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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Ron Wenig
Steve,
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I saw your wait time and I had to test it myself. So I started UiView and mine took close to 3 hours and it finally started. Cortano and all of her secret searches are all turned off also. Ron NY3J On 8/3/2015 12:30 PM, Ron Wenig wrote:
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Try this..
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If you want to disable Cortana completely, just launch the personal assistant, click on the small hamburger button in the top left corner and look for the option that reads Do you want Cortana to work for you? Simply choose Off and you're good to go. It may or may not totally disable it, but it's worth a try. John - K9IJ Ron Wenig rwenig@... [ui-view] wrote: Steve, --
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
There is a way to analyze the wait chain and find what process is causing the wait. In Win7 you get to it through the resource monitor utility. Finding out what's causing the wait, might provide a clue.
I don't see the problem here but on a system with a long delay, using the resource monitor you might be able to figure it out. John - K9IJ steve kf6wax@... [ui-view] wrote: Ron,iv0643979554 #yiv0643979554actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554activity span .yiv0643979554underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554attach label a {text-decoratio n:none;}#yiv0643979554 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 dd.yiv0643979554last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0643979554 dd.yiv0643979554last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0643979554 dd.yiv0643979554last p span.yiv0643979554yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554file-title a, #yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554file-title a:active, #yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554file-title a:hover, #yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554photo-title a, #yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554photo-title a:active, #yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554photo-title a:hover, #yiv0643979554 div.yiv0643979554photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 div#yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0643979554ygrp-msg p a span.yiv0643979554yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv0643979554 o {font-size:0;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554photos div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554photos div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv0643979554 .yiv0643979554replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font -family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv0643979554 input, #yiv0643979554 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv0643979554 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-mlmsg #yiv0643979554logo {padding-bottom:10px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-msg p a {font-family:Verdana;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-msg p#yiv0643979554attach-count span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-reco #yiv0643979554reco-head {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-reco {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-sponsor #yiv0643979554ov li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-sponsor #yiv0643979554ov li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-sponsor #yiv0643979554ov ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-text {font-family:Georgia;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-text p {margin:0 0 1em 0;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-text tt {font-size:120%;}#yiv0643979554 #yiv0643979554ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}#yiv0643979554 -- John Rice K9IJ johnr@... Webmaster, Network Admin, Janitor |
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Ron Wenig
Steve,
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It looks like it's actually waiting for searchui.exe which is part of Cortana. I did some searches and it looks like you can't completely disable Cortana. I don't think Microsoft wants you messing with her. When I killed just the searchui.exe program under the Uiview.exe wait chain Uiview then started. I guess it's the price you have to pay for using UiView with Windows 10. Ron NY3J On 8/3/2015 11:01 AM, steve kf6wax@... [ui-view] wrote:
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Alan Pounder
I've seen reports of programs using DDE having delays on start up under Windows 10. The problem seems to lie in a defect of Cortana. People who have disabled Cortana find the delays go away. I don't know if UI-View uses DDE but you might try disabling Cortana and see if things improve. I don't have anything running Windows 10 to try myself.
