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Re: Bill Wilson Army career
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I think he enlisted in the Coastal Artillery in 1917 not 1971 hahaha!!? I also remember reading there was some delays reaching the war due to flu. Not him personally....
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob S <rstonebraker212@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:12 AM To: AA History Lovers Group <[email protected]> Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Bill Wilson Army career ?
Gerry C asked: May I piggyback on this with a broader question....how long was Bill in the Army, what unit and what rank did he hold when he detached again? Thank you. ** ? Bill was called to service late 1971 (PIO , p. 407) and released during spring of 1919 (PIO p. 61), so approximately a year and a half. ? He was a second Lieutenant (PIO ?p. 54) at first, and I have found no evidence that a promotion followed.? ? Bob S ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Bob S |
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Bill Wilson Army career
开云体育Gerry C asked: May I piggyback on this with a broader question....how long was Bill in the Army, what unit and what rank did he hold when he detached again? Thank you. ** ? Bill was called to service late 1971 (PIO , p. 407) and released during spring of 1919 (PIO p. 61), so approximately a year and a half. ? He was a second Lieutenant (PIO ?p. 54) at first, and I have found no evidence that a promotion followed.? ? Bob S ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Bob S |
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Spring NAAAW 2020 News
FYI--Archives GSO meeting on Zoom ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: National A.A. Archives Workshop <website@...> Date: Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 3:44 PM Subject: Spring NAAAW 2020 News To: <jimincancun@...>
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An April Salute to Bill W
开云体育? BILL WILSON’S TENACITY
?????During this period, Bill helped raise $500 ($7,247 today) to mail out 20,000 post cards to physicians announcing an upcoming Gabriel Heatter radio program? where Morgan Ryan (former advertising man, asylum patient, and friend of Gabriel Heatter)? was to present a pitch for the new Big Book—they received only 12 replies.? ????But Bill, always the optimist—at least between his depressions—continued full speed?? ahead. Aren’t we lucky that Bill Wilson was what he was!? Some AAs point out that Bill had character defects. WHO CARES!? Bob S ? -- Bob S |
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Re: Questions
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On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Bob S <rstonebraker212@...> wrote:
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Drafts of "Bill's Story"
开云体育I have attached copies of the first and second drafts of “Bill’s Story.”? Both were typed by Ruth Hock, Bill’s secretary, during spring of 1938. You will notice many differences between these two writings—neither of these drafts were included verbatim in the “Manuscript” (attached).? The Manuscript was finished by Bill Wilson in December of that year, but it was edited (changed) again during the early months of 1939. The Big Book was printed the following April.? “So, “Bill’s Story” experienced almost a year of thoughtful changes—no wonderful it is so powerful!? ? These drafts tell us significant changes as “Bill’s Story” progressed. The Big Book Study Group of South New Jersey has produced a wonderful online illustration of the second draft with many interesting archival photos. Please download: ?
? Bob S ? Robert Stonebraker 212 SW 18th Street Richmond, In? 47374 (765) 935-0130 ? ? -- Bob S |
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开云体育I believe the attached photo is from the clubhouse on 24th Street in NY. The lady next to Bill is Ruth Hock. I think the person next to Bill on the other side is Dick Stanley (He Had to be Shown—3rd edition). He may have been “Fred” in the Big Book (p. 39-43). Question: Was lady next to Dick Stanley, ?Marty Mann? What about the others? ?? ? Thank you. ? Bob S -- Bob S |
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Re: FW: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience
开云体育I had read somewhere that it wasnt until 1959, the 4th or 5th printing of the 2nd edition that it was changed to these steps. I think its awesome so many people have so many early editions. ?
Gene
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark Everett <gpopmark@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:38 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] FW: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience ?
Hi,
I checked my first printing of the 12 & 12 ( April 1953 with the code D-C) and the wording in step 12 is "these steps" and yet the first printing of the second edition of the Big Book has, in How it Works, step 12, the wording is "those steps" and that was published two years later in 1955. Oh well, just another "huh ?' in our history. In Service, Mark -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Hickcox Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 11:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] FW: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience The wording was changed back to "these steps" in the Second Printing of Second Edition. I don't believe the 12&12 was affected. Tommy H |
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Re: FW: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience
I think thats pretty neat Irene! ?Does the 12 step say these steps or those steps??
On the blank page, just prior to the title page is the following:? "? ? ? ? ? ? ? IMPORTANT NOTICE ..This is a war time printing and is complete and unabridged in contents.? While the type face remains unchanged, the book has been drastically reduced in size and weight in? order to conform with Government regula- tions for saving paper."? ..? Irene R. |
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AA history lovers development updates and announcements sticky thread.
This is going to be a sticky thread where I make announcements to configuration changes and other things that I'm doing as I work towards ramping up this group to make it as dialed-in as possible.
