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Re: Im thinking there might be an easier way ....
If you installed the Oracle commercial JRE or JDK on Windows, then all you should to do is use File Explorer to view the directory into which you unzipped the YAAC.zip distribution file (you can't run it from inside the zip file), then double-click on YAAC.jar (the starting Java program for YAAC). That should get YAAC running.
If you used OpenJDK instead, you'll need to add the JRE's bin directory to your system PATH environment variable in Windows Control Panel (OpenJDK doesn't have a full-blown Windows installer like the Oracle commercial version does to automatically register the java.exe program as the program to open .jar files), then either do the above starting of YAAC from File Explorer, or open a Command window, use the 'cd' command to move to the directory when you unzipped YAAC, and type the command java -jar YAAC.jar Hope this all helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Chambers <veast1@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Im thinking there might be an easier way .... Hello. I've been a longtime Linux user and have used YAAC for quite a while now under Linux. I have just purchased a Microsoft Surface Pro 3. I admit to not knowing anything about Windows since Win98SE. I've searched over the web for how to get it (YAAC) running under JAVA on the Surface and have tried to look at he archives . here but have not resolved anything. I have installed both JDK (8u44??) and JRE. When i try to run it it pulls up a browser window and just makes a duplicate of the install file. Further research tells me i have to set a PATH and environment variables, etc. To me it seems l should just run WUBI and install a version of LINUX under Windows and try to run it that way. I really would appreciate any ideas anyone might have to get it to run with win 10.1. Thank-you much. Paul N6MYA |
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Im thinking there might be an easier way ....
Hello.
I've been a longtime Linux user and have used YAAC for quite a while now under Linux. I have just purchased a Microsoft Surface Pro 3. I
admit to not knowing anything about Windows since Win98SE. I've searched over the web for how to get it (YAAC) running under JAVA on
the Surface and have tried to look at he archives .
here but have not resolved anything.
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I have installed both JDK (8u44??) and JRE. When i try to run it it pulls up a browser window and just makes a duplicate of the install file.
Further research tells me i have to set a PATH and environment variables, etc. To me it seems l should just run WUBI and install a version of LINUX
under Windows and try to run it that way.
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I really would appreciate any ideas anyone might have to get it to run with win 10.1.
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Thank-you much.
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Paul N6MYA
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Re: sound plugin missing.
I just published new builds of core YAAC (1.0beta209) and the sounds plugin (1.2.4) yesterday evening. Try upgrading and see if the problems go away.
I did notice from studying your configuration that some of the events you specify as SOUND_FILE don't have a file path associated with them, so nothing will happen. And the event types with SOUND_FILE and a path to the sample_6s.wav file are types that may not happen. For example, you ask for a sound on NEW_STATION_IN_RANGE; if you haven't configured and enabled the Range filter, then nothing will be "in range". Is "hello" the name of your speech synthesizer program on your Windows 10 system? If not, then you won't get any synthesized speech. Also, any text-to-speech program you specify in the text field at the bottom of the Sounds configuration tab has to accept the text via its standard input; YAAC launches the program, then pipes the text to it as events associated with the SPEECH_SYNTH type occur. I have had good performance with the FOSS speech synthesizer "espeak", available at Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2025 11:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] sound plugin missing. I still cannot get sounds. any other way to test it? Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 9:22?AM Andrew P. via groups.io<> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Very interesting. Could you export your YAAC configuration and email it to me privately (not on the mailing list)? I'm curious about the kind of sound files you are using with the sounds plugin, as that seems related to the problem you are having. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of e m via groups.io<> <delivers1234@...<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 3:50 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] sound plugin missing. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 8:41?AM Andrew P. via groups.io<><> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: Sounds like you found a bug that is causing the sounds plugin configuration panel to not load. Please repeat opening the expert-mode configuration dialog, then send me the YAAC.out file in your YAAC log directory. It will contain the error message and stack trace of what is keeping the plugin config file from loading; this will help me figure out how to fix it. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> on behalf of e m via groups.io<><> <delivers1234@...<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 11:23 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [yaac-users] sound plugin missing. Hi. What happened to my soundsplugin? [image.png] Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit |
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Re: sound plugin missing.