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
steve
Ron,
I tried the same thing last night and my wait chain time was 1.5 hours, after that Uiview popped up on the screen and ran as normal. Patently we need to find a way to get around this "Wait Chain" or simply doing what I currently do, Kill Uiview and do another restart, I am sure that there is someone out there with computer skills far above my level of understanding to sort this problem out! 73Steve, kf6wax From: "Ron Wenig rwenig@... [ui-view]" <ui-view@...> To: ui-view@... Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [UI-View] Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10 ? Keith, So I set "com port none", rebooted and started UiView and it didn't come up. I then went into Task Manager and found UiView. This time I right clicked and selected "Analyze wait chain", not sure what that means. Screen shot is included. This time I waited, I think around 10 minutes and "wait chain" went away and UiView came up. So I guess it's going to take a while for UiView to start in Windows 10 the first time it's started after a reboot. Ron NY3J On 8/2/2015 5:30 PM, Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view] wrote:
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
steve
It looks like we are getting closer to the problem with Ron's finding the?Analyze wait chain in Task manager, of course this still does not explain why any future restarts of Uiview start quite normally after the first hung delay,As I said earlier Keith, I only use TCPIP, and no RF so I never have to configure a Port,
Thanks for all the interesting replies, even the one about bottom posting....wasting your breath on me about that subject! 73Steve, KF6WAX From: "Ron Wenig rwenig@... [ui-view]" <ui-view@...> To: ui-view@... Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [UI-View] Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10 ? Keith, So I set "com port none", rebooted and started UiView and it didn't come up. I then went into Task Manager and found UiView. This time I right clicked and selected "Analyze wait chain", not sure what that means. Screen shot is included. This time I waited, I think around 10 minutes and "wait chain" went away and UiView came up. So I guess it's going to take a while for UiView to start in Windows 10 the first time it's started after a reboot. Ron NY3J On 8/2/2015 5:30 PM, Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... 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Re: UI-View32 Start up on Windows 10
Ron NY3J wrote¡
I set "com port none", rebooted and started UI-View and it didn't comeAt least you have proved that the issue isn't related to UI-View having trouble opening a vim port or connecting to a TNC. Unfortunately, attachments aren't allowed. You could post it to the files area. Is there anyone running UI-View on Windows 10 and not having this issue? -- 73 Keith VE7GDH "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!" |
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Ron Wenig
Keith,
So I set "com port none", rebooted and started UiView and it didn't come up. I then went into Task Manager and found UiView. This time I right clicked and selected "Analyze wait chain", not sure what that means. Screen shot is included. This time I waited, I think around 10 minutes and "wait chain" went away and UiView came up. So I guess it's going to take a while for UiView to start in Windows 10 the first time it's started after a reboot. Ron NY3J On 8/2/2015 5:30 PM, Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view] wrote:
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
steve
It is nice to know that I am not alone in this problem, I have now also found that My WX station stopped showing weather data, it ran briefly as kf6wax-3 then simply stopped and nothing I do can get it to start again.
I am using the latest version of Weather Display (registered) and have the WXNOW.TXT set up!! 73Steve, kf6wax From: "Ron Wenig rwenig@... [ui-view]" <ui-view@...> To: ui-view@... Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [UI-View] Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10 ? Same thing here Steve. I always forget where it is in Task manager and have to hunt for it to shut it down. When you try to run it again it says UiView is already running. Also, Win 10 64 bit. Ron NY3J On 8/2/2015 4:31 PM, kf6wax@... 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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
steve
I am running all 3 on TCPIP only
Steve From: "Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view]" <ui-view@...> To: "ui-view@..." <ui-view@...> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [UI-View] Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10 ? Steve K6WAX wrote¡ My problem is that after the PC has been rebooted (Both a cold start and a simple power cycle restart) My first attempt to start Uiview32, it remains hidden. It is not running in the hidden Icons folder in the task bar either!Is UI-View sending any commands to the TNC when it starts or stops? Try setting it to "com port none" and saving the changes and exiting the program and see if it starts normally then. 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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Steve K6WAX wrote¡
My problem is that after the PC has been rebooted (Both a cold start and a simple power cycle restart) My first attempt to start Uiview32, it remains hidden. It is not running in the hidden Icons folder in the task bar either!Is UI-View sending any commands to the TNC when it starts or stops? Try setting it to "com port none" and saving the changes and exiting the program and see if it starts normally then. Next open the terminal window and watch what happens when you enable and disable the TNC. -- 73 Keith VE7GDH "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!" |
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
Ron Wenig
Same thing here Steve. I always forget where it is in Task manager and
have to hunt for it to shut it down. When you try to run it again it says UiView is already running. Also, Win 10 64 bit. Ron NY3J On 8/2/2015 4:31 PM, kf6wax@... [ui-view] wrote:
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Re: Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
I've had that issue with a netbook running Win 7 starter. I just restart the program each time I want to use it on a cold boot. It would be nice to know the why? But it does run correctly if you kill it and then restart.
