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Removing Superwinch Locking Hubs

 

Good Morning,



This group is a wonderful source for advice and support when we novices
run into problems. And I have run into a problem.



The 46CJ2A had Superwinch lockout hubs when I bought it. There is no
way to know when they were installed or how long since they were last
removed. I need to get them off so I can work on the brakes. The hubs
are bolted on with six hardened steel Allen head bolts. As one might
expect, all of the bolts came loose except one. I have used PB Blaster
on it, tapped on it, ruined two L-shaped Allen wrenches, bought a new
T-handle one last night that didn't do the job, gently heated the hub
hoping that differential expansion rates would provide some help.
Bottom line: bolt is still in the hub.



Question: What advice can you offer to get this stubborn bolt out?





Rodney Frey

46 CJ2A

48CJ2A

North Newton, KS 67117


Re: [WT] Willys Day in Calif - Wrightwood CA

Jim Russell
 

Wow,"Prominent WCW member" Thanks Benjamin! I am not sure I am
worthy.

The September 22 Willys Day in Wrightwood, CA has been held for the
several years and it is open to all Willys owners. It is a casual
get together/show and shine in the small mountain town of Wrightwood.

As Benjamin said, for 25 clams per year to join WCW, you get the
inside scoop on these events, 4 club newsletters, neat classified ads
and great articles about Willys.

Here are the event details.

Time: 9:00 am

Location: Center of Withwood on Wighway 2 (East of Los Angeles)

Features:
Wrightwood is a small mountain village high in the San Gabriel
Mountains in San Bernadino County. The village is nestled in the
pines at 6000ft elevation and comprised of one fuel station/minimart,
a few small antique stores, apparel stores and restaurants (from fine
dining to not-so-fast specialty sandwiches).

Places to Stay:
Numerous bed and breakfasts and two motels (use google to find them).


Directions:
From I-5, take the Highway 138 exit to Wrightwood/Lake Silverwood in
the Cajon Pass. Turn West approximately 9 miles to Highway 2. At the
summit, head South 5 miles into Wrightwood.

From Los Angeles, a scenic route is Highway 2 from Glendale to
Wrightwood. This route takes approximately 2-3 hours (depending on
vehicle speed!).

For more details contact:
Larry Boyes, WCW#958 760-249-4727
Carl Smith, WCW #844 760-249-3991

Hope that helps!

Jim Russell
Woodside, CA
'56 PU L6-226
'50 CJ-3A L4-134


--- In WillysTech@..., Benjamin Deasis <bens33ford@...>
wrote:



vintagehewy <vintagehewy@...> wrote: Is it a driving event?
Or a picnic ?
Or display of Willys?
Don't want to show up in a Tux and find out I forgot the hot dogs
[;;)]
Hewy
====================================
Yes, to all of your questions.
Yes, you need to drive to get there.
Yes, there will be food.
Yes, there will be Willys to look at.
I'll check my newsletter & contact you off list. Or maybe Jim
Russell (Prominent WCW member) can provide additional details on or
off list.



Benjamin N. CA.
58 2 WD wagon "under construction"
action=view&id=60
63 4 WD sedan delivery "Parkway"
action=view&id=828
33 Ford Cabriolet

1951 Parkway, 1958 Rambler, 2002 Tbird Roadster
...
95 Harley



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [WT] '58 Willys

Kurt Valentine
 

Welcome to the site, but a bit more information might be helpful like what
type of '58 and where you might be located.

Kurt V
'60 Wagon
Jefferson City, MO

On 9/19/07, kennconn69 <kennconn69@...> wrote:

I came into posession of a '58 last fall.Would like to find some good
part and service websites/shops/enthusiasts who could provide info to
help fixup and restore her.

Thanks
Ken



Re: [WT] '58 Willys

 

kennconn69 <kennconn69@...> wrote: I came into posession of a '58 last fall.Would like to find some good
part and service websites/shops/enthusiasts who could provide info to
help fixup and restore her.
==================================================
Welcome, you have found what you seek. This site is amazing. But it is a little like your computer. It has a wealth of information, you just need to know what specific questions to ask. Here is a tongue in cheek example:
I have a 1958 Willys wagon so I would assume that is what you have. So I'll jump right in and assume you are also from Canada. I would recommend that you search the archives first. It is a very useful place. (THANKS BRIAN)
Of course my assumptions are probably wrong but then "58" was all I had to go on!
:)
Use this link to get started & just type in a keyword or question.



or cut & paste this entire link


Seriously. welcome to the list.


