Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback
Mark, the videos links were inserted because the OP does not appear to have the knowledge both you and I have and needs material links to answer those questions. We would not need the links because we know the answers.
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Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback
I had an accurate technology scale for almost 20 years always worked, used it on slider xcut and rip and at one point on a cabinet saw. I have had to flip the rip several times due to extra long xcut with solids. I didn’t even bother to watch the videos or check the links but i know what they are doing, there is nothing new or novel about attaching a dro to a rip fence, regardless of how easy it is to remove to flip and even if I didn’t ever want to flip the rip its to clunky for me to save $200-$250 for a less elegant solution like a mag strip dro but thats me
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On Jun 15, 2020, at 8:53 PM, chrjparks@... wrote:
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The saw owner in that link copied my set up and I found it searching the internet some years ago. The Wixey works well and as a magnet is the only attachment to the rip fence head absolute precision in fitting is not necessary because the attachment is self adjusting but that will not change the relative relationship of fence to reading head. One reason it really shines is if you have a fine adjustment on the rip fence, get it close and wind the head to obtain the desired measurment, no bumping etc to get that last little bit.? The Wixey is a fairly dumb DRO in that it can only be calibrated at Zero unlike its most common competitor Proscale which can be calibrated to a random cut length. Here is a link to a proscale fitted to a normal cabinet saw ?and while I have never used one it looks to be a better thing than the Wixey as it seems to be more flexibe in calibration and more robust in use though I doubt if it is more accurate unless the resolution is better. A link to fitting a Wixey? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s I would not be without a DRO of whatever brand on the rip fence because I am constantly using as a measuring bump stop and it is a rare day it gets used to rip anything and it is repeatable within the resolution of the instrument which on the Wixey is about 5 thousandths of an inch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s
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Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback
I used a length of rip fence that is 200mm long and it sits on the rip fence head with no need to rotate it out of the way and if I want to rip I fit a full length fence to do that. It is a very rare day that I need a full length fence and because it does not over hang it never gets in the way and I don't have to walk around the damn thing.?
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Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback
The saw owner in that link copied my set up and I found it searching the internet some years ago. The Wixey works well and as a magnet is the only attachment to the rip fence head absolute precision in fitting is not necessary because the attachment is self adjusting but that will not change the relative relationship of fence to reading head. One reason it really shines is if you have a fine adjustment on the rip fence, get it close and wind the head to obtain the desired measurment, no bumping etc to get that last little bit.?
The Wixey is a fairly dumb DRO in that it can only be calibrated at Zero unlike its most common competitor Proscale which can be calibrated to a random cut length. Here is a link to a proscale fitted to a normal cabinet saw
?and while I have never used one it looks to be a better thing than the Wixey as it seems to be more flexibe in calibration and more robust in use though I doubt if it is more accurate unless the resolution is better. A link to fitting a Wixey?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s
I would not be without a DRO of whatever brand on the rip fence because I am constantly using as a measuring bump stop and it is a rare day it gets used to rip anything and it is repeatable within the resolution of the instrument which on the Wixey is about 5 thousandths of an inch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaBOSx4--o&t=499s
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Re: Power drive option on saw
I like ur pics, even the green snake!
Nice work
Rgrds
Bob F
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Re: Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback
Probably precise enough, I have heard good things about them but I think they are cheap and wouldn’t buy another, as I have also used higher quality ones. I would just spend the $350 or so for the fiama unit.?Also if you do do a non mag strip unit like the wixy on the rip you won’t be able to flip the fence 180deg out of the way without creating some sort of bracket to disconnect the reader, probably takes seconds but imho a pain...
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Wixey digital fence on K500 rip fence - feedback
I saw on another forum someone who put a wixey digital fence for the rip fence on a K3.
I am wondering whether someone has already done so or someone can shim in about how precise and repeatable it can be. For $120 box, that looks dirt cheap for precision.
I am sure anyone can put that on a K500, but I wonder whether a small move in this additional fence or just the fact that this fence will not be 100% parallel with the main fence can have an impact on the precision.