I still cannot get sounds. any other way to test it? Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 9:22?AM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote: Very interesting. Could you export your YAAC configuration and email it to me privately (not on the mailing list)? I'm curious about the kind of sound files you are using with the sounds plugin, as that seems related to the problem you are having. |
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next beta build#209 of YAAC, created 2025-Feb-28
next beta build #209 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2025-Feb-28
downloadable from changes and updates include: 1. fix race condition with startup of PBBS plugin for inbound connected-mode AX.25 connections. 2. add support for macro variables generated by plugins which can be referenced in the free-text comment of beacons, status, and auto-answer messages. 3. optimize the startup of the expert-mode Configuration dialog so users won't have to wait so long to see it, and add performance measurement logging to determine the worst contributors to the slow creation of the dialog. 4. add Meta key (Apple Macintosh Command key) to set of allowable modifiers to get the equivalent of a right-click on a single button mouse so right-click menus can be more easily accessed on a Mac. 5. correct the reporting of tilt direction on the line-of-sight view (was reporting up for down and vice-versa). 6. fix IndexOutOfBoundsExceptions when trying to edit private local Objects from the Station/Object list view. 7. handle website configuration errors properly when trying to download plugins (especially HTTP 404 errors). 8. fix NullPointerException from race condition in closing an APRS-IS port. 9. fix JSON parser to properly handle non-null empty arrays/lists. 10. in postal address DB plugin, fix startup NullPointerException if database JDBC driver JAR file hasn't been configured yet. 11. harden the AREDN plugin against syntax errors in JSON files from AREDN nodes, and update the knowledge base of directional AREDN node types. 12. add menu bar to timeslot analysis plugin's statistics table view so the table can be printed and exported as a CSV file. 13. fix RV Telemetry plugin to allow setting macro values, fix deleting constant definitions, allow setting GPIO output pins as the result of telemetry analysis, add support for SN3218 LED driver chip (as used on the Pimoroni Automation Hat), fix scaling errors reading ADC1x15 analog0-to-digital converter chips, allow configurable I2C bus number (to work with different models of Raspberry Pi), and protect algorithm processor from crashing on bad HTTP reads. 14. fix sound file playback in the Sounds plugin, and add Maven unit tests to verify the functionality keeps working. Note this may cause build failures if someone tries to build YAAC using Maven in an environment without a sound card (such as on a cloud virtual machine). |
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Re: sound plugin missing.
开云体育My email is ka2ddo at arrl.net.
Andrew, KA2DDO
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Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2025 1:28:23 PM ok. whats your email?
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit
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Re: sound plugin missing.
ok. whats your email? Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 9:22?AM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote: Very interesting. Could you export your YAAC configuration and email it to me privately (not on the mailing list)? I'm curious about the kind of sound files you are using with the sounds plugin, as that seems related to the problem you are having. |
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Re: sound plugin missing.
Very interesting. Could you export your YAAC configuration and email it to me privately (not on the mailing list)? I'm curious about the kind of sound files you are using with the sounds plugin, as that seems related to the problem you are having.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] sound plugin missing. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 8:41?AM Andrew P. via groups.io<> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Sounds like you found a bug that is causing the sounds plugin configuration panel to not load. Please repeat opening the expert-mode configuration dialog, then send me the YAAC.out file in your YAAC log directory. It will contain the error message and stack trace of what is keeping the plugin config file from loading; this will help me figure out how to fix it. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of e m via groups.io<> <delivers1234@...<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 11:23 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [yaac-users] sound plugin missing. Hi. What happened to my soundsplugin? [image.png] Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit |
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Re: sound plugin missing.
I hope this helps. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 8:41?AM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote: Sounds like you found a bug that is causing the sounds plugin configuration panel to not load. |
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Re: sound plugin missing.
Sounds like you found a bug that is causing the sounds plugin configuration panel to not load.
