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Re: [TAVIP] bbc dilivery
So what's wrong with BBC Sounds? I'm really not getting this.
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All the best Steve -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: 10 November 2022 12:21 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] [TAVIP] bbc dilivery Hi Ray There is one Speech Radio app for Android and one for the iPhone. I think when BWBF set up BBC on the Sonata they used the higher quality streams. I am hoping that Speech Radio might also use these streams. It should be easier to navigate than BBC Sounds. Although I have not tried it yet, the description says you can speak or use gestures to access the app. This could be useful for people who find touch screens difficult. Are you able to add apps to your Synapptic phone? Pele |
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Re: [TAVIP] bbc dilivery
Yes Pele, I can add apps, though I still find it rather a pain. Assuming this to be a free app then I do not have to bother about setting up an account to download this app.
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I am still psycing myself up to link my Amazon smart speaker to BBC Sounds.? this is down to Synaptic, seemingly installing the Sounds app which bundles with their software to an email address of their choosing which, although a GMail address isn't the one I have used to sign up to Sounds!? so, I am guessing this is why, when my speaker sends a link it in fact opens in the app but without me being able to do anything with it!? Seems an unnecessary mess, but there it is. Leaves me wondering if indeed we are to be forced down the Sounds route then it should probably be pre-installed on future devices with the password sent to us securely for the times we may need it. Sorry for the lengthy post, but I am an avid radio listener who gets full value from the licence fee.? Anyone needing an easy way to see 4Extrra's schedule for the week ahead could do worse than subscribe to the 4Extra emails that Pele sends out. Ray. On 10/11/2022 12:21 pm, Pele West wrote:
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Re: [TAVIP] bbc dilivery
Hi Ray
There is one Speech Radio app for Android and one for the iPhone. I think when BWBF set up BBC on the Sonata they used the higher quality streams. I am hoping that Speech Radio might also use these streams. It should be easier to navigate than BBC Sounds. Although I have not tried it yet, the description says you can speak or use gestures to access the app. This could be useful for people who find touch screens difficult. Are you able to add apps to your Synapptic phone? Pele |
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Re: old v.i. equipment
Hi Adrian. Is it a first gen or 2nd gen? Would be interesting if it was a second gen. Best Mrs Villa
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Hi I am sorting out my stuff getting ready to move next year but I have a couple of old vr streams, one still works and one is only good for spares, I also have spare batteries and chargers, does anyone use the old stream still and would like to find a good home for these gadgets. I also have a parat voice mate, again, only good for spares, is anyone interested in these? Regards Adrien -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: 10 November 2022 07:38 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Radio 4 LW AND FM now same feed on Humanware player feeds Replying, perhaps sadly, to my earlier message here. It seems just about every specialist device I have is getting the cessation of feeds message from BBC Sounds. this included the Synapptic radio player feature which seemignly operates outside of BBC Sounds. I tried finding another feed via the ooTunes search facility on the trek and found a Flash feed but that too is getting the message! So to speak. So, I think the only way from middle of next year is probably going to be via BBC Sounds, with all that entails, i.e. setting up an account. This said, if this is so, then will there be any international feeds left for BBC radio at all? Ray. On 09/11/2022 12:17 pm, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote: Had meant to post here rather than Vi-gen access. Modified subject |
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Re: [TAVIP] bbc dilivery
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks Pele.? Very useful to see this.? I would have caught up with Jackie's post tomorrow as I am on digest mode for that list.
I assume there are two different apps for iPhones and Android phones?? I put the question as Jackie seems to imply the same app is meant to work on both operating systems.
Apologise if I have said this already but my feeling increasingly is that the BBC wants to route everyone who wants to listen to BBC radio through BBC Sounds.
Given the demise of Wireless for Blind Sonata internet radio I am guessing this is some sort of replacement for its radiofunctionality - along with the podcast app on its way. that's ok for people who are used to touch screens but does not address those who are not into swipe and tap interfaces.
In closing I give a brief mention to Qcast for Windows which I have been using for around a year or more now.? Works very well.? Though the website does look rather out-of-date, I assure you the latest version does work on Win10.
(this is a paid for program but costs no more than $20 as I recall.
Ray. ?
