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Re: SCU-17 Behind The Raspberry Pi?

Austin M0MNE
 

I am running on a Pi4.?? People are saying it should just magically "work" on a pi4? but I am having no such luck.? I just cannot get the pi 4 to talk to the SCU 17 no matter what settings I use.? I need to see what settings people have for this


Re: SCU-17 Behind The Raspberry Pi?

 

Which Pi are you using?? If it's the Pi5 the software may not be compiled for it. Pi5 changed the address of the GPIO due to using a separate chip. The GPIO libraries that run on the older Pi's won't work on the 5. Until the developers update the SW to work with the 5, they need to be run on a Pi4 or earlier

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On Oct 12, 2024, at 12:14, "Austin M0MNE via " <gmail.com@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

Anyone??? It looks like there are plenty people are saying that they can successfully make the SCU-17 with Raspberry Pi, but I'm really struggling to make it work.? I am having no such luck.? Could anyone please show what settings they are using to get CAT control to actually work??? The sound isn't an issue, it's the CAT control I cannot get to work.


Re: SCU-17 Behind The Raspberry Pi?

Austin M0MNE
 

Anyone??? It looks like there are plenty people are saying that they can successfully make the SCU-17 with Raspberry Pi, but I'm really struggling to make it work.? I am having no such luck.? Could anyone please show what settings they are using to get CAT control to actually work??? The sound isn't an issue, it's the CAT control I cannot get to work.


Re: Seqence of Events on RPI with Pi-Star

 

Awesome reply! ?Tnx to all who commented..
I think I have enough to carry on BUT know where to come for help!
73. Norm VE3CZI


Re: Seqence of Events on RPI with Pi-Star

 

Hi Norm,
?
To answer your curiosity about how the system works, both the operating system and the Pi-Star software are on the card; the image that you download as a special copy of the operating system that's been set up with the software installed and ready to start up automatically.
?
Like most computers, a Raspberry Pi has just enough system installed in its firmware to find and load the main operating system from storage - in our case the SD card. This bit in the firmware is called a boot loader, from the nonsensical? idea in an old story of a mountaineer getting up a cliff by grabbing hold of their bootstraps and pulling themselves up into the air.
?
73
Phil
2E0HGU


Re: Seqence of Events on RPI with Pi-Star

 

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Sorry….. ?no you don’t need to change data on the Nextion screen! All the images are pre-loaded and will automatically change on the detected transmission or mode or modes you have selected. It’s a one shot deal really and once programmed you never need to touch the Nextion screen again……





The link to Nextion editor and background HMI files. IMPORTANT….. HMI files require compiling first. Duplex or simplex frequencies also need inputting too before you compile (they don’t actually do anything other than tell you the frequency for reference).?

?This is the screen I’m using?

image0.jpeg

See the duplex frequencies are pre-set!

?You will also need to decide if your MMDVM is private or public but private requires you to setup the DMR ID’s for example for access. Public is a security risk and wide open but it’s up to you and if you are portable or remote location then you may wish to use public.

? ?So just to recap. Radio modem type mine is MMDVM_HS_Dual_Hat Pi GPIO

Modem baud rate : 115200

MMDVM display type : Nextion (enhanced w/driver, attached to modem)?
Port: Modem

Layout type: G4KLX?


Host name, callsign, DMR/CS7 ID, NXDN ID, radio frequency Tx, radio frequency RX, system time zone, dashboard language ….. are all personal to you and only you will have that information.

Same with longitude and latitude, town etc.

If you want to use with DMR then just flick the DMR switch and leave everything else unticked.

?All other settings like BrandmeisterMaster and Brandmeister security can be touched upon later.

as with DMR+ etc.


?De Spence G5STO

PA: battery was going flat so had to send the email in two parts….?

Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 7 Oct 2024, at 23:34, Spencer Tomlinson <unavailable.equal@...> wrote:

?
There are pre-compiled images for the raspberry Pi here.

??

Read the comprehensive instructions and use Etcher to burn the downloaded image file. Insert into Pi, use web URL to login to Pi via browser. Pi-Star only has a web interface and Pi does not have a normal GUI or desktop and only CLI so typically you will never need a monitor or keyboard attached to the Pi as everything is done via a webpage.