Please repeat opening the expert-mode configuration dialog, then send me the YAAC.out file in your YAAC log directory. It will contain the error message and stack trace of what is keeping the plugin config file from loading; this will help me figure out how to fix it. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 11:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] sound plugin missing. Hi. What happened to my soundsplugin? [image.png] Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit |
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Re: APRS Group messages
You might want to associate the MESSAGE_TO event type; that will cause the sounds plugin to announce when a message addressed to your group arrives. Of course, that's only meaningful if you are using the sounds plugin. :-)
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 10:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS Group messages Do I need to or should have an event type for the message group? Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 4:32?PM Andrew P. via groups.io<> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: For YAAC to receive from a group, you have to indicate you are a member of the group by listing it on the Message Groups table on the expert-mode Configuration dialog's General tab, and then enabling the group. This allows to leave and rejoin the group without having to delete and re-add it on the table. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of e m via groups.io<> <delivers1234@...<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:10 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [yaac-users] APRS Group messages So I am able to send a group message by use the "To:" at the bottom via wide1,wide 2. Is YAAC capable a receiving a group message directly? or do I have to filter out from the messages. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit |
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Re: APRS Group messages
Do I need to or should?have an event type for the message group? Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 4:32?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote: For YAAC to receive from a group, you have to indicate you are a member of the group by listing it on the Message Groups table on the expert-mode Configuration dialog's General tab, and then enabling the group. This allows to leave and rejoin the group without having to delete and re-add it on the table. |
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
To see how much heap you really need to have for your particular usage of YAAC, you can open the expert-mode Configuration dialog and enable displaying the memory utilization bar on the Preferences tab. The bar itself will appear on the map window's toolbar. you should have at least a 10% reserve. Note that specifying the -Xmx command-line option only sets the upper limit for Java heap size; if the demand is less, the actual amount of allocated heap (still more than the used heap) may be less than the maximum.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Spoonhower via groups.io <jpspoonhower@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] inconsistent map behavior Thanks!. All is working well now. On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:26?PM Andrew P. via groups.io<> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: When you start YAAC from a command line (either directly, in a script, or in a graphical desktop shortcut), you will want to tweak the launching command line a little to look like this: java -Xmx512m -jar C:\Users\john\YAAC\YAAC.jar (I'm assuming your Windows username is "john" and you installed YAAC in the YAAC directory in your home directory.) Note the -Xmx option; that specifies the maximum amount of memory the Java virtual machine is allowed to claim. In this example, it is authorizing 512 megabytes of RAM (hence the "m" after the 512). Hopefully, your system isn't so clogged with other applications that there is that much RAM available for YAAC to use. Let me know if you still have any issues. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of John Spoonhower via groups.io<> <jpspoonhower@...<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 12:28:05 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] inconsistent map behavior Andrew, please see responses below. John On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 12:10?PM Andrew P. via groups.io<> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Looks like an obvious failure due to not enough memory allocated to the Java runtime on the second machine. How much RAM memory does that computer have, and what operating system are you using? Also, what version of the Java runtime are you using? Open a terminal or command window on the system, and at the prompt, type the command 8 GB; windows 10 home 64 bit.java -version java version "1.8.0_441"Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_441-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.441-b07, mixed mode, sharing) Assuming the computer has enough memory available, you may need to raise the Java heap limit with a command-line option to the "java" command used to launch YAAC. If the computer doesn't have enough RAM, it may need an upgrade. :-( PSE tel me how.Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of John Spoonhower via groups.io<> <jpspoonhower@...<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 11:41:57 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] inconsistent map behavior Hi Andrew, thanks for the reply. Both machines are running 1.0beta208. On the first (working) system, the error log shows repeated downloads of the NWS map file, e.g.: Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_155839.tif.gz took 675d+6223r+9680e msec at Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 10:59:13 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 10:59:56 EST 2025 On the other (non-working) machine: I only see the first download and then the listed error: Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_161441.tif.gz took 613d+7230r+8184e msec at Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 11:15:08 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 11:16:46 EST 2025 renderCurrentRaster: 1 files in 247msec @ zoom=1202457.5 1739981792875 renderCurrentMap[#1]: 60997(631215)/2419790 ways(0ur), 18/222335 nodes, 1 signs, 26 files(0 new,4 missing) in 10107msec @ zoom=1202457.5 [28.947521,-82.23135] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space Wed Feb 19 11:36:34 EST 2025: try#0: connection to localhost/127.0.0.1:8000<> lost: Socket closed John, NX2I . ....... John On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:39?AM Andrew P. via groups.io<> <andrewemt@...