Cwt,

First I'd suggest you stick with 4.12, there are issues in 4.10 that are
likely to bite you sometime. Next, make sure you can select if you use the
PowerPax and select to disconnect the grain of wheat bulb. Now I think you
are saying that only the LokSound and Broadway Limited are not working, but
other decoders are working fine. Last I'd check the voltage of the power to
the PowerPax. Unless it is a 18 volt module, I've heard people have issues
with them.

Here are two more items to check:
1. Open Edit->Preferences->Roster->Programmer.
2. Make sure that these are unchecked:
'Allow caching when writing index CVs for read or write operations'
'When possible, confirm CV writes by following them with a read'
3. While we are in the Preferences, check the 'Defaults' to be on LocoNet.

Are you trying to read/write a simple CV instead of more advanced things
like addresses? I ask that as a lead to the next question: Have you turned
off the 'verbal feedback' option? The absolute first thing I try with one of
these decoders is turning off the verbal feedback. I do that because the
decoder tends to go dead while it is talking and on anything beyond a single
read/write command, it will miss the 2nd or other commands. Since these
decoders use Indexed mode, many of the operations require sequences of
multiple CV operations to change one value.

Let's see if this discovers anything meaningful.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

I am using version 4.10 and have tried 4.12 JMRI on windows 10. I also am using a RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-USB version 3 on com port 3, a Digitrax DCS 200 and a program booster (PowerPax) to the program track (I also have a grain of wheat bulb on the program track). I am getting an error that says no response from loco. This occurs on the programing track and the mainline. I have all other functions like turning power on to the track and programing of any digitrax decoders and reading them. Any help with my problem would be grateful. I think the problem is something in the DCS 200. (Some CV setting I think).

Thanks Steve
Yes I did that and all are well now,

regards
Manos SV1IW

Hi Manos
You saved them: tools->file->save->save configurations only to file.
Then to load: Panels->Open Panels
Steve G.

Thanks again Ken, got them all sorted out, so far. If I load the tables from panel menu (had them saved with a different name) all return as expected. The reason I didn't do this before is that haven't made a panel yet as I was trying to figure out if will be possible to take advantage of the free pins in DCC++ for a couple of sensors and turnouts.
RTFM always helps out, hi!

Regards
Manos SV1IW

John,

What you are seeing is one of two things. First it could be the command
station. When it does a power on to the track, it sends special commands
(what you see) to ask all devices on the layout to report their status. The
other is when JMRI starts up, it too issues the sequence to ask all devices
to report their status. This is how JMRI learns the current status of
turnouts and sensors and updates the tables. Otherwise, until a turnout
moved, or a sensor changed, you would see 'Unknown' as the status.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

JMRI is querying for the status of devices connecting to the LocoNet. But for some reason, perhaps because layout power is off, the command station is rejecting the requests (that’s the “Switch request failed!” message). JMRI then retries it, as it has no way to know whether the cause has cleared up or not.

For more info:

Bob

On Aug 7, 2018, at 7:35 AM, John Griffin <johng.sst@...> wrote:

If I have JMRI running on my computer and then plug it into my Digitrax command station this comes across the loconet monitor screen (just a sample of the full trace)