? When setting up for the first time you will need the Nextion screen attached and depending on the screen size and what driver to use.

? The Nextion screen will only show blank images (or demo reels) until you upload a screen image via a FTDI USB to serial converter or if you Nextion screen has a MicroSD slot then onto a card and then load the HMI (pre compiled with Nextion software). You have to download the Nextion HMI for the right screen and then compile it before loading to the screen.

? Configure the MMDVM to your type (mine is dual channel), input your details, callsign, DMR ID etc.

? Everything is then just selecting the right configuration. Eg: DMR mode, Fusion Mode or of you really get fancy YSF to DMR etc.

? Also depending on your server you may need to register with. Brandmeister, D-Star (with your local D-Star repeater keeper or direct with Icom (but don’t start two registrations if one doesn’t reply) they get upset with multiple applications and won’t start fresh if one is underway.

? ?Test the BER and tune the frequency offset of your TXCO is off by a little bit. This will ensure 0.0% BER. Observe a lot of MMDVM on RPi’s also over load if you're ?keying the radio right next to it so make sure you reduce your power (this is certainly true on the dual band version I have found so worth noting).

? Register with the Pi-Star Telegram group for nearly 24/7 support. Do the same with Brandmeister, however, don’t discuss Pi-Star on Brandmeister or visa versa as they get the hump if you do.

? ?Andy Taylor is great for support but also a busy guy so please ask here first and in the forum before you reach out to him. He is amazingly helpful but busy, I am always around for help. Had a hotspot for …… not sure but around 6 or 7 years I think. V1

? ?If you need links to the HMI files I shall send you some here. Download from GitHub.

? ?Hopefully that’s a crash course from A - Z and more than enough I think to at least get you up and running.

Good luck de Spence G5STO

Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 7 Oct 2024, at 23:01, Norm Freidin VE3CZI via groups.io <ve3czica@...> wrote:

?
Am curious as to HOW does RPI work?
Do you have to load the RPI operating system onto RPI first
Then Program the SD Card with Pi-Star ?
?
I would "think" that the RPi has it's software on board.? When you power it up, it boots up, then somehow gets a command to go to the SD Card to run the Pi-Star Program?
OR...Is the RPi and Pi-Star programs BOTH loaded on the SD Card?
?
Have been using MMDVM with Pi-Zero Cards....No problem.
?
Acquired some Raspberry Pi unit, with Nextion Screens....whole NEW adventure.
If I get the RPi units running on DMR,? ?I suppose have to load different software on Nextion Screen to display the information???
?
Lots of questions from a newbie Raspberry Pi user!
Thoughts? ? Comments? ?Assistance? ?
73...Norm
?


Re: Seqence of Events on RPI with Pi-Star

 

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There are pre-compiled images for the raspberry Pi here.

??

Read the comprehensive instructions and use Etcher to burn the downloaded image file. Insert into Pi, use web URL to login to Pi via browser. Pi-Star only has a web interface and Pi does not have a normal GUI or desktop and only CLI so typically you will never need a monitor or keyboard attached to the Pi as everything is done via a webpage.

? When setting up for the first time you will need the Nextion screen attached and depending on the screen size and what driver to use.

? The Nextion screen will only show blank images (or demo reels) until you upload a screen image via a FTDI USB to serial converter or if you Nextion screen has a MicroSD slot then onto a card and then load the HMI (pre compiled with Nextion software). You have to download the Nextion HMI for the right screen and then compile it before loading to the screen.

? Configure the MMDVM to your type (mine is dual channel), input your details, callsign, DMR ID etc.

? Everything is then just selecting the right configuration. Eg: DMR mode, Fusion Mode or of you really get fancy YSF to DMR etc.

? Also depending on your server you may need to register with. Brandmeister, D-Star (with your local D-Star repeater keeper or direct with Icom (but don’t start two registrations if one doesn’t reply) they get upset with multiple applications and won’t start fresh if one is underway.