<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This sounds like there's some kind of networking issue on your second computer. This can happen when the radar image refresh is attempted and fails. An error message should appear in the YAAC.out file in your log files directory (also viewable in the Help->About dialog on the Error Log tab, and in the terminal window where you started YAAC if you used one). Whenever you successfully download a radar image, the log should report the refresh time (when NWS says the image will be out-of-date), so you should be able to predict when YAAC will try to download the image again. What build of YAAC are you using? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of John Spoonhower via groups.io<> <jpspoonhower@...<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:51:03 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [yaac-users] inconsistent map behavior I have the current YAAC version running on different machines. On one ( a RPi 4) NWS raster overlay maps are displayed and refreshed every few minutes. On the other, (an x86 machine), the maps do not refresh. If I delete a previously loaded NWS map, and manually load a new one, the map displays. Subsequent maps are not displayed. If I look at the "raster maps" window, I always find the enable box unchecked. This happens even though "enable" is checked after loading the first map. Have I mis-configured the second machine somehow? 73, NX2I |
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Re: APRS Group messages
For YAAC to receive from a group, you have to indicate you are a member of the group by listing it on the Message Groups table on the expert-mode Configuration dialog's General tab, and then enabling the group. This allows to leave and rejoin the group without having to delete and re-add it on the table.
Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 7:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] APRS Group messages So I am able to send a group message by use the "To:" at the bottom via wide1,wide 2. Is YAAC capable a receiving a group message directly? or do I have to filter out from the messages. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit |
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
Thanks!. All is working well now. On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:26?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
开云体育When you start YAAC from a command line (either directly, in a script, or in a graphical desktop shortcut), you will want to tweak the launching command line a little to look like this:
java -Xmx512m -jar C:\Users\john\YAAC\YAAC.jar
(I'm assuming your Windows username is "john" and you installed YAAC in the YAAC directory in your home directory.)
Note the -Xmx option; that specifies the maximum amount of memory the Java virtual machine is allowed to claim. In this example, it is authorizing 512 megabytes of RAM (hence the "m" after the 512).
Hopefully,? your system isn't so clogged with other applications that there is that much RAM available for YAAC to use.
Let me know if you still have any issues.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Spoonhower via groups.io <jpspoonhower@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 12:28:05 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] inconsistent map behavior Andrew,
please see responses below.
John
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 12:10?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
Andrew, please see responses below. John On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 12:10?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
开云体育Looks like an obvious failure due to not enough memory allocated to the Java runtime on the second machine.?
How much RAM memory does that computer have, and what operating system are you using? Also, what version of the Java runtime are you using? Open a terminal or command window on the system, and at the prompt, type the command
java -version
(Note the space between the "java" command and the "-version" option.)
Assuming the computer has enough memory available, you may need to raise the Java heap limit with a command-line option to the "java" command used to launch YAAC. If the computer doesn't have enough RAM, it may need an upgrade. :-(
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John Spoonhower via groups.io <jpspoonhower@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 11:41:57 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] inconsistent map behavior Hi Andrew,
thanks for the reply. Both machines are running 1.0beta208.
On the first (working) system, the error log shows repeated downloads of the NWS map file, e.g.:
Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_155839.tif.gz took 675d+6223r+9680e msec
at Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 10:59:13 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 10:59:56 EST 2025 On the other (non-working) machine: I only see the first download and then the listed error:
Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_161441.tif.gz took 613d+7230r+8184e msec
at Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 11:15:08 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 11:16:46 EST 2025 renderCurrentRaster: 1 files in 247msec @ zoom=1202457.5 1739981792875 renderCurrentMap[#1]: 60997(631215)/2419790 ways(0ur), 18/222335 nodes, 1 signs, 26 files(0 new,4 missing) in 10107msec @ zoom=1202457.5 [28.947521,-82.23135] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space Wed Feb 19 11:36:34 EST 2025: try#0: connection to localhost/ lost: Socket closed John, NX2I
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John
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:39?AM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
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