Re: Where is the YAAC configuration profile stored?
YAAC uses the Java Preferences library to store its configuration data. On Mac OS X, preferences are stored in the user's Library/Preferences/ directory, in an Apple binary properties file named org.ka2ddo.yaac.plist. All the profiles would be stored in this file. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Pascal Nelson via groups.io <vpnels@...> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 9:20 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Where is the YAAC configuration profile stored? I'm just curious, since I can't seem to find it. Where is the YAAC configuration profile stored? I understand that there is a "nameless" profile, and that we can create other profiles. But where is the base configuration for YAAC stored? Pascal AC7N
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Where is the YAAC configuration profile stored?
I'm just curious, since I can't seem to find it. Where is the YAAC configuration profile stored? I understand that there is a "nameless" profile, and that we can create other profiles. But where is the base configuration for YAAC stored?
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Re: YAAC failing to display menu on OSX Sequoia
Many thanks, Andrew. That was indeed the problem.
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Since I don't usually need the the JDK, I installed the "recommended" JRE from Oracle, which is still 1.8 (Java 8).
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I removed the JRE and installed JDK 23. Now, YAAC works perfectly on the MacBook Air M2 Sequoia 15.1.1.
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Great support.
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Pascal AC7N
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Re: YAAC failing to display menu on OSX Sequoia
Greetings.
I found the problem you are reporting. A fallback for use of Java 8 was not coded correctly. I will fix this in the next build of YAAC. In the meantime, you can work around this by using a newer release of the Java Runtime Environment, such
as Java 11, 17, or 21.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
I am trying to set up YAAC on an Apple M2 MacBook running Sequoia 15.1.1. When I run?
"java -jar YAAC.jar" the YAAC window comes up, but there is no menu to allow me to configure it.
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I get the following error on the terminal during the startup (pertinent section clipped):
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Thu Dec 12 10:06:03 EST 2024: YAAC Macifying main menu bar....
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:62)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45)
? ? ? ? at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:423)
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.YAAC.main(YAAC.java:690)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
? ? ? ? at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.bootstrap.YAACBootstrap.main(YAACBootstrap.java:301)
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.gui.os.GuiOsAdapter.osSpecificInitGui(GuiOsAdapter.java:70)
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.gui.MainGui.<init>(MainGui.java:497)
? ? ? ? ... 10 more
Thu Dec 12 10:06:03 EST 2024: YAAC starting digipeater....
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etc....
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No menu.
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73
Pascal AC7N
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YAAC failing to display menu on OSX Sequoia
I am trying to set up YAAC on an Apple M2 MacBook running Sequoia 15.1.1. When I run?
"java -jar YAAC.jar" the YAAC window comes up, but there is no menu to allow me to configure it.
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I get the following error on the terminal during the startup (pertinent section clipped):
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Thu Dec 12 10:06:03 EST 2024: YAAC Macifying main menu bar....
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:62)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45)
? ? ? ? at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:423)
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.YAAC.main(YAAC.java:690)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
? ? ? ? at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
? ? ? ? at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.bootstrap.YAACBootstrap.main(YAACBootstrap.java:301)
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.gui.os.GuiOsAdapter.osSpecificInitGui(GuiOsAdapter.java:70)
? ? ? ? at org.ka2ddo.yaac.gui.MainGui.<init>(MainGui.java:497)
? ? ? ? ... 10 more
Thu Dec 12 10:06:03 EST 2024: YAAC starting digipeater....
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etc....
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No menu.
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73
Pascal AC7N
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That is because you're selecting downloading digital terrain elevation data from the US Geological Service, not OpenStreetMap data from my website. Go to File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, and make sure your download is centered
where your station is.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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This is a strange one I think.
YAAC is installed but the map does not populate.? At the bottom of the screen there seems to be indication openstreetmap cannot download and earlier I was being asked to login to Earth (something or other).? I do not have an account.? Any idea what is
going on?
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Hi Andrew
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This is a strange one I think.
YAAC is installed but the map does not populate.? At the bottom of the screen there seems to be indication openstreetmap cannot download and earlier I was being asked to login to Earth (something or other).? I do not have an account.? Any idea what is going on?
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My? YAAC version is Oct 16>
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Joe VA3TV
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
1200 b, not 9600 b for the radio. That's it's RX/TX baud rate. I believe the comm port rate can be as high as your setup will allow though 9600 b is a nice rate.
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73 de W3AB/George
Check menu 518 to set the baud rate for the serial port on the head unit (1200/9600).
Match that with YAAC's port.
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via " <[email protected]>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 12:30:39 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
More info, When I create a port and click on test all I get is a blank window. The RTSystems cables are working as I can communicate with the radio when using the RTSystems software. I am at a loss so far.
On Dec 9, 2024, at 09:49, Danny K5CG via <[email protected]> wrote:
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
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From: "T W via " <[email protected]>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
Tried that. No luck unfortunately.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 12:48, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
Check menu 518 to set the baud rate for the serial port on the head unit (1200/9600).Match that with YAAC's port.----- Original Message -----From: "T W via?" <kf6kyd@...>To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 12:30:39 PMSubject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cablesMore info, When I create a port and click on test all I get is a blank window. The RTSystems cables are working as I can communicate with the radio when using the RTSystems software. I am at a loss so far.On Dec 9, 2024, at 09:49, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73?