Benjamin N. CA.
58 2 WD wagon "under construction"

63 4 WD sedan delivery "Parkway"

33 Ford Cabriolet

1951 Parkway, 1958 Rambler, 2002 Tbird Roadster

95 Harley


Re: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

 

Have you seen this link for the Electric Cherokee conversion?

Also not sure if it's the same one, but you mentioned a porsche conversion. I
may know the guy who did it. One of the guys in our RACES group did a porsche EV
conversion. He had the same issues that the Cherokee did, lack of range on a charge.

Here's another, electric Rover:

Looks like the company is out of business now, Wilde-EVolutions website is
defunct (think I saved it all). There was even an article on this vehicle in one
of the offroad mags back about 2002.

Also company I used to work for did a hybrid HUMVEE for the Army (PEI
Electronics, now DRS).

Robert

--
Past President, Rocket City Rockcrawlers
Member, Southern Four Wheel Drive Association
Member, United Four Wheel Drive Associations
Vice President, Alabama OHV Association
Team Leader, Rocket City Rockcrawlers CERT team


---------------------- Original Message: ---------------------
From: "Tobias Gogolin" <usertogo@...>
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:17:17 +0000

Thanks for the comments!

Its true the cost will probably make this a longer term perspective for me,
but it seems an idea worth pursuing considering the overwhelming negative
aspects of fossil fuel operation...

I have been debating weather the e-motor should go front or back.
Pro front electric: while recovering energy when braking the front has much
more capacity
Pro rear electric: The rear doesn't have manual hubs so the disconnect in
case of operating electrically will still turn the rear differential and the
drive shaft wasting energy...
Pro front electric: theoretically with an E-motor with input and output
shaft the full power 4WD mode can still be implemented via transfer case!

As the electromotor will likely have to be geared down, in case where the
wheels are tuning the motor this will add extra turning resistance.
Pro front electric: The motor can be manually disconnected
Pro rear electric: Its better to pull resistance than to push it (when
coasting or driving with internal combustion engine)

So you see there are quite a number of issues to be considered... I'm still
undecided...

It appears that motors show up on ebay between $200 and $2000
the controller will likely cost $300-600
Lead acid batteries are relatively inexpensive but heavy... (another $500)
Other types are hard to find and I suspect quite expensive...

The electro motors aren't even that heavy for example


People are converting cars all over the place but its true usually they
throw out the ICE and put in electric...

Has anybody seen that Porsche electric conversion where the guy made a
(hybrid) trailer consisting of a golf rabbit front end where the motor is
converted into a charger?


On 9/18/07, Donny H. Dickey <b.i.x@...> wrote:

A very interesting idea, but I don't think it would work as a
practical matter. maybe as a 'concept' vehicle but not as something
you'd actually drive around. The front axle isn't made to take the
full torque of the engine for starters. Certianly not for everyday
hard-surface driving. You'd probably better off hooking the electric
motor to the front driveshaft for that reason. An interesting knock
off on that idea would be to mount an electic motor in place of a PTO.
Not sure if that can be done on the -20, but should theoretically be
possible on an older Jeep with the -18.
I agree with the observation about weight. Those motors and their
batteries are seriously heavy and very expensive.
As a practical matter there are several more cost effective ways to
increase your gas mileage considerably (and 'hybrid' mileage isn't all
its touted to be even on cars built from the ground up) AND keep your
CJ-7 a 4WD.
If you like the idea for the novelty, go buy an old DJ-5x(postal jeep)
they're 2wd, lighter, and a dime a dozen. Would make a good
engineering test bed and who knows. Might 'discover' something new.
--- In WillysTech@..., "Tobias Gogolin" <usertogo@...> wrote:

Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how
active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor
there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@...

