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Re: Slot Monitor expansion to 400 slots
I reached out to AJ at NTS to see if/when Digitrax will be open to working with the JMRI team to bring the software up to speed to talk to the DCS240 for the expanded slots and all. He says that he has reached out to the appropriate person of the JMRI group but the individual has not gotten back in touch with him. It will be interesting to see if the LocoNet Personal Edition gets updated....
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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:01 AM, billybob experimenter wrote:
Wayne,
What's an EPrompt? I've never heard of one, either inside JMRI or outside of it, either.
I suspect that you will need to give us some context on your problem. And I wonder if your problem may be unrelated to JMRI...
Regards,
Billybob
?On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:01 AM, billybob experimenter wrote:
Wayne,
What's an EPrompt? I've never heard of one, either inside JMRI or outside of it, either.
I suspect that you will need to give us some context on your problem. And I wonder if your problem may be unrelated to JMRI...
Regards,
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Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?
A manual would be nice, but who has the time to keep up with all the
improvements/changes?
Once JMRI has slowed down in it's development and become more sedate in
development a manual con be under taken.
The JMRI group is the default manual for now...got a question or problem? Post
it here.
John
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Date: August 13, 2018 at 6:13 PM
George,
It doesn't matter if anyone agrees. If there is no one willing to put in the
work it won't happen.
I personally think the effort would be better spent elsewhere.
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Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues
Sounds like the same problem that I’m having. Posted ?earlier today. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Ron BurkhardSent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:13 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [jmriusers] Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues ? Gents, ??? The subject issue: NCE Power Pro, serial port RS232 connected to PC windows 10 works normally.? Older JMRI version not updated recently.? I have plugged the RS-232 to USB into PC with no positive results, and have not attempted to trouble shoot at this time. The Problem: I am attempting to use said Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro 2.7 Core i7.? JmRI Ver 4.12+Rb6u9bb1, java 1.8.0_171(en_US). Per Dave Heap for the NCE users group emails, software/updates, Silabs usbdriver disk.dmg, Trendnet TU-S9 software, Mac.os.vcp_driver.zip,? have been downloaded & installed.? The cable is from the desktop to a Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB. I suspect the Trendnet is the culprit in the laptop not communicating to the Power Pro.? I have been through all the preferences: NCE System Mfr - NCE System connection - Serial Serial Port choice - Choices are None/cu.Bluetooth-incoming.port/TTy.Bluetooth-incomming-port (none work) Connection prefix - N Connection Name - NCE Baud rate - 9600 Eprom - 2006 or later Any ideas out there? Thanks Ron B ?
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Re: Entering New Loco's in DEcoder Pro
Dave is correct - you do NOT need the 2.5 Sprog for programming -
BUT - When doing installs on O Scale locos and then test running
them the power from the Sprog 3 is a big help.
Last week I re-motored an O scale Challenger using a WOW 5 amp
decoder. The extra "oomph" is a big help. Currently on the bench a
brass O scale SD70ac with same size decoder.
Gerry
On 14/08/2018 9:31 AM, Dave Heap wrote:
You don't need the 2.5A SPROG 3 to program decoders.
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Thanks for the suggestions all. I think
from reading the various replies I’ll have to bite the bullet (
or whatever the train analogy is) and buy the Sprog 3 with the
2.5 amp output. I inherited the one I have so I don’t know how
old it is. With sound decoders getting more and more complex,
and using more power, pretty soon we’re going to need small
reactors to power stuff.
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Great Northern Downunder
NMRA Australasian Region
Contest & AP Chairman
Web Administrator
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Don't use the Rolling Thunder definition for a loco decoder. It's for the external "Rolling Thunder" box, which installs under your layout.
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On 14 Aug 2018, at 2:26 AM, Mike Heintzman < mikeheintzman@...> wrote: I tried to manually tell it that it was a BLI Paragon 3 Rolling Thunder, but got the same error
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On 14 Aug 2018, at 6:32 AM, Mike Heintzman < mikeheintzman@...> wrote: Thanks for the suggestions all. I think from reading the various replies I’ll have to bite the bullet ( or whatever the train analogy is) and buy the Sprog 3 with the 2.5 amp output. I inherited the one I have so I don’t know how old it is. With sound decoders getting more and more complex, and using more power, pretty soon we’re going to need small reactors to power stuff.
