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Re: Monitoring a single port?
The filters when applied to Station/Object list does seem to give me only the TNC source as I want.
However, when the filters are applied, the Last Rcvd column does not sort correctly. Without the filters applied it does sort correctly. Update, the sorting by time seems to have corrected itself after a few hours! |
Re: To Andrew-Please consider
Stay tuned and I'll see what I can do about getting you some support materials. On Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 3:54?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote: Well, YAAC is already dual-mode APRS and OpenTRAC, so one more wouldn't be a huge stretch. The issue is the API to the radio/modem. |
Re: Monitoring a single port?
That is true. The Heard Stations view doesn't use YAAC's filtering capability.
I will look into fixing this. Also, you might find other views (such as the Station/Object list) that might provide the information you seek that do use the filters. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rik Rasmussen WA4BAN <rikrasmussen@...> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Monitoring a single port? Andrew, I am a new YAAC user. I found the filter to works well as you describe here as far as viewing Raw Packets. However, when I view Heard Stations, the filter doesn't seem to block the APRS-IS traffic. I have to disable the APRS-IS port in order to see only RF stations in the Heard Stations window. Am I missing something? I would like to continue operating as RF>igate mode, but sometimes only want to see RF stations heard. |
Re: Monitoring a single port?
Andrew,
I am a new YAAC user. I found the filter to works well as you describe here as far as viewing Raw Packets. However, when I view Heard Stations, the filter doesn't seem to block the APRS-IS traffic. I have to disable the APRS-IS port in order to see only RF stations in the Heard Stations window. Am I missing something? I would like to continue operating as RF>igate mode, but sometimes only want to see RF stations heard. |
Re: To Andrew-Please consider
Well, YAAC is already dual-mode APRS and OpenTRAC, so one more wouldn't be a huge stretch. The issue is the API to the radio/modem.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] To Andrew-Please consider Andrew please consider being the first APRS/CATS dual mode software. This looks good! I'll help where I can. Ronny K4RJJ |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
The first picture is of my rig - the Argent board is installed, along with their USB adapter.
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The DB9 connector and cable are present - as pictured - just not connected. In the Argent Data sample install - they've removed the db9 connector and cable entirely. They provide the USB-mini to USB-B jumper, that's shown in both pictures, to bring the data out the back of the rig. It's my understanding that the white connector on the side of the Argent Tracker board is for a GPS device. I've requested clarification from Argent ... email #3 today ... On 4/18/24 20:58, Andrew P. wrote:
So where's the Alinco's original DB9 connector and cable? Did you take it out? It should have been connected to the connector on the Argent Tracker board that didn't come with a cable pre-attached to it. |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
So where's the Alinco's original DB9 connector and cable? Did you take it out? It should have been connected to the connector on the Argent Tracker board that didn't come with a cable pre-attached to it.
________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option That picture was my rig. Here's the sample install that Argent Data has on their Web page ... [https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/images/t3-135-installed.JPG] |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
Andrew, the Arget board is connected to the radio board with a 10 pin connector or similar cable. Does this then connect to the serial port on the back of the radio?
Chris -------------------- From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...> Reply-To: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: April 18, 2024 at 8:08 PM EDT Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option But there should have been another connection on the Argent board for the DB9 to connect to. The no-installed-daughter-board use of the internal cable is to bring the audio and PTT connections to the DB9 for connection to an external TNC. To quote the directions from the Argent manual: To install the board, disconnect power to the radio and remove the four screws holding on the bottom cover plate. A multi-colored cable connects the rear connector to the radio’s main board. Remove the cable from the radio board, plug it in to the receptacle on the T3-135 board, and plug the T3-135 board’s cable into the radio board. The supplied hook and loop fastener can be used to secure the T3-135 board to the VCO case. Hope that helps. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option The DB9 connector isn't ... connected ... to anything. The internal connection it uses is being used by the Argent Data board. On 4/18/24 19:57, Andrew P. wrote: > Well, another alternative is to ignore the USB pigtail coming out of the radio and use the DB9 connector with a USB-to-RS232 adapter instead. If you have the relevant hardware, try that and see if it works. > > Andrew, KA2DDO > > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option > > It's in digital mode. > > The radio has the square wave symbol. > > Also, it doesn't play the audio in digital mode, you just hear clicks on the speaker. |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
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But there should have been another connection on the Argent board for the DB9 to connect to. The no-installed-daughter-board use of the internal cable is to bring the audio and PTT connections to the DB9 for connection to an external TNC. To quote the directions from the Argent manual: To install the board, disconnect power to the radio and remove the four screws holding on the bottom cover plate. A multi-colored cable connects the rear connector to the radio’s main board. Remove the cable from the radio board, plug it in to the receptacle on the T3-135 board, and plug the T3-135 board’s cable into the radio board. The supplied hook and loop fastener can be used to secure the T3-135 board to the VCO case. Hope that helps. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option The DB9 connector isn't ... connected ... to anything. The internal connection it uses is being used by the Argent Data board. On 4/18/24 19:57, Andrew P. wrote:Well, another alternative is to ignore the USB pigtail coming out of the radio and use the DB9 connector with a USB-to-RS232 adapter instead. If you have the relevant hardware, try that and see if it works. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option It's in digital mode. The radio has the square wave symbol. Also, it doesn't play the audio in digital mode, you just hear clicks on the speaker. |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
But there should have been another connection on the Argent board for the DB9 to connect to. The no-installed-daughter-board use of the internal cable is to bring the audio and PTT connections to the DB9 for connection to an external TNC. To quote the directions from the Argent manual:
To install the board, disconnect power to the radio and remove the four screws holding on the bottom cover plate. A multi-colored cable connects the rear connector to the radio’s main board. Remove the cable from the radio board, plug it in to the receptacle on the T3-135 board, and plug the T3-135 board’s cable into the radio board. The supplied hook and loop fastener can be used to secure the T3-135 board to the VCO case. Hope that helps. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option The DB9 connector isn't ... connected ... to anything. The internal connection it uses is being used by the Argent Data board. On 4/18/24 19:57, Andrew P. wrote: Well, another alternative is to ignore the USB pigtail coming out of the radio and use the DB9 connector with a USB-to-RS232 adapter instead. If you have the relevant hardware, try that and see if it works. |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
The DB9 connector isn't ... connected ... to anything.
