Hi, Andrew,
I invoked FLDIGI 4.2.00 and, upon start-up of YAAC saw that, on port 7342, the connection was refused. I checked the WIn 11 Firewall and local networks were enabled.
Next, as Administrator I got the command shell and invoked
netstat -ab | more
FLDIGI was listening on port 7362 and 7322.
I got into YAAC and changed the? TCP port for KISS-over-TCP to 7362, saved the config, exited?YAAC, reinvoked?it, and saw that there was no refused connection. However there was no modem listing for the KISS-over-TCP port.
I then changed the KISS-over-TCP port to 7322, saved the config, existed YACC, rebooted Win 11, started FLDIGI then started YAAC. Still no FLDIGI modem list for the KISS-over-TCP port.
What other info do you need to help diagnose this?
Thanks! Craig/KH6CP
I see that I can configure a KISS-over-TCP port pointing to FLDIGI's?localhost port 7342.
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Note that having more than one RF port in YAAC is basically setting up a cross-frequency digipeater. The only thing the HF checkbox does is change the assumed RF baud rate from 1200 baud to 300 baud
for the port bandwidth monitor, and enable one digipeat hop for pathless HF packets to non-HF ports. So you still have to configure which digipeat aliases will be accepted by each port for outbound traffic. For example, continental HF digipeaters specify GATE
as the only digipeat alias for the HF port, so the HF band isn't clogged with WIDE2-2 packets from a channel with 4 times the bandwidth.
Note that not all Fldigi modems support binary KISS packets (especially ones like Olivia and Thor that expect the payload to be printable ASCII streams rather than packets). Use the modem choice menu
in YAAC to ensure you only pick from the subset of Fldigi modems that support 8-bit binary packets.
And, of course, stay in compliance with the outdated FCC rules regarding symbol rate. :-(
And, like Direwolf, Fldigi has to be started in KISS mode before you open the YAAC port to it. And KISS mode disables being able to use any associated Fldigi programs using the ARQ protocol; you might
not be able to use Flrig, for example.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC?
Part of our radio "territory" consists of small islands with extinct volcanoes obstructing
most VHF/UHF traffic. Experiments show that HF NVIS with faster modes (like Thor 56)
would work, at least most of the time.
I see that I can configure a KISS-over-TCP port pointing to FLDIGI's?localhost port
7342.
How do I route the HF "backbone" traffic to my AGWPE port and vice versa?
----
(On the KISS port I see the "Radio of HF bands" check box and will?
enable that and I would think WIDE1-1 would be proper.
On the AWGPE?port at the "remote" site I'd want to continue the WIDE1-1 digipeating.
Any recommendations as to further settings?
Thanks!
Craig/KH6CP
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Part of our radio "territory" consists of small islands with extinct volcanoes obstructing most VHF/UHF traffic. Experiments show that HF NVIS with faster modes (like Thor 56) would work, at least most of the time.
I see that I can configure a KISS-over-TCP port pointing to FLDIGI's?localhost port 7342.
How do I route the HF "backbone" traffic to my AGWPE port and vice versa? ---- (On the KISS port I see the "Radio of HF bands" check box and will? enable that and I would think WIDE1-1 would be proper.
On the AWGPE?port at the "remote" site I'd want to continue the WIDE1-1 digipeating.
Any recommendations as to further settings? Thanks! Craig/KH6CP
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Hi.
I've run ex office UPS's (APC Smart UPS series) on small (<2kVA) Generators without major issues several times in the past, they do though need configuring to accept a "wider" range of tolerable incoming voltage, else they forever switch between OnLine, and OnBattery, but it can be done.
More modern generator sets are usually much better regulated, especially the larger capacity machines, or the "Inverter" types. (But that RF noise issue, unless you go mad with filters...)
The simple way for power holdover while refuelling, is to use a "smart battery charger" after the generator, to "float charge" a battery.? That battery in turn runs everything "critical" that must not suffer a power outage.? (Also lighting!)
Some small generators have the ability to do that "natively" too, that also results in "Very much better" AC output voltage regulation as a bonus!? But read and check the machines user manual to make sure what it can, or can't do.? Though the AC output may be more stable, it's power capability might be reduced..
Overall, with care and research, quite easy to do safely for minimal cost, unless you need serious kVA (no break) power holdover.
Hope something helps for future events.
