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On 04/11/2022 05:09 pm, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

You're right of course Pele.? I never did see the point of using apps to listen to commercial stations, but I suppose it serve some marketing need or other.


I am not sure the VR players ever did handle M4a streams all that well.? I think the modems they use just cannot handle the bandwidth.


I suggested in my email to Humanware Sales the VR players are in fact due a much needed update, but who amongst us is holding their breath?


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 04:58 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

Thanks for recording this message about the BBC streams. I listened to Radio 4 just before 1 PM but did not hear it.

This seems to be the way things are going. Some commercial stations like Absolute Radio and Planet Rock no longer work on the stream or the Trek or internet radios as the owners have changed the streams. I think there is an app for the phone.

Pele

On 04/11/2022 04:58 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

Thanks for recording this message about the BBC streams. I listened to Radio 4 just before 1 PM but did not hear it.

This seems to be the way things are going. Some commercial stations like Absolute Radio and Planet Rock no longer work on the stream or the Trek or internet radios as the owners have changed the streams. I think there is an app for the phone.

Pele

On 04/11/2022 04:00 pm, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

I know the actual service the stream uses is ootunes, I assume the streams hw provides come from there too. It seems this is going to be a bigger issue but will see.

Regards

Adrien

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 04 November 2022 10:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

I don't know about the Stream, but the Milestone uses VTuner.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 04 November 2022 08:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hi Ray

I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them.

Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware.

Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams.

Pele West

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 04 November 2022 10:06
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

I don't know about the Stream, but the Milestone uses VTuner.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 04 November 2022 08:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hi Ray

I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them.

Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware.

Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams.

Pele West

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Interesting Steve, but this only deepens the mystery for me. Its precisely because Amazon speakers cannot access TuneIn streams that I am having all the grief I am experiencing linking my Bose Smart speaker to BBC Sounds as Amazon always tell me it cannot access these streams via TuneIn!


In fact it wil not play Mushroom FM without inviting me to subscribe to another Amazon service! What a Farce!


Ray.

Mushrooom



On 04/11/2022 03:51 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

As far as I know, they are using Tune In streams, which I didn't think use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Thanks for that Steve. so, if they are not using the Shoutcast streams then what are the streams HW are tapping into? If the Stream players are not using Shoutcast then why these messages being delivered on these players?


Any ideas?


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 03:41 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Ray,

This gives me a better understanding. If they are only removing Shoutcast, then we have nothing to worry about.

Your Stream doesn't use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players
we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hope those following this conversation will find this reply from BBC
Sounds interesting, if not very encouraging for some users of
specialist players.(Note RNIB's role as advice provider in all this.)


Forwarded message:


Thank you for contacting BBC Sounds regarding the message you're hearing about your radio streams stopping next year.

The BBC uses several streaming technologies to deliver BBC Sounds. One of these is called Shoutcast which the BBC will stop using by mid-2023.
We recommend that if you hear the message advising of the change, to follow the advice and get in contact with the manufacturer. It might be possible for the device to be updated to use another of stream technologies that we will continue to use (HLS and DASH). However, in your case, I believe the Victor Reader Trek is provided by the RNIB in the UK. So please contact the RNIB instead of the manufacturer.

We did already discuss these changes with the RNIB and I believe they did not think they would be affected by this change. It’s possible the RNIB will raise this with manufacturer Humanware.

I hope you find that helpful.

I will also explain why we are making this change. Shoutcast is an older streaming technology and many connected radio devices in the UK no longer use it. Ending support for Shoutcast will enable us to focus on HLS and DASH - the two most popular technologies currently used. As well as delivering better value, it will allow us to understand more on how our content is consumed. This forms part of our strategy for BBC Sounds and is important to help us improve the services we offer to our listeners. We informed manufacturers and other service providers of this change in May 2022.

Thanks again for getting in touch. I hope this has helped.

Kind regards,
Sarah Smith

BBC iPlayer & BBC Sounds Support Team



(end of BBC Sounds message)


I shall forward this to Humanware and maybe even In Touch but I think we can say BBC streams will be broken for some internet listeners some time next year unless some or all specialist player providers can come up with a solution. This I doubt; not without a substantial software or hardware update.


Ray.



On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele. I might contact you privately as
to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just
before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this
morning. If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear
the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:


n
nouncement_09_58_November4_2022.mp3?dl=1



Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group
it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR
Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen
to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds
on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am
afraid.