Like you setup everything do a cut test at 4", perfect every-time, but when you move for a cut at 8" you are no more at 8" because your additional fence is not parallel to the main fence.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated,
Bill
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Re: WTB: Aigner Thickness stop
I went down this path a few months back ..? Aigner stopped making them and none are in stock.? They are a rare gem. ?ALSO the pressure jaws are no longer made although a few are still is stock until they’re gone.? ????? ? Regards, ? Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ? 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of G Lewis Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:27 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [FOG] WTB: Aigner Thickness stop ? I am looking for an Aigner Thickness stop.
I thought I would see if anyone has one the are no longer using and would like to sell? Digital would be nice...
G
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WTB: Aigner Thickness stop
I am looking for an Aigner Thickness stop.
I thought I would see if anyone has one the are no longer using and would like to sell? Digital would be nice...
G
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Re: Power drive option on saw
Power Drive for height and angle - worthwhile options. They seemed costly upfront, but over time I believe you will appreciate that it simply works and is repeatable. I just finished some legs for a dining table that had angles that I was able to repeat over and over. Obviously, the robust and tried and true methods developed prior to digital height & angle changes still work but with these options, it makes it easier to 100% focus on the project, not the tool.?
And if you use the rip fence as a bump stop often (say in a production capacity) the Digi-Drive would be a consideration. It's costly, but compared to a Tiger Fence it's close in price. I would love to have a Felder option for a panel mounted manual lead-screw rip fence adjustment, like the Martin...I can dream right??
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Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide
Cliff,
Thanks for the details. Supposedly there is a grease fitting as the manual recommends using a grease gun. I have looked cursorily and not seen one. Will have to take a closer look in a day or two to see if I locate it.
Imran
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On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote: ?I have tried oil, I have tried wipe on Red grease, I have used the DowCorning dry lube with molybdenium disulfide (it is messy) and I have used Lubriplate in a pressurized can. My height adjustment rack is hard to access and no grease zerks exsist That'd have been a nice thing to build in. If I ever take the saw town I'll install some better way to get lube in. So far I am favoring the Spray on Lubriplate. The long tube provided with the can lets me get in and apply it with some relative precision. On 6/13/20 2:32 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:
K975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. It
does not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaper
spindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and I
got it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height?
Imran
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Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide
I have tried oil,? I have tried? wipe on Red grease, I have used the
DowCorning dry lube with molybdenium disulfide (it is messy) and I have
used? Lubriplate in a pressurized can.
My? height adjustment rack is hard to access and no grease zerks exsist?
That'd have been a nice thing to build in.? If I ever take the saw town
I'll install some? better way to get lube? in.
So far I am favoring the Spray on Lubriplate.? The long tube provided
with the can lets me get? in and apply it? with some relative precision.
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On 6/13/20 2:32 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote: K975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. It
does not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaper
spindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and I
got it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height?
Imran
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Re: Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile
Thanks John. Surprised that it holds position good enough for the ext table. Either way, I am going to try it as, right now I only see the need to attach pressure modules for rip fence. ? Imran ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of "jmkserv@... Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 10:53 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile ? Works good with pressure modules and Aigner extension tables with the support leg. I used standoffs so the whole rail could be utilized. You could drill and tap the Baltic Birch for a set screw if you found a situation that requires it. I plan to machine the Felder P rail blocks like David shows, just haven't got around to it yet. You can adapt the simple build of the Baltic Birch blocks to use no stand offs. I just used scraps and the Aigner bars I had on hand.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-06-14 7:37 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile Hi John, ? This is definitely a low cost option. Is the ply block just sitting on the P rail or is there a set screw? ? Also if one is willing to sacrifice the ability to mount an accessory where the wooden blocks are, would it work if the flat bar was directly mounted to the blocks without standoffs? The wood block in this case would need to be thick enough to provide sufficient clearance to attach the accessories. Do you see a disadvantage to not use the standoffs? ? What you show is fine for pressure modules, which is what I am interested in but does it work for accessories like extension tables which one would prefer to be coplaner with the slider every time they are mounted? ? Imran ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of "jmkserv@...
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile ? Imran, I got those P rail Aigner mounts David mentioned and here's a couple of pics of a P rail to F rail mount that's super easy to make.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-06-14 10:20 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile Thanks for the link. I also see what you did with two modified couplings with flat bar in between. Do you use that often? The angle bracket is too limiting where it would not accommodate wide material. Unless I am missing something. ?I’m ran, the P-channel pressure module coupling including Felder part numbers is documented in this series: ? David Best - via mobile phone?
