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fuel hoses

Ercole, Chris
 

Just got off the phone with VWofA and they said to bring my van to
Donaldson's to get the fuel hose campaign done. They told me the recall
campaign has not been released yet to the dealers and that's why they
don't know about it, but she would call ahead and inform them to do this
under warranty. I'll probably make the appointment for next week or the
week after and let you all know how it works out.
CE


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Re: Good Shops Bad Shops

Edward A. Bevan
 

Joan:

Sounds good but how about just keeping track of the positive comments.
It would cut the work in half and
still accomplish the same thing. Also; how about totaling the no# of
good remark per business per year. Kind of like a rating system.

BTW: I liked your other posting with the thumpa thumpa thing. Nice.

EAB
99 EVC

J Henley wrote:


Well, how's this - I just do it as a doc and anyone who wants to participate
can. I can email it out to anyone who wants it. I will be around here for
the next 6 weeks or so and after that I should be email accessible at least
once a week. Or I could turn it over to someone else then.

I think it would work as an anecodtal thing. Example:

Florida - Sarasota
BugNutz
941-371-7663

April 2000
Steve has given the EVC ('97) a 60,000 mile tune-up and took care of
installing tires, shocks, new lighter assembly, misc other little tweaks and
tricks. He is just learning how to work on the EVC's, but has worked on
VW's, including my Westy for years. He's busy, so sometimes it's difficult
to get in, but he's very honest and reasonable to deal with. If you have an
emergency I have no doubt that he'll work with you.
soreal@...

Florida - Sarasota
Southpointe Motors, the local VW dealer does not work on Campers. I assume
that they work on Eurovans, since they occasionally sell them.
soreal@...

Florida - Tampa
Reeves Imports
(813) 933-2811

June 1999
Excellent. Work on the Winnebago parts, too.
soreal@...

Colorado - Fort Collins
Ed Carroll

June 1998
I have no idea what kind of work they do if you can actually get in, but
they were the most unaccomodating VW dealer that I've ever encountered. They
totally blew me off when I tried to get the EVC in for an oil change, even
when I gave them a 5 day window. They knew that I was just passing through,
too. Go to The Tire Shoppe instead.
soreal@...

And if anyone has a better idea, I'm not attached to this format.

Send contributions/questions/comments to me at mechanics@...

Joan

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Re: Good Shops Bad Shops

Randal Reed
 

The problem with rating anything as "good or bad" is that one
person's good might be someone else's bad. I found this out when I
first started searching for a dealer to purchase from. I got a
suggestion from a friend that Mountain States in Denver was "the
best" dealer to go to. I had very much the opposite experience.

I do think that if you started a list of dealers and had a "readers
digest" version of people's experiences there, it would let the
reader draw thier own conclusions. And it is probably a better way
legally.


Randal Reed
2000 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., J Henley <soreal@h...> wrote:
I know it's been done on other VW-related sites, and I think
through Limbo,
too, but if anyone else would be interested in an organized state
by state
list of good and bad experiences with EV mechanics or dealers, I'd
be happy
to put one together. I have no idea if there are legal consequences
or not,
but if so, we could keep it private, available by request only,
maybe?

And if it's been done and I've missed it, unh, nevermind ....

Joan


Re: Good Shops Bad Shops

J Henley
 

Well, how's this - I just do it as a doc and anyone who wants to participate
can. I can email it out to anyone who wants it. I will be around here for
the next 6 weeks or so and after that I should be email accessible at least
once a week. Or I could turn it over to someone else then.

I think it would work as an anecodtal thing. Example:

Florida - Sarasota
BugNutz
941-371-7663

April 2000
Steve has given the EVC ('97) a 60,000 mile tune-up and took care of
installing tires, shocks, new lighter assembly, misc other little tweaks and
tricks. He is just learning how to work on the EVC's, but has worked on
VW's, including my Westy for years. He's busy, so sometimes it's difficult
to get in, but he's very honest and reasonable to deal with. If you have an
emergency I have no doubt that he'll work with you.
soreal@...

Florida - Sarasota
Southpointe Motors, the local VW dealer does not work on Campers. I assume
that they work on Eurovans, since they occasionally sell them.
soreal@...

Florida - Tampa
Reeves Imports
(813) 933-2811

June 1999
Excellent. Work on the Winnebago parts, too.
soreal@...

Colorado - Fort Collins
Ed Carroll

June 1998
I have no idea what kind of work they do if you can actually get in, but
they were the most unaccomodating VW dealer that I've ever encountered. They
totally blew me off when I tried to get the EVC in for an oil change, even
when I gave them a 5 day window. They knew that I was just passing through,
too. Go to The Tire Shoppe instead.
soreal@...

And if anyone has a better idea, I'm not attached to this format.

Send contributions/questions/comments to me at mechanics@...

