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A new poll has been created: Module17 is an adapter for (typically, mobile) radios with a flat audio (data, or 9600) input. It's open source and the primary source for one that is assembled and tested is LILYGO - https://lilygo.cc/products/module17-revision-0-1e. But two problems with that unit: * The version LILYGO (had been) shipping is Rev. 0.1e, and the current hardware design is Rev. 1.0 (lots of fixes and updates). * LILYGO shows that Module17-Revision 0.1e is out of stock. Thus I'd like to do a poll about the use and interest of Module 17. Your answers would help out a lot. I will close this poll approximately Monday 2025-03-17. (Apologies - this is the first time I've conducted a poll on 开云体育, so I'm fumbling my way through it.) Multiple choices are allowed, and I've set this poll not to display who has responded to the poll. Steve Stroh N8GNJ 1. I am interested in Module17 to operate M17 mode with a mobile radio that has flat audio inputs. 2. I've already purchased a Module17. 3. I'm waiting to purchase a Module17 when Rev. 1.0 is available for purchase. 4. I'm willing to pay more for Module17 if I can get a Rev. 1.0 from a source other than LILYGO. Click Here To Vote Do not reply to this message to vote in the poll. You can vote in polls only through the group's website.

M17 Conference 2025 in Poland, September 6-7 (Sat-Sun) The M17 Foundation is pleased to inform that the M17 Conference 2025 will take place on 6-7 September, in Nowy Dwór Mazowiecki, Poland. The main topic will be open-source software and hardware development in the amateur radio realm, with the emphasis on M17 and all the solutions around it. Any topic that might be interesting to the ham radio community is welcomed! The venue is located very conveniently, just 40km from Warsaw, and a stone's throw from the Warsaw-Modlin airport. The event will be a combination of technical talk sessions and exhibitions. Admission is free. Speakers and exhibitors are required to register. The registration form is available through the link below. More info: https://m17foundation.org/m17-conference-2025 Wojciech Kaczmarski, SP5WWP M17 Foundation

Are there any existing M17 implementations which implement either AES encryption or ECDSA signatures? Kind Regards, Rob Riggs WX9O Mobilinkd LLC

Apologies for being missing on this list. I’ve been keeping an eye on it, and eagerly read any postings. The subscriber count has grown to 158, with 40 distinct topics discussed, since its creation on 2024-05-31. I decided to promote, encourage, evangelize M17 in Zero Retries, and create this list, because I discovered that “all the pieces were in place” for M17 to be a viable alternative to DMR, D-Star, System Fusion, and others. Thanks to the very hard work of Wojciech Kaczmarski SP5WWP and others, M17 is no longer an experiment, but a usable system. (To be clear, I’m not positing that M17 is now static and done - there’s still ample experimentation and evolution possible, and hoped for.) Those pieces included MMDVM supporting M17 as “just another digital voice mode” enabling repeaters (that have incorporated an MMDVM) to provide M17 service, M17 “modems”, the Mobilinkd TNC3 and TNC4, modifications for radios developed by OpenRTX, and most recently, the Connect Systems CS7000 M17 and CS7000 M17 PLUS portable radios. Other M17 “pieces” are referenced in the (new to me) M17 (amateur radio) Wikipedia article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M17_(amateur_radio). (Kudos if the author of that is on this list.) I had a secondary, but strong reason for reason to promote, encourage, evangelize M17 in Zero Retries. M17 was the first digital voice mode in use for Amateur Radio that (as best I understand it) incorporated data as co-equal to digital voice. As in, you can transmit data as easily as digital voice, and data transmissions would be handled through all M17 infrastructure, especially repeaters. It’s still queued up for me to document the “dirty details” of how poorly data is accommodated in DMR, D-Star, System Fusion, and P25… “data capability” is present in all of those, but it’s so poorly implemented as to be impractical for actual use in Amateur Radio. Here’s MY problem with data in M17… I have no idea HOW to actually use the data capability of M17. I haven’t (to date) seen a “Using Data on M17 for Dummies” guide. I should, and have had on my to do list for a while, buy a TNC4 and learn how the TNC4 handles data over M17. Candidly, I have my (writing and research) “hands” full at the moment with various high priority projects in Zero Retries to dive into this and learn the details and document them myself. Not to mention a bit of support to M17 behind the scenes. So… the challenge you “M17 USERS"… could one of you experts in using M17 (and there are a number of you on this list) dig out the details and write up exactly, in detail, how one uses data on M17? PLEASE don’t be intimidated by the need to “write a formal paper” or an article or any of such extraneous issue. What’s needed is the detailed information about how to use data on M17. If someone is able to explain / document it, I can clean it up and publish it with full credit to the author(s). This writeup isn’t intended solely for Zero Retries - I think it’s a critical piece of info for promoting M17, and so it will be reformatted into a standalone article for posting to the M17 Project website. Why does this matter? Because with the success with the CS7000 M17 and CS7000 M17 PLUS (they’re selling…), I’ll guess that we’re about to see more radios coming out with “from the factory” support for M17. But the CS7000 M17 and M17 PLUS only implemented M17 voice - not data (as far as I have seen from their marketing material). If we don’t popularize M17’s data capability, and SOON, then the ability to use data in those new radios won’t be enabled. I hope that eventually using data on M17 will be as simple as connecting a USB cable or connecting via Bluetooth between a host computer (laptop, Raspberry Pi) and an M17 enabled radio and connect to the radio like a KISS TNC. Or something equally simple. The first radio to incorporate M17 voice + data will get the “full evangelism” treatment in Zero Retries that I gave the emergence of the CS7000 M17. My profound Thanks to those who accept my challenge. Steve N8GNJ --- Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his) Editor Zero Retries New