On Jun 13, 2020, at 7:47 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?Chris,
Thank much for quick feedback. Do you need two to support the flat bar in between? Did it come with flat bar?
I will check eshop but likely it is still messed up and will have to call in.
Imran
On Jun 13, 2020, at 10:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:
?Hi Imran
Felder makes an p channel adapter that may help. I order a couple from my Felder sales guy. ?Around $50 each plus shipping.
Thanks,
Chris Perren
512-415-6951
On Jun 13, 2020, at 9:28 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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?I did electronic search on survival guide for Aigner and only came up with distometer. I know David Best has machined the p coupling (may be two of them) to accept the Flat bar but are there any other solutions?
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Thanks,
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Imran
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Re: Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile
Works good with pressure modules and Aigner extension tables with the support leg. I used standoffs so the whole rail could be utilized. You could drill and tap the Baltic Birch for a set screw if you found a situation that requires it. I plan to machine the Felder P rail blocks like David shows, just haven't got around to it yet. You can adapt the simple build of the Baltic Birch blocks to use no stand offs. I just used scraps and the Aigner bars I had on hand.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-06-14 7:37 p.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile
Hi John, ? This is definitely a low cost option. Is the ply block just sitting on the P rail or is there a set screw? ? Also if one is willing to sacrifice the ability to mount an accessory where the wooden blocks are, would it work if the flat bar was directly mounted to the blocks without standoffs? The wood block in this case would need to be thick enough to provide sufficient clearance to attach the accessories. Do you see a disadvantage to not use the standoffs? ? What you show is fine for pressure modules, which is what I am interested in but does it work for accessories like extension tables which one would prefer to be coplaner with the slider every time they are mounted? ? Imran ? From: [email protected] On Behalf Of "jmkserv@...
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile ? Imran, I got those P rail Aigner mounts David mentioned and here's a couple of pics of a P rail to F rail mount that's super easy to make.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-06-14 10:20 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile Thanks for the link. I also see what you did with two modified couplings with flat bar in between. Do you use that often? The angle bracket is too limiting where it would not accommodate wide material. Unless I am missing something. ?I’m ran, the P-channel pressure module coupling including Felder part numbers is documented in this series: ? David Best - via mobile phone?
On Jun 13, 2020, at 7:47 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?Chris,
Thank much for quick feedback. Do you need two to support the flat bar in between? Did it come with flat bar?
I will check eshop but likely it is still messed up and will have to call in.
Imran
On Jun 13, 2020, at 10:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:
?Hi Imran
Felder makes an p channel adapter that may help. I order a couple from my Felder sales guy. ?Around $50 each plus shipping.
Thanks,
Chris Perren
512-415-6951
On Jun 13, 2020, at 9:28 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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?I did electronic search on survival guide for Aigner and only came up with distometer. I know David Best has machined the p coupling (may be two of them) to accept the Flat bar but are there any other solutions?
?
Thanks,
?
Imran
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Re: Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile
Hi John, ? This is definitely a low cost option. Is the ply block just sitting on the P rail or is there a set screw? ? Also if one is willing to sacrifice the ability to mount an accessory where the wooden blocks are, would it work if the flat bar was directly mounted to the blocks without standoffs? The wood block in this case would need to be thick enough to provide sufficient clearance to attach the accessories. Do you see a disadvantage to not use the standoffs? ? What you show is fine for pressure modules, which is what I am interested in but does it work for accessories like extension tables which one would prefer to be coplaner with the slider every time they are mounted? ? Imran ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of "jmkserv@... Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:21 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile ? Imran, I got those P rail Aigner mounts David mentioned and here's a couple of pics of a P rail to F rail mount that's super easy to make.? -------- Original message -------- Date: 2020-06-14 10:20 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile Thanks for the link. I also see what you did with two modified couplings with flat bar in between. Do you use that often? The angle bracket is too limiting where it would not accommodate wide material. Unless I am missing something. ?I’m ran, the P-channel pressure module coupling including Felder part numbers is documented in this series: ? David Best - via mobile phone?
