Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
I usually have many projects which could be seen as belonging to one category, as of meters.
To start a new project in a category (in the category folder), I simply copy/past the project folder which is closest to the new one and give it a new name, like meter_v4.
Yes, the names of files in all folders of a category are exactly the same. I mean in every project folder of a category the files names are duplicated, like meter.pro, meter.sch, meter.brd, meter.cmp... etc. Only the name of their project folder needs to be unique.
For instance, I am not privileged to download the new versions of Kicad since long ago (please don't ask why). Fortunately, I still have?Kicad BZR2356 which is much better than having no Kicad at all. Although it is a very old version, it has many practical functions besides being very friendly. Many thanks from me to its developers.
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Step and repeat… spell check!
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On May 21, 2023, at 11:09 AM, icabodeeb@... wrote:
? I am still using Kicad 3, I build many small pcb’s that are small (less than 1 square inch) that have no components just two holes. I panelize them the hard way, by placing each on the grid, since I either cut them out by punching or have the shop rout to the OD line around each part. I don’t want to use V score or break apart since I need a vary clean edge. ?Is there a spell and repeat command in a newer version of Kicad? I used to work in a pcb shop in the 1970’s and did panelization on a light table and grid! Thanks, Greg? On May 21, 2023, at 5:06 AM, John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:
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I found out how to do it. Open
the Figure2.sch file and use CTRL-A to Select all, then Copy.
Open the blank .sch file in Figure3.pro and Paste.
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On 2023-05-21 12:23, John Woodgate
wrote:
I have to make two schematics
that are the same except for component values. I have made
one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it
to a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch,
changing its filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the
Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there
a way to do what I want?
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Rayleigh, Essex UK
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understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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I am still using Kicad 3, I build many small pcb’s that are small (less than 1 square inch) that have no components just two holes. I panelize them the hard way, by placing each on the grid, since I either cut them out by punching or have the shop rout to the OD line around each part. I don’t want to use V score or break apart since I need a vary clean edge. ?Is there a spell and repeat command in a newer version of Kicad? I used to work in a pcb shop in the 1970’s and did panelization on a light table and grid! Thanks, Greg?
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On May 21, 2023, at 5:06 AM, John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:
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I found out how to do it. Open
the Figure2.sch file and use CTRL-A to Select all, then Copy.
Open the blank .sch file in Figure3.pro and Paste.
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John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
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On 2023-05-21 12:23, John Woodgate
wrote:
I have to make two schematics
that are the same except for component values. I have made
one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it
to a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch,
changing its filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the
Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there
a way to do what I want?
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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
Thanks, Steve. I think I did
what you advise, but it didn't work, so I probably didn't. I
am using version 6.0.11, with the .kicad_xxx extensions, but I
forgot to put them in my original post.
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On 2023-05-21 15:29, Steven A. Falco
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I would
create the Figure3 project using KiCad, which will create a
Figure3.sch file.? Then, close KiCad, copy your edited file in
place of the one KiCad created, and start KiCad again.
Be sure to check that you edited the schematic to put Figure3 in
place of the older schematic name.
By the way, KiCad is now using a .kicad_sch, .kicad_pro,
.kicad_pcb, etc. file extension.? What version are you using?
????Steve
On 5/21/23 07:23 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
I have to make two schematics that are the
same except for component values. I have made one, in
Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it to a new
Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch, changing its
filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the Figure3.pro folder,
but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there a way to do what I want?
--?
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Rayleigh, Essex UK
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understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
I would create the Figure3 project using KiCad, which will create a Figure3.sch file. Then, close KiCad, copy your edited file in place of the one KiCad created, and start KiCad again.
Be sure to check that you edited the schematic to put Figure3 in place of the older schematic name.
By the way, KiCad is now using a .kicad_sch, .kicad_pro, .kicad_pcb, etc. file extension. What version are you using?
Steve
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On 5/21/23 07:23 AM, John Woodgate wrote: I have to make two schematics that are the same except for component values. I have made one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it to a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch, changing its filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there a way to do what I want?
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www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
It has the added benefit that if you already have a layout and
you need to modify it, you can keep it.
