On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 07:19 PM, Greg D wrote:
EMAIL-2
Thanks Greg, the EMAIL-2 worked.. FYI 73 Brad N8YG
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Unless things have changed, you can send (not receive!) email from
an APRS client by sending a message to EMAIL-2, with a message
consisting of the email address, a space, and the message text.?
Keep it short (single packet!), and don't expect a reply (it's one
direction).? But it worked for me last time I tried it.? Came in really
handy some years ago when my wife and I were on a vacation and found
ourselves at a beautiful B&B on the coast in the middle of a
cell phone black hole.? No bars (the RF kind).?? But APRS worked,
and we were able to let our kids know that we arrived safely and
would call them the next day.? I did this from the front panel of my
Kenwood TH-D7AG, which was a thousand button presses.? I expect you
can do the same in seconds from YAAC simply by sending a message and
typing it out.
You can also send an SMS message to a phone with the SMS Gateway.?
Message to SMSGTE, with the text being an "@" followed by the phone
number (including area code, numbers only), a space, and the
message.? This one is bi-directional, though the initial message
must come from the Ham station.
The issue with WLNK-1 is that a few years ago they implemented a
security handshake (password verification exchange) as part of the
connection sequence.? My compliments to whoever came up with the
idea; it's a very creative way to do a reasonably secure handshake
over an unencrypted link.? It can be done by hand (I've done it),
but the timeout is rather short, so it's fussy to do typing from a
keyboard-based client, and essentially impossible from an HT.? If
Andrew's code hasn't been updated do that handshake, it won't work.
Greg? KO6TH
Michael WA7SKG wrote:
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again I stumble. I meant sending WINLINK email via APRS is what I
was told was obsolete. There is a way to send generic email via
APRS. I just do not know the details. I think my son got it
working, I will consult with him.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 3:37 PM:
I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at
least only partly crazy..
Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with
APRS after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.
73
Brad N8YG
??? On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG
??? <wa7skg@...> wrote:
??? My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that
before. I
??? asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told
it was
??? obsolete.
??? Michael WA7SKG
??? n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
???? > so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send
email prompt
??? that
???? > says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then
from YAAC??
???? > _._,_._,_
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Please let us know.? Several folks said it as working last week so this could be a process down or a change in the Winlink system.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:37 PM Michael WA7SKG < wa7skg@...> wrote: Yet again I stumble. I meant sending WINLINK email via APRS is what I
was told was obsolete. There is a way to send generic email via APRS. I
just do not know the details. I think my son got it working, I will
consult with him.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 3:37 PM:
> I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at least only partly crazy..
> Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with APRS
> after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.
>
> 73
> Brad N8YG
>
> <>
>
>? ? ?On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG
>? ? ?<wa7skg@...> wrote:
>? ? ?My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I
>? ? ?asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was
>? ? ?obsolete.
>
>? ? ?Michael WA7SKG
>
>
>? ? ?n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
>? ? ? > so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt
>? ? ?that
>? ? ? > says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
>? ? ? > _._,_._,_
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>
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Yet again I stumble. I meant sending WINLINK email via APRS is what I was told was obsolete. There is a way to send generic email via APRS. I just do not know the details. I think my son got it working, I will consult with him.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 3:37 PM:
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I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at least only partly crazy..
Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with APRS after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.
73
Brad N8YG
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG
<wa7skg@...> wrote:
My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I
asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was
obsolete.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
> so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt
that
> says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
> _._,_._,_
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I just thought I was going crazy.. ok, at least only partly crazy.. Email Obsolete?? Perhaps, but I am just getting my feet wet with APRS after a long sleep from Packet Radio in the 80s.
73 Brad N8YG
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:37 PM, Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> wrote: My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I
asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was obsolete.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
> so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt that
> says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
> _._,_._,_
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My bad. Learn something new every day. Never noticed that before. I asked previously about sending email via APRS and was told it was obsolete.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 10:07 AM:
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so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt that says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
_._,_._,_
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Wlnk-1 worked at least last week.?
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I used it a few days ago following the instructions on the winlink website for APRS link
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No WLNK-1 is dead or at least something has changed.? I can send Winlink fine otherwise but not via YAAC.? Andrew is this what you used for design???
Hi, first post, new to APRS, but was very active with packet back in the 80's.. wow long time ago..?
Anyway, I have an account with winlink email.. and have a login and password.? But it's elusive to me how to email from YAAC?
I keep getting invalid login challenge response..?
I saw? something about the program should mix in the password with? seq number.. but have no idea where I use the password in YAAC.?
probably a no brainer.. but need a bit of help.?
Thanks es 73?
Brad N8YG
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I was never able to get the built-in email screen to work. I was able to use the basic YAAC messaging send/receive feature with WLNK-1 as the destination to use the APRSLink methodology... https://www.winlink.org/APRSLink
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That did it!? I knew it was something I had done.? Thanks!