Joan


Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

James H. McCarthy
 


Re: LP gas alarm-beep-beep-beep

 

Thank you all for your advice. I checked the ground wire and aux battery and
both were okay. I ended up removing the LP detector fuse in the rear fuse
panel just to get the detector to be quiet. I called the manufacturer of the
detector and they said the detector needs to be replaced. CCI (the
manufacturer) says that model has a useful ideal life of 7 years. I won't
know how old the detector is until I pull it out to replace it as the date of
manufacture is on the back of the unit. It has to be at least 5 years old
though. I ordered a replacement Model #7770 (since Model #7730 is no longer
made). Windish RV in Denver says they should have the unit by tomorrow and
it will be about $45. hopefully when I get the new unit installed my beep
beep problems will be solved. I'll let ya know :>

Lynn Pressnall

In a message dated 5/2/00 5:51:38 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
hejulian@... writes:

We had a similar problem with the LP alarm - at the same time, things started
going haywire with the camper electrical system, come to find out, there was
a loose ground wire in the rear panel -
I will never understand why VW chose such a crappy company (Winnebago) to
outfit such a nicely crafted vehicle

In a message dated 5/2/00 8:08:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
westenburg@... writes:

I would suspect the auxiliary battery. Turn the fridge on DC mode to put a
load on the battery, then check the battery charge LEDs. If it shows low
state of charge when you figure it should be fully charged, the battery
probably needs replacement. Be sure to replace it with a deep cycle type
battery. I got mine from Walmart.
Marve
'95 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., lynnpressnall@... wrote:
My LP alarm keeps beeping and beeping. When I reset the alarm it goes off
again after less that a minute. My coach battery is fully charged, I can
detect no LP gas leak, the LP is turned off, I've lit the stove to burn out
all LP in the lines.

Any ideas? Sure couldn't sleep in it now with all that beeping.

Thanks for your help
Lynn Pressnall
'95 EVC (perfect up till now!) >>


Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

Caroline Bogel
 

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*kicher*

?

I¡¯m in Bamberg¡­.hello neighbor.

?

My van is 95.

?

The Eurovan fan club is greater that you think. A couple of days ago I found a note on my windshield from a Staff Sergant on base comlimenting me on my van and leaving me his email addy to contact him if I wanted to meet him.

?

Hope the hailstorm passes you by tonight!

?

?

Caroline

?

-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Steven Wertheim [mailto:wertheim@...]
Gesendet: May 03, 2000 6:07
An: ev_update@...
Betreff: Re: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

?

I'm in Wuerzburg.? What year did you say your Eurovan was?? I have all the manuals for the '99.

----- Original Message -----

To: ev_update@...

Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:48 AM

Subject: AW: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

?

Thank you for the good information. I think, after reading your message and the others before, that going with a new 1000W transformer is the best bet. My frustration comes from not having a manual to read through. The larger Eurovan manual put out by Winnebago says very little.

?

I think its time to buy a better manual.

?

SO, where in Germany are you hanging out?

?

Servus, (that should give a you a clue about my general whereabouts)

?

Caroline (with a rolling ¡®r¡¯)

?

-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Steven Wertheim [mailto:wertheim@...]
Gesendet: May 01, 2000 19:56
An: ev_update@...
Betreff: Re: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

?

1.? Large vs small transformer:? I second the notion that you would be wise
to err on the side of a too large transformer than a too small one.? I
personally don't want to be worrying all the time about exceeding the
capacity of the transformer and having a meltdown.? If you decide to add up
all of the power drain from the various things you're going to use in the
camper you should figure in a bit extra for overhead that you might not be
aware of.? Does the charging circuitry use power?? What is the draw from the
furnace when it is operating (including the fan and other electrical items
in the furnace)?? Also, I don't think it's a good idea to use a 300 watt
transformer to run 300 watts of power drain.? I think the transformers put
out less than they are rated for.? (I think that's the .6 that was mentioned
below.)

2.? New vs. used transformer:? I have a '99 EVC and I live in Germany.? I
bought a used 750 watt transformer from the thrift shop and on the second
outing last year it started to make a loud noise.? I stopped using it
immediately.? I've decided to invest in a new one.? My thinking goes like
this- I just spent $35,000 on this wonderful camper with all of it's
intricate electrical charging circuitry.? Why am I quibbling over $100 to
insure that I don't cause an electrical problem.? I think that if I
inadvertantly mess up the electric system in the van, I'll have to pay the
local Winnebago people alot more than $100 to fix it.? On the other hand,
perhaps you can find a transformer in like-new condition from someone you
trust.

So my opinion is not to skimp on a relatively inexpensive item that you'll
be using pretty regularly, whenever you plug in at a campground.

Steve
'99 EVC (in Germany)

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Rousseau
To:
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 7:09 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel
to look it up in?