Pele

On 04/11/2022 03:51 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

As far as I know, they are using Tune In streams, which I didn't think use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Thanks for that Steve. so, if they are not using the Shoutcast streams then what are the streams HW are tapping into? If the Stream players are not using Shoutcast then why these messages being delivered on these players?


Any ideas?


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 03:41 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Ray,

This gives me a better understanding. If they are only removing Shoutcast, then we have nothing to worry about.

Your Stream doesn't use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players
we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hope those following this conversation will find this reply from BBC
Sounds interesting, if not very encouraging for some users of
specialist players.(Note RNIB's role as advice provider in all this.)


Forwarded message:


Thank you for contacting BBC Sounds regarding the message you're hearing about your radio streams stopping next year.

The BBC uses several streaming technologies to deliver BBC Sounds. One of these is called Shoutcast which the BBC will stop using by mid-2023.
We recommend that if you hear the message advising of the change, to follow the advice and get in contact with the manufacturer. It might be possible for the device to be updated to use another of stream technologies that we will continue to use (HLS and DASH). However, in your case, I believe the Victor Reader Trek is provided by the RNIB in the UK. So please contact the RNIB instead of the manufacturer.

We did already discuss these changes with the RNIB and I believe they did not think they would be affected by this change. It’s possible the RNIB will raise this with manufacturer Humanware.

I hope you find that helpful.

I will also explain why we are making this change. Shoutcast is an older streaming technology and many connected radio devices in the UK no longer use it. Ending support for Shoutcast will enable us to focus on HLS and DASH - the two most popular technologies currently used. As well as delivering better value, it will allow us to understand more on how our content is consumed. This forms part of our strategy for BBC Sounds and is important to help us improve the services we offer to our listeners. We informed manufacturers and other service providers of this change in May 2022.

Thanks again for getting in touch. I hope this has helped.

Kind regards,
Sarah Smith

BBC iPlayer & BBC Sounds Support Team



(end of BBC Sounds message)


I shall forward this to Humanware and maybe even In Touch but I think we can say BBC streams will be broken for some internet listeners some time next year unless some or all specialist player providers can come up with a solution. This I doubt; not without a substantial software or hardware update.


Ray.



On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele. I might contact you privately as
to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just
before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this
morning. If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear
the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:


n
nouncement_09_58_November4_2022.mp3?dl=1



Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group
it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR
Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen
to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds
on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am
afraid.

Pele

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Thanks for that Steve. so, if they are not using the Shoutcast streams then what are the streams HW are tapping into? If the Stream players are not using Shoutcast then why these messages being delivered on these players?


Any ideas?


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 03:41 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Ray,

This gives me a better understanding. If they are only removing Shoutcast, then we have nothing to worry about.

Your Stream doesn't use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players
we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hope those following this conversation will find this reply from BBC
Sounds interesting, if not very encouraging for some users of
specialist players.(Note RNIB's role as advice provider in all this.)


Forwarded message:


Thank you for contacting BBC Sounds regarding the message you're hearing about your radio streams stopping next year.

The BBC uses several streaming technologies to deliver BBC Sounds. One of these is called Shoutcast which the BBC will stop using by mid-2023.
We recommend that if you hear the message advising of the change, to follow the advice and get in contact with the manufacturer. It might be possible for the device to be updated to use another of stream technologies that we will continue to use (HLS and DASH). However, in your case, I believe the Victor Reader Trek is provided by the RNIB in the UK. So please contact the RNIB instead of the manufacturer.

We did already discuss these changes with the RNIB and I believe they did not think they would be affected by this change. It’s possible the RNIB will raise this with manufacturer Humanware.

I hope you find that helpful.

I will also explain why we are making this change. Shoutcast is an older streaming technology and many connected radio devices in the UK no longer use it. Ending support for Shoutcast will enable us to focus on HLS and DASH - the two most popular technologies currently used. As well as delivering better value, it will allow us to understand more on how our content is consumed. This forms part of our strategy for BBC Sounds and is important to help us improve the services we offer to our listeners. We informed manufacturers and other service providers of this change in May 2022.

Thanks again for getting in touch. I hope this has helped.

Kind regards,
Sarah Smith

BBC iPlayer & BBC Sounds Support Team



(end of BBC Sounds message)


I shall forward this to Humanware and maybe even In Touch but I think we can say BBC streams will be broken for some internet listeners some time next year unless some or all specialist player providers can come up with a solution. This I doubt; not without a substantial software or hardware update.