On 2023-05-21 8:10 a.m., John Woodgate
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Thank you very much. Cloning
is a simple solution that copy-paste.
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On 2023-05-21 13:06, brian wrote:
Open Figure2.pro and save as Figure3.pro. This clones the
entire project under a new name.
You can also open a blank schematic and copy and past the old
one in.
On 2023-05-21 7:23 a.m., John
Woodgate wrote:
I have to make two
schematics that are the same except for component
values. I have made one, in Figure2.pro, called
Figure2.sch. I want to copy it to a new Figure3.pro. I
tried making a copy of Figure2.sch, changing its
filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the Figure3.pro
folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there a way to
do what I want?
--
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I
understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
Thank you very much. Cloning is
a simple solution that copy-paste.
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John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-05-21 13:06, brian wrote:
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Open Figure2.pro and save as Figure3.pro. This clones the
entire project under a new name.
You can also open a blank schematic and copy and past the old
one in.
On 2023-05-21 7:23 a.m., John
Woodgate wrote:
I have to make two
schematics that are the same except for component values.
I have made one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I
want to copy it to a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a
copy of Figure2.sch, changing its filename to Figure3.sch
and adding it to the Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen'
by the .pro. Is there a way to do what I want?
--
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I
understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
Open Figure2.pro and save as Figure3.pro. This clones the entire
project under a new name.
You can also open a blank schematic and copy and past the old one
in.
On 2023-05-21 7:23 a.m., John Woodgate
wrote:
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I have to make two schematics
that are the same except for component values. I have made
one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it
to a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch,
changing its filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the
Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there
a way to do what I want?
--
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I
understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Re: Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
I found out how to do it. Open
the Figure2.sch file and use CTRL-A to Select all, then Copy.
Open the blank .sch file in Figure3.pro and Paste.
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Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-05-21 12:23, John Woodgate
wrote:
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I have to make two schematics
that are the same except for component values. I have made
one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it
to a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch,
changing its filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the
Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there
a way to do what I want?
--
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I
understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Copying an .SCH file to a new .PRO
I have to make two schematics
that are the same except for component values. I have made
one, in Figure2.pro, called Figure2.sch. I want to copy it to
a new Figure3.pro. I tried making a copy of Figure2.sch,
changing its filename to Figure3.sch and adding it to the
Figure3.pro folder, but it not 'seen' by the .pro. Is there a
way to do what I want?
--
======================================================================================
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget.
I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
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Re: schematic program crashes every time on new win 10 install of 7.02. PCB is ok.
Well, found some comments about schematic not loading and as a result tried setting display to fallback. Worked fine.
GeorgeC
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schematic program crashes every time on new win 10 install of 7.02. PCB is ok.
As in topic, I did a fresh install of 7.02 on a win10 fresh install. I can import my old board designs fine. Schematic crashes every time. CPU load goes way high, need to kill with task manager, red "X" doesn't work, get a "not responding", the "wait" circle stays on screen.? Anyone have any idea what I need to look for that is making kicad unhappy?
GeorgeC
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Re: Updating KiCad 7.0.0 to KiCad 7.0.2
Have you tried the Windows
magnifier? Windows key with + on the numerical keypad. Cancel
with Windows key with Escape.
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On 2023-05-18 06:15, Rick Collins
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I've used KiCad before, but it was a few years ago and I never got
that familiar with it.? I have a new project, so I'm looking for a
fresh start.
I thought I should update to the latest revision, which seems to
be 7.0.2, running under Windows 10.? I guess I'm used to software
that knows how to check the rev number and update itself.? But it
appears KiCad doesn't do this?? Or am I simply not finding the
button to tell it to check for updates?? So I need to download the
7.0.2 revision and install it over 7.0.0?
Also, my vision has taken a turn for the worse since I last used
the tool.? Like many Windows programs, they aren't very good at
letting you specify the size of various text.? I don't expect the
schematic or layout to be a problem because you can zoom in on
what you want to see.? But the text in dialog boxes and menus is
very hard for me to read.? I don't see any settings to help with
this.? Any suggestions?? I've already zoomed using the Windows
controls as much as practical.? I'd prefer not to have to muck
with that further.
