开云体育

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 开云体育

Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels


 

Hello Group Members,
I am restoring several AF All Aboard panels and to complete the repair I am in need of 3 10 1/2 “ straight track with the All Aboard tie design. Please contact me off-list. Thank You for your help.
John Keating


 

Wouldn't that be standard Pikemaster straight track?

I'm asking for my info as well as the rest of the members.

Fred


 

开云体育

FYI, the PikeMaster track made for the All Aboard panels have special ties designed to accept the eyelets that mount the track to the panel. The "normal" Pikemaster track does not have those special ties.

Daryl


On 3/21/2025 9:19 AM, frubes via groups.io wrote:

Wouldn't that be standard Pikemaster straight track?

I'm asking for my info as well as the rest of the members.

Fred


 

开云体育

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.
? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.
John Keating

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:
No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.
? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

开云体育

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

开云体育

The rub here is that he needs straight pieces and the straight panels are in greater demand than the curves.? I think I would probably be satisfied with using regular PM track, perhaps carefully enlarging the holes on the second tie in and suing a machine screw and washer on the bottom side to attach.

Dale Smith

On 3/21/2025 3:52 PM, Doug Peck via groups.io wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


Virus-free.


 

Hello Doug,?
I am in ?need of the straight track sections. In restoring other panels that had broken eyelet ties I have straightened out the rail tabs and inserted a donor tie section that once the tabs are bent to hold the donor section in place once the track section is fastened in place without moving.

John Keating

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:52?PM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

开云体育

Ahhh…Just saw this.

Can’t help you with straights, unfortunately.

Just saw Dale’s reply too…………his idea may be your only solution, at least temporarily.

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Hello Doug,?

I am in ?need of the straight track sections. In restoring other panels that had broken eyelet ties I have straightened out the rail tabs and inserted a donor tie section that once the tabs are bent to hold the donor section in place once the track section is fastened in place without moving.

?

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:52?PM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

开云体育

The only problem with my solution is the 15 v buss and the track clips.?? That could be a problem, especially with a switch panel.? It would require an under panel jumper (maybe just an extension of the existing wire with an alligator clip to connect to the buss on the next section)or a modified track clip that would fit under the screw but connect normally on the other panel.? This would be a fix, not a restoration.


On March 22, 2025 3:37:44 AM PDT, "Doug Peck via groups.io" <doug@...> wrote:

Ahhh…Just saw this.

Can’t help you with straights, unfortunately.

Just saw Dale’s reply too…………his idea may be your only solution, at least temporarily.

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Hello Doug,?

I am in ?need of the straight track sections. In restoring other panels that had broken eyelet ties I have straightened out the rail tabs and inserted a donor tie section that once the tabs are bent to hold the donor section in place once the track section is fastened in place without moving.

?

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:52?PM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

Dale,
?
My ?apologies for misspelling your name. Please resend contact info for Don Mathies
?
John
?


 

Who is Don Mathies?



On Sunday, March 23, 2025 at 04:10:16 PM CDT, John Keating via groups.io <keating.j.t.43@...> wrote:


Dale,
?
My ?apologies for misspelling your name. Please resend contact info for Don Mathies
?
John
?


 

开云体育

He is a west coast Flyer Seller who I found out at a recent show may have some panels for John.? It was really an answer to a private message to John that accidentally went to the whole group.

Dale

On 3/23/2025 3:32 PM, Edward Goldin via groups.io wrote:

Who is Don Mathies?



On Sunday, March 23, 2025 at 04:10:16 PM CDT, John Keating via groups.io <keating.j.t.43@...> wrote:


Dale,
?
My ?apologies for misspelling your name. Please resend contact info for Don Mathies
?
John
?

Virus-free.


 

开云体育

I may be able to help.? I have tons of panels and maybe even some eyelets to fit.? Have you thought about using regular PM straights and drilling the ties for smaller eyelets or are you looking to accurately restore?? My issue right now is I’m in Florida for a bit and the panels are in VA.

?

Bill Clark

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

The only problem with my solution is the 15 v buss and the track clips.?? That could be a problem, especially with a switch panel.? It would require an under panel jumper (maybe just an extension of the existing wire with an alligator clip to connect to the buss on the next section)or a modified track clip that would fit under the screw but connect normally on the other panel.? This would be a fix, not a restoration.

?

On March 22, 2025 3:37:44 AM PDT, "Doug Peck via groups.io" <doug@...> wrote:

Ahhh…Just saw this.

Can’t help you with straights, unfortunately.

Just saw Dale’s reply too…………his idea may be your only solution, at least temporarily.

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Hello Doug,?