> Caroline,
>
> I think what you really need to know is your power budget.? A 300W
> transformer is as good as 1000W, if you power budget stays under
> 300W.? However above 300W, it becomes unusable, whereas the 1000W
> will work albeit at more cost and weight/space.? What will you be
> plugging into to this power source?? Most applliances have a little
> sticker or info panel stating how much power or current(~X120 for
> power).? Add up everything you might have running simultaneously and
> that will be your total power budget.? FOr example a space heater is
> typically 1000-1500Watts, a microwave ~500-1000W, a lightbulb 60-
> 100W, etc...Hope this makes sense
>
> Paul EV 93 Wk
>
> > There is a significant price difference between the 300W
> transformers and
> > 1000W. I'd like to be able to go with the lowest W possible.
> >
> > I would be able to look it up in my manuel but that is destroyed by
> water.
> > Still need to get that.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Caroline
> >
> > -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jerry Carter [mailto:sanae@m...]
> > Gesendet: April 30, 2000 4:33
> > An: ev_update@...
> > Betreff: Re: AW: [ev_update] second question - transformers
> >
> > 2 cents here,
> >
> > Having lived over in England (while in the AF) a few years ago, I
> > found the weight difference between the different converters to be
> > minor.? The smallest one is still very heavy, the higher capacity
> > converters are about the same weight.
> >
> > That being the case, buy the highest capacity model you can
> > find/afford.? When you don't use it on the trip you can use it at
> > home.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- In ev_update@..., "Caroline Bogel" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Rick,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the answer.
> > >
> > > Yes, I understand that I need to convert from 220 to 110 Volts,
> but
> > the
> > > transformers come in different Watts. So, I need to buy one that
> > converts
> > > the correct amount of Watts into 110 Volts.(I hope that makes
> > sense
> > to me!!)
> > >
> > > On a side note, with the move over here I have had to make choices
> > about
> > > which electrical appliances to keep and buy transformers for and
> > which to
> > > sell and buy German models. With the dollar at peak performance
> its
> > been
> > > easier to buy German models. Obiviuosly that's not the case
> > with the
> > > Eurovan. My parents shipped it over for me in exchange for my
> Chevy
> > Blazer.
> > > Since I want to travel its perfect for me. I am a no-frills
> > traveler.
> > >
> > > The second hand store on base sells transformers for 750 and 1000
> > Watts, I
> > > think if they are cheap and work that will be my best bet.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Caroline
> > >
> > > -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Rick Gordon [mailto:rickgo@h...]
> > > Gesendet: April 28, 2000 9:11
> > > An: ev_update@...
> > > Betreff: Re: [ev_update] second question - transformers
> > >
> > > Look at what the rear panel is rated for (in Amps) then convert to
> > Watts,
> > > using W =VA. (actually there may be a 0.6 factor there as well to
> > properly
> > > convert VAC, maybe someone can help out here.?)
> > >
> > > Presumably you understand that the transformer converts Voltage,
> > and you're
> > > just looking for one rated to the
> > > amount of power you're going to run through it?
> > > My Van was shipped over from the states to Germany I will need to
> > buy a
> > > transformer to be able to supply power to the van on longer trips.
> > I have
> > > been having a bear of a time figuring out the size (watts)
> > transformer I
> > > need to buy. The Px sells them in 50,300,750 and 1000.
> > >
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"S" switch on dash?

 

Just bought a 93 EV MV. There's a rocker switch with an orange light
in it on the top row of switches (above the recircuate air
switch)labeled with simply "S". Neither the Owners nor Supplemental
Manuals discuss it. Anyone know the function of this switch?


Re: Propane filling question

John Waterman
 

Larry,
To purge the tank, they will put some propane in (only a small amount) and then
bleed it out. This process is repeated 4 or 5 times (losing maybe a few pounds
of propane) in order to purge the tank of air left in after manufacturing. If
you do not do this, you will basically have one atmosphere worth of air mixed
in with the propane. Eventually it will all bleed out, but you will likely
have problems until that occurs. Total cost of purging the tank shouldn't be
more that two or three dollars worth of propane.
John

Larry Schellhase wrote:

John, what do they do when they purge a propane tank,
does that mean they fill it to the 80% level, empty
the tank and fill it again, three times?

Thanks for your help.

--- John Waterman <jwwaterman@...> wrote:
Mary,
For the first time, go to a real propane dealer.
Ask that they purge your
tank 3 or four times before filling. It will save
you a lot of time later.
John

Mary Schilpp wrote:

I am ready to fill up my new 99 EVC w/ propane,
and check it all out,
but I don't know if I need to go to a special RV
propane filling
station, or can I go to a place that fills BBQ
grills? Thanks for your
help to this somewhat silly question- Mary

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99 Weekender(poptop)for sale $33k.

Bruce Braun
 

I have been driving my Westfalia Weekender a lot and enjoyed 27,000
highway miles of this big USA. It's clean and well maintained. No
kids, dogs or smokers so it looks like new inside. No body damage
or repaint anywhere. I've always used a bra so it looks great on the
front. It's a strange metallic blue. There is no lien and the title
is
clear. Located in Kansas City 913 962 0088 days and 913 962 2521 eves
and weekends. I can email pictures to serious buyer. Bruce


Re: Good Shops Bad Shops

 

Joan-

Sounds like a good idea to me, it would be nice to have when traveling. I
have not seen such a list for EV's, maybe I missed it too. Does anyone know
the best (least time intensive) way to develop this list. I can give some
input for Michigan.

Blaine

<< I know it's been done on other VW-related sites, and I think through Limbo,
too, but if anyone else would be interested in an organized state by state
list of good and bad experiences with EV mechanics or dealers, I'd be happy
to put one together. I have no idea if there are legal consequences or not,
but if so, we could keep it private, available by request only, maybe?

And if it's been done and I've missed it, unh, nevermind ....

Joan >>


Re: "S" switch on dash?

 

In a message dated 05/03/2000 10:08:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
kgervais@... writes:

Just bought a 93 EV MV. There's a rocker switch with an orange light
in it on the top row of switches (above the recircuate air
switch)labeled with simply "S". Neither the Owners nor Supplemental
Manuals discuss it. Anyone know the function of this switch?
You must have the automatic transmission. That switch causes a change in the
A/T program to Sport which affects when the transmission shifts. "S" is
particularly good when riding in in-city traffic and on hills.

Bob Williams
93 Weekender with 5-speed
VIN: WV2MC0700PH104774
Severna Park, MD


New Tires

 

I have a 93 Eurovan automatic with 96K miles bought at 85K.

