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Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

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Nope… you need a local node running the server side of Winlink that hears and responds. – Jack – KD4IZ

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From: d-rats@groups.io <d-rats@groups.io> On Behalf Of NO9X
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 14:10
To: d-rats@groups.io
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

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So if my base is connected to the internet, and base radio, running the repeater software, it won’t pass the message to winlink from my mobile?
disappointing.
Thanks!
73


Re: Drats IC 9700

 

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David,

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T’was I. Thought you needed some affirmation activity. Looks to me like you have the system working! ?

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Jack Spitznagel – KD4IZ

Associate Editor – AMSAT News Service

AMSAT Ambassador

kd4iz@...

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From: d-rats@groups.io <d-rats@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ackrill
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 19:45
To: d-rats@groups.io
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Drats IC 9700

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Someone said hello as well. :-)
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Dave (G0DJA)
Bolsover, UK


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

So if my base is connected to the internet, and base radio, running the repeater software, it won’t pass the message to winlink from my mobile?
disappointing.
Thanks!
73


Re: Drats IC 9700

 

David,

Here is a list of ratflectors as of Oct. 1, 2021. Note that I have VERIFIED that each of these are online. I have provided the name that I use (you can use another name if desired), but the network address must be as noted. I don’t know how many ratflectors D-Rats will allow to be setup.?
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? ? ? ? ? ? ?D-Rats Ratflector Name:? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? D-Rats Ratflector Address:
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AE5HE (El Paso, Texas)? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ae5he.ratflector.com
Alabama? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?alabama.ratflector.com
W5AW (Big Spring, Texas)? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?w5aw.ratflector.com
Tennessee? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? tn.ratflector.com
Georgia ARES? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? gaares.ratflector.com
KB8PMY? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?kb8pmy.net
Paulding County Georgia ARES? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?pldares.ratflector.com
Santa Fe, New Mexico? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?w5sf.ratflector.com
Southeast US Weather? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?sewx.ratflector.com
Saint Tammany, Louisiana? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? sttammany.ratflector.com (this is the one I'm mainly on).
WA7DRE (Spokane, Washington)? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? d-rats.wa7dre.org
Wisconsin? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? kc9sjy.asuscomm.com

? If anyone can provide updates to this list, please let me know...and I'll update the Mode Overview file (includes setting up D-Rats, and getting set up on the QuadNet Array, among other topics) that I have off of the hyperlink off of my QRZ bio. Also there, are Excel Spreadsheets in the 4 main US Time Zones (Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific), of selected D-Star, Echolink, and D-Rats Nets. Plus, there's a file on there listing links for nets for other modes (DMR, CQ100, AllStar, HamSphere, etc.). And lastly, for a bit of levity (too little to laugh at nowadays), a file with ham radio humor.

Daryl, WX4QZ


Re: Drats IC 9700

David Ackrill
 

Someone said hello as well. :-)
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Dave (G0DJA)
Bolsover, UK


Re: Drats IC 9700

David Ackrill
 

I've actually seen a message on one of the ratflectors.? CT1EBQ changed status to 'unatended', so at least I know it's working.
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Dave (G0DJA)
Bolsover, UK


Re: Drats IC 9700

David Ackrill
 

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 04:46 PM, John WB4QDX wrote:
You may be trying to connect to the default ref.d-rats.com rsatflector which is no longer in use

I've managed to connect to a few of the listed ratflectors, including the Alabama and Washington ones. The ones that fail, so far, are Netherlands, Worldwide (which I think was the default), Sweden and VE6DV.

I tried a few chat messages asking if anyone could confirm that I was connected, but no replies so far, but maybe nobody is watching at the moment?


Re: Drats IC 9700

David Ackrill
 

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 04:46 PM, John WB4QDX wrote:
You may be trying to connect to the default ref.d-rats.com rsatflector which is no longer in use.

Hi John, thanks for the reply. I hadn't set up the connection. I was confused by the section "Radio" and I didn't realise it was for connecting to a ratflector as well...

I'll try a couple of the listed ratflectors in 'add a port' and see if I can find one that I can connect to.? Appologies if I barge in on a network, I'll try to only see if I can connect.


Re: Drats IC 9700

 

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You may be trying to connect to the default ref.d-rats.com rsatflector which is no longer in use. Check for a list of working ratflectors at dstarinfo.com.

