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A Mysterious 'Population B' Split From Humans 1.5 Million Years Ago¡ªand Its DNA Is Still Inside You Who knew our ¡°cousins¡± were so smart? Read in Popular Mechanics: https://apple.news/A9MlKEbSUTvmc9oA5jNEEBA Dan D

Hi, This is my brothers line FT72134 downstream of S11515 Driffield 3 but separated from him by quite a long period of time. I believe our three Germanic 'prisoners of war' turned out to be Britons. I am actually closer to the Nordic Celtic one autosomal DNA I live in Northern England but near the West Coast. Certainly our branch of R1b seems to have stretched far and wide. Our nearest Continental Cousin is a Finn we share an ancestor in around 300 B.C I think. We have no other matches apart from 4 downstream American's who share their SNP. The reason for taking a test was our family name turned out to be a Widows married name, no genetic connection to the name whatsoever, my Dad would have been very upset by this but such is life, people died all the time the poor couple only had one surviving child out of seven. Our matches are all called Smith (great name for Unetice men I suppose) but our shared ancestor is 1100 a.d so no guarantees on the surname being the same. This line was more West Pennine area and moved more North West over time. SNP tracker has the line coming into Britain in the late Bronze Age Wave, obviously I am not including my male ancestor in this with a Finn being the closest match in 300 a.d. According to MyTrueAncestry I don't have much in the way of Anglo Saxon archaic matches at all but whether they list Langobards for Frisians I am not sure, I get about 8% for them (Langobards) and about 5% for Unetice. My brother has matches in La Tene graves and Viking graves but none are close. They are so diverse stretched from Hungary and Romania to Bavaria and France then Viking Kill Sites in Britain so it's difficult to figure out what happened and which way it went. They all seem distant in time from my brother. So far FTDNA has an estimated time of arrival in the U.K around 150 BC but if a Continental Cousin turns up obviously that will have to be revised. I thought they were saying they did think some U106 arrived earlier than thought...maybe that's who the Romans bumped into in Kent when they described them as tall and fair? Might they have arrived with Belgae? I don't really mind but it would be nice to know who it arrived with. Out of 5 kits I have sponsored for family 2 x full sequence MtDNA and 4 x Y700 I only have a clear answer for one. Regards Linda

Dear all, I've updated my phylogeography document with information about the basal clades of R-Z156. This includes about 1/3 of R-Z156, namely everyone who isn't in R-DF98 or R-DF96, which are large enough and different enough that I'll deal with them separately and in that order. Before this analysis, my assumption from ancient DNA* was that the line between R-U106 and R-Z304 and may be even down to my own R-S1894 stayed in Bohemia during that time, because we had these two ancient DNA results from near the foundation of these haplogroups in almost exactly the same area. However, even after correcting for testing biases, every sub-clade of R-Z156 has a distribution much further west than Bohemia, so it's likely that R-Z156 grew up west of there too. I've always assumed that this was down to either testing biases or later migrations pushing testers preferentially west, but careful examination of our project's current data suggest these ideas can't be supported any more. Consequently, I'm looking at R-Z156 having a role in the Corded Ware Culture of southern Germany, which transitions into the western part of the Unetice culture when this arises. *PNL001 = R-U106 to I7196 = R-Z304, maybe R-DF98>S1911>S1894 Most of R-Z156's smaller branches seem to stay in southern Germany for some time, although there's a possibility that some of them migrate westward to France at an early stage. Some may go eastward as well but, where there's any evidence, the few R-Z156xDF98xDF96 testers south and east of Bohemia seem to be from post-Roman Germanic migrations. Cheers, Iain.

Might someone know of Michael St. Clair whose dissertation was titled ¡°Germanic Origins from the Perspective of the Y-Chromosome¡± https://escholarship.org/uc/item/9v44n49p Unlike most dissertations I have bothered to read, St. Clair¡¯s is well written though it is dated (2012) Currently, Michael St. Clair is Doctor of Philosophy, German Linguistics, University of California at Berkeley Principal Investigator at Genetic-Linguistic Interface Link to St Clair 2014 Crimean-Goths https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael-St-Clair/publication/378706393_St_Clair_2014_Crimean-Goths/links/65e5f937e7670d36abfd11a0/St-Clair-2014-Crimean-Goths.pdf

Meet ¡®Pink,¡¯ the new face of human evolution in Europe Western Europe has a new oldest face: the facial bones of an adult nicknamed "Pink" discovered in Spain are from a potential new member of the human family who lived more than 1.1 million years ago, scientists said Wednesday. Read in AFP News: https://apple.news/AaNQk2CBHSx2Sdns3S8vYQgCheers, Dan D.