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Updating KiCad 7.0.0 to KiCad 7.0.2
I've used KiCad before, but it was a few years ago and I never got that familiar with it.? I have a new project, so I'm looking for a fresh start.
I thought I should update to the latest revision, which seems to be 7.0.2, running under Windows 10.? I guess I'm used to software that knows how to check the rev number and update itself.? But it appears KiCad doesn't do this?? Or am I simply not finding the button to tell it to check for updates?? So I need to download the 7.0.2 revision and install it over 7.0.0?
Also, my vision has taken a turn for the worse since I last used the tool.? Like many Windows programs, they aren't very good at letting you specify the size of various text.? I don't expect the schematic or layout to be a problem because you can zoom in on what you want to see.? But the text in dialog boxes and menus is very hard for me to read.? I don't see any settings to help with this.? Any suggestions?? I've already zoomed using the Windows controls as much as practical.? I'd prefer not to have to muck with that further.
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Announcing a change to Fedora Copr repositories
The following pertains to KiCad availability on Fedora Linux. Please note that none of what follows affects the official builds hosted by Fedora in any way. Everything below pertains only to the Copr repositories hosted by the KiCad team itself.
Previously, there was only one Copr repository for KiCad [1]. It contained both nightly builds of the development branch of KiCad and released builds of the stable branch of KiCad.
That arrangement turned out to be too limiting, because one might want to enable the repo to get nightly development builds, but might not want to get released builds from it. Additionally, the team wanted to make testing builds of the stable branch available, and adding a third thing to the repository would compound the problem.
Thus, the stable builds have been split off into a separate repository [2].
*IMPORTANT:* If you were previously getting your stable builds from [1], you *must* switch to [2], because no further stable builds will be added to [1]. To enable the new repository, simply issue the following command:
dnf copr enable @kicad/kicad-stable
The new testing builds of the stable branch are available in [3] and can be enabled by the following command:
dnf copr enable @kicad/kicad-testing
A few things to be aware of:
The builds in [2] and [3] share a namespace. If both repositories are enabled at the same time, they will effectively be combined; the build you get will always be the newest one available in either of the two repositories. In other words, if you enable both [2] and [3], a newer stable build will replace an older testing build, and a newer testing build will replace an older stable build.
The nightly development builds in [1] are completely independent of [2] and [3]. They live in a separate namespace, meaning that you can have both a nightly development build and a stable (or testing) build installed at the same time.
Steve
[1]
[2]
[3]
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Re: Capture a Spice schematic?
On 16/05/2023 10:18, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks for the advice, Tony. If I
try it and get a problem, I can just abandon and copy from a
print of the .ASC manually into KiCad.
Caveat emptor. Just saying... This is a workflow I've used for some
years now, and I never use schematic converters.
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Re: Capture a Spice schematic?
Thanks for the advice, Tony. If
I try it and get a problem, I can just abandon and copy from a
print of the .ASC manually into KiCad.
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I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
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On 2023-05-16 09:13, Tony Casey wrote:
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On 16/05/2023 09:47, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks. I can't wait that long.
Maybe I can get 7.99.
Just bear in mind that the development branch is sometimes
unstable and often has bugs. The other issue that's bitten me, is
that it is not usually back-compatible with the stable branch,
i.e. if you encounter a problem and want to go back to the stable
branch, you can't. That may not be an issue with 7 and 7.99, but
it has been in the past.
I haven't tried converting LTspice schematics to KiCAD, but my
experience with other converters - even those in paid-for tools,
is that it doesn't often save any time because the conversion is
rarely complete, sometimes still requires a lot of cleaning up. At
the outset, you have make sure you have all symbols on both sides
and that they are compatible. Remember, even for basic things like
transistors, the pinouts are often not the same, e.g. in SPICE,
transistors are C, B, E, regardless of the physical pin numbers.
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Tony
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Re: Capture a Spice schematic?
On 16/05/2023 09:47, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks. I can't wait that long.
Maybe I can get 7.99.