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If you are running OneDrive, read the instructions on dstarinfo.com for D-RATS. One drive “hijacks” the Desktop folder to a different location under c:\Users.? The instructions will correct the issue with the error during first time setup.

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John WB4QDX

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Re: Drats IC 9700

David Ackrill
 

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 01:13 AM, Marius, YO2LOJ wrote:
Fro the usb cable to work as data input on the IC9700 you need to set it up correctly:

Hi, I'm new to D-Star and D-Rats and not sure if it will be of use to me here in the UK.

I can't get D-Rats to work, I've changed the settings to the ones that Marius suggests to use the USB connector.? I don't have the optional OPC cable for my 9700. When I start the D-Rats program I get an error message "RAT: Unable to connect (Unable to connect ([Errno 10061] No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it)).? The COM: seems to be connecting though, see attached screenshot.

Any advice as to how to cure this error please?

Thanks - Dave (G0DJA)


Re: RS-MS1IA and D-Rats

Marius, YO2LOJ
 

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The RS-MS1 uses an Icom specific protocol for picture exchange and just decodes the DPRS data to put it on a map.
D-Rats uses its own protocol to forward data over plain data links. That means that, even if it works over d-star, it does not need d-star specifically: any transparent data transport actually works if supported by the client (e.g. ax25).
So, for d-rats, you need to set the icom transceiver to support data transfers (both fast and slow data will work) and feed the d-rats data to the trcv itself from a d-rats client software.

The RS-MS1 has nothing to do with it.

Marius, YO2LOJ

August 28, 2022 4:47 AM, "NO9X" <mahly@...> wrote:

Are there any functions in the RS-MS1IA app that work with D-Rats? Text? Picture Sharing? Others?

Thanks!

73
John




Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

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John,

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D-RATS talks “Winlink-ese” directly to either an internet winlink server like server.winlink.org or to an RMS server over the air. To do what you want, you will have to set up an RMS server at your base station. I have never experimented with RMS servers other than connecting to one, so it is out of my knowledge base to give you any more information than that. I am sure that you can use the Winlink site and online groups to get the information you need about setting up an RMS server.

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GL and 73!

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Jack Spitznagel – KD4IZ

Associate Editor – AMSAT News Service

AMSAT Ambassador

kd4iz@...

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From: d-rats@groups.io <d-rats@groups.io> On Behalf Of NO9X
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 21:42
To: d-rats@groups.io
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

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Right. I know there is a setting for using Winlink, I have sent Winlink e-mails, I just want to try to send from my mobile to my base radio, then to Winlink via telnet in DRats.

thanks!


RS-MS1IA and D-Rats

 

Are there any functions in the RS-MS1IA app that work with D-Rats? Text? Picture Sharing? Others?

Thanks!?

73
John


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

Right. I know there is a setting for using Winlink, I have sent Winlink e-mails, I just want to try to send from my mobile to my base radio, then to Winlink via telnet in DRats.

thanks!


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

Sparks KK4IB
 

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Winlink does not have D-RATS in the session dropdown mode selector.

However, the D-RATS application (which is also similar to an email client) has many of the necessary ICS forms and allows similar functionality as Winlink.

You’ll have to experiment with the D-RATS application, we did.

The nice part is the simplicity of connecting the laptop (with D-RATS application) to the DSTAR radio. Your ID-5100 manual explains it. I generally use an IC-91AD for D-RATS.

related comment: when monitoring DSTAR voice while a laptop is connected to that DSTAR radio and running D-RATS application, you will often see D-RATS traffic/text during those voice transmissions. We sometimes coordinate the D-RATS text using voice while sending the text.

sparks


On Aug 26, 2022, at 4:33 PM, NO9X <mahly@...> wrote:

Sparks KK4IB:
It is my understanding (and I could be wrong) that D-Rats does not communicate directly with winlink via RF.?

I don't have a signal link or similar device, so I want to use D-Rats to send winlink e-mails.?



Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

Sparks KK4IB:
It is my understanding (and I could be wrong) that D-Rats does not communicate directly with winlink via RF.?

I don't have a signal link or similar device, so I want to use D-Rats to send winlink e-mails.?


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 
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Yes, The setup is correct. NO radio on location yet, so I will be doing everything from my mobile radio.