For example, one of the changes that has been made is that you will now receive a daily digest instead of single messages (by default). You will no longer receive by default an email every single time somebody posts or replies to something, unless you decide to follow that message. You can override any of these settings and change it back if you like, so it shouldn't be a problem. I'm just trying to make it so that we don't get so much incoming email in our personal accounts as this forum grows. But if you like it the old way, simply go into your settings and change it back. And if you want even less emails than a daily digest you even have that option two, go look. This platform is really awesome. :) I also recommend to create a dedicated Gmail (or whatever service you like) that you then use just for this AAHL account so that you can see all of your own history at your own personal email account , as well. I just think that would be neat. It is not at all required of course but if you like the idea, by all means do it. You can always update your email address in settings at any time. As I make other additions and changes moving forward, I will be posting updates here in this announcement thread as to what they are. You can always send me comments and feedback as a direct mesage or email if you have any concerns or ideas and if we feel we need a group conscience on something I'll just create a chatroom for it or something or even a poll, no big deal. But to keep this particular thread dense with information I'm going to keep it locked for now.? Thank you.? Thom Your Moderator |
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Re: FW: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience
Was it In The 2nd printing of the first edition the 12th step was changed to read THESE steps instead of THOSE steps. I know it went back and forth in the 2nd printing. ? Also Herbert Spencer qoute was originally the first line of Ray Campbells Storey “An Artists Concept”. In the 2nd printing Bill dropped Rays storey but stole quote and moved it to the Spiritual Experience.? A side note: there are two known errors in the Big Book. One is June 10th and the other is Herbert Spencer did write that quote.? if Im wrong about this would you most great and knowledgable intellects please tell us facts.? sincerely |
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FW: [AAHistoryLovers] FW: Ebby Thacher: A glimpse
Arthur Sheehan
开云体育I sent this in on 4/9/20 – any chance on getting it posted? ? From: Arthur Sheehan
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AAHistoryLovers] FW: Ebby Thacher: A glimpse ? The link below contains a PowerPoint presentation on Ebby T and his family. The notes pages contain the narrative for the slides. Of particular interest is Ebby’s time in Texas where he had his longest period of sobriety. ? Ebby was definitely an unsung hero in accrediting the founding of AA. ? Cheers Arthur ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Bob S ? ? During the late summer of 1934 Ebby Thacher was drunkenly shooting at pigeons perched on his roof ?in a very exclusive neighborhood in Manchester, VT.? ?For this he developed a court date and was facing a period of confinement. However, an Oxford Group friend, Cebra Graves, whose father was the County Magistrate, ?got him off the hook. In fear. In the interim, Ebby had prayed to God, as never before, for relief from his compulsive drinking.? He was miraculously struck sober for a period of two years and seven months. He eventually became a resident of Calvary Mission in lower Manhattan. On a bleak November day of 1934, he carried he carried the Oxford Group message to Bill Wilson. (Big Book pp. 8 & 9).? Of course, this was an important precursor our fellowship. Clarence Snyder said: “Bill Wilson made the touchdown, but Ebby handed him the ball.”
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I feel as though Ebby Thacher has been short-shrimped in the annals of AA history reporting. Just think, what if Ebby had never shot at those pigeons. In gratitude, let us pray that he missed each and every one.? ? This information was Compiled by Bob S. from many sources. ? ? PS—The middle excerpt is from DR. BOB AND BILL W. SPEAK, by Michael Fitzpatrick Page 25 To study more about Ebby, read: EBBY, The man who Sponsored Bill W., by Mel B.? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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FW: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience
开云体育Jeffery, You asked:? “I have long been under the impression that "The Spiritual Experience" appendix was added to the First Edition in one of its printings.? What is true?” ? My reply: ? I have had the impression that Appendix II, “Spiritual Experience,“ was included in all the first edition printings except for the first one. ? I have 11th and 16th printings of first edition Big Books; both have Appendix II “Spiritual Experience” on the back pages. The 16th was the last 1st edition printing.? ? Bob S ? Robert Stonebraker 212 SW 18th Street Richmond, In? 47374 (765) 935-0130 ? ? ? ? ? From: AAHistoryLovers2@... <AAHistoryLovers2@...> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Bruce aliasjb@... [AAHistoryLovers2]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:10 PM To: aahistorylovers2@... Subject: [AAHistoryLovers2] The Spiritual Experience ? ? It has been years since I read the Preface to the Third Edition, and when I read it a couple of nights ago I noted that it said that the appendices were added with the publication of the 2nd Edition.? I have long been under the impression that "The Spiritual Experience" appendix was added to the First Edition in one of its printings.? What is true? ? Aliasjb@... __._,_.___
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