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Locked Re: Help to Automate my railroad.

 

George,

What do you mean by "4 blocks separated”?

The unexpected blocks in the Block table is a known issue which I am currently investigating.

If you upload your panel xml file to the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn folder, I can review it and make recommendations for the next steps.


Dave Sand

On Aug 21, 2018, at 2:24 PM, george.pendergraft <gmpender@...> wrote:

I have my layout built physically and in Layout Editor. I have 4 blocks separated in the layout. I am running a Digitrax Loconet system through RR-Cirkits. I am using Microsoft Vista on my remote (no internet computer)
I have a Turnout table for all my turnouts and they are switched from a remote panel plus the computer.
I have a Block table with many automatic block names set that do not make sense, and I am not sure which one is which or where it is.
I have been reading the help manual and every time I start reading I have to have some other device or setup done to get my trains to run around the track. I am sure it is not that hard, or is it?
I read where I have to have Reporters
I read where I have to have Sensors among other things.
I do NOT read how to set up a train to get it running under what I have, or how to set up the reporter and other things to get MY train working.
It is a pretty large layout but not that big. 3 (4x8) boards. I am using a Zepher 50 to run the trains. All is DCC.
I am only getting more confused as I read the manual. It seems that it used to be a lot simpler.
Please I hope someone can help just to simplify the process.
George
Locked Re: Help to Automate my railroad.

 

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Just a few comments
If you have 3. 4x8 board layout and only 4 blocks your not going to have many trains running. ?Your blocks should be train length. ?On my 8x8 layout i have over 40 blocks.
I use digitrax and rrckts interface also. Each block must be connected to the loconet via a bxp88 (8 blocks per device with transponding) or bdl168 (16 blocks per card-no transponding) board. ?Your switches get connected to the loconet via ds64 devices. I believe you can use virtual switches and not actually have your switches connected to the internet. Reporters work off of transponders. Your decoder in your engine must have transponding. Many new one do, old ones dont. Reporters are added to your layout panel and tells you which engine is in which block.
You must have a signal system setup on your layout panel. Again the signals dont have to be real on the layout.
Trains travel from block to block via your layout panel which tells the computer how your blocks are connected. It reads signals at the junction of each block. The computer then runs your trains after you set up routes, transits, and trains. Are you doing operations?

What do you want to do.

Tony



On Aug 21, 2018, at 3:24 PM, george.pendergraft <gmpender@...> wrote:

I have my layout built physically and in Layout Editor. I have 4 blocks separated in the layout. I am running a Digitrax Loconet system through RR-Cirkits. I am? using Microsoft Vista on my remote (no internet computer)
I have a Turnout table for all my turnouts and they are switched from a remote panel plus the computer.
I have a Block table with many automatic block names set that do not make sense, and I am not sure which one is which or where it is.
I have been reading the help manual and every time I start reading I have to have some other device or setup done to get my trains to run around the track. I am sure it is not that hard, or is it?
I read where I have to have Reporters
I read where I have to have Sensors among other things.
I do NOT read how to set up a train to get it running under what I have, or how to set up the reporter and other things to get MY train working.
It is a pretty large layout but not that big. 3 (4x8) boards. I am using a Zepher 50 to run the trains. All is DCC.
I am only getting more confused as I read the manual. It seems that it used to be a lot simpler.
Please I hope someone can help just to simplify the process.
George

Locked Help to Automate my railroad.

 

I have my layout built physically and in Layout Editor. I have 4 blocks separated in the layout. I am running a Digitrax Loconet system through RR-Cirkits. I am? using Microsoft Vista on my remote (no internet computer)
I have a Turnout table for all my turnouts and they are switched from a remote panel plus the computer.
I have a Block table with many automatic block names set that do not make sense, and I am not sure which one is which or where it is.
I have been reading the help manual and every time I start reading I have to have some other device or setup done to get my trains to run around the track. I am sure it is not that hard, or is it?
I read where I have to have Reporters
I read where I have to have Sensors among other things.
I do NOT read how to set up a train to get it running under what I have, or how to set up the reporter and other things to get MY train working.
It is a pretty large layout but not that big. 3 (4x8) boards. I am using a Zepher 50 to run the trains. All is DCC.
I am only getting more confused as I read the manual. It seems that it used to be a lot simpler.
Please I hope someone can help just to simplify the process.
George
Locked Re: Z21 and POM

 

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 06:31 PM, Paul Bender wrote:


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On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Moreno Mazzini <moreno.mazzini@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Paul Bender wrote:
Moreno,Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.

