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Locked Re: BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading

 

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On 9/11/2019 8:03 PM, Tim Lux wrote:
Hi all,
I've done an archive search on BLI Paragon 2 and 3 decoder programming, see lots of issues but (possibly I missed them) no firm conclusions.? I have read and saved files for a number of sound decoders - Loksound Select micro, Soundtraxx etc, but these BLIs have me frustrated.? It seems I can write to them OK, but reading what's there in the first place is a challenge.? I'm doing read full sheet on the CV pane followed by multiple read changes on sheet to clear the red tabs, but after about 40 "read changes" tries on a Paragon 2 loco it went haywire.? I only rescued it by downloading individual CV values from the BLI technical reference and the operators manual supplied with the loco, then did a write full sheet (also on the CV pane) successfully.? Probably didn't get exact values for some CVs, which is what I'm trying to do in the first place.? My info:
Digitrax system on N scale layout (DCS100, DT402D throttle), use JMRI 4.14 just for programming on isolated track using PR3 (12 V DC 0.5 amp) and a PTB-100 booster (15 V DC 1 amp) with about 4 foot guessing 18 gauge leads soldered to the programming track.? From reading archives, I'm wondering if I need to bump up power supply to the PR3, just buy a new PR4 or some other interface, if the problem is with my leads, etc.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.? Thanks

Tim Lux
I only have experience with the BLI Paragon 2 decoder in the N-Scale PRR M1a/b locomotives.? I could never get a completed reading using my PR3 with JMRI on a test track.? I even upped the voltage on the power supply for the PR3 to 18Vdc.? That got the hit rate up to about 80% but still never 100%.? I finally switched to a SPROG 3 for my programing and then had no problems doing a Read All Sheets and having it succeed the first time.? I would have thought the PTB-100 would give you the same success rate.? Probably a SPROG 2 woujld work also but the store was out of stock when I was looking and I didn't want to wait.
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Locked Re: BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading

 

Now I'm really out of ideas...turned off MaAfee real-time scanning, firewall, automatic updates and scheduled scans.? Went to Windows Defender (Everything points to McAfee on it), made sure Windows Defender Antivirus periodic scanning was off, and the only other thing I saw was Secure Boot (no option to turn that off), which says it protects against malware on startup, which is not what I'm trying to do.? Still wouldn't load, stopped in the same place...

Tim


Locked Re: BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading

 

Reading more posts, looks like I haven't turned off enough anti-virus stuff.? I've only got McAfee on this computer, any idea what else to turn off other than real-time scanning?? Even though Windows Defender says it's overwritten by McAfee, it came up with an alert (which I bypassed easily) before I got the McAfee block the first time.

Tim


Locked Re: BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading

 

Hi Dave,
I have been reading CVs EXACTLY as you said, as I've seen you post these instructions earlier.
I tried a couple times to download 4.17.4, and got caught up in the dreaded antivirus trap.? This machine is a windows 10, and I figured out how to bypass Windows Defender and also temporarily disable my McAfee antivirus real-time scanning, so the file downloaded and the installation proceeded until I got an error on the setup screen:

Error opening file for writing:
C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe

When I clicked Abort (didn't want to screw up with a partial install), the following showed up:

Installation Aborted
Setup was not completed successfully
Can't write C:\Program Files (x86)|JMRI
Setting x64 registry view...
Setting x86 registry view...
Output folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI
Extract: jmri.jar... 100%
Extract: COPYING
Extract: jmri.conf
Can't write: C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\LaunchJMRI.exe

Any idea where I go from here? I checked java and I'm up to date (version 8 update 221).

Thanks again,

Tim


Locked Re: CATS Designer XML does not parse when CATS is started - Gets Error that on statement 2 DOCUMENT is not found.

 

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I managed to get a console log with the error reported. The log is attached. Am I missing the style sheet?

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Perry Sugerman

Downers Grove, IL ?

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Locked Re: LokSound v4 Decoder Sound Refuses to work

Peter Ross
 

John, sound has nothing much to do with CVs.