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Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues
The?Tripp Lite HS19 series adaptor is fine. It may need a straight-through 9-pin cable to overcome a physical connector issue. I generally recommend the FTDI one sold as a spare part by ESU (dealers) for their LokProgrammer. It is cheap, reliable and doesn't need an adaptor cable.
Once you get the cable and drivers working as per my instructions, there is another potential issue with the Power Pro connector, but that can wait until we see your driver loading on the Mac and JMRI can see it. I'll post the link to that if we need it, it's not your current problem.
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On 14 Aug 2018, at 8:27 AM, Ron Burkhard < ronburk453@...> wrote: Will work on it very soon. ?I did order a new cable as suggested. ?Will know by Thursday.
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Mike
I have a Sprog II and a Sprog 3 and use a 15 volt supply for
both. No problems with any decoder.
Gerry
On 14/08/2018 8:12 AM, Peter Ulvestad
wrote:
Mike,
Using the PR3 as a standalone programmer, what power supply are you using? I use a 19 volt supply, other use 18 with no issues. Similarly, what power supply with your sprog (which is probably rated at 1 amp)? Check there website but I think you can use a higher voltage supply there as well.
While decoders may be getting more complex, they are not using more power IMHO. The opposite in fact.
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Gerry Hopkins MMR #177 FNMRA
Great Northern Downunder
NMRA Australasian Region
Contest & AP Chairman
Web Administrator
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Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?
George,
It doesn't matter if anyone agrees. If there is no one willing to put in the work it won't happen.
I personally think the effort would be better spent elsewhere.
--
Peter Ulvestad
JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -
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A simple fix that comes to mind is that the Local starts at the storage track with a route of Storage Track - Barge - Industries and then return. Set the moves in the route for Barge at 0 for set outs and pick-ups.
Clark Bauman
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Re: Engine Driver Consists & functions
For those of you who have been following this thread, some private communications with Peter Akers has resolved the issue. Turns out the "Selective Lead Loco Sound" preference does not mean that F1 & F2 are not transmitted to trailing locos. It means that any function with a roster label containing one of the word fragments "bell", "horn", or "whistle" is not transmitted. Thus, you need to put function labels in at least the lead loco JMRI roster entry to get the selective sound feature to work. It also means that you can prevent alternate sounds assigned to other functions from being transmitted to trailing locos by putting one of the word fragments in the label. For instance, if a horn crossing sequence is assigned to F14, you can restrict it to the lead loco by using a label such as horn-c.
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Thanks! Will work on it very soon. ?I did order a new cable as suggested. ?Will know by Thursday. Ron B
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On Aug 13, 2018, at 16:43, Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote: James is correct. You do not have the correct drivers installed for your Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB. The SiLabs drivers are for the NCE USB board, which is not suitable for the Power Pro.
You need find and install drivers for the Trendnet cable.
Irrespective of DCC system, there are some basic rules for troubleshooting any USB-attached device to a Mac.
Plug your device into your Mac.
Go to "System Information" from Apple Menu->About This Mac->More Info->System Report.
Look in the USB section, expand all sections under controllers and hubs and see what devices are present.
Unplug your device, select Refresh from the System Profiler menus and see what device has disappeared. Plug your device back in, refresh again and see what reappears. Repeat until you see what is changing. If there is no change, there must be a hardware problem external to your Mac, such as a faulty USB cable, connector or device and there is no point going any further until your Mac can see the physical device.
Once you have seen the device in System Profiler, you will quite likely have to install Mac drivers for it (although some do not need extra drivers, see your documentation). If unsure, try the next step anyway.
Unplug your device. Open a Terminal Window (from /Applications/Utilities), copy and paste the following command in EXACTLY (including spaces and punctuation) then press Enter.
while : ;do clear;ls -lt /dev|head;i=$((i+1));echo $i;sleep 1;done
This command should show about 10 lines of output and then sit looping, with a counter incrementing every second.
Plug your device back in and wait a few seconds. Two new items with names like ?cu.xxx and tty.xxx should appear in the list. They should disappear if you unplug your device. If this does not happen, you do not have the correct drivers installed for your device and you will need to solve that before proceeding further. Once you have found your device, write down the name you see.You want the cu.xxx version not the tty.xxx version.
If you have got this far you know your device is be being seen by the Mac, that it has a matching driver installed and the name of the connection port "cu.xxx" you need to select in JMRI. If you cannot get this far, there's no way JMRI can find your device until the driver issue is resolved.