Paul
Sorry Paul, I tested last build/package available #2655, and now single CV programmer is ok for me, but I have error 306 again if I write a CV in a panel of a decoder definition.
?
Just looking at this again, 2696 is the latest build available at
?
You may need to refresh the page to see it. ?2655 definitely does not have the most recent fix.
?
Paul
Excuse me Paul, I have package 2655 (at I see the lastest build is 2696, but at I see the latest package is 2655).
Seems to me that are the same (build 2696 and package 2655). Both include your commit

Commit by 
better interpretation of the loconet messages received.
Sorry, I use wrong word. I confirm I have 306 error when I write a CV in POM in a panel of a decoder definition.
Moreno
Locked Re: Remote Access of Locations Window

 

Ken, I'm not aware of any recent changes to the Conductor code.
Locked Re: Z21 and POM

 

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On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Moreno Mazzini <moreno.mazzini@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Paul Bender wrote:
Moreno,Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.

Paul
Sorry Paul, I tested last build/package available #2655, and now single CV programmer is ok for me, but I have error 306 again if I write a CV in a panel of a decoder definition.

Just looking at this again, 2696 is the latest build available at

You may need to refresh the page to see it. ?2655 definitely does not have the most recent fix.

Paul
Locked Re: Speed steps Decoder pro Test Throttle

Bob Potter
 

Richard,
Once you get the throttle built and framed, if you go to the "File" tab on the throttle itself, you can save your creation as the default throttle.
I think that you may have to bring the default up for each roster entry at least once.
You can also save a different throttle configuration for each roster if you choose.
Bob
Locked Re: Z21 and POM

 

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No problem, I will take a look at that again.


On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Moreno Mazzini <moreno.mazzini@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Paul Bender wrote:
Moreno,Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.

Paul
Sorry Paul, I tested last build/package available #2655, and now single CV programmer is ok for me, but I have error 306 again if I write a CV in a panel of a decoder definition.

Please don't hate me and many thanks for your work.
Moreno

Locked Re: Z21 and POM

 

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Paul Bender wrote:
Moreno,Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.

Paul
Sorry Paul, I tested last build/package available #2655, and now single CV programmer is ok for me, but I have error 306 again if I write a CV in a panel of a decoder definition.

Please don't hate me and many thanks for your work.
Moreno
Locked Re: Full timetable automation - AutoDispatcher 2 - abstraction - documentation - scripting

 

I'd be very doubtful about trying to adapt a large complex set of software, with lots of semi-autonomous actions, designed to operate one complex system definition,?? to a quite differently purposed and defined complex system. I'd anticipate a lot of unexpected surprises and unintended consequences.

My career experience has favored understanding and defining the user/market requirements fully first, then designing a suitable functional architecture and matching implementation second. (hardware and software) .

BTW Going a little beyond the restrictions of tracked trolleys, prototype buses on the same or different routes are usually allowed to overtake other stopped buses at any convenient points if the rush hour traffic flow/congestion warrants it. A model of a rapid transit system would typically (try to) include buses as well as trolleys.

Andy



On 8/20/2018 8:05 PM, Dave Sand wrote:
James,

Each scheduled train has its own transit. ?This is required since the times are added as actions. ?This eliminates the shared transit limitation.

An “active train” in the Dispatcher sense uses the modified transit in conjunction with the assigned motive power, etc., as it does now. ?The “planned train” becomes a “real train”.

I see this being a 3 phase project:

1. Implement the "wait until time" action in Dispatcher. ?Once this
is in place, a person can manually add the actions to run a train
by a timetable.
2. Implement the ability to create a timetable with all of the
required data including the link to automatically maintain the
actions.
3. Provide reporting tools and the ability to export the data.