Danny, K5CG?
HH 550-0609?
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
Check menu 518 to set the baud rate for the serial port on the head unit (1200/9600).
Match that with YAAC's port.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 12:30:39 PM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables More info, When I create a port and click on test all I get is a blank window. The RTSystems cables are working as I can communicate with the radio when using the RTSystems software. I am at a loss so far. On Dec 9, 2024, at 09:49, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
More info, When I create a port and click on test all I get is a blank window. The RTSystems cables are working as I can communicate with the radio when using the RTSystems software. I am at a loss so far.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 09:49, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
The D710 actually has 2 data ports. The one on the base allows for memory programming and the one not the control head connects to the tnc. I’m beginning to think though this might be a permissions issue.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 09:52, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
Yeah, here it is.
/g/yaac-users/topic/88474657#msg1319
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:50:09 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Oh I could be mistaken. YAAC could talk to the D710 if you connect the serial cable to the head unit.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:49:20 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
And, as Danny pointed out, the D710's TNC is in the control head, not the transceiver body. Connecting a serial interface to the transceiver body will not be able to access the control head's TNC.
Also, are you using the correct serial port baud rate?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Right, that's what I said.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
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----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 10:39:36 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
The D710 has a built in tnc.
> On Dec 9, 2024, at 9:52?AM, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
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> ?Yeah, here it is.
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> /g/yaac-users/topic/88474657#msg1319
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> 73
> Danny, K5CG
> HH 550-0609
> SKCC 14257
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:50:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
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> Oh I could be mistaken. YAAC could talk to the D710 if you connect the serial cable to the head unit.
>
> 73
> Danny, K5CG
> HH 550-0609
> SKCC 14257
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:49:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
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> YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
>
> 73
> Danny, K5CG
> HH 550-0609
> SKCC 14257
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
> Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
>
> Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function
all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
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> Cheers
> Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
Right, that's what I said.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
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----- Original Message ----- From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 10:39:36 AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables The D710 has a built in tnc. On Dec 9, 2024, at 9:52?AM, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
?Yeah, here it is.
/g/yaac-users/topic/88474657#msg1319
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:50:09 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Oh I could be mistaken. YAAC could talk to the D710 if you connect the serial cable to the head unit.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:49:20 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
The D710 has a built in tnc.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 9:52?AM, Danny K5CG via groups.io <k5cg@...> wrote:
?Yeah, here it is.
/g/yaac-users/topic/88474657#msg1319
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:50:09 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Oh I could be mistaken. YAAC could talk to the D710 if you connect the serial cable to the head unit.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:49:20 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
----- Original Message -----
From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables
Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:50:09 AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables Oh I could be mistaken. YAAC could talk to the D710 if you connect the serial cable to the head unit. 73 Danny, K5CG HH 550-0609 SKCC 14257 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:49:20 AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio. 73 Danny, K5CG HH 550-0609 SKCC 14257 ----- Original Message ----- From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated. Cheers Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
Oh I could be mistaken. YAAC could talk to the D710 if you connect the serial cable to the head unit.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny K5CG via groups.io" <k5cg@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 9:49:20 AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio. 73 Danny, K5CG HH 550-0609 SKCC 14257 ----- Original Message ----- From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated. Cheers Tom kf6kyd
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Re: Using RTSystems cables
YAAC doesn't connect to a radio. YAAC connects to a TNC (direwolf/soundmodem). The TNC connects to the radio.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
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----- Original Message ----- From: "T W via groups.io" <kf6kyd@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:13:10 PM Subject: [yaac-users] Using RTSystems cables Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated. Cheers Tom kf6kyd
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Hi, I am trying to configure a port through yaac to my Kenwood D710 using an RTsytems cable. No matter what setting I choose I cannot communicate with yaac. The RTsystems software works fine, I am trying to configure a port and when I use the test function all I get is a blank window. Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
Tom kf6kyd
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Re: YAAC and Direwolf interfacing
That's what I did too.
The digirig would provide PTT for you but again, you would end up connecting that to the PTT of the DATA port and you'd be sacrificing the other half of the radio as unusable.
If you use Echolink Sysop mode then the data band will stay dedicated to APRS (I use the right - B side) and you can still use the other side (A side in my case) like a normal radio in the shack, that's the advantage.
73
Danny, K5CG
HH 550-0609
SKCC 14257
From: "Joseph LaFerla" <joe@...> To: "yaac-users" < [email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2024 3:45:08 PM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC and Direwolf interfacing
Hi Danny
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I have been absorbing all the information that you and others have provided and have decided to emulate your situation and forget the digirig (unfortunately because it was expensive hi hi).? I will purchase a USB serial card and the cable from Kenwood.? That should get me going.? Please let me know if I am missing something.? Thanks for the diagrams of the connecting cables but I think I will be better off with the kenwood cable.
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