? ?Test the BER and tune the frequency offset of your TXCO is off by a little bit. This will ensure 0.0% BER. Observe a lot of MMDVM on RPi’s also over load if you're ?keying the radio right next to it so make sure you reduce your power (this is certainly true on the dual band version I have found so worth noting).

? Register with the Pi-Star Telegram group for nearly 24/7 support. Do the same with Brandmeister, however, don’t discuss Pi-Star on Brandmeister or visa versa as they get the hump if you do.

? ?Andy Taylor is great for support but also a busy guy so please ask here first and in the forum before you reach out to him. He is amazingly helpful but busy, I am always around for help. Had a hotspot for …… not sure but around 6 or 7 years I think. V1

? ?If you need links to the HMI files I shall send you some here. Download from GitHub.

? ?Hopefully that’s a crash course from A - Z and more than enough I think to at least get you up and running.

Good luck de Spence G5STO

Sent while portable! please excuse typos.

On 7 Oct 2024, at 23:01, Norm Freidin VE3CZI via groups.io <ve3czica@...> wrote:

?
Am curious as to HOW does RPI work?
Do you have to load the RPI operating system onto RPI first
Then Program the SD Card with Pi-Star ?
?
I would "think" that the RPi has it's software on board.? When you power it up, it boots up, then somehow gets a command to go to the SD Card to run the Pi-Star Program?
OR...Is the RPi and Pi-Star programs BOTH loaded on the SD Card?
?
Have been using MMDVM with Pi-Zero Cards....No problem.
?
Acquired some Raspberry Pi unit, with Nextion Screens....whole NEW adventure.
If I get the RPi units running on DMR,? ?I suppose have to load different software on Nextion Screen to display the information???
?
Lots of questions from a newbie Raspberry Pi user!
Thoughts? ? Comments? ?Assistance? ?
73...Norm
?


Seqence of Events on RPI with Pi-Star

 

Am curious as to HOW does RPI work?
Do you have to load the RPI operating system onto RPI first
Then Program the SD Card with Pi-Star ?
?
I would "think" that the RPi has it's software on board.? When you power it up, it boots up, then somehow gets a command to go to the SD Card to run the Pi-Star Program?
OR...Is the RPi and Pi-Star programs BOTH loaded on the SD Card?
?
Have been using MMDVM with Pi-Zero Cards....No problem.
?
Acquired some Raspberry Pi unit, with Nextion Screens....whole NEW adventure.
If I get the RPi units running on DMR,? ?I suppose have to load different software on Nextion Screen to display the information???
?
Lots of questions from a newbie Raspberry Pi user!
Thoughts? ? Comments? ?Assistance? ?
73...Norm
?


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 

That's very interesting, Rob.? Thanks for sharing the site.
Jonathan WD6BNY?


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 

You can play around with this site.. ?


Re: Pi5 12v supply

 

"USE A BEEFY USB CHARGING CABLE designed to charge smart phones and laptop fast charging:?



On Wednesday, October 2, 2024, 09:51:07 AM CDT, David Ranch via groups.io <rpi4hamradio-groupsio@...> wrote:
I have used these to successfully power my RPi5 with NVMe SSD: ?
$13 YIPIN HEXHA 10-32V DC in to 5.2V 6A dual USB type C outputs?

?? - Note that on the graphics shown, it's only 3A per USB-C cable so for a fully loaded Rpi5, that will be 2A too little


$10 Klnuoxj 8-32V to 5V. 5A. USB-C PD Step Down Converter. 95% effeciency, Waterproof.

?? - This looks better


The RPi5 will run fine with 3A or more at 5V PD, if there is no USB load, but a 5 ampere or more 5.2 V supply is necessary to draw the maximum 1.6A from the USB ports.? ?

I don't think the Rpi5 supports USB PD (power delivery) to really negotiate anything other than 5V @ 5A.? I hope that changes someday and future Rpi boards support various different input voltages/amperages.


Normally, the RPi5 is configured to use USB-C Power Delivery (PD) protocol, to negotiate 5A from the PD capable Raspberry Pi 5.1 volt mains power adapter,?
and shuts down if it fails to get PD acknowledgement that 5 A is available.