One of our club members is trying to modify a pair of the MD-380 radios for the M17 mod but says that the current board layout doesn't match the one in the YouTube videos and that he can't locate one of the capacitors that's to be removed. Does anyone have any info on this issue? Thanks Jon WB2MNF

Saw this in the M17 group on Facebook: https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/1hrgcqb/m17_is_my_2025_resolution_join_me/?rdt=38135 Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his) Editor Zero Retries Newsletter - https://www.zeroretries.org Radios are Computers - With Antennas!

Does anyone know if the following is possible on M17? If one uses DVSwitch, you can, via a cron job change the mode, talk group etc. I use the M17 Reflector and USRP-gateway. Anything similar??? Thank you and Happy Holidays!

This development is very new: https://m17foundation.org I view this is a big step forward in the evolution of M17 into the “mainstream”. Thanks, Steve N8GNJ Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his) Editor Zero Retries Newsletter - https://www.zeroretries.org Radios are Computers - With Antennas!

Since there’s no online (web) archive of these email notices from Connect Systems about the CS 7000 M17 and M17 PLUS radios, and this being the m17-users community, in the future I will be forwarding these to this email list, which does generate a “web page” that can be linked to. Thanks, Steve Stroh N8GNJ --- Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his) Editor Zero Retries Newsletter - https://www.zeroretries.org Radios are Computers - With Antennas! ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Connect Systems Inc. <jerry-connectsystems.com@...> Date: Nov 22, 2024 at 13:17:19 Subject: CS7000 M17 PLUS Firmware Status Email from Connect Systems Inc. Summary of Status of Firmware The CS7000 M17 PLUS is now properly transmitting. Receive is intermittent and needs to be fixed. CS7000 M17 PLUS Firmware Status as of November 22 From developer (Silvano) (November 22) Hi Jerry, everything is up and running except for the M17 demodulation. For some reason I'm not fully understanding, the demodulator fails to lock on the incoming signal very often; however, once it locks, the demodulation is stable, you can hear the audio and the screen shows the correct stream information. The hardware part is good, I did both an eye diagram of the incoming baseband signal and demodulated it using a Module17: this worked immediately, the problem seems to be somewhere between the STM32H7 ADC and the code. The interesting fact is that the Module17 is running the same exact demodulator code of the CS7000-M17 Plus and it works. I'll keep you updated. Bye, Silvano. From developer (Silvano) (November 19) Hi Jerry, today I found and fixed the bug causing the missing M17 transmission on the CS7000-Plus. I'm still working to find the issue causing the missing RX: the baseband signal coming from the RF stage looks good, the problem seems to be in the firmware; tomorrow I'll make an eye diagram to see if everything is really ok. Bye, Silvano. Order the CS7000 M17 PLUS Now Connect Systems Inc. | 18022 Delano Street | Encino, CA 91316 US Unsubscribe | Update Profile | Constant Contact Data Notice

Hi Everyone, Just got into M17 project. M17 Module (rev. 0.1e) with mic/speaker Radioddity RS22, connected to FTM-500DE through an home made cable DB9 to Mini-DIN 10. So far, I was able to have two QSOs: 1) over hotspot, reflector M17-M17; and 2) RF, antenna to antenna. On both QSOs, I found the sound to be frequently squeaking / high pitch. Any audio setting that I'm missing on M17 module? Anyone with the same experience? Regards, Anaxi