Just bear in mind that the development branch is sometimes unstable
and often has bugs. The other issue that's bitten me, is that it is
not usually back-compatible with the stable branch, i.e. if you
encounter a problem and want to go back to the stable branch, you
can't. That may not be an issue with 7 and 7.99, but it has been in
the past.
I haven't tried converting LTspice schematics to KiCAD, but my
experience with other converters - even those in paid-for tools, is
that it doesn't often save any time because the conversion is rarely
complete, sometimes still requires a lot of cleaning up. At the
outset, you have make sure you have all symbols on both sides and
that they are compatible. Remember, even for basic things like
transistors, the pinouts are often not the same, e.g. in SPICE,
transistors are C, B, E, regardless of the physical pin numbers.
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Regards,
Tony
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Re: Capture a Spice schematic?
Thanks. I can't wait that long.
Maybe I can get 7.99.
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John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
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On 2023-05-16 00:16, Jon Evans wrote:
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KiCad is currently on an annual release schedule;
8.0 should be out in January 2024.
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at
7:10?PM John Woodgate < jmw@...>
wrote:
Thanks, Jon. If it is
at 7.99, can 8.0 be far away? Should I wait?
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Rayleigh, Essex UK
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On 2023-05-15 23:58, Jon Evans wrote:
LTSpice schematic import support has been added in
the nightly builds (7.99) and will be released in
KiCad 8.0.
Unfortunately, there is no way I know of to import
an LTSpice schematic in 7.0 or older versions of KiCad
On Mon, May 15, 2023
at 5:48?PM John Woodgate < jmw@...>
wrote:
Thanks, Tony,
but I think you misunderstood. I want to
convert an LTspice schematic (in .ASC or any
other format) to a KiCad schematic. I could
print it and re-create it in KiCad, but I was
hoping to find a conversion.
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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do,
and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-05-15 21:56, Tony Casey wrote:
On 15/05/2023 21:51, John
Woodgate wrote:
Symbols and PCBs can be
captured from bitmaps, so it looks as though
schematics, which are much simpler, could be
captured, but there is no direct way to do
that in KiCad 6. I wonder if there is an
indirect way, or some sort of work-around.
I think you're out of luck, John. There are
scripts to create symbols, but I suspect they are
not useful for the kind of (analogue) stuff you
want to use.
Perhaps if you post a list of what you're looking
looking for, you find they exist already. Whether
they are to your taste, is another matter. But
honestly, if you've created symbols in LTspice,
it's? hardly more onerous to do it in KiCAD, and
they'll be prettier.
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Regards,
Tony
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Re: Capture a Spice schematic?
KiCad is currently on an annual release schedule; 8.0 should be out in January 2024.
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 7:10?PM John Woodgate < jmw@...> wrote:
Thanks, Jon. If it is at 7.99,
can 8.0 be far away? Should I wait?
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John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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I see, and I remember.
I do, and I understand.
Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-05-15 23:58, Jon Evans wrote:
LTSpice schematic import support has been added in the
nightly builds (7.99) and will be released in KiCad 8.0.
Unfortunately, there is no way I know of to import an
LTSpice schematic in 7.0 or older versions of KiCad
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at
5:48?PM John Woodgate < jmw@...>
wrote:
Thanks, Tony, but I
think you misunderstood. I want to convert an LTspice
schematic (in .ASC or any other format) to a KiCad
schematic. I could print it and re-create it in KiCad,
but I was hoping to find a conversion.
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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I
understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-05-15 21:56, Tony Casey wrote:
On 15/05/2023 21:51, John Woodgate
wrote:
Symbols
and PCBs can be captured from bitmaps, so it looks
as though schematics, which are much simpler, could
be captured, but there is no direct way to do that
in KiCad 6. I wonder if there is an indirect way, or
some sort of work-around.
I think you're out of luck, John. There are scripts to
create symbols, but I suspect they are not useful for the
kind of (analogue) stuff you want to use.
Perhaps if you post a list of what you're looking looking
for, you find they exist already. Whether they are to your
taste, is another matter. But honestly, if you've created
symbols in LTspice, it's? hardly more onerous to do it in
KiCAD, and they'll be prettier.
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Regards,
Tony
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