It won't shut down.. it will just warn you with "This power supply is not capable of supplying 5A. Power to peripherals will be restricted."


?
However, if you edit and add the following lines to the end of file /boot/firmware/config.txt :?
? usb_max_current_enable=1?
This will force the RPi5 to ignore the Power delivery communication, and assume the power supply is capable of delivering 5A.
This change allows many 12 volt to 5.2 volt USB power converters and automotive USB outlets to power the RPi5.

That's right.


The USB-C Power Delivery 3.0 standard specifies a 5 volts at 3.0 amperes; ?however, the PD protocol allows for requesting higher current. ?
The Raspberry Pi 5 wall wart acknowledges a PD request for 5 amperes.

Yeah.. though 5v @ 5A its technically not in the USB PD spec ( ) .? Sigh...


The RPi5 will deliver an "Under-voltage" warning when operating below 4.63 volts, as measured at GPIO pin 2 or 4.?
?In Raspian OS, a lightning bolt appears in the upper right corner of the display.
?In Raspberry Pi OS, a "Low voltage warning" text appears in the display upper right corner.?
?"Under-voltage detected!" is also logged in dmesg for each occurrence.

Also in the vcgencmd get_throttled


?
Often the cause is too much voltage drop in a poor USB power cable.?
I have taken apart flimsy cables where the wires were not soldered, and relied upon the rubber over-molding to hold the wires in contact with the connector pins.??
USE A BEEFY USB CHARGING CABLE designed to charge smart phones and laptop fast charging:?
? $5 USB A to C ?
? $6 USB-C to C ?
?
To see what the RPi5 measures on the 5V input, enter on the terminal:?
? ?vcgencmd pmic_read_adc | grep EXT5V_V
?
With all USB loads attached, enter in the terminal:?
? dmesg | grep voltage?
To see if "Under-voltage" is occurring.?
?


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 

I did give Fldigi a quick try as I've used it with success before on Windows, but my initial attempts on the RPI failed to decode my keying although it was working okay with CW in all other respects.? I think the problem may be the way the audio paths are routed on the sBitx pi build?
?
Anyway, I'll shelve this quest for now as it was only "a nice to have" , thanks all.? 73 Chris - M0KNF


Re: Pi5 12v supply

 

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I have used these to successfully power my RPi5 with NVMe SSD: ?
$13 YIPIN HEXHA 10-32V DC in to 5.2V 6A dual USB type C outputs?

?? - Note that on the graphics shown, it's only 3A per USB-C cable so for a fully loaded Rpi5, that will be 2A too little


$10 Klnuoxj 8-32V to 5V. 5A. USB-C PD Step Down Converter. 95% effeciency, Waterproof.

?? - This looks better


The RPi5 will run fine with 3A or more at 5V PD, if there is no USB load, but a 5 ampere or more 5.2 V supply is necessary to draw the maximum 1.6A from the USB ports.? ?

I don't think the Rpi5 supports USB PD (power delivery) to really negotiate anything other than 5V @ 5A.? I hope that changes someday and future Rpi boards support various different input voltages/amperages.


Normally, the RPi5 is configured to use USB-C Power Delivery (PD) protocol, to negotiate 5A from the PD capable Raspberry Pi 5.1 volt mains power adapter,?
and shuts down if it fails to get PD acknowledgement that 5 A is available.

It won't shut down.. it will just warn you with "This power supply is not capable of supplying 5A. Power to peripherals will be restricted."


?
However, if you edit and add the following lines to the end of file /boot/firmware/config.txt :?
? usb_max_current_enable=1?
This will force the RPi5 to ignore the Power delivery communication, and assume the power supply is capable of delivering 5A.
This change allows many 12 volt to 5.2 volt USB power converters and automotive USB outlets to power the RPi5.

That's right.


The USB-C Power Delivery 3.0 standard specifies a 5 volts at 3.0 amperes; ?however, the PD protocol allows for requesting higher current. ?
The Raspberry Pi 5 wall wart acknowledges a PD request for 5 amperes.