You develop an open source motor controller at







Support WillysTech -- Check out the WT Bookstore


_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ WillysTech _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
WillysTech Parts Board - Sell/Buy Vehicles and Parts

WillysTech Registry - Add your vehicle

WillysTech KnowledgeBase - Search the Archives

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Yahoo! Groups Links




--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@...

You develop an open source motor controller at





'58 Willys

 

I came into posession of a '58 last fall.Would like to find some good
part and service websites/shops/enthusiasts who could provide info to
help fixup and restore her.

Thanks
Ken


Re: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

J Kuechle
 

If you want to do something like this checkout this website:



Its the UC Berkley (I think...) Team that competes in different Hybrid conversion contests around the country. There are a bunch of different colleges that get involved with with these competetions but this one and the one from UW Madison have the best websites.

They have been 4x4 hybrid conversions for the last 8 or so years and they get good mileage, but it looks like it would be really expensive to do in your garage.

Have fun,

JP

--- On Wed 09/19, Wayne Farrand < durant31@... > wrote:
From: Wayne Farrand [mailto: durant31@...]
To: WillysTech@...
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:23:13 -0500
Subject: RE: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]


















Joe:
If you get serious about electric, let me know. I have a big Jet starter
engine and anotehr starter generator and some misc, that I got one time
back when Mother Earth News had plans for a hybrid electric. I still
have the plans, just don't have a plan (or the time). May never get
aound to that project since I have too many gasoline ones.
Wayne in West Des Moines
'58 PU
'31 Durant



-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Joe Villines
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:25 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

I was just wondering where the Palmyra chapter of WT was hiding out...

The Norwalk chapter is proud as hell--finally took the '53 PU for a long
drive last week.

I've considered making my cj-5 an electric beast with a small diesel to
generate power if needed. It's a twisted, rotted shell of a machine now,
so any mods won't void my cultural sensibilities. There are many great
books on electric cars, and one of them actually has a kit price in it.

For now, my truck is a gas burner, my Ford is a veggie/bio runner, and
the '5 is still a pile of crap.

Joe

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Re: [WT] Sliding Window Locks??

Greg Bryant
 

My '63 Wagon (VIN reconciled to show it in '62 production line) has the
same locks as in the photos someone shared except mine are on the bottom
versus top of the window.



________________________________

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Joe Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:37 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Sliding Window Locks??



Kyle,
there were two types of window locks. the early wagons had a lever
under the window. The later wagons 49 ish had a small lock that screws
onto the frame.
Joe in WI
49 wagon
Willys_Wagon@... <mailto:Willys_Wagon%40msn.com> wrote:

Hey All,

Just curious about the 'sliding window locks' I've seen from time to
time for the Wagon. How do these mount? I see a hole below the
window area on my 50' Wagon, but no other place to mount the lock.
How do they mount and did they come on later models of the Wagon, but
not mine?

On another note, I hope to have my 50' Wagon painted in the next
couple of months. Been busy with body work and what not. I'm having
a tough time deciding what to do with the gauges, as the only
original piece I have is the speedo. The dash had been cut to
accommodate standard 2 1/16 gauges by my Dad in the 70's - 80's.
It's fixable with a little work (he only cut the oval out above where
the stock gauges went), but I never had the original gauge set, so
I'd have to get a set and send them off for refurb. I may just go
with the original speedo and get some new gauges for the rest.
Decisions, decisions, ha-ha.

Thanks,
Kyle


Re: [WT] Bouncing messages - moderator listening?

 

Got this message twice - once through the yahoo group address and once
on the one you copied to me. So far so good. Another interesting
oddity - Mighty Mo Ric's messages have been making it through
regardless. Not sure why.

How did mvpimages (can't type the full url or the almighty spam assassin
There were three mvp.... domains on the list I located earlier. The
other two related to you? Can't remember exactly what the rest of the
name was.

list.. Excuse me while I laugh madly. Ok I'm back. Now excuse me again
while I now laugh madly at your ISP for using this method of madness as
a means of "protecting" you from spam. Hold on, I'm not back yet as I
have to laugh once again.
Yeah, it is a joke. The "owners" of the list claim that they don't
block e-mail - they just provide the list to the people running the
mail servers and they decide what to do with it. The spam controls I
have access to on the hosting site are all turned off. But their use
of the blacklists take place prior to it getting to that filter - I
think. We'll see what they come up with in the next few days but I
can't fathom any reasonable reason for rejecting a message just because
it contains a "bad" url IN the message - that's just plain stupid.