Ray.



On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele. I might contact you privately as
to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just
before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this
morning. If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear
the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:


n
nouncement_09_58_November4_2022.mp3?dl=1



Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group
it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR
Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen
to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds
on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am
afraid.

Pele

On 04/11/2022 03:41 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Ray,

This gives me a better understanding. If they are only removing Shoutcast, then we have nothing to worry about.

Your Stream doesn't use Shoutcast.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hope those following this conversation will find this reply from BBC Sounds interesting, if not very encouraging for some users of specialist players.(Note RNIB's role as advice provider in all this.)


Forwarded message:


Thank you for contacting BBC Sounds regarding the message you're hearing about your radio streams stopping next year.

The BBC uses several streaming technologies to deliver BBC Sounds. One of these is called Shoutcast which the BBC will stop using by mid-2023.
We recommend that if you hear the message advising of the change, to follow the advice and get in contact with the manufacturer. It might be possible for the device to be updated to use another of stream technologies that we will continue to use (HLS and DASH). However, in your case, I believe the Victor Reader Trek is provided by the RNIB in the UK. So please contact the RNIB instead of the manufacturer.

We did already discuss these changes with the RNIB and I believe they did not think they would be affected by this change. It’s possible the RNIB will raise this with manufacturer Humanware.

I hope you find that helpful.

I will also explain why we are making this change. Shoutcast is an older streaming technology and many connected radio devices in the UK no longer use it. Ending support for Shoutcast will enable us to focus on HLS and DASH - the two most popular technologies currently used. As well as delivering better value, it will allow us to understand more on how our content is consumed. This forms part of our strategy for BBC Sounds and is important to help us improve the services we offer to our listeners. We informed manufacturers and other service providers of this change in May 2022.

Thanks again for getting in touch. I hope this has helped.

Kind regards,
Sarah Smith

BBC iPlayer & BBC Sounds Support Team



(end of BBC Sounds message)


I shall forward this to Humanware and maybe even In Touch but I think we can say BBC streams will be broken for some internet listeners some time next year unless some or all specialist player providers can come up with a solution. This I doubt; not without a substantial software or hardware update.


Ray.



On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele. I might contact you privately as
to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just
before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this
morning. If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear
the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:


nouncement_09_58_November4_2022.mp3?dl=1



Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group
it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR
Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen
to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds
on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am
afraid.

Pele

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 15:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: BBC Sounds reply, Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hope those following this conversation will find this reply from BBC Sounds interesting, if not very encouraging for some users of specialist players.(Note RNIB's role as advice provider in all this.)


Forwarded message:


Thank you for contacting BBC Sounds regarding the message you're hearing about your radio streams stopping next year.

The BBC uses several streaming technologies to deliver BBC Sounds. One of these is called Shoutcast which the BBC will stop using by mid-2023.
We recommend that if you hear the message advising of the change, to follow the advice and get in contact with the manufacturer. It might be possible for the device to be updated to use another of stream technologies that we will continue to use (HLS and DASH). However, in your case, I believe the Victor Reader Trek is provided by the RNIB in the UK. So please contact the RNIB instead of the manufacturer.

We did already discuss these changes with the RNIB and I believe they did not think they would be affected by this change. It’s possible the RNIB will raise this with manufacturer Humanware.

I hope you find that helpful.

I will also explain why we are making this change. Shoutcast is an older streaming technology and many connected radio devices in the UK no longer use it. Ending support for Shoutcast will enable us to focus on HLS and DASH - the two most popular technologies currently used. As well as delivering better value, it will allow us to understand more on how our content is consumed. This forms part of our strategy for BBC Sounds and is important to help us improve the services we offer to our listeners. We informed manufacturers and other service providers of this change in May 2022.

Thanks again for getting in touch. I hope this has helped.

Kind regards,
Sarah Smith

BBC iPlayer & BBC Sounds Support Team



(end of BBC Sounds message)


I shall forward this to Humanware and maybe even In Touch but I think we can say BBC streams will be broken for some internet listeners some time next year unless some or all specialist player providers can come up with a solution. This I doubt; not without a substantial software or hardware update.


Ray.



On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele. I might contact you privately as
to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just
before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this
morning. If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear
the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:


nouncement_09_58_November4_2022.mp3?dl=1



Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group
it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR
Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen
to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds
on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am
afraid.