Back before Christmas, I purchased two new Michelins to replace the worn
front tires and because the weight rating was only 92. The dealer said he
couldn't get anything higher than 94 and I let him talk me into buying them.
When I got home to check, they were only 92!

The van has always felt like the shocks were worn out when going over
bumps and RR tracks. I decided to go back to the same dealer and get
Agila (sp?) Michelins special ordered. Different guy was there, I told him
my story and he gave me full credit for the 2 tires toward a set of the
Agila's!!!

The van drives like a different vehicle. Much more confidence in handling
and much less excitement going over bumps. Thanks to this list for
getting me off my can and buying the correct tires!

Lynn Sheeley
Knoxville, Tenn.


Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

Steven Wertheim
 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I'm in Wuerzburg.? What year did you say your Eurovan was?? I have all the manuals for the '99.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:48 AM
Subject: AW: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

Thank you for the good information. I think, after reading your message and the others before, that going with a new 1000W transformer is the best bet. My frustration comes from not having a manual to read through. The larger Eurovan manual put out by Winnebago says very little.

?

I think its time to buy a better manual.

?

SO, where in Germany are you hanging out?

?

Servus, (that should give a you a clue about my general whereabouts)

?

Caroline (with a rolling ¡®r¡¯)

?

-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Steven Wertheim [mailto:wertheim@...]
Gesendet: May 01, 2000 19:56
An: ev_update@...
Betreff: Re: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it up in?

?

1.? Large vs small transformer:? I second the notion that you would be wise
to err on the side of a too large transformer than a too small one.? I
personally don't want to be worrying all the time about exceeding the
capacity of the transformer and having a meltdown.? If you decide to add up
all of the power drain from the various things you're going to use in the
camper you should figure in a bit extra for overhead that you might not be
aware of.? Does the charging circuitry use power?? What is the draw from the
furnace when it is operating (including the fan and other electrical items
in the furnace)?? Also, I don't think it's a good idea to use a 300 watt
transformer to run 300 watts of power drain.? I think the transformers put
out less than they are rated for.? (I think that's the .6 that was mentioned
below.)

2.? New vs. used transformer:? I have a '99 EVC and I live in Germany.? I
bought a used 750 watt transformer from the thrift shop and on the second
outing last year it started to make a loud noise.? I stopped using it
immediately.? I've decided to invest in a new one.? My thinking goes like
this- I just spent $35,000 on this wonderful camper with all of it's
intricate electrical charging circuitry.? Why am I quibbling over $100 to
insure that I don't cause an electrical problem.? I think that if I
inadvertantly mess up the electric system in the van, I'll have to pay the
local Winnebago people alot more than $100 to fix it.? On the other hand,
perhaps you can find a transformer in like-new condition from someone you
trust.

So my opinion is not to skimp on a relatively inexpensive item that you'll
be using pretty regularly, whenever you plug in at a campground.

Steve
'99 EVC (in Germany)

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Rousseau
To:
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 7:09 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel
to look it up in?


> Caroline,
>
> I think what you really need to know is your power budget.? A 300W
> transformer is as good as 1000W, if you power budget stays under
> 300W.? However above 300W, it becomes unusable, whereas the 1000W
> will work albeit at more cost and weight/space.? What will you be
> plugging into to this power source?? Most applliances have a little
> sticker or info panel stating how much power or current(~X120 for
> power).? Add up everything you might have running simultaneously and
> that will be your total power budget.? FOr example a space heater is
> typically 1000-1500Watts, a microwave ~500-1000W, a lightbulb 60-
> 100W, etc...Hope this makes sense
>
> Paul EV 93 Wk
>
> > There is a significant price difference between the 300W
> transformers and
> > 1000W. I'd like to be able to go with the lowest W possible.
> >
> > I would be able to look it up in my manuel but that is destroyed by
> water.
> > Still need to get that.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Caroline
> >
> > -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jerry Carter [mailto:sanae@m...]
> > Gesendet: April 30, 2000 4:33
> > An: ev_update@...
> > Betreff: Re: AW: [ev_update] second question - transformers
> >
> > 2 cents here,
> >
> > Having lived over in England (while in the AF) a few years ago, I
> > found the weight difference between the different converters to be
> > minor.? The smallest one is still very heavy, the higher capacity
> > converters are about the same weight.
> >
> > That being the case, buy the highest capacity model you can
> > find/afford.? When you don't use it on the trip you can use it at
> > home.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > --- In ev_update@..., "Caroline Bogel" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Rick,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the answer.
> > >
> > > Yes, I understand that I need to convert from 220 to 110 Volts,
> but
> > the
> > > transformers come in different Watts. So, I need to buy one that
> > converts
> > > the correct amount of Watts into 110 Volts.(I hope that makes
> > sense
> > to me!!)
> > >
> > > On a side note, with the move over here I have had to make choices
> > about
> > > which electrical appliances to keep and buy transformers for and
> > which to
> > > sell and buy German models. With the dollar at peak performance
> its
> > been
> > > easier to buy German models. Obiviuosly that's not the case
> > with the
> > > Eurovan. My parents shipped it over for me in exchange for my
> Chevy
> > Blazer.
> > > Since I want to travel its perfect for me. I am a no-frills
> > traveler.
> > >
> > > The second hand store on base sells transformers for 750 and 1000
> > Watts, I
> > > think if they are cheap and work that will be my best bet.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Caroline
> > >
> > > -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Rick Gordon [mailto:rickgo@h...]
> > > Gesendet: April 28, 2000 9:11
> > > An: ev_update@...
> > > Betreff: Re: [ev_update] second question - transformers
> > >
> > > Look at what the rear panel is rated for (in Amps) then convert to
> > Watts,
> > > using W =VA. (actually there may be a 0.6 factor there as well to
> > properly
> > > convert VAC, maybe someone can help out here.?)
> > >
> > > Presumably you understand that the transformer converts Voltage,
> > and you're
> > > just looking for one rated to the
> > > amount of power you're going to run through it?
> > > My Van was shipped over from the states to Germany I will need to
> > buy a
> > > transformer to be able to supply power to the van on longer trips.
> > I have
> > > been having a bear of a time figuring out the size (watts)
> > transformer I
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Re: 1993 Eurovan MV Pop-Top for sale