OK...I'm off my soapbox. David, let me know if this solution works for
you .
I'll keep an eye on it for the next few days and compare what shows up
in my inbox with what's showing up on Yahoo and let you know. Thanks!

David
'50 $WD Pickup


Re: [WT] Bouncing messages - moderator listening?

WillysTech
 

David:

I have temporarily changed the mvpimages link to a tinyurl.com link to see if this solves your issue.

How did mvpimages (can't type the full url or the almighty spam assassin will kick this message) get on the spam list? Well it seems that anyone can add a domain to the spam list and no one checks to see if the claim is indeed valid. A domain is deemed guilty of sending spam without any proof required from the accuser. It is then up to the accused party to first discover that they are now on the list and then they have to send some proof that they are indeed not a spammer to be removed from the list.. Excuse me while I laugh madly. Ok I'm back. Now excuse me again while I now laugh madly at your ISP for using this method of madness as a means of "protecting" you from spam. Hold on, I'm not back yet as I have to laugh once again.

Most ISP's offer a means of allowing you to "opt-out" out of their "foolproof" means of protecting you from spam. If yours does not...then they should start. How many other legitimate emails have they decided you should not be allowed to view? I guess you will never know!!! =-O

OK...I'm off my soapbox. David, let me know if this solution works for you .

Mark
WillysTech (AKA "Spammers 'R Us")

David Hoelzeman wrote:


Well, I've annoyed Yahoo and my e-mail provider about not receiving the
e-mails - so far no resolution. Except for Yahoo saying they're
bouncing (even though I'm not listed as bouncing.) And the bouncing is
only affecting messages from WillysTech, not FSJ-List, which seems to
imply it's specific to something in WillysTech. The message snippet I
get from Yahoo on the error is:

"Remote host said: 552 5.2.0 66.218.67.49 URL in message blacklisted.
See <>"

Unless I'm reading this wrong it seems to indicate a URL IN the message
is blacklisted, causing the message to bounce at the e-mail server.
Running a check on the various URL domains in the message footer I get
this:

====================================================
mvpimages.net is 69.36.8.10 [ rbl lookup ]
domain registered: unknown [ full whois ]

RBL: skipping uri lookups on ip-based RBLs
URIBL: multi.surbl.org: listed [Blocked, mvpimages.net on
lists [ws], See: <>]
URIBL: multi.uribl.com: not listed [ report ]
====================================================

Guess this is a question for Mark - any idea why mvpimages.net has
gotten itself blacklisted? Any chance that URL could be temporarily
removed from the e-mail footer and see if I start getting the e-mails?

Thanks,

David
'50 $WD Pickup


Re: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

 

Joe:
If you get serious about electric, let me know. I have a big Jet starter
engine and anotehr starter generator and some misc, that I got one time
back when Mother Earth News had plans for a hybrid electric. I still
have the plans, just don't have a plan (or the time). May never get
aound to that project since I have too many gasoline ones.
Wayne in West Des Moines
'58 PU
'31 Durant

-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Joe Villines
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:25 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]



I was just wondering where the Palmyra chapter of WT was hiding out...

The Norwalk chapter is proud as hell--finally took the '53 PU for a long
drive last week.

I've considered making my cj-5 an electric beast with a small diesel to
generate power if needed. It's a twisted, rotted shell of a machine now,
so any mods won't void my cultural sensibilities. There are many great
books on electric cars, and one of them actually has a kit price in it.

For now, my truck is a gas burner, my Ford is a veggie/bio runner, and
the '5 is still a pile of crap.

Joe

---------------------------------
Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.


Re: [WT] Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

 

Thanks for the comments!

Its true the cost will probably make this a longer term perspective for me,
but it seems an idea worth pursuing considering the overwhelming negative
aspects of fossil fuel operation...

I have been debating weather the e-motor should go front or back.
Pro front electric: while recovering energy when braking the front has much
more capacity
Pro rear electric: The rear doesn't have manual hubs so the disconnect in
case of operating electrically will still turn the rear differential and the
drive shaft wasting energy...
Pro front electric: theoretically with an E-motor with input and output
shaft the full power 4WD mode can still be implemented via transfer case!