Interrogate LocoNet Turnouts/Sensors with bits a/c/b of 1/0/1; addresses..
41-48, 105-112, 169-176, 233-240, 297-304, 361-368, 425-432, 489-496,
553-560, 617-624, 681-688, 745-752, 809-816, 873-880, 937-944, 1001-1008,
1065-1072, 1129-1136, 1193-1200, 1257-1264, 1321-1328, 1385-1392, 1449-1456, 1513-1520,
1577-1584, 1641-1648, 1705-1712, 1769-1776, 1833-1840, 1897-1904, 1961-1968, 2025-2032.
LONG_ACK: Switch request Failed!
Interrogate LocoNet Turnouts/Sensors with bits a/c/b of 1/0/1; addresses...
41-48, 105-112, 169-176, 233-240, 297-304, 361-368, 425-432, 489-496,
553-560, 617-624, 681-688, 745-752, 809-816, 873-880, 937-944, 1001-1008,
1065-1072, 1129-1136, 1193-1200, 1257-1264, 1321-1328, 1385-1392, 1449-1456, 1513-1520,
1577-1584, 1641-1648, 1705-1712, 1769-1776, 1833-1840, 1897-1904, 1961-1968, 2025-2032.
LONG_ACK: Switch request Failed!
Interrogate LocoNet Turnouts/Sensors with bits a/c/b of 1/0/1; addresses...
41-48, 105-112, 169-176, 233-240, 297-304, 361-368, 425-432, 489-496,
553-560, 617-624, 681-688, 745-752, 809-816, 873-880, 937-944, 1001-1008,
1065-1072, 1129-1136, 1193-1200, 1257-1264, 1321-1328, 1385-1392, 1449-1456, 1513-1520,
1577-1584, 1641-1648, 1705-1712, 1769-1776, 1833-1840, 1897-1904, 1961-1968, 2025-2032.
LONG_ACK: Switch request Failed!
Interrogate LocoNet Turnouts/Sensors with bits a/c/b of 1/0/1; addresses...
41-48, 105-112, 169-176, 233-240, 297-304, 361-368, 425-432, 489-496,
553-560, 617-624, 681-688, 745-752, 809-816, 873-880, 937-944, 1001-1008,
1065-1072, 1129-1136, 1193-1200, 1257-1264, 1321-1328, 1385-1392, 1449-1456, 1513-1520,
1577-1584, 1641-1648, 1705-1712, 1769-1776, 1833-1840, 1897-1904, 1961-1968, 2025-2032.
LONG_ACK: Switch request Failed!
Interrogate LocoNet Turnouts/Sensors with bits a/c/b of 1/0/1; addresses..
41-48, 105-112, 169-176, 233-240, 297-304, 361-368, 425-432, 489-496,
553-560, 617-624, 681-688, 745-752, 809-816, 873-880, 937-944, 1001-1008,
1065-1072, 1129-1136, 1193-1200, 1257-1264, 1321-1328, 1385-1392, 1449-1456, 1513-1520,
1577-1584, 1641-1648, 1705-1712, 1769-1776, 1833-1840, 1897-1904, 1961-1968, 2025-2032.


This goes on for about a minute and swamps loconet. When done everything is ok. If I plug the computer into the command station and then start JMR this trace doesn't occur.

Developers, what's going on here? This isn't causing problems because it eventually stops. I'm just curious.

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John Griffin
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Hi Paul, ?? I mentioned in an earlier message that I hadn't been able to recover a largely working layout from a number of changes and updates etc., most of which were relatively minor, however it did include making a separate JK accessory bus and all solid state PC.
During this time we had a lightening strike which destroyed the router; given your comments and seeing that XpressNet Traffic Monitor shows a lot of "Normal Operations Resumed after timeout" message I think there is a possibility that the adapter was damaged by the lightening strike.?
I assume that we do not have a way of testing it ??
The replacement PC is unlikely to be the cause as it was not installed at that time.? Most things I've been through in fine detail so there isn't much else other than the LZV100!
Best regards,
Alan

Hi Dave

All these items you have come up with were caused I think by me following the suggestion in the Check menu as mentioned previously. I think I will have a look through my backup files and find the one that was created after I installed 4.12 and compare it with what you have produced now. I could perhaps have saved you a lot of effort if I had thought to try that before but I was only reminded of the existence of the backups when I was in my profile folder to store the first corrected file you posted.

As I said before, I really do appreciate your effort here

Thanks

Fraser

Option Reset previous Aspect does not affect the result.

When I switch the turnouts from the Turnout Table, there is no delays.