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The internal connection it uses is being used by the Argent Data board. On 4/18/24 19:57, Andrew P. wrote:
Well, another alternative is to ignore the USB pigtail coming out of the radio and use the DB9 connector with a USB-to-RS232 adapter instead. If you have the relevant hardware, try that and see if it works. |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
Well, another alternative is to ignore the USB pigtail coming out of the radio and use the DB9 connector with a USB-to-RS232 adapter instead. If you have the relevant hardware, try that and see if it works.
Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option It's in digital mode. The radio has the square wave symbol. Also, it doesn't play the audio in digital mode, you just hear clicks on the speaker. |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
Here's an interesting bit of information I just found in the Argent documentation:
The T3-135 board is active only when the radio is placed in digital mode, indicated by a square wave icon on the display. When the radio is tuned to a memory channel that has the digital option set, the tracker will power up automatically. The tracker must be powered up before it can be configured Maybe this is your problem: the radio isn't in digital mode. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 6:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option Nothing from dmesg. The only thing new is that plugging in the cable from the radio (into the USB 3.0 port on the inovato Quadra), causes the hub to be re-recognized. But only the hub, and the keyboard and mouse plugged into it, are recognized. Nothing of the Argent Data Tracker device in the Alinco. On 4/18/24 17:36, Tim wrote: A couple of more commands to check out: |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
Nothing from dmesg.
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The only thing new is that plugging in the cable from the radio (into the USB 3.0 port on the inovato Quadra), causes the hub to be re-recognized. But only the hub, and the keyboard and mouse plugged into it, are recognized. Nothing of the Argent Data Tracker device in the Alinco. On 4/18/24 17:36, Tim wrote:
A couple of more commands to check out: |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
No /dev/ttyAMA0 device either? Some USB-to-serial chipsets use that device name instead.
You might want to execute the "lsusb" command so see if anything is actually on the USB bus. It might be an unrecognized device vendor code, or the cable between the radio case jack and the TNC board might not be plugged in correctly (or at all). That is why I recommended you power up the radio, in case the TNC's USB circuitry is powered from the radio instead of the USB cable. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 1:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option I'm using ls -al /dev/ to see what's recognized. Lots of tty entries but no ttyUSB0 or similar. I'm communicating with Argent Data to see what I need to do ... Thanks On 4/18/24 13:26, Andrew P. wrote: You still need to tell YAAC what type of equipment you are connecting (a TNC, a GPS receiver, etc.) first, i.e., the YAAC Port Type. Then YAAC will give you a list of physical connection ports available (such as /dev/ttyUSB0) that support that type of device. There are about a dozen different types of devices and network connections you can make in YAAC, and none of them self-identify what they are to YAAC, so you need to tell YAAC what it is. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...><mailto:qrv@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:42:30 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option I'm used to seeing /dev/ttyUSB0, etc. in drop-down menus for port selection. If I add YAAC as a member of the group owning the 'serial port device' /dev/ttyUSB0 - or whatever it turns out to be, will /dev/ttyUSB0 be automatically added to the drop-down ports menu? Thanks. On 4/18/24 09:55, Andrew P. wrote: That's because USB isn't a type of TNC or remote sensor. You could have your Argent Data Tracker connected through a motherboard COM port (non-USB) if your computer was old enough to have one; the TNC would behave the same regardless of the cable type. What the YAAC port types specify is what is on the other end of the communications cable, such as a Serial_TNC for a Terminal Network Controller connected through a serial port. Similarly, Serial_GPS specifies a GPS receiver connected through a serial port. Note that the Linux user account running YAAC will have to be a member of the group owning the serial port device (such as /dev/ttyUSB0), or YAAC will not have permissions to open the port. Typically, this will be the "dialout" group. Type the "groups" command at a shell prompt to see in which groups your account is a member. You can use the "sudo usermod" command to modify your account's supplemental group membership if needed. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC Can YAAC talk to USB? I looked in File -> Configure -> Expert Mode -> Add Port but none of the drop-down options mention USB. My rig is an ALinco DR-135T MkIII with an internal Argent Data Tracker TNC that's connected via USB. Thanks |
Re: Sound Plugin Stopping
Me too. I've been running the Sounds plugin with extra debugging turned on for 3 straight days, and it's still playing the .wav file for me.
Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Sound Plugin Stopping Restarted YAAC last week to restore sound alerts. Been receiving messages almost daily and APRSThursday messages today, all with sound alert. So far so good. I'm hoping it was just a transient glitch. Michael wa7skg wrote on 4/15/24 9:19 AM: It doesn't seem to matter the number of messages. I sent a bunch of test |
Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
Tim
A couple of more commands to check out:
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lsusb (or lsusb -l) will list all USB devices. You can do the same before/after to see what appears. dmesg will show the log of kernel messages. Most (if not all) USB devices will put a message here when they are inserted. You can remove the device, do dmesg -c to empty the log, insert the device then dmesg to see new messages. Or you can grep the dmesg output to look for clues. I’m not in front of a PC to give more specific commands, but having the command names should help. You can always Google “lsusb tutorial“ or such. Tim AD8JL On Apr 18, 2024, at 5:31?PM, DavidC KD4E via groups.io <qrv@...> wrote: |
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