As the electromotor will likely have to be geared down, in case where the
wheels are tuning the motor this will add extra turning resistance.
Pro front electric: The motor can be manually disconnected
Pro rear electric: Its better to pull resistance than to push it (when
coasting or driving with internal combustion engine)

So you see there are quite a number of issues to be considered... I'm still
undecided...

It appears that motors show up on ebay between $200 and $2000
the controller will likely cost $300-600
Lead acid batteries are relatively inexpensive but heavy... (another $500)
Other types are hard to find and I suspect quite expensive...

The electro motors aren't even that heavy for example


People are converting cars all over the place but its true usually they
throw out the ICE and put in electric...

Has anybody seen that Porsche electric conversion where the guy made a
(hybrid) trailer consisting of a golf rabbit front end where the motor is
converted into a charger?

On 9/18/07, Donny H. Dickey <b.i.x@...> wrote:

A very interesting idea, but I don't think it would work as a
practical matter. maybe as a 'concept' vehicle but not as something
you'd actually drive around. The front axle isn't made to take the
full torque of the engine for starters. Certianly not for everyday
hard-surface driving. You'd probably better off hooking the electric
motor to the front driveshaft for that reason. An interesting knock
off on that idea would be to mount an electic motor in place of a PTO.
Not sure if that can be done on the -20, but should theoretically be
possible on an older Jeep with the -18.
I agree with the observation about weight. Those motors and their
batteries are seriously heavy and very expensive.
As a practical matter there are several more cost effective ways to
increase your gas mileage considerably (and 'hybrid' mileage isn't all
its touted to be even on cars built from the ground up) AND keep your
CJ-7 a 4WD.
If you like the idea for the novelty, go buy an old DJ-5x(postal jeep)
they're 2wd, lighter, and a dime a dozen. Would make a good
engineering test bed and who knows. Might 'discover' something new.
--- In WillysTech@..., "Tobias Gogolin" <usertogo@...> wrote:

Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how
active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor
there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@...

You develop an open source motor controller at







Support WillysTech -- Check out the WT Bookstore


_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ WillysTech _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
WillysTech Parts Board - Sell/Buy Vehicles and Parts

WillysTech Registry - Add your vehicle

WillysTech KnowledgeBase - Search the Archives

_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Yahoo! Groups Links



--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@...

You develop an open source motor controller at


Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

Joe Villines
 

I was just wondering where the Palmyra chapter of WT was hiding out...

The Norwalk chapter is proud as hell--finally took the '53 PU for a long drive last week.

I've considered making my cj-5 an electric beast with a small diesel to generate power if needed. It's a twisted, rotted shell of a machine now, so any mods won't void my cultural sensibilities. There are many great books on electric cars, and one of them actually has a kit price in it.

For now, my truck is a gas burner, my Ford is a veggie/bio runner, and the '5 is still a pile of crap.

Joe


---------------------------------
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Re: [WT] Sliding Window Locks??

 

Kyle,
there were two types of window locks. the early wagons had a lever
under the window. The later wagons 49 ish had a small lock that screws
onto the frame.
Joe in WI
49 wagon
Willys_Wagon@... wrote:

Hey All,

Just curious about the 'sliding window locks' I've seen from time to
time for the Wagon. How do these mount? I see a hole below the
window area on my 50' Wagon, but no other place to mount the lock.
How do they mount and did they come on later models of the Wagon, but
not mine?

On another note, I hope to have my 50' Wagon painted in the next
couple of months. Been busy with body work and what not. I'm having
a tough time deciding what to do with the gauges, as the only
original piece I have is the speedo. The dash had been cut to
accommodate standard 2 1/16 gauges by my Dad in the 70's - 80's.
It's fixable with a little work (he only cut the oval out above where
the stock gauges went), but I never had the original gauge set, so
I'd have to get a set and send them off for refurb. I may just go
with the original speedo and get some new gauges for the rest.
Decisions, decisions, ha-ha.

