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Someone recently asked me for help designing an interesting and fun layout for him. He said he had 7' x 12' to work with. I started the conversation by sending him a copy of the pages from Gilbert's instruction manual, pointing him to layout number 10 which has three loops, a crossover, and four sidings, and measures 6' x 11'. It's really cool. Looking at it critically, however, I realized that Gilbert had never built that layout. It has several glaring errors; for example there are four straight tracks on one end but only three on the other end! To fit together properly, it requires four pieces of straight track cut to custom lengths. I drew it out to scale and then confirmed it by laying out actual pieces of track on the floor. If anybody is interested, I can send you a picture of the drawing. And if you need track to build it, I can sell you that. Bob Graves
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Is it possible that we're mistaking the layout as being all on the same level whereas the original intent was to separate the two loops at the left side of the layout so that one is above or below the other? This would explain the apparent "curved" switches whereby one loop "connects" with the other; AF never made these switches with what appears to be a full curve on one side and a half-straight and a half-curve on the other. Is it possible that someone at ACG created the original design centerline to be on two levels and then left it to someone else to show the ends of each track section and to come up with the quantities of items needed? The second person would then have assumed that the track was all on the same level and "fudged" the switches to make them work. Separating the levels of the two loops at the left end solves most of the problems with this layout; the other problem is the switch on the bottom that leads to the crossing diamond. This route has the equivalent of two straight track sections (one is the switch and the other is the crossing diamond) but the curve at the left end of the layout also only has two straights so this doesn't include the perpendicular distance needed for the switch at the bottom of the layout and the reverse curve that eventually leads to the crossing diamond. OOPS? If they'd made the switch lead directly into the curve leading to the the crossing diamond then this problem would also be resolved. Thoughts? Chris Harding
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A.C. Gilbert?�?s Keystone PRR logo was better looking
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This is the real PRR Keystone numberplate drawing. That wins over everything. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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A.C. Gilbert’s Keystone PRR logo was better looking and more readable. The tender for a steam outline engine built in 1948 is being refurbished to its American Flyer Lines paint scheme. Researching the Pennsylvania Railroad keystone logo it was discovered the logo Gilbert put on his product is more distinguishable. A PRR logo from an old engineering document is compared side by side with the logo on a AF tender. This is an interesting “point” for me, because it’s an example of where a toy logo seems to look better than the prototype rendering. The decision is made. We’ll be using Gilbert’s PRR keystone rendition. It just looks better.
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Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels
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Hello Group Members, I am restoring several AF All Aboard panels and to complete the repair I am in need of 3 10 1/2 “ straight track with the All Aboard tie design. Please contact me off-list. Thank You for your help. John Keating
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When I saw the previous postings about switching layouts it occurred to me to suggest the Timesaver Layout as originated with John Allen of Gorre & Daphetid fame. There have been other variations over the years but I think that this track plan would satisfy an operator in a small space. I have modeled the Timesaver as a part of an HO scale layout. John Keating
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Gilbert 955 Tuscan coaches with silhouettes
To all, I am looking for a pair of Tuscan/Maroon painted Gilbert 955 coaches (sintered iron trucks with KC) with the silhouettes in the windows to go with my Tuscan 918 Operating Mail Car and 951 Baggage Car. I have seen one on eBay up for bid (I don't usually go after any bid items) and another one on eBay with a listing of 955, but the photo shows it clearly numbered 655. I have a pair of 655 Tuscan/Maroon painted coaches to go with my Tuscan 718 & 651. Previous owner installed Sintered Iron KC trucks on a diecast frame and it is just a spark show when the truck hits the steps. They will be replaced by sheet metal LC trucks. Mike Cronin
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Got a Challenger locomotive?
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To complete my website page, I need pictures of the 48090 Northern Pacific, the 48091 Western Pacific, and the 48092 Great Northern Challenger locomotives. If you've got one, I'd really appreciate your sending me a picture! Bob Graves TheGilbertGallery.org
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File /Archived version of former "AF Trainmaster" website uploaded
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The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /Archived version of former "AF Trainmaster" website By: Dale Smith <dfsmith26@...> Description: This website has disappeared but has been archived at the above link.
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AF Train Master
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Group, I had a lot of links from the NASG web site to the "aftrainmaster" dot com web site. My notes indicated that it was owned/run by a "Jim Hammond". The web site became inactive a month or two ago and it now appears to have been completely taken over by a Chinese (?) company. So, apparently whomever owned the site, legitimately, has somehow let it lapse. Unfortunately, as these things happen, I am left with no choice but to look for obituaries. So, my question is, was the aftrainmaster web site run by this gentleman: https://www.riczofuneral.com/obituary/James-Hammond It mentions that his favorite hobby was trains. Any leads would be helpful, - Peter (NASG webmaster) -- Peter Vanvliet (info@...) owner, Fourth Ray Software Houston, Texas https://fourthray.com/ https://pmrr.org/ (personal web site)
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For those in the Midlantic area I am sad to report that Robert "Frankie" Merson has passed. Frankie was a staple and friendly vendor at numerous shows in the area with a VERY extensive spread of American Flyer along with S-Helper, etc. rolling stock and accessories. He will be sorely missed. More information is on the Funeral Home web site, https://www.brinsfieldfuneral.com/obituary/robert-merson Kyle
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American Models switches for sale both Left & Right, sold individually $35.00 each plus shipping and handling . if interested email me at John@... and than I will send you an Invoice, upon payment the item(s) will be shipped.