Pele

On 04/11/2022 11:27 am, Rea Lists via groups.io wrote:

Thanks for the clarification Pele.? I might contact you privately as to exactly how you hear the sports streams.


I have managed to capture the announcement which is going out just before the top of the hour and I caught one just before 10:00 AM this morning.? If you download the link I am pasting below you will hear the announcement rudely plonking itself over the outgoing programme:




Don't know if Adrian were to upload it to the files area of the group it would be any easier to access, but feel free to do this if you like.


Contacting In Touch and Humanware still on my to do list.


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am afraid.

Pele

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 11:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Interesting Steve. What is VTuner?


Ray.


On 04/11/2022 10:05 am, Steve Nutt wrote:

I don't know about the Stream, but the Milestone uses VTuner.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 04 November 2022 08:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not
access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hi Ray

I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them.

Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware.

Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams.

Pele West

On 04/11/2022 10:05 am, Steve Nutt wrote:

I don't know about the Stream, but the Milestone uses VTuner.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 04 November 2022 08:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hi Ray

I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them.

Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware.

Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams.

Pele West

On 04/11/2022 11:01 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I either listen to BBC on DAB or my Alexa or Google Home.

I use my phone or PC to listen to the BBC Sport streams. The VR Stream cannot play these.

But, as I said, I like to have the stations on my Stream and listen to them, particularly the local stations.

By the way, have you tried to link your smart speaker to BBC Sounds on your computer? I don't know much about the Synapptic phone, I am afraid.

Pele

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 04 November 2022 08:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

Hi Ray

I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them.

Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware.

Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams.

Pele West

On 04/11/2022 08:47 am, Pele West wrote:

Hi Ray

I think this is rather sad. I do not often listen to those streams, but am glad to have them.

Have you, or has anyone, contacted Humanware about this. I don't suppose it will make any difference, but at least it will make them aware.

Presumably the Milestone uses the same streams.

Pele West

On 04/11/2022 08:11 am, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Ray,

The way BBC is going at the moment is nothing short of ridiculous. For example, they now put out their Moneybox podcast to regular podcast clients 28 days later than it appears on Sounds, at which point, a lot of it is out of date.

I am going off the BBC at a rate of knots.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 04 November 2022 08:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access BBC streams after mid 2023

I cannot begin to answer the question of whether In Touch will look into this looming ceasing of the lower quality BBC .mp3 streams made available for older internet radio devices and some smart phones and tablets.


I certainly do not want to phase or panic people on this subject, but I will put the question (if I can) to BBC Sounds and drop a line to In Touch as well.


If I am around my VR player I will press record at just before the hour to hear if any more pop-up announcements come through. If I can record one of these then that would be some evidence of what I am going on about.


Ray.


On 03/11/2022 10:23 pm, ltmmcarter@... wrote:

Please answer the question why isn't in touch doing something about this, they are doing stuff on driving tests? It is outrageous that the bbc is ignoring the problems of blind people!s

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 03 November 2022 15:56
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Probability internet players we use will not access
BBC streams after mid 2023

Sorry if necessary for cross-posting - and about the rather long subject, and this might not be exactly the right list to bring it up.


In short, some of us will be crying Help! soon, to do things the BBC
Sounds way.


On my VR Stream just before 2Pm - and cutting into the end credits for
the American local elections series - an announcement came to my VR
Trek that after mid 2023 "the stream you are listening on will no
longer work..." - or words to that effect.From then onwards it would
seem all streaming will have to be via BBC Sounds.


I am guessing most if not all specialist players we use depend on
these lower quality streams at present. So, will there be a way
around this change?


Presently the VR stream and most if not all phone apps that come with
Synapptic the Blind Shell 2 and possibly other smart phones are set up
to use these streams. I am guessing, but don't actually know, that
when BBC Sounds becomes the sole way of accessing live radiothen many
will find some sort of update to radio features on these devices wil
be needed, and worse, a pretty expensive upgrade to new hardware.


Do I hear some screaming, Get an Amazon speaker! I have one, and so
far I have monumentally failed to connect to BBC sounds using my
Synapptic phone with its installed Alexa app - which also has BBC
sounds app on it too. No doubt if I do not solve that problem soon I
shall be calling on someone for Help!


In short, a cumbersome work-around must be in the offing, if not
forking out for another device?


Ray.