Thanks,
Kyle


Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

eugenethemagicaljeep
 

Haven't tried it. Expect you could make it work if you tried hard
enough, but the money it would cost would buy an awful lot of gas.
Nice idea, but doubt it's worth it. Not to mention offending the
Willys gods. Nice to hear from you, Landen.

James P. Sartain, Jr.
Chattanooga, Tennessee
1953 CJ3B

--- In WillysTech@..., "Tobias Gogolin" <usertogo@...>
wrote:

Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how
active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor
there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@...

You develop an open source motor controller at





Re: Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

Donny H. Dickey
 

A very interesting idea, but I don't think it would work as a
practical matter. maybe as a 'concept' vehicle but not as something
you'd actually drive around. The front axle isn't made to take the
full torque of the engine for starters. Certianly not for everyday
hard-surface driving. You'd probably better off hooking the electric
motor to the front driveshaft for that reason. An interesting knock
off on that idea would be to mount an electic motor in place of a PTO.
Not sure if that can be done on the -20, but should theoretically be
possible on an older Jeep with the -18.
I agree with the observation about weight. Those motors and their
batteries are seriously heavy and very expensive.
As a practical matter there are several more cost effective ways to
increase your gas mileage considerably (and 'hybrid' mileage isn't all
its touted to be even on cars built from the ground up) AND keep your
CJ-7 a 4WD.
If you like the idea for the novelty, go buy an old DJ-5x(postal jeep)
they're 2wd, lighter, and a dime a dozen. Would make a good
engineering test bed and who knows. Might 'discover' something new.
--- In WillysTech@..., "Tobias Gogolin" <usertogo@...> wrote:

Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how
active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor
there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
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You develop an open source motor controller at





Re: List messages, was Throttle Linkages

 

Try the digest setting instead of the individual e-mails. I use it
and it works fine. Easier than having to go to Yahoo.
I find digests more annoying than Yahoo's site so I don't consider
that an option. And it might not be any better since the digests are
e-mailed. Right now it looks like the problem lies with
mvpimages.net being on a black list that the e-mail server is using.
Until Mark chimes in it's not likely to change for the better.

David
'50 4WD Pickup


Re: Interesting listing on EBay

eugenethemagicaljeep
 

I had something turn-key in mind. Old story I read said that (at the
time) you could buy a VW on the lot for about $3000. Buy it over the
parts counter and it would cost $12,000 and you would still have to
put it together. Actually, I've always wondered why the more
extensive modifiers don't use this route. All fresh parts, no rust,
and nothing to throw away. Best of all, it leaves the original jeeps
for us restorers. The Mitsubishi in the ad is still a good looking
jeep. I think you could get used to the wrong side drive. The postal
employees don't seem to have a problem. Does anybody know if
Mitsubishi is still making these? Seems like I saw something
somewhere to indicate they did. Wonder whose arm you would have to
twist to get them to consider importing them here? Of course, that's
probably road-blocked by Chrysler. The license is undoubtedly for
Japanese production only.

James P. Sartain, Jr.
Chattanooga, Tennessee

--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

Actually FlatFenders are still available. However you need to buy
all the
pieces. Omix-ADA supplies most if not all EXCEPT the grill. I have
heard
even the frames are available. Of course the cost would be
outrageous.
Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR


Re: List messages, was Throttle Linkages

eugenethemagicaljeep
 

Try the digest setting instead of the individual e-mails. I use it
and it works fine. Easier than having to go to Yahoo.

James P. Sartain, Jr.

PS Sorry about the double posting on one of my messages. Don't know
how I managed that.

--- In WillysTech@..., "David" <mathman@...> wrote:

Linkages changed over the years, I'm not sure what was used in
1953.
The 1950-51 models had:






David
'50 $WD Pickup

PS About ready to deep-six WillysTech - it's annoying to have to go
to the YahooGroups page to get the messages and I haven't figured
out
why I'm not receiving the individual e-mails. It's specific to
this
group - the messages from FSJ-List are coming through just fine...


Re: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

 

Good to hear from you Landen, It's been a while.



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

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** Variables Won't ****
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From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of The MAd Scots Farmer
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:20 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]



The Willys gods frown in disapproval, For defiling a Jeep that's
not a Willys, and too new for the group.

Landen Schooler
Palmyra, Iowa

Subject: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

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