Dave Sand



On Aug 20, 2018, at 8:26 PM, jamespetts via Groups.Io <jamespetts@... <mailto:jamespetts@...>> wrote:

That is an interesting idea, although I wonder how that will work in conjunction with the limitation that only one train can run a single transit at a time.?Also, I wonder how easy that the UI would be for users to get an overview of the timetable as a whole. Also, would this preclude any system in which?trains were automatically and dymanically assigned to timetable runs, being selected at runtime based on criteria rather than fixed at the point of?timetable creation?


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Locked Re: Remote Access of Locations Window

 

Steve,

Does the Conductor screen now allow the options to edit what is there? This
exists on the computer end to say a car wasn't there for pickup, or a car
was found that didn't show. To advance to the next town, you had to
'complete' the work first, and before you couldn't make the changes via the
web. I haven't tested it lately, but last year, the web version only let you
say you completed the work and advance to the new town.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
Locked Re: Remote Access of Locations Window

 

Hi Mike,
You can access the Locations window by selecting "Enable frames" in the Web Preferences. This (mostly) works.
However, it sounds like you also want a web view of the YardMaster window as well, correct? Unfortunately, that window does not work properly with the frameserver. It actually hangs up my JMRI when I click on it.

Trains, Manifest and Conductor have all been rewritten as web applications, which seem to work well. The Trains and YardMaster functions could also be rewritten as web apps, but no one has yet undertaken to do the work.

Meanwhile, depending on your server setup, you may be able to use a remote control app, VNC, TeamViewer, etc. to share your server desktop screen including these windows out to your tablet client(s).

I will create a JMRI issue to create web versions of the Locations and YardMaster windows. One difficulty is finding someone willing and able to write the web apps who also knows enough about JMRI Operations to verify the functionality.

Regards,
? SteveT



On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:04 AM mopacmike <mopacmike@...> <mopacmike@...> wrote:
Hello.? I've successfully connected to JMRI from my Android Tablet via Google Chrome.? JMRI is running on my Windows 7 PC.? From the remote screen, the only thing I see listed under the Operations tab is the TRAINS window. From it, I can view the Manifest and Conductor views. ?
Is it possible to also access the LOCATIONS window remotely??
What I would like to do is mount an android tablet at the yard so that the yardmaster can click on the YARDMASTER buttons in the LOCATIONS window during a session.
Is there something I can do from my PC to make the Locations window shareable?
Thanks,
Mike

Locked Re: inventory function

Richard Dombrowski
 

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Time to talk to at least one of the kids who might possibly understand the true value. My wife’s comments prompted me to inventory the?'Empire’. I see I should add the books.
Rich

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:42 PM Jim Nealand via Groups.Io <casadiego86=[email protected]> wrote:
I don't know about you, but I keep way too much information about my inventory to keep all that in JMRI.? I use an excel spreadsheet with lots of columns for each entry and then I have separate pages within that file for engines, rolling stock, track, books, buildings etc.? Everytime I open that spreadsheet up I think it is time to sell some of that stuff off before my kids decide to get a dumpster.? Darn collector gene.? LOL

Jim Nealand
Kennesaw, GA



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Locked Re: Reading a decoder and copying to another decoder

 

It looks like you can select the first loco, then select Duplicate Loco from the Edit drop-down list. Seems like that should do what you want.
Locked Remote Access - Remote viewing of the Locations window

 

Is it possible to open the Operations Locations window remotely so that the Yardmaster lists could be viewed from a remote device?
The only Ops window I found available for remote viewing (not counting the CTC Panel and the Roster) was the Trains list.?
The Conductor view within that is close, but I would prefer to have the Yardmaster Report view accessible.
Is there something I can do to make the Locations window shareable so that the Yardmaster Report can be viewed remotely?
Or, could this potentially be incorporated in a future release?
-Mike
Locked Remote Access of Locations Window

 