R-L45 , R-L493 The surname of Stephen Warman of Balanterodoch, Scotland is close to the actual surname of W?rmund W?RMUND. ¡° 1237, the town name was recorded as "Ballentrodoch", from the Scottish Gaelic Baile nan Trodach, which means "town of the warriors¡± Read the story of ¡°¡±King W?RMUND¡±¡± of England and ¡°¡±King Uffa¡±¡± his son.[5] W?rmundingt¨±n ¡®settlement (Old English t¨±n) associated with W?rmund Balanterodoch, Scotland ¡° Balantrodach

I don¡¯t recall anyone having made mention of the following: A distinct genetic marker, carried by descendants of Robert the Bruce¡¯s close relatives, has been identified by researchers at the University of Strathclyde. Although there are varying theories about the exact relationship between the Bruces of Clackmannan and King Robert the Bruce, there is a consensus that it was very close. In the Register of the Great Seal for 1365, a charter of King David II confirms a grant of lands in Clackmannan to Robert Bruce, who is described in Latin as ¡°dilecto et fideli nostro consanguineo¡± (our beloved and faithful kinsman). This Robert is first mentioned in 1360 as the young heir of his father, Thomas Bruce. The genetic marker has been given the name FTB15831. https://www.strath.ac.uk/whystrathclyde/news/2022/geneticmarkerdiscoveredfordescendantsofbruceclan/

Dear all, A very short update to my Phylogeography document to include the minor R-Z381 clades. This is all of R-Z381 except R-Z156, R-S1688 and R-L48. In other words, it doesn't impact on most people, but it is hopefully valuable for the few folks that inhabit these smaller haplogroups! Cheers, Iain.

I now have 5 Big Y tested members in the VanHouten project, all in or downstream of R-BY71870, with 4 of the 5 having paper trails back to one Roelof Cornelisz. van Houten, who was first recorded as drawing supplies in 1638 in the records of Rensselaerswyck, New Netherlands. The fifth I was only able to trace back to a Henry Van Houten, recorded in the 1850 census of Salem, Washtenaw County, Michigan at age 77 with presumed wife Susan, but this 5th match (and my original Big & match) is grouped with a descendant of Roelof's son Cornelis in R-BY81828. The most recent match I had hoped would produce a new haplogroup with me, as I had traced him to be descended, like me, from Roelof's son Helmagh, while the remaining tester is descended from his third son, Theunis, but the three of us are still grouped together in R-BY71870. The big surprise is that the new tester matches the two members of R-FTA73229, with the most recent common haplogroup being R-Y98475, which is estimated to have been created in 450AD.

Any views on the new feature on My Heritage- Ancient origins reports? -- Kevin Terry

Hi Shane, You might want to check YFull again. Currently the R-Y340824 group is empty, but it does show a sample YF131078, which I presume is yours, at R-FGC17465*. Since YFull only has a small number of testers compared to Family Tree DNA, not all the haplogroups are represented, and some are represented under different names. R-FGC17465 at YFull is equivalent to R-FGC17460 at YFull, since there are no FGC17465+ FGC17460- testers to form a new haplogroup. Consequently, both of you are placed in R-FGC17465=R-FGC17460, and given a TMRCA of ~2200 years. Cheers, Iain.

Hi Jason, I find the best way to visualise these ancient connections is via Discover's Time Tree. However, if you do this, you will see no ancient connections listed! There is a reason for this - all these ancient connections are a very long way back in the past. The key date for you is the "shared ancestor" dates. These show that your closest relation with these ancient DNA results (Pruszcz Gda¨½ski 479, Koksijde 15, Groningen 12, Nagytarcsa 19 and Denmark Historical 3) is about 2150 BC. In other words, these individuals may have lived in the medieval or even modern time periods, but even your closest relations among them aren't related to you in the last 4000 years or so. They have very limited relevance to your family's story. To understand the history of your male lineage, you might be interested in my recent phylogeography document. This doesn't go quite as detailed as R-FTE23068, but it does cover R-FGC14877 on page 32. I think a Scandinavian origin is less likely. North-western Europe is probably more likely, with a migration to the British Isles taking place probably at some point in the first millennium AD (i.e., any time from the Roman era up to the Norman conquest). Best wishes, Iain.