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[TAVIP] bbc dilivery
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello EveryoneI thought some of you might be interested in this message from Jackie Brown about an app from Wireless for the Blind called Speech Radio. I have installed it on my Android phone and it does not work, but I have written to the developer and he is investigating. So it might work in time. As you will see, it seems to work if you load it on an iPhone. Pele West -------- Forwarded Message --------
I don¡¯t know if people have heard of this app, maybe I am late to this particular party, but have you tried using Speech Radio?? It is an app developed by BWBF.? I was at a presentation at work yesterday where David Beard of BWBF told us about the app.? He said it works on both iOS and Android so Martin and I downloaded it on our respective handsets last night with very different results.? I was able to search for and add stations to my Favourites list.? I could choose by country and genre using the very straightforward interface on iOS.? But Martin got nothing but ¡®space, space, space¡¯ when he installed it on Android.? If anyone has tried it on the latter, and has better results than Martin did, I would be interested to know, otherwise I will have to contact BWBF to say that it doesn¡¯t work on Android.? I believe they will be bringing out a podcast app similar to Speech Radio some time next year. ? ? From:
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Steve Nutt ? Yes, I have heard of it. ? And I think it is the long goodbye for specialist players. Speakers like Sonos connect to BBC Sounds directly, and I think these players are going to have to do that. ? All the best
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Sent: 09 November 2022 18:12 To: discussion@... Subject: [TAVIP] bbc dilivery ? I received messages both on my plextalk and vrs whilst listening to bbc radio 4 saying that bbc radio is not going to be provided on these devices as well as smart speakers as from mid 2023. It advises people to contact the manufacturers. We are advised to use the internet and bbc sounds. Has anybody else heard of this?. Surely at least vrs should be updated by then to enable the device to receive bbc sounds. Any thoughts. Is there a similar device out there which will receive sounds. Kind regards, Dennis huckle. ? --- --- --- |
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old v.i. equipment
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I am sorting out my stuff getting ready to move next year but I have a couple of old vr streams, one still works and one is only good for spares, I also have spare batteries and chargers, does anyone use the old stream still and would like to find a good home for these gadgets. I also have a parat voice mate, again, only good for spares, is anyone interested in these? Regards Adrien -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists Sent: 10 November 2022 07:38 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Radio 4 LW AND FM now same feed on Humanware player feeds Replying, perhaps sadly, to my earlier message here. It seems just about every specialist device I have is getting the cessation of feeds message from BBC Sounds. this included the Synapptic radio player feature which seemignly operates outside of BBC Sounds. I tried finding another feed via the ooTunes search facility on the trek and found a Flash feed but that too is getting the message! So to speak. So, I think the only way from middle of next year is probably going to be via BBC Sounds, with all that entails, i.e. setting up an account. This said, if this is so, then will there be any international feeds left for BBC radio at all? Ray. On 09/11/2022 12:17 pm, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote: Had meant to post here rather than Vi-gen access. Modified subject |
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Re: Radio 4 LW AND FM now same feed on Humanware player feeds
Replying, perhaps sadly, to my earlier message here.
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It seems just about every specialist device I have is getting the cessation of feeds message from BBC Sounds.? this included the Synapptic radio player feature which seemignly operates outside of BBC Sounds. I tried finding another feed via the ooTunes search facility on the trek and found a Flash feed but that too is getting the message!? So to speak. So, I think the only way from middle of next year is probably going to be via BBC Sounds, with all that entails, i.e. setting up an account.? This said, if this is so, then will there be any international feeds left for BBC radio at all? Ray. On 09/11/2022 12:17 pm, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:
Had meant to post here rather than Vi-gen access.? Modified subject line is what I am going on about! |
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Radio 4 LW AND FM now same feed on Humanware player feeds
Had meant to post here rather than Vi-gen access.? Modified subject line is what I am going on about!
Today and yesterday I have noticed that the Radio 4 FM feed is in fact the Radio 4 LW feed now.? So, at 09:45 I have the Dailly Service, not Mariella Springs excellent series on conspiracy theorists? and internet trolls.So, LW and FM feeds are now strapped together.? I do not need my dailly dose of Daily Service, but I am guessing that occasionally sport will appear on the two common feeds simultaniously which is not to my liking. So, what is going on?? Another enquiry to BBC Sounds to get an answer? The message announcing ceasing of these feeds stil comes in sporadically at around one minute to the hour. Not heard them either on the BC 2 phone yet, or Synapptic. Ray. |
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Re: Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
It was very strange that I didn't get any message when I was listen to BBC Radio 5 live Ben Radio 4 later on. I was using my Victor trick so I wonder if that made a difference? I was using my own playlist not the human where suggested playlist. Best Mrs Villa
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Paul, we established a day or two ago that Humanware uses OOtune, thanks to posts from Pele and Adian who reminded me of this. Perhaps you have only just subscribed to this list but I started this discussion about some of the BBC radio feeds being discontinued. Pele reported hearing the short message from BBC Sounds while listening via the standard HW UK playlist, so it is seemingly these feeds as well as others that Pele has tapped into in creating her own playlists that are effected. Humanware say they will address the problem if and when the feeds on the VR players stop functioning. A brief remark in the messae I got from Humanware sales hinted that there should be good news next year about a new player development but I have heard nothing about this. Ray. On 06/11/2022 05:32 pm, Paul Roberts via groups.io wrote: The stream uses Ootunes, although I'm not sure if they use any other services too. |
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Re: Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
Paul, we established a day or two ago that Humanware uses OOtune, thanks to posts from Pele and Adian who reminded me of this.
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Perhaps you have only just subscribed to this list but I started this discussion about some of the BBC radio feeds being discontinued.? Pele reported hearing the short message from BBC Sounds while listening via the standard HW UK playlist, so it is seemingly these feeds as well as others that Pele has tapped into in creating her own playlists that are effected. Humanware say they will address the problem if and when the feeds on the VR players stop functioning. A brief remark in the messae I got from Humanware sales hinted that there should be good news next year about a new player development but I have heard nothing about this. Ray. On 06/11/2022 05:32 pm, Paul Roberts via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
The stream uses Ootunes, although I'm not sure if they use any other services too.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 04 November 2022 10:06 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023 I don't know about the Stream, but the Milestone uses VTuner. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: 04 November 2022 08:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023 Hi Ray I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them. Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware. Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams. Pele West |
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Couple of podcasts worth dropping into
Thought I'd mention two podcasts I listened to last night not long after they had dropped.