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Resolved - Kantronics TNC delayed packets issue ! ?
Chuck Kimball
By chance I was communicating with a new Igate operator in the state a
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couple of weeks ago as his station was suffering from delayed packets. He had already done some research and found some items I wasn't aware of from an aprs.fi blog post a couple years back. Jist of it is to short the RTS & CTS pins within the serial cable, and/or disable all flow control settings. Also for those not in KISS, software commands also appear to solve the issue. - XFLOW OFF - START $00 - STOP $00 - TRF OFF - TXF OFF - CONO OFF - FLOW OFF - XON $00 - XOFF $00 He tried the software changes, and that seemed to resolve his issues. I just checked and for the past 3 weeks there have been no delayed packets. Not sure if using the software commands prior to going into kiss mode would help but might be worth some testing. I've always used the nightly restart (with TNC reset) previously, but am doing some testing on my home station to see if this may be a better solution. The restart occasionally causes a hang if the TNC is receiving packets when it's being reset, and UI-View ends up wanting a button pushed. Wanted to pass this along since a lot of us that have been doing APRS for a while were of the impression there was no fix to the Kantronics issue. Chuck Kimball n0nhj Glenwood Springs, CO On 7/29/2015 23:12, Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view] wrote:
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Uiview32 Start up on Windows 10
I had a quick scan of previous posts and did not see any relevant thread to my question, so here goes...
I now have Uiview32 installed on 3 PCs all running Windows10 Professional. 64BIT Uiview32 is mounted OUTSIDE of the programs folder directly on the C: Hardrive My problem is that after the PC has been rebooted (Both a cold start and a simple power cycle restart) My first attempt to start Uiview32, it remains hidden. It is not running in the hidden Icons folder in the task bar either! I open up Task Manager and it shows Uiview32 in the list of programs that are running so I kill it and then start Uiview32 again and this time it shows up on the desktop and everything works just fine. Every successive start of Uiview32 after that is just fine until I have to reboot the PC and then I see the same problem again. It makes no difference if you start Uiview32 by right clicking and starting in Administrator mode I am curious if anyone else has seen this and if so is there a "fix" I can apply to cure this problem! 73 Steve, kf6wax |
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Re: Google Maps KML to UI View Overlay?
On 7/31/2015 5:02 AM, k1jsh@... [ui-view] wrote:
The freeware open-source utility "GPSbabel" available at . <> can read and write and write a huge number of GPS data and map data file formats and convert from one to another. Specifically it can read/write KML format files, and write them out as either CSV text files or dBase files. In turn Precision Mapping by itself, or the PMap Server for UIview can import either of these two formats. The result will be a bunch of point objects, not a route of line segments. Note that Precision Mapping 9/PMap Server 9 can import the ESRI ARCview .SHP or MapInfo .MIF vector file formats. This utility . <> purports to convert .KML to .SHP format which can then be imported into PMap Server. Since the .SHP format can handle multiple line-segment objects (i.e. "Polylines") it should be able to preserve the route as a route rather than as a bunch of point objects. I've never tried it so I don't know how well it works. (I use the MapInfo program to import stuff into .MIF format, then import that into PMap Server.) It's very frustrating that I was in conversation with Undertow Software (PMap publisher) about 6 months before they killed Precision Mapping to add the .GPX (GPs eXchange) format to Precision Mapping. GPX is now the most widely used format to exchange all kinds of mapping data (point objects, routes & track lines, & area objects) between GPS devices and various mapping programs. For example, the more recent versions of Delorme Topo, Delorme Street Atlas, MS MapPoint and Garmin BaseCamp all support GPX imports. Further, GPSbabel can convert practically anything (including .KML) to GPX format. I have imported GPX tracks from my Garmin nuvi into MapPoint and Topo many times, and they show as routes (not points). Your task would have been quite trivial if GPS had made it into Precision Mapping (and by extension the UIview PMap Server 9) before it "died". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype: WA8LMF EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page: Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF High Performance Sound Systems for Soundcard Apps "APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating |
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