73.
Dave B.
--
Sent from a MicroSoft free zone:
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On 21 Sep 2023, at 7:12 pm, Carl Makin <carl@...> wrote:
I was trying to use B612, the free airbus cockpit display font, and while the mono version loads fine and works well, the variable version seems to be loading the BOLD variant instead on the menus, which just makes it ugly.
The same happens with most other fonts that have a bold variant (Avenir New, Calibri, DejaVu Sans, Helvetica Neue etc). Ok, worked it out. It’s by design. FontCache.java/FontAttr has ‘wantsBold’ set to true for most of the UI elements. I can live with it. Carl.
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I will attempt to find you on aprs.fi. Good luck
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From: "Michael WA7SKG" <wa7skg@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Sep 22 2023 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bikestats Plugin
Yes, we are using APRS for support of the BikeMS bicycle ride. We will have stations at Race Central, five rest stops, and four SAG vehicles. Race Central is at the Evergreen Air and Space Museum in McMinnville.
This box I'm working on will be hooked up to a projector showing where everybody is at on a big screen at Race Central. This particular setup is receive only. We will be using 144.39. The NCS station will not show up anywhere else, as it is RF receive only. My mobile will be WA7SKG-3. Michael WA7SKG Christopher Rose wrote on 9/22/23 7:55 PM: > Michael, where will you be on Saturday? Using APRS on 144.39? > >
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Re: next beta build#188 of YAAC, created 2023-Sep-22
Upgraded until it won't upgrade any more. Now, the SO list is retaining the changes in the columns, but is not displaying columns added through configure, and they clear after reboot.
The bikestats shows on the About page, but does not show as installed through the Plugin Install page. Trying to install it again shows the same error.
I moved the bikestats.jar file and rebooted. The bikestats no longer shows up in About and the Statistics tab is gone from Configure. I tried to install bikestats again from the Install Plugins window and get the same error. See install picture. Although it says "failed to install", the bikestats.jar file is present, the Statistics tab is back in configure, and the help file is back.
Sumpin' broke somewhere.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/22/23 8:12 PM:
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Upgrade twice. With the broken upgrade table, it won't pick up the fixes to the plugins until you are running YAAC build 188.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2023 11:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next beta build#188 of YAAC, created 2023-Sep-22
I appreciate the effort, but no joy.
I looked at the Install Plugins list and it did not show bikestats as
installed, so I clicked on the Install button and got an error. See picture.
I looked at About and it shows the bikestats twice. After reboot, it
only shows once.
I went into configure and added five columns. The Persist Value boxes
are checked. They all disappear on reboot.
After adding the five new columns, they do not show up in the Stations
and Objects listing. They used to show up before the upgrade.
When editing the filter, any changes made in Station Category or Sender
are reset on reboot. The Monitoring Radius does retain its value on reboot.
Thanks for working on it, but don't rush now. I've got to pack it all up
now for a departure in about 8 hours.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/22/23 6:52 PM:
next beta build#188 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2023-Sep-22
downloadable from
or
changes and updates include:
1. fix Check For Updates table to account for plugin loading changes in
build#187.
2. fix bikestats plugin to properly save new column definitions, and
properly label the help appendix.
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Yes, we are using APRS for support of the BikeMS bicycle ride. We will have stations at Race Central, five rest stops, and four SAG vehicles. Race Central is at the Evergreen Air and Space Museum in McMinnville.
This box I'm working on will be hooked up to a projector showing where everybody is at on a big screen at Race Central. This particular setup is receive only. We will be using 144.39. The NCS station will not show up anywhere else, as it is RF receive only. My mobile will be WA7SKG-3.
Michael WA7SKG
Christopher Rose wrote on 9/22/23 7:55 PM:
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Michael, where will you be on Saturday? Using APRS on 144.39?