-- Steve Davidson K3FZT | GMRS: WRVS468 Winlink Gateway K3FZT-10@... direct or via W3EOC-3 Supporting VARA FM Wide/1200bd Packet WIRES-X Room #85218 "MARC-DARBY" 444.050 mHz K3FZT@... FN20ja ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Connect Systems Inc. <jerry-connectsystems.com@...> Date: Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 1:59 PM Subject: CS7000 M17 and CS7000 M17 PLUS Status To: CS7000 M17 and CS7000 M17 PLUS Status Summary and Implications of Status The CS7000 M17 final beta version is almost finished. You can load the latest from GitHub any time you wish. I will try to maintain a copy of the latest on my website. The CS7000 M17 PLUS hardware will be shipped to us sometime next week. We will ship soon after. The radio will ship with the DMR and Analog firmware but this version will not have the standard paging firmware that Amateurs do not normally use anyway. We will include the paging in a future version soon after the radio is shipped. The M17 firmware is about a month away for the M17 CS7000 PLUS. Hardware & FIrmware Status from CoValue (Manufacturer) Thanks for your new order! Do you need 2-tone/MDC/DTMF for CS7000 M17 PLUS? If no need this time, we could ship your 200 pcs PLUS early next week as the engineer has not finished those parts. Note: "Thanks for your new order" means I ordered accessories for the radio besides the radios themselves. I told him to ship the radios without the paging firmware. M17 FIrmware Status from Silvano (M17 software guru) Hello Jerry, I have to kindly ask to enhance your calm [1], thank you. You sent the previous email on Saturday 12/10: I don't have my phone connected to my email account and I rarely use the computer on the weekends. In any case I'd have sent you a status update in these days (the original plan was to do it yesterday). This said, the current situation is: - the breaking changes introduced in the codebase to support the CS7000 have been merged to master; - the code for the CS7000 BSP is now publicly available on the OpenRTX github repository in a dedicated branch [2]; - I plan to make a new tagged release in the immediate future, once the remaining major bugs on the CS7000 are solved (lagging UI when M17 voice is being reproduced); Regarding the CS7000 Plus, I already started working on the RTOS porting/BSP for the STM32H7 and, if everything goes well, I should be able to have a firmware image within a month. In the meantime, I'll send you intermediate firmware updates whenever I reach meaningful development points. Apart from the USB support, which will require bringing in the tinyusb library, the "hot spots" of the development work are the ADC and DAC driver: on the rest, I'm not expecting particular surprises. In the meantime there is some work ongoing on the OpenRTX-companion tool, which will allow to flash the firmware and do backup, restore and data management on the external flash. For the codeplug part, there is an RFC currently open on the OpenRTX website repository [3]: the plan is to close it soon and adapt the codeplug code to the new format as well as start mainlining the rtxlink implementation, that is the backend protocol used for memory and CPS management. Considering the overall development, I want to close the porting for the CS7000 Plus as soon as possible and then concentrate all the efforts in finishing the CPS part once and for all the platforms by the end of the year. The OpenRTX codeplug format comes both in binary and json format, which should facilitate the development of third-party tools for codeplug creation and editing. There is also some work ongoing at the qdmr project in order to support the OpenRTX codeplug format, but currently I don't know at which point the development is. Best regards, Silvano Seva. [1] https://http.cat/status/420 [2] https://github.com/OpenRTX/OpenRTX/tree/CS7000 [3] https://github.com/OpenRTX/openrtx.github.io/pull/32 Connect Systems Inc. | 18022 Delano Street | Encino, CA 91316 US

Hi, any update on the shipping status of the CS-7000 M17 Plus? should have been October 15th but apparently is further delayed… 55&73 Werner

This might be a bit of a silly question, but here goes: Are we allowed to do M17 on VHF? All of the radio examples I see on the M17 Project site are UHF, so I'm wondering if there are bandwidth or other issues that prevent the use on VHF? Thanks, -Dj

Can someone address the status of M17 on this rig, please? https://www.csi-radios.com/cs800d-fcc-part-90/ As a dual band with extended UHF receive, Part 90, detachable faceplate, extra memory, adaptive firmware, etc. it seems cool. $429. is a little pricey ... I wonder if they sell refurbished returns at a discount? If used at home could a computer interface replace the features of the CS-BFD? I like the idea of the CS-BFD - if I were mobile more I'd want one. The CS-800D hardware appears to be 3 years old - is there a planned update or is the stock and demand, and the adaptive firmware, such that no new hardware features (and the cost to manufacture such) is planned? Thanks, kd4e