 

--- In ev_update@..., "Richard Good" <richjess@e...> wrote:
Hello , A friend of mine was looking at a 1993 Eurovan Pop-top for
sale and wanted me to post a message as to what was a reasonable
price. The van has 115,000 miles, interior excellent, body
perfect,
tent excellent, great tires, and runs very well according to him.
I said that I was not sure what the blue book lists, but I would
like
to know if anyone has bought one recently for comparison.
Thanks,
i recently just bought a '93 westy in mint condition for $10500
w/93k....i feel really good about that, only bad side is when i went
to pick it up... i saw a nice size whole in the canvas...but still a
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Re: LP gas alarm-beep-beep-beep

Henry Julian
 

Bill:

Yes, you have to remove the fuse panel to get at it

Hank

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Segesser <bsegesser@...>
To: 'ev_update@...' <ev_update@...>
Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: [ev_update] LP gas alarm-beep-beep-beep


Henry,
was the loose ground at the fuse panel in the rear? we have this
occasionally too.
thanks
Bill
95evc

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Julian [mailto:hejulian@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 4:50 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] LP gas alarm-beep-beep-beep


We had a similar problem with the LP alarm - at the same time, things
started going haywire with the camper electrical system, come to find out,
there was a loose ground wire in the rear panel -

I will never understand why VW chose such a crappy company (Winnebago) to
outfit such a nicely crafted vehicle


-----Original Message-----
From: lynnpressnall@... <lynnpressnall@...>
To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:11 PM
Subject: [ev_update] LP gas alarm-beep-beep-beep


My LP alarm keeps beeping and beeping. When I reset the alarm it goes off
again after less that a minute. My coach battery is fully charged, I can
detect no LP gas leak, the LP is turned off, I've lit the stove to burn
out
all LP in the lines.

Any ideas? Sure couldn't sleep in it now with all that beeping.

Thanks for your help
Lynn Pressnall
'95 EVC (perfect up till now!)

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I am trying to find my way off this list can anyone help?

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To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 12:51 AM
Subject: [ev_update] Digest Number 44


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There are 20 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: sink/stove lid shocks
From: "Marvin Westenburg" <westenburg@...>
2. Re: 93 MV Weekender for sale
From: "Barbara Welkey" <dudley1@...>
3. Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it
up in?
From: "Donald Gibbons" <gibbonsnc@...>
4. Re: Re: 93 MV Weekender for sale
From: modcat@...
5. Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it
up in?
From: "Marvin Westenburg" <westenburg@...>
6. Re: Re: sink/stove lid shocks
From: Grinam709599295@...
7. A way to get drivers seat in EVC to swivel clockwise
From: "Ray & Mary Ellen" <racooke@...>
8. Re: EVC seats don't swivel clockwise, unless . . .
From: "Floyd Truskot" <wolfsburg@...>
9. Re: Re: sink/stove lid shocks
From: "Marvin Westenburg" <westenburg@...>
10. 99Euro winnebago question
From: frazev@...
11. Re: 99Euro winnebago question
From: morrismec@...
12. Re: 99Euro winnebago question
From: ahbdsq@...
13. Re: 99Euro winnebago question
From: frazev@...
14. Re: "tickle" chargers
From: louwsma@...
15. Re: 99Euro winnebago question
From: louwsma@...
16. Re: Rear hatch glass explodes
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>
17. Re: 99Euro winnebago question
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>
18. EVC Sighting in Jalama Beach
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>
19. Re: The Flying Carpet Has Landed, Gary C Travelogue
From: Charles Bragg <cgbragg@...>
20. Re: Tennis Balls +
From: SWLINK@...


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:27:23 -0000
From: "Marvin Westenburg" <westenburg@...>
Subject: Re: sink/stove lid shocks

I got mine from MobilityRV. They are called gas springs.
is their web site; you order by phone,
number is on the web site. Service was excellent. They seem to be
able to get anything that is available as a replacement part for the
Winnebago part of the
EVC. I only replaced one; the new ones are pretty powerful; kept the
second one as a spare.
Marve
'95 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., Grinam709599295@a... wrote:
Anyone know of a source other than VW of A for replacement
stove/sink lid
pneumatic shocks? (If they were Bilsteins they would still work!)
Mine no
longer hold the lid over the sink/stove in an up right position
(and if yours
are working, they too will fail in time ... so beware ...
read "ouch!")
Camper World only has the longer ones. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks.