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Re: next beta build#188 of YAAC, created 2023-Sep-22
Upgrade twice. With the broken upgrade table, it won't pick up the fixes to the plugins until you are running YAAC build 188. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2023 11:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next beta build#188 of YAAC, created 2023-Sep-22 I appreciate the effort, but no joy. I looked at the Install Plugins list and it did not show bikestats as installed, so I clicked on the Install button and got an error. See picture. I looked at About and it shows the bikestats twice. After reboot, it only shows once. I went into configure and added five columns. The Persist Value boxes are checked. They all disappear on reboot. After adding the five new columns, they do not show up in the Stations and Objects listing. They used to show up before the upgrade. When editing the filter, any changes made in Station Category or Sender are reset on reboot. The Monitoring Radius does retain its value on reboot. Thanks for working on it, but don't rush now. I've got to pack it all up now for a departure in about 8 hours. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 9/22/23 6:52 PM: next beta build#188 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2023-Sep-22
downloadable from
or
changes and updates include:
1. fix Check For Updates table to account for plugin loading changes in
build#187.
2. fix bikestats plugin to properly save new column definitions, and
properly label the help appendix.
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Re: next beta build#188 of YAAC, created 2023-Sep-22
I appreciate the effort, but no joy.
I looked at the Install Plugins list and it did not show bikestats as installed, so I clicked on the Install button and got an error. See picture.
I looked at About and it shows the bikestats twice. After reboot, it only shows once.
I went into configure and added five columns. The Persist Value boxes are checked. They all disappear on reboot.
After adding the five new columns, they do not show up in the Stations and Objects listing. They used to show up before the upgrade.
When editing the filter, any changes made in Station Category or Sender are reset on reboot. The Monitoring Radius does retain its value on reboot.
Thanks for working on it, but don't rush now. I've got to pack it all up now for a departure in about 8 hours.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/22/23 6:52 PM:
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Show quoted text
next beta build#188 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2023-Sep-22
downloadable from
or
changes and updates include:
1. fix Check For Updates table to account for plugin loading changes in
build#187.
2. fix bikestats plugin to properly save new column definitions, and
properly label the help appendix.
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Michael, where will you be on Saturday? Using APRS on 144.39? ----------------------------------------- From: "Michael WA7SKG" To: [email protected]Cc: Sent: Friday September 22 2023 8:45:23PM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bikestats Plugin
Can't use a UPS on generator. Generator power fluctuates too much
so UPS
doesn't accept it as good commercial power, so you only run on the
UPS
battery until it runs down, which is rather quickly. Computer is
a
Quadra (RaspberryPi similar) and don't have a handy battery
infrastructure available for everything.
This is a no budget junkbox package with no time left for big
changes as
it will be deployed Saturday morning.
Michel WA7SKG
Dave_G0WBX via groups.io wrote on 9/22/23 12:14 PM:
> Small UPS, or Laptop w good battery should sort out that.
>
> Dave B
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next beta build#188 of YAAC, created 2023-Sep-22
next beta build#188 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2023-Sep-22
downloadable from
or
changes and updates include:
1. fix Check For Updates table to account for plugin loading changes in
build#187.
2. fix bikestats plugin to properly save new column definitions, and
properly label the help appendix.
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Stand by. I should have the new bikestats posted in about half an hour. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2023 8:45 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bikestats Plugin Can't use a UPS on generator. Generator power fluctuates too much so UPS doesn't accept it as good commercial power, so you only run on the UPS battery until it runs down, which is rather quickly. Computer is a Quadra (RaspberryPi similar) and don't have a handy battery infrastructure available for everything. This is a no budget junkbox package with no time left for big changes as it will be deployed Saturday morning. Michel WA7SKG Dave_G0WBX via groups.io wrote on 9/22/23 12:14 PM: Small UPS, or Laptop w good battery should sort out that.
Dave B
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Can't use a UPS on generator. Generator power fluctuates too much so UPS doesn't accept it as good commercial power, so you only run on the UPS battery until it runs down, which is rather quickly. Computer is a Quadra (RaspberryPi similar) and don't have a handy battery infrastructure available for everything.
This is a no budget junkbox package with no time left for big changes as it will be deployed Saturday morning.
Michel WA7SKG
Dave_G0WBX via groups.io wrote on 9/22/23 12:14 PM:
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Small UPS, or Laptop w good battery should sort out that.
Dave B
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Alas, not if Microsoft Windows decides it's mandatory upgrade time. :-/ So I'm fixing it.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
Small UPS, or Laptop w good battery should sort out that.
Dave B
_._,_._,
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Small UPS, or Laptop w good battery should sort out that.