On Jun 13, 2020, at 7:47 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?Chris,
Thank much for quick feedback. Do you need two to support the flat bar in between? Did it come with flat bar?
I will check eshop but likely it is still messed up and will have to call in.
Imran
On Jun 13, 2020, at 10:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:
?Hi Imran
Felder makes an p channel adapter that may help. I order a couple from my Felder sales guy. ?Around $50 each plus shipping.
Thanks,
Chris Perren
512-415-6951
On Jun 13, 2020, at 9:28 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
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?I did electronic search on survival guide for Aigner and only came up with distometer. I know David Best has machined the p coupling (may be two of them) to accept the Flat bar but are there any other solutions?
?
Thanks,
?
Imran
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Re: Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile
Imran, I got those P rail Aigner mounts David mentioned and here's a couple of pics of a P rail to F rail mount that's super easy to make.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "imranindiana via groups.io" <imranindiana@...> Date: 2020-06-14 10:20 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Attaching Aigner Pressure Module to Xroll P profile
Hi David,
Thanks for the link. I also see what you did with two modified couplings with flat bar in between. Do you use that often?
The angle bracket is too limiting where it would not accommodate wide material. Unless I am missing something.
Imran
On Jun 14, 2020, at 12:29 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I’m ran, the P-channel pressure module coupling including Felder part numbers is documented in this series: ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Jun 13, 2020, at 7:47 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Chris,Thank much for quick feedback. Do you need two to support the flat bar in between? Did it come with flat bar?I will check eshop but likely it is still messed up and will have to call in.ImranOn Jun 13, 2020, at 10:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:?Hi ImranFelder makes an p channel adapter that may help. I order a couple from my Felder sales guy. ?Around $50 each plus shipping. Thanks,Chris Perren512-415-6951On Jun 13, 2020, at 9:28 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
?I did electronic search on survival guide for Aigner and only came up with distometer. I know David Best has machined the p coupling (may be two of them) to accept the Flat bar but are there any other solutions?
Thanks,
Imran
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Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide
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On Jun 14, 2020, at 6:56 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote: ? David Best - via mobile phone? On Jun 14, 2020, at 3:34 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Okay, since there is no response, I will ask the question differently.What are you using to lubricate the Saw Height/Elevation guide. I assume allmotorized saw have this maintenance requirement. Please share if this is notcorrect.Thanks,Imran-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.ioSent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:32 PMTo: [email protected]Subject: [FOG] What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation GuideK975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. Itdoes not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaperspindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and Igot it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height?Imran
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Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide
David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Jun 14, 2020, at 3:34 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Okay, since there is no response, I will ask the question differently.What are you using to lubricate the Saw Height/Elevation guide. I assume allmotorized saw have this maintenance requirement. Please share if this is notcorrect.Thanks,Imran-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.ioSent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:32 PMTo: [email protected]Subject: [FOG] What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation GuideK975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. Itdoes not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaperspindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and Igot it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height?Imran
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Re: What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide
Okay, since there is no response, I will ask the question differently.
What are you using to lubricate the Saw Height/Elevation guide. I assume all
motorized saw have this maintenance requirement. Please share if this is not
correct.
Thanks,
Imran
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:32 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [FOG] What Grease to use for Saw Height/Elevation Guide K975 manual says to grease the saw height guide every 40 hrs or monthly. It does not mention/recommend a grease type. I have grease for the shaper spindle in the gun. I forget what it is but it was recommended here and I got it from NAPA store. Is it okay to use for the saw height? Imran
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Re: Scoring blade does not retract all the way
that's what I'd do.? The Hammer? scoring is? pretty primitive.?
It works but it is uncomplicated and relies on simple mechanisms.
On 6/14/20 3:26 PM, fa18frog via
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The scoring
blade on my CF-531 goes up fine but when I try to retract the
blade if goes about half way and stops. ?I then have to push it
down the rest of the way. ?From the parts drawing and examining
the machine it appears that the height adjustment screw pivots the
blade up and when you reverse the procedure gravity and the drive
belt lower the blade. ?I think I just need take it apart and
lubricate the pivot bushing or bearing to get it to release and
retract properly. ?Is this how it works? ?Just trying to make sure
I not missing something simple before I start taking things apart.
Thanks,
James?
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