If your upload fails, the decoder's sound archive will be corrupted and probably be unplayable. You need to keep trying with your upload.

Fails are most often due to to poor contact so if you're relying on wheels on track first make sure these are scrupulously clean. If the uploads still fail you may need to look at making a direct connection, ie, a wired one.

Your comment about the sound files pane is more worrying because it displays the PROJECT not what's in the decoder.

If it is blank the PROJECT is corrupted, so get a new download then check the sound files pane again. The sound files have got to be there for a successful upload.

Peter


Locked Re: Unable to load jmri 4.17.4

 

I'd have to ask the following questions:

1. Did you copy the one download to all the computers or did you use
multiple downloads?
2. If you ask the AV to scan the file before trying to install, does that
say it is clean?
3. Check the file size (in the properties of the file) to make sure they
match.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Digikeijs, Lenz, & Panel Sensors

 

Looks like I may have finally stumbled on a solution to my problem.
If I connect as Digitrax / using Loconet over TCP and rename the sensors as Loconet LS513, LS514, etc. instead of Xpressnet XS513, etc. it all seems to work just dandy.

Mike


Locked Re: JMRI on Pi 4B with 2 monitors

 

Kevin:

Only as a test to help with questions here in another thread several days ago...

Yes it works, you need the Raspbian to be updated through the apt-get update/upgrade process.

I did not try a modelboard (track plan) spread across the monitors but pane could be slid across the two HDMI 1920X1080 displays.

Jim Albanowski


Locked Re: BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading

 

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Tim,

On 12 Sep 2019, at 11:03 AM, Tim Lux <timlux33@...> wrote:

It seems I can write to them OK, but reading what's there in the first place is a challenge.? I'm doing read full sheet on the CV pane followed by multiple read changes on sheet to clear the red tabs, but after about 40 "read changes" tries on a Paragon 2 loco it went haywire.? I only rescued it by downloading individual CV values from the BLI technical reference and the operators manual supplied with the loco, then did a write full sheet (also on the CV pane) successfully.? Probably didn't get exact values for some CVs, which is what I'm trying to do in the first place.? My info:
Digitrax system on N scale layout (DCS100, DT402D throttle), use JMRI 4.14 just for programming on isolated track using PR3 (12 V DC 0.5 amp) and a PTB-100 booster (15 V DC 1 amp) with about 4 foot guessing 18 gauge leads soldered to the programming track.

Please update to JMRI 4.16 (at least), preferably 4.17.4 (as it It fixes a significant issue in 4.16). A lot of water under the bridge since 4.14.

I think you have done so, but check that you have followed the recommended procedure below exactly. (In particular, sort by status descending and do your retries on the CVs pane, not other panes/tabs.)

If you find the same CVs keep appearing in red at the top of the "sorted by status descending " list, we need to know what they are as they may be CVs not supported by your particular model variant (we need to know the exact model as well). We can then change the definition files to exclude them if they are inapplicable.

Dave in Australia


Reading Decoder CVs

Because of a known (but as yet unresolved) race condition with certain decoder settings variables in JMRI code:

1) Use "Read Full Sheet" on the CVs pane instead of "Read All Sheets". It is less likely to cause errors when reading a decoder with lots of CVs.
Once finished, some may be missed (displayed in red). Use "Read Changes on Sheet" as many times as needed until no red items remain.
(Hint: Click on the Status column in the CVs pane until you see a down arrow. All the Red items will then be at the top.)

2) After you make changes on a programming sheet, don't use Write/Read changes on that programming sheet. Instead, switch to the CVs pane and use Write/Read changes on (the CVs) sheet. The result is the same but it will never trigger the race condition.

You may also see a number of messages in the JMRI System Log like this:
"ERROR - Variable=xxxxxx; Busy goes false with state IDLE"

Ignore these as they don't indicate a real error, we'll fix the problem in a later JMRI release.