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Switches for Sale
American models Hi-Rail switches (used) for sale Bothe left and right. $35.00 each plus shipping and handling. If interested email John@... or call 614-296-8691 and leave a message. I will than send you an invoice and upon payment the item will be shipped.
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Video: AF SD70, ES44, & U33C Diesel Runbys, Huge 40' Lg S Ga. Layout, N. Cen PA, Winter 2024
Youtube: https://youtu.be/dA75XDGuIxY * This short 4-minute video recorded in Nov. 2024, briefly shows a huge 40' long American Flyer S-Gauge layout in operation. * The last 2 minutes show "night time" operation. * This is Steve R's "Loyalsock Subdivision", located in Williamsport PA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A. ABOUT THE LAYOUT: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * The layout is about 40' long, about 28' wide at the wider end, and about 16' wide at the narrow end. * The track is S-Helper Service flexible track, with Tom's Turnouts. * The layout contains approximately 3800 feet of track and 60 turnouts. * It includes two power-operated elevating lift bridges -- to allow access to the inside of the layout, without having to duck underneath the track. * There are approximately 68 lighted buildings, and 15 lighted billboards on the layout. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ B. VIDEO LINKS: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. (This video) The 2024 VIDEO (4 min.): * Youtube: https://youtu.be/dA75XDGuIxY (ads) * DailyMotion: https://dai.ly/x9fffki (probably ads) * Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/1062237306 (no ads, but links appear as plain text) 2. The longer 6-minute 2018 Youtube video is here: https://youtu.be/Gcwzt9PgtY0 . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ C. PHOTO LINKS: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 3. The two Google Drive Photo Albums (2024 & 2018 photos) are in this Google Drive folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12oeQHTziTRPmVAApAWZEKw6m5rl5bRgu?usp=sharing 4. There's also a copy of the Year 2024 photos in the Groups .io Message Archives at /g/track2/message/76 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Video uploaded for http://SusquehannaSgaugers.com by http://JamesIngram.net . |-------------------------------------------------- | Thanks. - James Ingram, , http://JamesIngram.net | http://facebook.com/james.robert.ingram | Williamsport PA, Denver CO |--------------------------------------------------
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Looking for AF HO 060
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Group, I am looking to purchase a nice AF HO 060 Locomotive. Please contact me off list at edsauers@... if you have one for sale. Thanks Ed Sauers
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Micro Engineering code 83 flex
I did our ZOOM with Micro Engineering this morning. There is not going to be a firm "available date" for the initial run of code 83 flex track. They only need a small amount of first orders to justify a mold switch on one of their molding machines. They have had their best sales months ever this year and are shipping what they can make right out the door. So get your orders in and get the process started. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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Switches for sale
American Models used, S Gauge high rail, non powered switches $50.00 each plus S&H. I will send you a PayPal invoice to pay. You don't need to be a user to use PayPal. f interested I will send you the invoice, John@...
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Tomalco - It is offical
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It is official. Tomalco Track is now owned by Micro Engineering. See attached. Thank You, Bill Lane Modeling the Mighty Pennsy, PRSL & Reading in 1957 in S Scale since 1987 See my finished models at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm Look at what has been made in PRR in S Scale! See my layout progress at: http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Layout.htm Join the Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines Historical Society It's FREE to join! http://www.prslhs.com Preserving The Memory Of The PRSL
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American Models Switches for sale
American Models Left and Right switches for sale, High Rail, used, good condition 6 right and 8 left $60.00 each plus shipping and handling. Email John@... with how many you are interested in, than I will send you and PayPal invoice ( you don't have to be a member of PayPal) Upon payment your item will be shipped and you will receive a tracing number. John@...
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For sale: Lionel Flyer Northern Pacific streamliner set
Complete Lionel Flyer 49602 Northern Pacific streamliner set, plus the add-on 48117 PB Unit, 48924 Vista Dome, and 48925 Coach cars as shown on my website: thegilbertgallery.org/Passenger%20Gallery/Northern_Pacific_train.html Everything is in C-8 like new condition; the wheels indicate it has been run but very little. The engine runs great and all the lights work. Instructions are included. All the knuckle couplers work great except the one on the front of the powered PA unit and one on the 48924 Vista Dome; those two work but don't pop open. The horn and rail sounds on the 48117 PB Unit don't work; probably just a broken wire but I haven't had time to open it up and check. The boxes are in P-9 condition except for the PA set box which is P-7. Greenberg book value is $805, allowing 10% off for Like New condition as recommended in the TM Guide. Make offer. Also, the American Models Southern Crescent set has not yet sold. Make offer. And I still have a lot of engines listed on my website: thegilbertgallery.org/For%20Sale%20Pages/for_sale_S_Scale_engines.html Bob Graves
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