Hello.? I've successfully connected to JMRI from my Android Tablet via Google Chrome.? JMRI is running on my Windows 7 PC.? From the remote screen, the only thing I see listed under the Operations tab is the TRAINS window. From it, I can view the Manifest and Conductor views. ?
Is it possible to also access the LOCATIONS window remotely??
What I would like to do is mount an android tablet at the yard so that the yardmaster can click on the YARDMASTER buttons in the LOCATIONS window during a session.
Is there something I can do from my PC to make the Locations window shareable?
Thanks,
Mike
Locked Re: Z21 and POM

 

Moreno,
On Aug 16, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Moreno Mazzini <moreno.mazzini@...> wrote:

Paul,
I tested build 2642. Is better than the previous, but there is still a problem in the single CV programmer: if I write a CV value greater than 128, after the POM CV write, textbox value decrease by 128 (I write value 200, I click "Write CV" button, CV is written but the textbox value become 72, if I write value 240, textbox value become 52, if I write value 50, textbox value remain 50).
No problem using a panel of a loco, now I can successfully write many CVs!
Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.

Paul
Locked Re: Reading a decoder and copying to another decoder

 

Right click the roster entry, duplicate.

Mick

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, so please excuse the typos.
Locked Re: Possible bug in EntryExit

 

Benny,

I have created a fix for the color change during route setting problem.

It sounds like your panel configuration is a good test case for debugging route selection.


Dave Sand

On Aug 20, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:

I have done that several times.
I have 2 turnouts half way to target sensor jmri always selects instead of the 2 closest to source sensor leaving the train half on track 1 and half on track 2.
I put higher metric on the track between the two turnouts close to target but no difference. It was than I noticed the other issue.

/Benny

Den m?n 20 aug 2018 22:47Dave Sand <ds@...> skrev:
Benny,

You might try resetting the block paths. Select Tools >> Blocks. From the Block table menu select Paths >> Delete Paths. Save the panel file and stop JMRI. When you start and load the panel file, the paths will be re-built. Sometimes this will clear up block routing issues.

If that does not help, upload the panel file to ProblemsBeingWorkedOn and I will take a look at it.


Dave Sand



On Aug 20, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:

Ok, than i know since some times it does not change and I probobly click A to B than.

Another question. I get strange routing, instead of going direct from point A to D it selects turnout from A on track 1 down to track 2 and down to track 3 and than back to track 1 out to D.
Can I make jmri build next hop in a different way? I tried to set metric but it does not work.

/Benny

Den m?n 20 aug 2018 22:11Dave Sand <ds@...> skrev:
Benny,

I did some testing. I can re-create your problem if I to a multi-segment selection. By that I mean I select A and C instead of A and B followed by B and C.

I will add this to my todo list.


Dave Sand



On Aug 20, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:

Benny,

Normally you want to select the Clear option. This disables the option to use a different color during route setup.

The theory behind this option is to let the dispatcher know that the route is being set. Once the setup is complete and the specified time has expired, the track and extra colors go back to the assigned values. If an error occurs during the setup process, the temporary track and extra colors remain. There might have been an error recorded in the system console.


Dave Sand



On Aug 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:

It was set to white. I have changed it to green and than I get track color changed to green instead.
So after I have set an entryexit it turn to alternate color, which is green. If I clear it i get green on some tracks and black on most of the tracks. So it changes the track color from black to green.

/Benny

Den s?n 19 aug 2018 21:52Dave Sand <ds@...> skrev:
Benny,

Use Layout Editor Tools to open the Entry/Exit table. Select Options >> Options from the table menu.

What color do you have set for “Initial color of path”? Based on your description it appears to be White.

If the setup process is interrupted for any reason, the track and extra colors are not set back. A subsequent save will update the panel xml file.


Dave Sand



On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:

In JMRI 4.12 the color on tracks is changed when an NX is activated.
Track color is changed from black to white on some of the blocks, not all, and extracolor is changed from green to white on same blocks. The only color not changed is the occupiedcolor.