Locked BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading

 

Hi all,
I've done an archive search on BLI Paragon 2 and 3 decoder programming, see lots of issues but (possibly I missed them) no firm conclusions.? I have read and saved files for a number of sound decoders - Loksound Select micro, Soundtraxx etc, but these BLIs have me frustrated.? It seems I can write to them OK, but reading what's there in the first place is a challenge.? I'm doing read full sheet on the CV pane followed by multiple read changes on sheet to clear the red tabs, but after about 40 "read changes" tries on a Paragon 2 loco it went haywire.? I only rescued it by downloading individual CV values from the BLI technical reference and the operators manual supplied with the loco, then did a write full sheet (also on the CV pane) successfully.? Probably didn't get exact values for some CVs, which is what I'm trying to do in the first place.? My info:
Digitrax system on N scale layout (DCS100, DT402D throttle), use JMRI 4.14 just for programming on isolated track using PR3 (12 V DC 0.5 amp) and a PTB-100 booster (15 V DC 1 amp) with about 4 foot guessing 18 gauge leads soldered to the programming track.? From reading archives, I'm wondering if I need to bump up power supply to the PR3, just buy a new PR4 or some other interface, if the problem is with my leads, etc.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.? Thanks

Tim Lux


Locked Digikeijs, Lenz, & Panel Sensors

 

Trying new Digikeijs DR5000 Command Center with a Lenz-based DCC system on Windows 10.
All Lenz feedback sensors which feed into Lenz LR101 encoders to communicate with PC.
Successfully connected to JMRI by selecting on JMRI: "XpressNet using Lenz LI-USB Ethernet.."
I am unable to use a USB connection to Lenz because it keeps interfering with my CTI signal network.

My primary issue so far is that none of my feedback sensors display as active on my CTC panel done in Panel Editor.
The XpressNet monitor shows that the sensor information is coming across to JMRI.??
DR5000 Command App also shows sensor info is being sent.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem, and if so, how were you able to remedy it?
Mike Carr


Locked Re: Unable to load jmri 4.17.4

 

My experience with this one is:

I use IE to view the release note so I can save it to the folder as "archive (single file)" -- unfortunately neither of the other browsers I have has that option.? Since I already have the note open there I go ahead and download from IE and click the just-do-it-anyway option when IE complains.? This in the past has never given any problem subsequently.? This time when I tried to run the installer AVG blocked it, which has never happened before.? Even after telling AVG to create an exception, though, it refused to let the installer run.? I deleted that file and did a second downlad attempt with the same results.? I then copied the download link and pasted it into Xtreme Download Manager and it came through without a hitch and ran without a peep from AVG.

Rick


Locked CATS Designer XML does not parse when CATS is started - Gets Error that on statement 2 DOCUMENT is not found.

 

?I found on <DOCUMENT ... on line 2 of the XML file. Some place early in the learning curve, I got CATS to display some of my work. But I have a pilot test coming up and started to create something I would really like to use. Just to be sure it is not me, I created a nil dispatcher's panel. That is, I created a new panel and saved it under a test name but did not do anything to panel. The XML file from that exercise fails to parse.

I have loaded the XML file into Notepad++ and Xcode on my Mac and it seems to parse ok as far as the syntax highlighters are concerned, DOCUMENT is the first actual ?XML tag after the initial XML line. Its companion is at the end of the file.

JMRI 4.14 and CATS download appropriate for that release 0 was current in the early spring. Running CATS and JMRI on Windows 10.

Anybody out there with an idea about how to proceed?

Thanks,

Perry Sugerman
Downers Grove, IL


Locked JMRI on Pi 4B with 2 monitors

 

Ive been running panelpro on pi for some time, initially headless, but more recently via a monitor. I¡¯ve just found a second HDMI monitor, and note that if I upgrade my raspberry pi from 3B to 4B there are two HDMI sockets. Has anyone any experience of using JMRI on pi across 2 screens?


Locked Re: Unable to load jmri 4.17.4

 

Thanks Tom, What's puzzling is that it is installed and works fine on my second PC? but I can't load it onthe other! Avast keeps putting it in their security vault; maybe it will work tomorrow!
Mike.?
ps .you'll love York, 300 miles north of me. I'm 25m north of Portsmouth.??

On Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 19:49:32 BST, Tom Wilson <thomasthetrainengine@...> wrote:


Mile,?
For some reason, it seems the anti virus programs and particularly with Windows 10 seems to be way more aggressive in blocking things than they were before.

I have never been to UK. Have a friend from York living here now. Would love to go there sometime.

Tom Wilson

Colorado Springs, CO


Locked Re: LokSound v4 Decoder Sound Refuses to work

 

Thanks Tom and Tom :>)

I've figured it out (at least the 'not able to write the sound file'). Apparently?the?LokProgrammer is EXTREMELY sensitive to less than totally clean wiring contacts. I finally bypassed a rotary switch I had to select programming sources and directly?wired the programmer output to the programming track with newly stripped wire. It worked!!?

There are still some things I need to figure out but I also think these are due to a built in keep alive. Also, your suggestions cleared up a few things I was fuzzy about so I thank you again. On to bigger things (figuring out functions)!!

John?

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 1:07 PM thomasmclae <thomas_applink@...> wrote:
Did you download a sound file from the ESU web site for Alco 251 and load sounds?
Some decoders fresh from dealers have bad default sound until you load using lokprogrammer.

Do this:
Download the sound file from ESU. (Make sure V4 not V5) for Alco 251.
Open that file with Lokprogrammer.
Set address, function changes, etc.
Do Write Sound (may take 30-40 minutes) Be sure to check Make Default before write.
Should now have proper sound.

Thomas
DeSoto, TX



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Locked Re: Operations files

 

Peter, Thanks for the info, all done.
Brian


Locked Re: LokSound v4 Decoder Sound Refuses to work

 

Did you download a sound file from the ESU web site for Alco 251 and load sounds?
Some decoders fresh from dealers have bad default sound until you load using lokprogrammer.

Do this:
Download the sound file from ESU. (Make sure V4 not V5) for Alco 251.
Open that file with Lokprogrammer.
Set address, function changes, etc.
Do Write Sound (may take 30-40 minutes) Be sure to check Make Default before write.
Should now have proper sound.

Thomas
DeSoto, TX


Locked Re: LokSound v4 Decoder Sound Refuses to work

 

John,?
What version of LokProgrammer software are you using?
Also, what is the 'standard error' ?

If the LokProgrammer did not complete the write of the sound data, it will not work.?
The sound part is different from the cv part. The cvs give you control over the locomotive and can be changed and massaged with either LokProgrammer or JMRI. But JMRI cannot touch the sound part at all, nor can it read or write the sound files. Those are proprietary to LokSound.

Did you try a firmware upgrade to the decoder? Sometimes forcing a firmware upgrade (even if it is the latest already), will 'unstick' the decoder and allow you to write the sound file.?

Make sure you have chosen a v4 sound file. If you have chosen a Select file, it will not load. Or if your decoder is really a Select, a v4 file will not load into the select.

Some sound projects use Function 1 as the toggle on or off for the sound. Primarily European, but I have a heisler steam project that is set up that way.

Hope all that helps.

There are others who are far more knowledgeable who can help you further, but perhaps some of what I have answered will get you going.

Tom Wilson

Colorado Springs, CO

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 12:28 PM John Griffin <johng.sst@...> wrote:
I have a v4 decoder where the sound will not work. When I received it, sound functioned. I'm trying to change to another sound file (ALCO 12 cyl. 251C). I first tried writing with my loksound programmer. It refused to finish the write (gave the standard error) and I tried it many times, read works fine. DCC motion, forward and reverse, is fine, but no lights. I did a reset of the decoder making sure the defaults checkbox was checked. Tried again, no joy. I was able to read the decoder with no problems. During the read the engine moved forward and headlight worked.

I then generated a CV file for JMRI, changed over to JMRI, read the file in and then wrote the entire CV sheet with no problems. Still no sound. DCC motion, forward and reverse, is fine, but no lights. I did try F8 to get the sound going but nothing happened. I restarted LokProgrammer and read the decoder again with no problems but the sound tab showed no sound files in the lower right corner (I'm confused about that as I don't know what that means).

I am new to the programmer but not to JMRI and I'm trying to learn the programmer to support our club. Help? Ideas??