Good idea to get the ball rolling. However,if we aren't careful it will
roll right over us.
Look forward to hearing from you as your needs require.
JH
the tech head
Welcome!

Geoff Shepherd
 

Wow! I'm curious to know how you guys subscribed before the official
invitations were sent out? In any case, welcome to the group!

Official invitations just went out a few minutes ago to the thirty-four
members of the old informal e-mail group, so we will soon see our regulars
get signed up with the new list.

Aside from this e-mail list, there is a web page at:

www.egroups.com/felder-woodworking/info.htm

This web site allows us to search old discussions, post new messages via a
web interface (useful when using a different computer than your own), chat
in real time with other members, voice teleconference without long-distance
fees, keep a shared calendar of events (such as group chat nights, or
whatever), share links to related web sites, post pictures of
shops/projects/etc, and even conduct surveys. I'm sure we will find some of
these features useful and engaging right away, but others may not have much
use for us for awhile. I guess we'll see how it goes.

Should FelderUSA like to add a "subscription box" for this forum to their
web site, HTML code and instructions are available at the following link:



--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
Welcome, again...

Geoff Shepherd
 

Great - glad to see more folks getting signed up!

In my last welcome message, I posted the incorrect URL for this group's home
page. The correct URL is:



Please visit this page to review prior postings and make use of other cool
features available to this group such as pictures and chat.

A good way to sign your messages to the group is something like the
following: name, e-mail address, location, equipment.

--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
mailto:geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22
FELDER Support for this group

Geoff Shepherd
 

Although this list is currently served up for us without charge, the
company providing the service is advertiser supported. This means we
have "discreet" little ads at the bottom of each message. They do
provide an Ad-Free option that runs $5 or $6 per month, paid anually by
check. If Felder USA would like to pick up the tab on this option, that
would be a nice gesture and one that I'm sure we would all appreciate.

If we want to set that option up, let me know and I'll post the
information of where the check should be mailed to.

--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
Everett, WA
Check the Vault!

James Voos
 

I posted two pictures, one of my machine being delivered, another of
the difficulty Gerhard has with driving (long story). Anyway if I get
a greenlite from Mr. Renzetti, I will post a picture of his shop if we
wants. It would be great to see where these wonderful machines reside.
(Don't worry if your shop is a mess, it will make me feel better).

jim
POLL: Tooling Discount for the forum

jvoos@pacbell.net
 

Given that we are all active advocates of Felder Machinery, do you think that Felder ought to sponser one tooling special per month to the Group, kind of like Jesada does.

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Please select one of the following:

o Great Idea.
o I could take it or leave it
o No. Felder tooling pricing is too cheap already!
o No. I've already mortgaged my house for the new shaper cutter


by going to the following Web form:



Thank you!
Re: Check the Vault!

Geoff Shepherd
 

Jim,

Great pictures! Looks like nearly the same barely-adequate truck I used to
pick my up BF6-31 last week! How did you smash your fence?

I took the liberty to post a picture of John's shop that I've previously
shared (with John's permission) on the Badger Pond woodworking forum
(www.wwforum.com) .... this is a picture I took while visiting his shop last
Summer, and it is what convinced me of the enourmous productivity benefits
of going with three-phase power! Check it out in the vault!



I'll post pictures of my MESSY MESSY shop soon!

..Geoff

----- Original Message -----
From: James Voos <jvoos@...>
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Check the Vault!


I posted two pictures, one of my machine being delivered, another of
the difficulty Gerhard has with driving (long story). Anyway if I get
a greenlite from Mr. Renzetti, I will post a picture of his shop if we
wants. It would be great to see where these wonderful machines reside.
(Don't worry if your shop is a mess, it will make me feel better).
Note on Using the Vault

Geoff Shepherd
 

Group - it would be a good idea as we upload pictures to the vault to create
appropriate sub-folders within the Felder Owners Shops folder... I created a
couple already, so we can just follow that pattern or as we see fit. I must
say that this is a pretty slick system - I like it!

--
Geoff Shepherd
List Manager
mailto:Geoff@...
Everett, WA
BF6-31, AF-22
vault pictures...

Philip Tamarkin
 

...John's shop is WAY too clean to be doing any real work! Looks like
the Felder catalog, too, lacking only the guy with the cool moustache!
Where's the scrap? Miscuts? Pinups? Band-Aids? Beer bottles? Scattered
wrench set? These, my friends, are what make up a real shop, IMHO!
(Yeah, I'd trade my first-borne for a setup like his! Terminally
jealous!) -Philip Tamarkin (BF-5 and damn proud of it!)
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