07:05:05.726: [packet: 52 1A 88 C0]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 105(Base Address 26,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 On.
07:05:05.735: [42 1A 29 71]? Feedback Response: Turnout with Feedback Turnout: 105 State: Thrown Left; Turnout: 106 State: Thrown Right
07:05:05.836: [packet: 52 1A 80 C8]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 105(Base Address 26,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:05.866: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:05.968: [packet: 52 1A 80 C8]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 105(Base Address 26,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:06.001: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:06.102: [packet: 52 1A 80 C8]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 105(Base Address 26,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:06.135: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:06.206: [packet: 52 1A 8A C2]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 106(Base Address 26,Sub Address 1) Turn Output 0 On.
07:05:06.393: [42 1A 25 7D]? Feedback Response: Turnout with Feedback Turnout: 105 State: Thrown Left; Turnout: 106 State: Thrown Left
07:05:06.494: [packet: 52 1A 82 CA]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 106(Base Address 26,Sub Address 1) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:06.525: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:06.625: [packet: 52 1A 82 CA]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 106(Base Address 26,Sub Address 1) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:06.659: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:06.660: [packet: 52 1A 8C C4]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 107(Base Address 26,Sub Address 2) Turn Output 0 On.
07:05:06.685: [42 1A 39 61]? Feedback Response: Turnout with Feedback Turnout: 107 State: Thrown Left; Turnout: 108 State: Thrown Right
07:05:06.786: [packet: 52 1A 82 CA]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 106(Base Address 26,Sub Address 1) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:06.817: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:06.918: [packet: 52 1A 84 CC]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 107(Base Address 26,Sub Address 2) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:07.124: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:07.125: [packet: 52 1A 8E C6]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 108(Base Address 26,Sub Address 3) Turn Output 0 On.
07:05:07.143: [42 1A 35 6D]? Feedback Response: Turnout with Feedback Turnout: 107 State: Thrown Left; Turnout: 108 State: Thrown Left
07:05:07.244: [packet: 52 1A 84 CC]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 107(Base Address 26,Sub Address 2) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:07.273: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:07.374: [packet: 52 1A 84 CC]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 107(Base Address 26,Sub Address 2) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:07.408: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:07.509: [packet: 52 1A 86 CE]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 108(Base Address 26,Sub Address 3) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:07.543: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:07.638: [packet: 52 1B 88 C1]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 109(Base Address 27,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 On.
07:05:07.795: [42 1B 25 7C]? Feedback Response: Turnout with Feedback Turnout: 109 State: Thrown Left; Turnout: 110 State: Thrown Left
07:05:07.897: [packet: 52 1A 86 CE]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 108(Base Address 26,Sub Address 3) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:07.918: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:08.019: [packet: 52 1A 86 CE]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 108(Base Address 26,Sub Address 3) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:08.053: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:08.154: [packet: 52 1B 80 C9]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 109(Base Address 27,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:08.187: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:08.289: [packet: 52 1B 80 C9]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 109(Base Address 27,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:08.525: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout
07:05:08.626: [packet: 52 1B 80 C9]? Accessory Decoder Operations Request: Turnout Address 109(Base Address 27,Sub Address 0) Turn Output 0 Off.
07:05:08.660: [01 04 05]? Command Successfully Sent/Normal Operations Resumed after timeout

Manos,

Ok, here is a few quick clues. First if you do a save in the tables, it
creates a file that is same as if you did Panels->Save Panel, but the tables
only saves the table items. I always use the panels one, most of the time I
end up adding a few graphic things (display panels) and they would not be
saved via the Tables->Save Table.

Next you load either one via the Panels->Open Panel. Also in the
Edit->Preferences->Startup, you have the option of entering an item to load
the file there too. That makes it automatic while JMRI is starting. Here you
add an 'Action' of 'Open File...', then select the file name.

Last is if you make changes, I suggest saving with a different name. Just in
case the old file works better than what you changed. That gives you a
chance to try again. And if you changed the file name, then you have to go
back to the Startup and click on the file name in the name list. That will
give you the option to pick a different file.

Anytime you make any changes in the Preferences, you will have to click the
'Save' to keep those changes.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

Hi Ken, I did save the parameters but could not find a way to reload from the same menu (tools->tables->turnouts). Reloading was my first thought but I guess this happens from the startup of the program. I am quite new on JMRI but I think now I understand where to look at to resolve the matter.
Thanks again....
Manos SV1IW

Thank you for so much careful testing! Much appreciated.

Let me know if you find any untranslated pieces, please.

Bob

On Aug 6, 2018, at 10:35 AM, alain c via Groups.Io <acarasso_fr@...> wrote:

Hi Bob

I downloaded and tested built #2618 and it looks fine. Here are a few test I've made

Using DP and PP with preferences already set to English
1) Lauching Panel pro using the Profile selector, then selecting my RR, the main menu and all sub menus I've opened are in English so it looks Fine :)

2) Lauching Decoder Pro which starts directly with my profile (no profile selection), it also works fine with menu and sub menus in English.

Modifying the local langage
3) I then switched the local langage to French, restarted Decoder Pro, and Menu and Sub menus were in French as expected

4) I finally reverted to US English, restarted Decoder Pro, and it was in US English as expected.

So AFAIK, it looks fine to me.

--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Manos,

After you name the turnouts, did you save the panel file? Then you'd have to
set the 'Startup' to load that file. That should make the user names hang
around.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org

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