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:37:45 -0000
From: "Barbara Welkey" <dudley1@...>
Subject: Re: 93 MV Weekender for sale

--- In ev_update@...,
WSArmstron@a... wrote:
Barbara -
What? You're selling "The Pickle"? What do the kids have to
say about
this?
Bill
Hi Bill - Yes, the "Pickle" ('93 EV MV
Weekender) is for sale. The reason? We got
an excellent deal on a '99 Eurovan MV!
While it's nice, in many ways I like the '93
better and will be sad when it's sold. . . lots
of really good memories too. If you know of
anyone who might be interested, please let
them know. It's in excellent condition.
Barbara




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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:39:23 -0000
From: "Donald Gibbons" <gibbonsnc@...>
Subject: Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it
up in?

I just got back from a trip to Singapore, Boy was that a long drive
:) But I did bring the normal electrical devices with me. And I did
not need any transformers. See if you can look at the name plates on
any electrical devices you will be using, most of them will say
"110/200 volts" Do the same for the battery charger thing in the
camper. Now that might be a good idea, Just find a 220 volt battery
charger thing if its necessary. You might not need the transformer,
just some adaptors.





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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:33:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: modcat@...
Subject: Re: Re: 93 MV Weekender for sale

How much are you asking for the 93 mv.



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:44:41 -0000
From: "Marvin Westenburg" <westenburg@...>
Subject: Re: transformers - Does anyone have a readable manuel to look it
up in?

Caroline,
The fridge uses 140 W on AC and I don't think the converter uses more
than that. If you aren't planning on using 110 V appliances in the
camper, a 300 W transformer should do it. You can always run the
fridge on propane if you need the transformer capacity for something
else.
If you buy a transformer from the second hand store, you can probably
sell it for about what you pay for it when your tour is over.
Marve
'95 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., "Caroline Bogel" <bogel@b...> wrote:
There is a significant price difference between the 300W
transformers and
1000W. I'd like to be able to go with the lowest W possible.

I would be able to look it up in my manuel but that is destroyed by
water.
Still need to get that.


Thanks,

Caroline

-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jerry Carter [mailto:sanae@m...]
Gesendet: April 30, 2000 4:33
An: ev_update@...
Betreff: Re: AW: [ev_update] second question - transformers

2 cents here,

Having lived over in England (while in the AF) a few years ago, I
found the weight difference between the different converters to be
minor. The smallest one is still very heavy, the higher capacity
converters are about the same weight.

That being the case, buy the highest capacity model you can
find/afford. When you don't use it on the trip you can use it at
home.

Jerry

--- In ev_update@..., "Caroline Bogel" <bogel@b...> wrote:
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Hi Rick,

Thanks for the answer

Yes, I understand that I need to convert from 220 to 110 Volts,
but
the
transformers come in different Watts. So, I need to buy one that
converts
the correct amount of Watts into 110 Volts(I hope that makes
sense
to me!!)

On a side note, with the move over here I have had to make choices
about
which electrical appliances to keep and buy transformers for and
which to
sell and buy German models. With the dollar at peak performance
its
been
easier to buy German models. Obiviuosly that's not the case
with the
Eurovan. My parents shipped it over for me in exchange for my
Chevy
Blazer.
Since I want to travel its perfect for me I am a no-frills
traveler.

The second hand store on base sells transformers for 750 and 1000
Watts, I
think if they are cheap and work that will be my best bet.

Thanks again,

Caroline

-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rick Gordon [mailto:rickgo@h...]
Gesendet: April 28, 2000 9:11
An: ev_update@...
Betreff: Re: [ev_update] second question - transformers

Look at what the rear panel is rated for (in Amps) then convert to
Watts,
using W =VA. (actually there may be a 0.6 factor there as well to
properly
convert VAC, maybe someone can help out here.?)

Presumably you understand that the transformer converts Voltage,
and you're
just looking for one rated to the
amount of power you're going to run through it?
My Van was shipped over from the states to Germany I will need to
buy a
transformer to be able to supply power to the van on longer trips.
I have
been having a bear of a time figuring out the size (watts)
transformer I
need to buy. The Px sells them in 50,300,750 and 1000.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:27:33 EDT
From: Grinam709599295@...
Subject: Re: Re: sink/stove lid shocks

In a message dated 4/30/2000 5:27:48 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
westenburg@... writes:

<< I got mine from MobilityRV. They are called gas springs.
is their web site; you order by phone,
number is on the web site. Service was excellent. They seem to be
able to get anything that is available as a replacement part for the
Winnebago part of the
EVC. I only replaced one; the new ones are pretty powerful; kept the
second one as a spare.
Marve
'95 EVC >>


Marve, what did they cost? Thanks.....


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:37:19 -0000
From: "Ray & Mary Ellen" <racooke@...>
Subject: A way to get drivers seat in EVC to swivel clockwise

<byeager@w...> wrote:
USA seats are made by Winnebago. The Canada ones may be VW or
Nope. Canada gets the same proven, six-sigma EVC components and
installation that the US does. It is the same vehicle in 97-99
(sorry
-no idea whether any of the components in the rialta are the same)
The Difference: The Canadian one DID swivel clockwise, and it was so
much easier to use. I have to admire those of you who swivel it
around often (and back) that 250 degree arc rather than the easy 110
degree arc that it could be clockwise.