Dave B
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I found the column persisting bug in the bikestats plugin, and will be releasing a new build of it soon.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
Here's a picture of how I set the columns and another picture of how
they look after restarting YAAC.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/21/23 1:00 PM:
> I will look into this. Table column settings and window sizes and
> positions are supposed to be persisted. There may be an issue with when
> Bikestats adds the columns that causes the column layout to be discarded.
>
> Andrew, KA2DDO
> author of YAAC
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael
> WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2023 3:54:58 PM
>
> It looks like the column size and order does not persist across a
> reboot. So, I get everything set the way I want it, but then when I shut
> it down, carry it to the NCS location and set it up, I have to
> reconfigure all the Station/Object stuff over again, including the
> filters. As the site will be running on generator that will have to be
> shut down and refueled periodically, All those columns and filters will
> need to be reset on each restart. That will be a nuisance, and possibly
> beyond the skillset of the NCS operators.
>
> Oh, well. It was a nice idea at the time.
>
> Michael WA7SKG
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Also, is there a way to change the text colors? From the picture you can see that you can barely read the entries in the first line. Those are from the station using this.
Michael WA7SKG
Michael WA7SKG wrote on 9/21/23 4:02 PM:
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Here's a picture of how I set the columns and another picture of how they look after restarting YAAC.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/21/23 1:00 PM:
I will look into this. Table column settings and window sizes and positions are supposed to be persisted. There may be an issue with when Bikestats adds the columns that causes the column layout to be discarded.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2023 3:54:58 PM
It looks like the column size and order does not persist across a
reboot. So, I get everything set the way I want it, but then when I shut
it down, carry it to the NCS location and set it up, I have to
reconfigure all the Station/Object stuff over again, including the
filters. As the site will be running on generator that will have to be
shut down and refueled periodically, All those columns and filters will
need to be reset on each restart. That will be a nuisance, and possibly
beyond the skillset of the NCS operators.
Oh, well. It was a nice idea at the time.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/20/23 4:43 PM:
Regarding your questions:
1. The Range filter has to be enabled, and all it does is control whether you will be notified if a station or object enters or leaves the range around the filter's center point. This is mostly only useful with the sounds plugin, which can report when a station? or object becomes in-range or out of range, i.e., did a mobile station become close enough to you for you to want to care about it?
2. YAAC does persist column sizing _and_ _order_ until you change the number of columns. So don't size or order them until you finish defining your new columns. Rather than squishing a column down to minimum width, you can drag it to the right to make it? less obvious (or drag the column left to make it more obvious). You do
this by dragging the column headers, same as you do in spreadsheet programs.
3. To add a Mic-E status column, I would have to change the table code. It's doable, but then there's one _more_ column in an already extremely wide table. And the Mic-E information is displayed on the map (both directly as colored circles around the icons,? and as text in the popup window if you click on a station).
4. Loading and saving local Object files allows you to keep a reference copy of a set of Objects you want to plot on a map or share out-of-band with other users. For example, I keep a set of Object definitions I created for the rest stops on the bicycle public service events I work, so the fixed rest stop locations can be
displayed on the YAAC map the same way the mobile SAG vehicles with trackers are displayed.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bikestats Plugin
After playing around with this, I think it will be useful. Some
questions, though.
There are a lot of columns in the Station/Object list we don't really
care about. I see I can resize the column to almost eliminate it, but is
there a way to eliminate it completely? If I restart YAAC or edit the
Station/Object list through the configuration tool, it restores all
columns to their original size and I have to change them all back to how
I want. Any way to make those kinds of changes persistent?
Is there a way to include a MicE column on the Station/Object list?
I see buttons for saving and loading Objects files, but I'm not really
sure how to utilize that.
Michael WA7SKG
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Here's a picture of how I set the columns and another picture of how they look after restarting YAAC.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/21/23 1:00 PM:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I will look into this. Table column settings and window sizes and positions are supposed to be persisted. There may be an issue with when Bikestats adds the columns that causes the column layout to be discarded.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2023 3:54:58 PM
It looks like the column size and order does not persist across a
reboot. So, I get everything set the way I want it, but then when I shut
it down, carry it to the NCS location and set it up, I have to
reconfigure all the Station/Object stuff over again, including the
filters. As the site will be running on generator that will have to be
shut down and refueled periodically, All those columns and filters will
need to be reset on each restart. That will be a nuisance, and possibly
beyond the skillset of the NCS operators.