There is (or was) a crude APRS-to-Winlink gateway once upon a time. I'm not sure if it is still working, and whether or not its interface protocol over APRS has changed since I wrote the APRS-Winlink client screen in YAAC.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC -------- Original message -------- From: Michael WA7SKG < wa7skg@...> Date: 3/17/20 12:00 (GMT-05:00) To: yaac-users@groups.io Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC Email YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or process traffic. Michael WA7SKG n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM: > Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on > the groups messages.. > Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be > able to figure it out without an assist. > I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an > email that says > "invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is > there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program > somewhere? > 73 Brad N8YG
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What little I know is that there once was a way to send to winlink.. without a password.. now I think they want part of your password or something like that interlinked with the sequence number ..whatever... it looks like it's not working.. so good to know. I'll quit trying..:-) Thanks? Brad N8YG
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020, 01:24:56 PM EDT, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
There is (or was) a crude APRS-to-Winlink gateway once upon a time. I'm not sure if it is still working, and whether or not its interface protocol over APRS has changed since I wrote the APRS-Winlink client screen in YAAC.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC
-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 3/17/20 12:00 (GMT-05:00)
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC Email
YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need
to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or
process traffic.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:
> Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on
> the groups messages..
> Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be
> able to figure it out without an assist.
> I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an
> email that says
> "invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is
> there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program
> somewhere?
> 73 Brad N8YG
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Re: Can't turn off Weather view
It looks like you are actually referring to the weather radar overlay, which is a special case within the Raster Map overlay. YAAC knows how to download a radar map from the US National Weather Service and align it automatically (as opposed to the manual alignment for other raster overlays).
To get rid of it, go to View-> Raster Map, and either uncheck (disable) or delete entirely the overlay from the NWS website that is listed in the table of raster maps.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC
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-------- Original message -------- From: Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> Date: 3/17/20 13:21 (GMT-05:00) To: yaac-users@groups.io Subject: [yaac-users] Can't turn off Weather view Hi.? I have clicked off the Weatrher view box in YAAC and restarted the box.? The Weather view will not turn off.? What other options control this view?? Thanks! 
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There is (or was) a crude APRS-to-Winlink gateway once upon a time. I'm not sure if it is still working, and whether or not its interface protocol over APRS has changed since I wrote the APRS-Winlink client screen in YAAC.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC
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From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 3/17/20 12:00 (GMT-05:00)
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC Email
YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need
to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or
process traffic.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:
> Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on
> the groups messages..
> Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be
> able to figure it out without an assist.
> I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an
> email that says
> "invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is
> there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program
> somewhere?
> 73 Brad N8YG
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Can't turn off Weather view
Hi.? I have clicked off the Weatrher view box in YAAC and restarted the box.? The Weather view will not turn off.? What other options control this view?? Thanks!
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so when I use the pull down in YAAC there is a send email prompt that says send email via winlink. This cannot be done then from YAAC??
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YAAC is an APRS client. Winlink is a different protocol. You will need to use a WinLink compatible client to connect to a WinLink node or process traffic.
Michael WA7SKG
n8yg via Groups.Io wrote on 3/17/20 8:06 AM:
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Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on the groups messages..
Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be able to figure it out without an assist.
I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an email that says
"invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program somewhere?
73 Brad N8YG
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Hi All, I thought I sent out this message before, but never saw it on the groups messages..?
Anyway, trying to get the email working for YAAC, but don't seem to be able to figure it out without an assist.?
I have an account with winlink, but I get a response when sending an email that says?
"invalid login challenge response" it looks like the sequence number is there, but not sure if I need to add the password to the YAAC program somewhere??
73 Brad N8YG
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Hi, first post, new to APRS, but was very active with packet back in the 80's.. wow long time ago..?
Anyway, I have an account with winlink email.. and have a login and password.? But it's elusive to me how to email from YAAC?
I keep getting invalid login challenge response..?
I saw? something about the program should mix in the password with? seq number.. but have no idea where I use the password in YAAC.?
probably a no brainer.. but need a bit of help.?
Thanks es 73?
Brad N8YG
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Packets from IS not igating out to RF
I thought I posted on this a week or so ago but I’m struggling to get packets from IS out over RF through my Igate / Digipeater AG7GK-2
I’m running YAAC with two ports defined:
Serial TNC on TNCPI - works great for Digipeating and igating so far
APRS-IS port - filter is defined as m/120 -p/CW
When I transmit from my HT the Igate picks it up fine and gets to my phone. ?The ACKs are sent from the phone but do not Igate out to RF even though I have RF> IS and IS>RF checked in “Transmit Tab”. ?I’ve tried filters to specifically allow traffic by type and by callsign but no luck. ?I”be not had this problem with APRSIS/32 OR aprx clients but they are deficient in multiple ways compared to YAAC.?
Thoughts? ?
Why do the supplemental Igate filters disappear when I save them to the field on the transmit tab?
HT CALLSIGN: AG7GK-7
PHONE CALLSIGN: AG7GK-8
IGATE / DIGIPEATER: AG7GK-2
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Michael WA7SKG
Aaron Jones