Before setting an EntryExit:
<layoutblock systemName="ILB29" occupancysensor="dSIIa" occupidsense="2" trackcolor="black" occupiedcolor="red" extracolor="green">
<systemName>ILB29</systemName>
<userName>SIIa</userName>
</layoutblock>
After:
<layoutblock systemName="ILB29" occupancysensor="dSIIa" occupidsense="2" trackcolor="white" occupiedcolor="red" extracolor="white">
<systemName>ILB29</systemName>
<userName>SIIa</userName>
</layoutblock>

/Best regards
Benny
Locked Re: Possible bug in EntryExit

 

I have done that several times.
I have 2 turnouts half way to target sensor jmri always selects instead of the 2 closest to source sensor leaving the train half on track 1 and half on track 2.
I put higher metric on the track between the two turnouts close to target but no difference. It was than I noticed the other issue.

/Benny

Den m?n 20 aug 2018 22:47Dave Sand <ds@...> skrev:

Benny,

You might try resetting the block paths.? Select Tools >> Blocks.? From the Block table menu select Paths >> Delete Paths.? Save the panel file and stop JMRI.? When you start and load the panel file, the paths will be re-built.? Sometimes this will clear up block routing issues.

If that does not help, upload the panel file to ProblemsBeingWorkedOn and I will take a look at it.


Dave Sand



> On Aug 20, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, than i know since some times it does not change and I probobly click A to B than.
>
> Another question. I get strange routing, instead of going direct from point A to D it selects turnout from A on track 1 down to track 2 and down to track 3 and than back to track 1 out to D.
> Can I make jmri build next hop in a different way? I tried to set metric but it does not work.
>
> /Benny
>
> Den m?n 20 aug 2018 22:11Dave Sand <ds@...> skrev:
> Benny,
>
> I did some testing.? I can re-create your problem if I to a multi-segment selection.? By that I mean I select A and C instead of A and B followed by B and C.
>
> I will add this to my todo list.
>
>
> Dave Sand
>
>
>
> > On Aug 20, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:
> >
> > Benny,
> >
> > Normally you want to select the Clear option.? This disables the option to use a different color during route setup.
> >
> > The theory behind this option is to let the dispatcher know that the route is being set.? Once the setup is complete and the specified time has expired, the track and extra colors go back to the assigned values.? If an error occurs during the setup process, the temporary track and extra colors remain.? There might have been an error recorded in the system console.
> >
> >
> > Dave Sand
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> It was set to white. I have changed it to green and than I get track color changed to green instead.
> >> So after I have set an entryexit it turn to alternate color, which is green. If I clear it i get green on some tracks and black on most of the tracks. So it changes the track color from black to green.
> >>
> >> /Benny
> >>
> >> Den s?n 19 aug 2018 21:52Dave Sand <ds@...> skrev:
> >> Benny,
> >>
> >> Use Layout Editor Tools to open the Entry/Exit table.? Select Options >> Options from the table menu.
> >>
> >> What color do you have set for “Initial color of path”?? Based on your description it appears to be White.
> >>
> >> If the setup process is interrupted for any reason, the track and extra colors are not set back.? A subsequent save will update the panel xml file.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave Sand
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Benny Tj?der <etxbct@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In JMRI 4.12 the color on tracks is changed when an NX is activated.
> >>> Track color is changed from black to white on some of the blocks, not all, and extracolor is changed from green to white on same blocks. The only color not changed is the occupiedcolor.
> >>>
> >>> Before setting an EntryExit:
> >>> <layoutblock? systemName="ILB29" occupancysensor="dSIIa" occupidsense="2" trackcolor="black" occupiedcolor="red" extracolor="green">
> >>>? ? <systemName>ILB29</systemName>
> >>>? ? <userName>SIIa</userName>
> >>> </layoutblock>
> >>> After:
> >>> <layoutblock? systemName="ILB29" occupancysensor="dSIIa" occupidsense="2" trackcolor="white" occupiedcolor="red" extracolor="white">
> >>>? ? <systemName>ILB29</systemName>
> >>>? ? <userName>SIIa</userName>
> >>> </layoutblock>
> >>>
> >>> /Best regards
> >>> Benny
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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