Researchers zero in on original Indo-Europeans Ancient DNA and archaeology studies zero in on a population living 6,000 years ago between the Caucasus and the lower Volga River as origin of the family of languages now spoken from Europe to India https://apple.news/ADOTyPDRCQf6RWaUow4JrkA Dan D

Hi all, I've pushed out the latest update to my phylogeography document for R-U106. As well as the R-U106 basal clades, it now includes the migrations of R-Z18 and its sub-clades. The key geographical split of R-Z18 is between the Nordic countries (particularly Norway and Sweden) and the Alpine countries (particularly Switzerland and Slovakia). This geography is unique to R-Z18 among all R-U106 sub-clades. Looking at homogeneity and heterogeneity in individual R-Z18 sub-clades, I've deduced that R-Z18 did not begin in either of these extremes, but probably somewhere in the middle. I've assumed an origin and initial growth in the southern end of the Nordic Bronze Age and dated the subsequent migrations north and south to the rise of the Germanic peoples. That is not to say that all R-Z18 were Germanic, but that the majority seem to be. The Jastorf culture probably plays a significant role in the growth of R-Z18, but I've not been able to pin that role down precisely. See the document for full details and information about individual haplogroups. Much of it is necessarily either speculative or imprecise, as this is really getting as much as we can out of the data. Don't expect a lot of the detail to be accurate or unchanging in the future, and there may well be different explanations that I haven't thought of that fit the data better than the understanding I've been able to build up. This represents the last chunk I was able to get done over the Christmas holidays. I'm expecting the next chunk will take me some time. All the best, Iain.

Greetings and HNY, For those of you concerned with the subclade in the heading, here is a small update. As you may recall, in the past I have suggested that the Curry lineages of Ayrshire are unlikely to descend from the Dumfriesshire Corries, given that the early records (11-1200s) show Curry already in Ayrshire. I recently checked the Wikipedia entry for Corrie, which devotes a small paragraph to this issue: "The Norse Chronicle H¨¢konar saga H¨¢konarsonar records the valiant deeds of a Scottish knight at the Battle of Largs in 1263. His name is recorded in the saga as "Ferus" and "Perus", and it describes how he rode out through the ranks of enemy¡ªthe Norwegians¡ªand back to his own lines to safety before being slain.[4] Modern historians have tentatively identified this saga character with Piers de Curry. from Ayrshire, who was a vassal of the Stewarts.[5][6] However, it is not certain that he was connected with the Annandale family." One of the references for this assertion, the book "Viking Empires" published about 20 years ago, is available on Archive.org. In it we can read: "Parts of the Norwegian force, however, made a stand at the vessels that had been driven ashore by the storms at various points along the beach, using the vessels as makeshift fortifications, and succeeded in driving back the Scots, killing a knight named ¡®Perus¡¯, who has been identified tentatively as Piers de Curry, an Ayrshire vassal of the Stewarts.¡ã*" The reference here is the same as the other reference in the Wikipedia article, which dates from 1981. Hence scholarly opinion appears to suggest that the de Curry lineage of Ayrshire (in the A6535 subclade) may well descend from one of the vassals who accompanied Walter FitzAlan to Ayrshire in about 1141. Cheers, Roy

For those of us here in America there is a new project where you might be able to get your exome sequenced with potentially the results being added to your medical record. Still early as to whether you would be able to con your medical professional to allow you to download the data for your personal assembly and analysis. https://www.truveta.com/blog/announcement/leading-us-health-systems-launch-the-truveta-genome-project/ Wayne

There is currently a major project at Exeter University which is using AI to transcribe 25,000 wills from the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. I am sure there will be many exciting discoveries. You can read about the project here: https://sites.exeter.ac.uk/materialcultureofwills/ The project is highlighting interesting wills once a month on their blog: https://sites.exeter.ac.uk/materialcultureofwills/blog/ Debbie Kennett