I am in ?need of the straight track sections. In restoring other panels that had broken eyelet ties I have straightened out the rail tabs and inserted a donor tie section that once the tabs are bent to hold the donor section in place once the track section is fastened in place without moving.

?

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:52?PM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

开云体育

Not sure how many, but I have some of those PM track pins that have the extension underneath for wire connections.

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of race944t via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 6:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

I may be able to help.? I have tons of panels and maybe even some eyelets to fit.? Have you thought about using regular PM straights and drilling the ties for smaller eyelets or are you looking to accurately restore?? My issue right now is I’m in Florida for a bit and the panels are in VA.

?

Bill Clark

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Smith via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

The only problem with my solution is the 15 v buss and the track clips.?? That could be a problem, especially with a switch panel.? It would require an under panel jumper (maybe just an extension of the existing wire with an alligator clip to connect to the buss on the next section)or a modified track clip that would fit under the screw but connect normally on the other panel.? This would be a fix, not a restoration.

?

On March 22, 2025 3:37:44 AM PDT, "Doug Peck via groups.io" <doug@...> wrote:

Ahhh…Just saw this.

Can’t help you with straights, unfortunately.

Just saw Dale’s reply too…………his idea may be your only solution, at least temporarily.

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Hello Doug,?

I am in ?need of the straight track sections. In restoring other panels that had broken eyelet ties I have straightened out the rail tabs and inserted a donor tie section that once the tabs are bent to hold the donor section in place once the track section is fastened in place without moving.

?

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:52?PM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

6 Storeybrooke Drive

Newburyport, MA 01950

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

Good Evening Bill,

I have (currently)? A stash of All Aboard straights and curves that I haven’t found after moving from CT to GA. I have checked with Steve Amato of Hobby Surplus in Middletown, CT; he has only the short eyelets for reattaching the tracks to the panels. I have located a supplier in the MidWest that has eyelets that are 1/8” longer than original eyelets. This allows several ways to reattach the panels and the longer length allows for a custom fit. If you may have several straight and or curved All Aboard pieces of track please let me know. Doug Peck has been helpful in my quest for All Aboard track.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2025, race944t via <race944t=[email protected]> wrote:

I may be able to help.? I have tons of panels and maybe even some eyelets to fit.? Have you thought about using regular PM straights and drilling the ties for smaller eyelets or are you looking to accurately restore?? My issue right now is I’m in Florida for a bit and the panels are in VA.

?

Bill Clark

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dale Smith via
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

The only problem with my solution is the 15 v buss and the track clips.?? That could be a problem, especially with a switch panel.? It would require an under panel jumper (maybe just an extension of the existing wire with an alligator clip to connect to the buss on the next section)or a modified track clip that would fit under the screw but connect normally on the other panel.? This would be a fix, not a restoration.

?

On March 22, 2025 3:37:44 AM PDT, "Doug Peck via " <doug@...> wrote:

Ahhh…Just saw this.

Can’t help you with straights, unfortunately.

Just saw Dale’s reply too…………his idea may be your only solution, at least temporarily.

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2025 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Hello Doug,?

I am in ?need of the straight track sections. In restoring other panels that had broken eyelet ties I have straightened out the rail tabs and inserted a donor tie section that once the tabs are bent to hold the donor section in place once the track section is fastened in place without moving.

?

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:52?PM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi John.

That track is not easy to find.

However, I have a LOT of regular curve panels………..would be too expensive to ship due to weight and size. , but nobody buys them so I have no issue with carefully removing the curve track from them, and tossing the panels !

What do you need?

?

Doug Peck

Port Line Hobbies

888-708-0782 (within US only)

978-465-8798

doug@...

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Keating via
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Restoring Gilbert AF All Aboard Panels

?

Doug, I thank you for your reply. Yes I am looking for the PM track as used on the All Aboard panels. I recently came across the 8 panel winter set, the previous owner had rounded the curve panels for reasons unknown to me. One straight panel originally had the whistle but the only thing left was the whistle button.

John Keating

?

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 9:49?AM Doug Peck via <doug=[email protected]> wrote:

No.? The PM? track for the panels had have widened ties at the spots where eyelets have to be inserted in order to attach the track sections to the panels.

? The panel track is unique to the panels.


 

John what size hollow rivets will you use for your restoration..? I also have 4 panels along with regular pickmaster rail to replace the original?rail? I need?to know what size rivet to use.? Someone suggested?a more narrow rivit?for the regular Pickmaster tie.

Leonidas Lavdas

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 12:19?AM John Keating via <Keating.j.t.43=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Group Members,
I am restoring several AF All Aboard panels and to complete the repair I am in need of 3 10 1/2 “ straight track with the All Aboard tie design. Please contact me off-list. Thank You for your help.
John Keating