What we do know is that the only reason the drivers side seat in the
EVC only rotates to counterclockwise (not the way you would want them
to) is something about the way the pin that engages the ignition
lockout rides on the circumference of a circular metal guide with a
notch.

The question is: Has anyone just modified that metal guide slightly
by
rounding off that 3/16" point that obstructs the pin going clockwise?

Anyone have a good reason not to do that? I am not talking about
messing with the lockout at all, only the guide that may have been
modified in the 98 that I rented that DID rotate (easily) clockwise
and it was a great way to have it?

Under the seat, it looks like the slot for that springed pin is
ground
off only on one side (toward anticlockwise) and only about 3/16"
SO
unless there is a safety issue, 360-degree nirvana may await if we
grind off that same amount on the other side. Anybody do this?
Anybody not have to and still swivel 360 degrees? Or have I
missed
something.

The bench grinder seems reasonable, but we are still under
warranty,
so I'm torn. Why would one defeat this in the US and not in
Canada?

Influencial lobbyists perhaps? But which lobbyists . . .?

Ray
2000EVC


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:41:49 -0000
From: "Floyd Truskot" <wolfsburg@...>
Subject: Re: EVC seats don't swivel clockwise, unless . . .

As one of Volkwagen's customer that uses a wheelchair for my mobility
needs, I purchased a 1999 Eurovan last November. From my experience
with the Vanagon generation, I had a power swivel seat installed in
my Vanagon. Over the years it was a headache because wires would
break, cluthes would wear out, connectors would loosen, gear teeth
would break, ...

So in my new Eurovan I wanted a swivel seat that was less
maintenance,
so I installed the swivel from the Eurovan camper version. The
swivel
IS made by Volkswagen in Germany. Model years 1993-1997 did swivel
bi-directional. 1998 Volkswagen made a new flange under the swivel
that force the swivel to rotate counter clockwise only. This was due
to the emergency brake lever near the seat base. To make the swivel
rotate bi-directional, I got a Dremel power tool with a grinding
wheel
on it and made the flange symmetrical. If you look under the swivel
base, you will see how a ball-bearing wheel guides itself along the
flange. It took me about 30 minutes to grind by hand. There is also a
stop plate that Volkswagen welded to the base, you may need to grind
this piece off, for my needs, I didn't need to grind it off.

It took me about a hour to grind the flange down, remove the standard
seat base from the van, remove and reinstall seat on the swivel base
and mount complete swivel seat in the van.

It would be rare to find a swivel from Volkswagen that rotates
bi-directional since the mono-swivel base supersedes all other
bi-directional swivel bases.

Whether you grind this flange down or not, I don't think it will void
your warranty on the vehicle.

Feel free to email if you have any further questions.

Floyd Truskot



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:51:27 -0000
From: "Marvin Westenburg" <westenburg@...>
Subject: Re: Re: sink/stove lid shocks

As I recall, they were between 10 and 15 dollars apiece. That was a
couple years ago. Then there was a reasonable charge for shipping.
Marve
'95 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., Grinam709599295@a... wrote:
In a message dated 4/30/2000 5:27:48 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
westenburg@c... writes:

<< I got mine from MobilityRV. They are called gas springs.
is their web site; you order by
phone,
number is on the web site. Service was excellent. They seem to be
able to get anything that is available as a replacement part for
the
Winnebago part of the
EVC. I only replaced one; the new ones are pretty powerful; kept
the
second one as a spare.
Marve
'95 EVC >>


Marve, what did they cost? Thanks.....


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:20:41 -0000
From: frazev@...
Subject: 99Euro winnebago question

Hello All, I have just purchased a 99 EV Winnebago from a dealer. The
manual shows a plastic cover over the Propane controls. There is none
on mine, and I would like to know if this is a standard part or an
option on the 99s. It seems like an important item and before going
back to the dealer tomorrow, I would like to have the facts.
Thanks in advance, and I hope to contribute to the list in the future
myself.
Frazev@...



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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:06:12 EDT
From: morrismec@...
Subject: Re: 99Euro winnebago question

It was on mine as orignal equiptment, mine is a 1999.


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:07:39 EDT
From: ahbdsq@...
Subject: Re: 99Euro winnebago question

In a message dated 4/30/00 3:21:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, frazev@...
writes:

<< Hello All, I have just purchased a 99 EV Winnebago from a dealer. The
manual shows a plastic cover over the Propane controls. There is none
on mine, and I would like to know if this is a standard part or an
option on the 99s. It seems like an important item and before going
back to the dealer tomorrow, I would like to have the facts.
>>
I think is was std on 99, it was std on 00 (I just got 00). Not too
important, more like a cheap piece of plastic. I added wing nuts to hold
mine on a little longer. Not worth replacing if lost.


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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:38:33 EDT
From: frazev@...
Subject: Re: 99Euro winnebago question

Thanks for the speedy answers guys. I will be well armed tomorrow!
frazev


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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:05:33 EDT
From: louwsma@...
Subject: Re: "tickle" chargers

Yegs--exactly which model do you have and where did you get it? Thanks, JAL


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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:16:56 EDT
From: louwsma@...
Subject: Re: 99Euro winnebago question

I bought a 99EVC in January and it included the plastic cover over the
external propane ports. Also came with floormats. JAL


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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>
Subject: Re: Rear hatch glass explodes

You know, mine did exactly the same thing when I
backed into a water pipe in the parking garage.