Yeah.. though 5v @ 5A its technically not in the USB PD spec ( ) .? Sigh...


The RPi5 will deliver an "Under-voltage" warning when operating below 4.63 volts, as measured at GPIO pin 2 or 4.?
?In Raspian OS, a lightning bolt appears in the upper right corner of the display.
?In Raspberry Pi OS, a "Low voltage warning" text appears in the display upper right corner.?
?"Under-voltage detected!" is also logged in dmesg for each occurrence.

Also in the vcgencmd get_throttled


?
Often the cause is too much voltage drop in a poor USB power cable.?
I have taken apart flimsy cables where the wires were not soldered, and relied upon the rubber over-molding to hold the wires in contact with the connector pins.??
USE A BEEFY USB CHARGING CABLE designed to charge smart phones and laptop fast charging:?
? $5 USB A to C ?
? $6 USB-C to C ?
?
To see what the RPi5 measures on the 5V input, enter on the terminal:?
? ?vcgencmd pmic_read_adc | grep EXT5V_V
?
With all USB loads attached, enter in the terminal:?
? dmesg | grep voltage?
To see if "Under-voltage" is occurring.?
?


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 

One possible way would be to write a python script that reads a GPIO pin (or two, one for dots and one for dashes if you want an iambic paddle), plays a tone using the simpleaudio library. Then use jack to route that sound into a virtual sound card that FLdigi can use.?
?
I did something similar to this using a RP2040W to generate MIDI data that connected wirelessly over Bluetooth to a virtual instrument on my Mac, but it was mostly just to see if I could write it. I didn't go much beyond any practical application.?


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 

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Perhaps rig up something with FLDIGI and a code practice oscillator?

Greg? KO6TH


Larry Taylor via groups.io wrote:


I know of none.

On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 11:52:39 AM PDT, Chris Bolton <boltonbicycles@...> wrote:


I'm in the process of getting reacquainted with the RPI and was wondering if there is an app (like PCW Fistcheck for Windows) that would work as a decoder for CW practice?? Xdemorse looks promising but I'm having trouble getting it configured correctly.


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 

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Hi

I may misunderstand what you want but I think Fldigi would work. I decodes CW and other digital modes just fine.

Like I said I may not know just what you are looking for Fldigi and other software is found at . I don't know how to make that link auto transfer to a browser but copy and paste will work.

Marty kd8bj


On 10/1/24 14:54, Larry Taylor via groups.io wrote:


I know of none.

On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 11:52:39 AM PDT, Chris Bolton <boltonbicycles@...> wrote:


I'm in the process of getting reacquainted with the RPI and was wondering if there is an app (like PCW Fistcheck for Windows) that would work as a decoder for CW practice?? Xdemorse looks promising but I'm having trouble getting it configured correctly.


Re: Decoder for CW practice?

 


I know of none.

On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 11:52:39 AM PDT, Chris Bolton <boltonbicycles@...> wrote:


I'm in the process of getting reacquainted with the RPI and was wondering if there is an app (like PCW Fistcheck for Windows) that would work as a decoder for CW practice?? Xdemorse looks promising but I'm having trouble getting it configured correctly.


Decoder for CW practice?

 

I'm in the process of getting reacquainted with the RPI and was wondering if there is an app (like PCW Fistcheck for Windows) that would work as a decoder for CW practice?? Xdemorse looks promising but I'm having trouble getting it configured correctly.


Re: remote

 

Robert,
?? Yes and that setup is rather very easy because you can just link your Network to it and not worry about going outside of your home network and come back in through your I.P. provider.
--
Allen Higgins
Brunswick, Ohio
KE8KZO


Re: remote

 


On Sunday, September 29th, 2024 at 16:46, robert rothman <rothmanrobert6@...> wrote:
Will raspberry pi? 4? work? remote on bluetooth or wi fi? to a compuer in another room? thanks

Over wifi - easily.? As long as SSH is enabled and you have login credentials
for the unit, it's the same as just about any other Linux server.

The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
WWW: https://drwho.virtadpt.net/
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