First one, Mosen at Large, I've followed for a long time.? As it happens I was listening on my Blindshell Classic 2 phone and one of the features was on the BC2audio book player.? this doesn't presently support DAISY books but Jonathan's demo of downloading, locating and playing books (including Audible) is worth a listen. Direct link: the second one is possibly lighter listening.? the British Broadcasting Century.? Unsurprisingly it has a lot to say about one hundred years of the BBC but it is produced outside of the BBC sphere. A constructively critical discussion with the former presenter of Radio 4's Feedback presenter, roger Bolton,? is part of the latest episode touching on the future of the BBC. In closing perhaps worth saying that audio players generally are often quite good on phones, whether aimed at the blindness market or not, and a reminder of the competition these days to players in the specialist player market.? One thing missing from specialist players and specialist phones alike is the lack of moving by chapter which, given the length of Jonathan Mosen's offering, is especially anoying. Ray. |
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Re: Don't Panic! Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
How long did you have the radio on for pele? Best Mrs Villa
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Hi Ray I think we still have a problem. I listened to Radio 4 from the Humanware Playlist this morning and heard the message about the streams just before 6:00. So now I am very confused. Pele |
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Don't Panic! Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
This is by way of an apology if anyone has been worried unecessarily about forthcoming BBC Sounds ending of some radio internet feeds.
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As Pele reminded me yesterday, she had supplied her playlists of a year or two back which I use on my second Vr player which has trouble with the standard UK playlist in that it hangs up or refuses to load stations when moving around stations.? A second one I have is not nearly so troublesome On the Trek that works propperly I do NOT get the messages interjected by BBC Sounds, so I must conclude the other playlist I am using compiled from UK radio feeds, is the one using streams the Beeb will discontinue next year. This is not to say some people might find their radio stations will not play some time next year, but these are probably players that are five years old or older. I would think those using other players incorporated into Synapptic's software are going to have no problems.? In fact Synapptic does offer BBC Sounds in it installed apps list, but also under the entertainment section access to BBC iPlayer which is devided into radio and TV.? Using this to access radio - and TV of course - does require setting up an account with an email address and password. My problem linking Alexa to BBC sounds is going to require some searching in Sounds for the solution.? In short, I get a message from Sounds to ender credentials into the two fields, but these are not available for editing!? It would appear that maybe the BBC Sounds app might have to de-activated and re-activated to get access to BBC radio feeds.? What a Phaff! apologies again to those who may have been caused anxiety over this, but worth bearing in mind that access to BBC and sometimes other radio on the internet is not always problem free. ray. S On 04/11/2022 06:25 pm, Mrs villa wrote:
Hi Ray, I listened for a bit on my stream to BBC Radio 4. I didn't get any message. I was using my favourites radio list. When you got the message you told us about, how long did you have the radio on 4? Best Mrs Villa |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi. It does come with a usb cable and connects to usb 2, 3, maybe the new usb c. Marvin. |
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Re: Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
Hi Ray, I listened for a bit on my stream to BBC Radio 4. I didn't get any message. I was using my favourites radio list. When you got the message you told us about, how long did you have the radio on 4? Best Mrs Villa
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Sad or what to be to my own message? Just had a short message from HW saying when the Stream stops playing those streams then contact them and someone in Canada will put out another set of streams to use. so we have to waite until nothing is heard from the BBC streams? He also said there should be some "exciting news" from Humanware early next year. We waite with bated breath! Ray. On 04/11/2022 05:09 pm, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote: You're right of course Pele. I never did see the point of using apps |
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Re: BBC Sounds reply, [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
Hi Everyone
Here are two different streams for Radio 4 FM that the Victor Reader Stream will play: Radio 4 on Humanware Playlist Radio 4 on the Playlist I made of streams taken from UK Radio Feeds File5= I don't think BBC stations are on TuneIn anymore but they might still be onOoTunes, which is the database the Victor Reader Stream uses. Sorry if I have confused things even more. Pele |
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Re: BBC Sounds reply, [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023
Oh, I was using your playlist Pele, and I still use others you have sent me in the past.
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I cannot recall now where you get your URLs used in your playlists, but I have found a couple of sources for finding BBC streams, including some high quality ones, which work on a PC but not at all with the Humanware players. there is a price for using higher quality streams:? latency. that matters of course should you be joining in a phone in perhaps. I will give the Humanware playlist another go but I find my players often have difficulty when it comes to moving around quickly to listen to different stations.? I all too often get the "please waite" message, and often stations will not load repeatedly. I do not think there is a problem with my Wi-Fi or internet connection as I know it is almost as good as it gets for a connection that's not at the moment fibre to the home. Ray. On 04/11/2022 05:33 pm, Pele West wrote:
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