--- Kokopelli Txirulari <txamizo@...> wrote:
First, I have to introduce myself.
My name Is Javier Burgoa and Im from Bilbao in the
north of Spain.
Im the proud owner of a 99 TDI california coach
(westfalia).
Yesterday coming back home from easter vacations
with the van just parked at
the garage, I opened the hatch door to take our
luggage.
1 minute or so after opening the hatch, the glass
broke itself suddenly.

Is this "normal"?

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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>
Subject: Re: 99Euro winnebago question

My 99 EVC came with the black plastic cover over the
propane tank, I knocked it off and destroyed it in
Death Valley and I purchased a replacement because it
looks better with that stuff covered up. Also, with
the cover in place, the propane valve isn't as
accessable to pranksters.


--- frazev@... wrote:
Hello All, I have just purchased a 99 EV Winnebago
from a dealer. The
manual shows a plastic cover over the Propane
controls. There is none
on mine, and I would like to know if this is a
standard part or an
option on the 99s. It seems like an important item
and before going
back to the dealer tomorrow, I would like to have
the facts.
Thanks in advance, and I hope to contribute to the
list in the future
myself.
Frazev@...

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>
Subject: EVC Sighting in Jalama Beach

I spent a long weekend at Jalama Beach, just north of
Santa Barbara. Jalama is a great beach campground
with an unusally large number of Westies camping
there.

On my way out of the campground today I saw what
looked like a 2000 EVC with CA dealer plates from
Encinitas, CA. Was that someone from this list?

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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:01:07 -0700
From: Charles Bragg <cgbragg@...>
Subject: Re: The Flying Carpet Has Landed, Gary C Travelogue

At 11:36 AM 04/29/2000 -0400, Sheldon wrote:
You might want to try hanging a tennis ball from the ceiling instead. Just
attach a string to a tennis ball and hang it from the ceiling so it just
makes contact with the EVC windshield when the camper is positioned exactly
where you want it in the garage. Its cheaper than a wheel stop and doesn't
create a toe stubber or tripping obstacle on the garage floor when the
camper is out of the garage.
Tennis balls can be hard to use when every inch counts. Like Bill, I have
*no* room to spare, so I used a scrap 2x2 and attached it to the garage
floor with Liquid Nails (comes in a caulking tube, available at fine stores
everywhere). Now I fold in the mirror, watch the side-wall and let the 2x2
let me know when I'm all the way in. Again, like Bill, if I gain any weight
the workbench is doomed.
I've tried tennis balls, and this is better. And I've learned to avoid
the 2x2 when the EVC is not in the garage.

-- Chuck (99 EVC Moby Auk)



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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 03:46:02 EDT
From: SWLINK@...
Subject: Re: Tennis Balls +

... and yet another use of "tennis balls" besides using them to keep ur roof
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Re: More Eurovan Secrets

 

I tried unplugging the sound module once, but I would swear that removing
it made the vehicle run very sluggishly. When I put it back in I noticed
a big difference. I've always wondered whether anyone else has removed
their beeper and had the same experience.


In <OFDA195885.3338AC1A-ON882568D3.0052FA94@...>, on 05/02/00
at 09:49 PM, <jscheller@...> said:


Caroline,
I got rid of the three tone sound by unpluging the module that was making
the sound. It is under the dash on the left side near the fuse panel. It
is long or tall and has a tiny speaker on the end of it that you can see.
Just open the door with the keys in the ignition and look, listen, and
pull. Justin

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J Henley
 

I know it's been done on other VW-related sites, and I think through Limbo,
too, but if anyone else would be interested in an organized state by state
list of good and bad experiences with EV mechanics or dealers, I'd be happy
to put one together. I have no idea if there are legal consequences or not,
but if so, we could keep it private, available by request only, maybe?

And if it's been done and I've missed it, unh, nevermind ....

Joan


Re: 2000 EVC for sale (Oneonta, NY)-Southern Dealers

Skip Correll
 

--- WSArmstron@... wrote:
In a message dated 05/01/2000 2:38:43 PM Eastern
Daylight Time,
pcbevan@... writes:
The dealership owner also bragged about some
vacationing
individual who refused
service somewhere in the South for a serious
problem and opted instead to
have his EVC loaded on a flatbed and trucked back to
VW of Oneonta so it
could be serviced by a mechanic he trusted.

Considering my experience with 2 Southern dealers, I
do not blame him. Our local dealer, VW of Chattanooga,
is better now but only after cleaning house and hiring
all new service managers and customer service reps.
They were down right rude to my wife once and I swore
never to return.

The next closest dealer, Al Johnson Volvo-VW of
Dalton, Georgia, is worse, much worse. They changed
the timing belt and water pump, left the pump lose,
retightened it after I had to have it towed back
there, and then the pump started leaking again. When I
took it back they kept it for 2 weeks before they
"could get around to it because a mechanic was out
sick." I ended up going down there to have it towed to
a local independent shop to finish the job when the
sick mechanic suddenly was healed. All in all, the
absolute worst automotive experience of my life with
the "we don't give a damn about you or your vehicle"
personified at this dealership, particularily in
individual named Scott Whitfield.

God help the visitor who breaks down on I-75 between
Atlanta and Chattanooga and is towed to Al Johnson's
Shop of Horrors. You will be better off financially
and blood pressure wise having your EV towed home to a
dealer who has competent and timely service.


Skip Correll
Chattanooga, Tn


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