Oh, well. It was a nice idea at the time.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/20/23 4:43 PM:
Regarding your questions:
1. The Range filter has to be enabled, and all it does is control whether you will be notified if a station or object enters or leaves the range around the filter's center point. This is mostly only useful with the sounds plugin, which can report when a station or object becomes in-range or out of range, i.e., did a mobile station become close enough to you for you to want to care about it?
2. YAAC does persist column sizing _and_ _order_ until you change the number of columns. So don't size or order them until you finish defining your new columns. Rather than squishing a column down to minimum width, you can drag it to the right to make it less obvious (or drag the column left to make it more obvious). You do this by dragging the column headers, same as you do in spreadsheet programs.
3. To add a Mic-E status column, I would have to change the table code. It's doable, but then there's one _more_ column in an already extremely wide table. And the Mic-E information is displayed on the map (both directly as colored circles around the icons, and as text in the popup window if you click on a station).
4. Loading and saving local Object files allows you to keep a reference copy of a set of Objects you want to plot on a map or share out-of-band with other users. For example, I keep a set of Object definitions I created for the rest stops on the bicycle public service events I work, so the fixed rest stop locations can be displayed on the YAAC map the same way the mobile SAG vehicles with trackers are displayed.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bikestats Plugin
After playing around with this, I think it will be useful. Some
questions, though.
There are a lot of columns in the Station/Object list we don't really
care about. I see I can resize the column to almost eliminate it, but is
there a way to eliminate it completely? If I restart YAAC or edit the
Station/Object list through the configuration tool, it restores all
columns to their original size and I have to change them all back to how
I want. Any way to make those kinds of changes persistent?
Is there a way to include a MicE column on the Station/Object list?
I see buttons for saving and loading Objects files, but I'm not really
sure how to utilize that.
Michael WA7SKG
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I will look into this. Table column settings and window sizes and positions are supposed to be persisted. There may be an issue with when Bikestats adds the columns that causes the column layout to be discarded.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
It looks like the column size and order does not persist across a
reboot. So, I get everything set the way I want it, but then when I shut
it down, carry it to the NCS location and set it up, I have to
reconfigure all the Station/Object stuff over again, including the
filters. As the site will be running on generator that will have to be
shut down and refueled periodically, All those columns and filters will
need to be reset on each restart. That will be a nuisance, and possibly
beyond the skillset of the NCS operators.
Oh, well. It was a nice idea at the time.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 9/20/23 4:43 PM:
> Regarding your questions:
>
> 1. The Range filter has to be enabled, and all it does is control whether you will be notified if a station or object enters or leaves the range around the filter's center point. This is mostly only useful with the sounds plugin, which can report when a station
or object becomes in-range or out of range, i.e., did a mobile station become close enough to you for you to want to care about it?
>
> 2. YAAC does persist column sizing _and_ _order_ until you change the number of columns. So don't size or order them until you finish defining your new columns. Rather than squishing a column down to minimum width, you can drag it to the right to make it
less obvious (or drag the column left to make it more obvious). You do this by dragging the column headers, same as you do in spreadsheet programs.
>
> 3. To add a Mic-E status column, I would have to change the table code. It's doable, but then there's one _more_ column in an already extremely wide table. And the Mic-E information is displayed on the map (both directly as colored circles around the icons,
and as text in the popup window if you click on a station).
>
> 4. Loading and saving local Object files allows you to keep a reference copy of a set of Objects you want to plot on a map or share out-of-band with other users. For example, I keep a set of Object definitions I created for the rest stops on the bicycle public
service events I work, so the fixed rest stop locations can be displayed on the YAAC map the same way the mobile SAG vehicles with trackers are displayed.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Andrew, KA2DDO
> author of YAAC
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bikestats Plugin
>
> After playing around with this, I think it will be useful. Some
> questions, though.
>
> There are a lot of columns in the Station/Object list we don't really
> care about. I see I can resize the column to almost eliminate it, but is
> there a way to eliminate it completely? If I restart YAAC or edit the
> Station/Object list through the configuration tool, it restores all
> columns to their original size and I have to change them all back to how
> I want. Any way to make those kinds of changes persistent?
>
> Is there a way to include a MicE column on the Station/Object list?
>
> I see buttons for saving and loading Objects files, but I'm not really
> sure how to utilize that.
>
> Michael WA7SKG
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Michael WA7SKG