While I can conceivably just go into the hospital and use their wi-fi to send a winlink message, for my own purposes, I'd like to use D-Rats. Reason being, I can often hit other states (Michigan and Illinois somewhat reliably) with my Radio at home. If I can use RF to reach my home, and pass messages that way (send via _____? ) and another state has internet communications, I could send e-mails that way. Even if I had a different operator at home that I could send to and they could forward, I could get the message out. Hell, if another part of the state has internet comms and I could reach their station, I could send e-mail that way. If nothing else, maybe I can get them to buy an Icom 5100 and/or 7100 instead of them getting a TYT or something LOL!

I currently don't have a signal link, so sending via HF is not an option.

This isn't a SET or even really a drill. just a capability test. Other tests the state has done recently found equipment in poor repair and radios that haven't been programmed with newer frequencies being used.

I just know my ARES group loves winlink e-mail, and I'd LIKE to be able to send via radio...as a learning experience for me, and eventually be able to link to a ratflector via reflector. If I can figure THAT out, The antenna at the hospital (when they get it up) SHOULD be higher than mine at home, and would be even more capable on it's own.

I plan on testing the station ahead of time so I don't have too many surprises, but I need to figure out how to send an e-mail from my mobile to home first. (small steps LOL!)?

I read the whole D-Rats reflector guide, but it was confusing as it referred to running on "the repeater". If I just run it at home on my wi-fi, connect to my radio, (and know the IP address) is there anything I need to do other than allow contacts from network and serial?


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

Hello, I'm curious as to what the communication situation is? So, coms have been cut off from the hospital and they need to get a winlink email sent. You don't have a radio at the hospital yet, so you are trying send via your car's equipment. Is that correct??
I was wondering if the internet is down via cell phone service? Winlink messages can be sent via a phone app, in the interim until you get the radio setup at the hospital. Or, is goal to establish an RF bridge without internet?

AD2Z, 73's
Dean?

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022, 17:49 NO9X <mahly@...> wrote:

Hi, I am looking at options for using D-RATS to send e-mail for ARES and other functions.

Current set-up:
ID-5100 in the car
IS-5100 at home?
Zumspot duplex at home.

Is there a way I can use my base radio to send winlink e-mail through the Zumspot??

I need to send some Winlink e-mails during a test for the hospital radios in our area, The Hospital I am assigned to does not have a radio YET (New hospital, just opened. They ARE committed to installing a radio), so I will be setting up in the parking lots for the area test.

I currently don't have a signal-link or anything like that to send packet radio.

There are at least 3 D-Star repeaters in the area, 2 are a little more "home grown" the 3rd is a professional quality set-up. All 3 are normally linked to 19b (basically our state wide repeater network).

If I can avoid using those repeaters, I would prefer that option. If not, I'll ask the guy with the home grown repeaters if I can link to a ratflector for 4 hours. Oh yeah, the test is over 4 hours, hence not wanting to tie up a repeater.

So basically, I want to talk from my car, to my home rig, and through the home rig, connect to the internet via the hotspot. I understand (I think) That I would need a computer hooked up to the home computer. but if that is the case, can I just use the wi-fi on the computer hooked up to the base rig?

Put another way, which options are possible and/or preferred to send a winlink e-mail from my car for up to 4 hours.

1) Car to local repeater, connected to a ratflector
2) Car to home radio, then to Zumspot (like a crossband repeater?)
3) Car to home radio, then to internet via LAN/Wi-Fi
4) Suck it up and get another hotspot to take with you in the car!
5) Other

Sorry, VERY new to this and got thrown in the deep end for this ARES test. My ARES group doesn't use D-Star (yet) but is big on Winlink. If I can figure this out, I might be able to push for more D-Star/D-Rats use.

Thanks! 73!
NO9X?
John


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

Sparks KK4IB
 

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Winlink is an email client that does NOT rely on the public internet.?

That is the point.

sparks




On Aug 25, 2022, at 10:04 PM, NO9X <mahly@...> wrote:

Update: If I have D-Rats running on my computer (assuming I have figured out how to make it a ratflector), and I have the base radio also connected, can I send a winlink e-mail from my car at all? I read one file where it said you can't send mail as you aren't connected to the internet.
If not, it doesn't sound like anything would work short of setting up a TNC or something to run winlink from.


Re: Winlink e-mail from my mobile through my base station?

 

Update: If I have D-Rats running on my computer (assuming I have figured out how to make it a ratflector), and I have the base radio also connected, can I send a winlink e-mail from my car at all? I read one file where it said you can't send mail as you aren't connected to the internet.
If not, it doesn't sound like anything would work short of setting up a TNC or something to run winlink from.