Please report back exactly how far you get. ?
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The Problem: I am attempting to use said Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro 2.7 Core i7.? JmRI Ver 4.12+Rb6u9bb1, java 1.8.0_171(en_US).
Per Dave Heap for the NCE users group emails, software/updates, Silabs usbdriver disk.dmg, Trendnet TU-S9 software, Mac.os.vcp_driver.zip,? have been downloaded & installed.? The cable is from the desktop to a Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB.
I suspect the Trendnet is the culprit in the laptop not communicating to the Power Pro.? I have been through all the preferences:
NCE
System Mfr - NCE
System connection - Serial
Serial Port choice - Choices are None/cu.Bluetooth-incoming.port/TTy.Bluetooth-incomming-port (none work)
Connection prefix - N
Connection Name - NCE
Baud rate - 9600
Eprom - 2006 or later
Any ideas out there?
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Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?
Yes, but I for one like to have something in my hand to read. A real printed manual at my leisure instead of staring at a computer monitor. I can also concentrate on learning about the program whenever I want to without having to go back and fourth between the program and the online manual. That is just me. Granted, if there are manuals that are incomplete or out of date like those of today, then a manual to that extent is not going to do much training. Thus my solution to set a release date for the software to come out every year, and put a printable manual out for use in that year. Makes sense to me. Unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough on the software to help with the writing of such a large undertaking. And I do realize it is a big undertaking. But many of us (like me) out here are just squeaking by on how to use the software and as some say even the software instructions for today would be inadequate to instruct anyone today just because things are changing so fast. But it would be nice to have something to look at in my lap while learning the software. Anyone else out there agree? George
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Re: Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro issues
An extra step for High Sierra and later:
In High Sierra, you must open System Preferences->Privacy and Security and allow the kernel extensions (drivers) you installed to be loaded, or they will not be used.?
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Mike,
Using the PR3 as a standalone programmer, what power supply are you using? I use a 19 volt supply, other use 18 with no issues. Similarly, what power supply with your sprog (which is probably rated at 1 amp)? Check there website but I think you can use a higher voltage supply there as well.
While decoders may be getting more complex, they are not using more power IMHO. The opposite in fact.
--
Peter Ulvestad
JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -
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Using your Pro Cab, under SETUP COMMAND STATION: - Check the EPROM version and report back. - Ensure AIU broadcasts are enabled. - Make sure baud rate is set to 9600 (in the Power Pro).
Make sure the EPROM version selected in JMRI is appropriate for what you determined above.
Take a look at this troubleshooting information: <>
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On 14 Aug 2018, at 3:39 AM, Bob via Groups.Io < GMRC405@...> wrote: 2018-08-13 13:19:16,545 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter????? INFO? - NCE COM6 port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,654 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 6.2.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,764 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Detected 2007 March EPROM which doesn't provide reliable MONITORING feedback for turnouts [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
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Re: Slot Monitor expansion to 400 slots
I suspected as much.? I will enquire of Digitrax as to if and when they might update their Loconet Personal Edition.? Doug Soeder ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of billybob experimenter
Sent: August 12, 2018 20:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Slot Monitor expansion to 400 slots? Doug S., ? AJ has stated in the past that dealing with expanded slots adds a significant level of complexity.? I think that may be an understatement. ? As such, adding expanded slot support to JMRI is not a simple problem to overcome.? JMRI throttles, slot monitor and LocoNet monitor are definitely affected, and perhaps a few other things, too. ? There has been some development effort on this.? Some non-trivial problems have popped up - technical, personal, and otherwise - that must be overcome before this work is likely to see the light of day. ? Regards, Billybob
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James is correct. You do not have the correct drivers installed for your Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB. The SiLabs drivers are for the NCE USB board, which is not suitable for the Power Pro.
You need find and install drivers for the Trendnet cable.
Irrespective of DCC system, there are some basic rules for troubleshooting any USB-attached device to a Mac.
Plug your device into your Mac.
Go to "System Information" from Apple Menu->About This Mac->More Info->System Report.
Look in the USB section, expand all sections under controllers and hubs and see what devices are present.
Unplug your device, select Refresh from the System Profiler menus and see what device has disappeared. Plug your device back in, refresh again and see what reappears. Repeat until you see what is changing. If there is no change, there must be a hardware problem external to your Mac, such as a faulty USB cable, connector or device and there is no point going any further until your Mac can see the physical device.
Once you have seen the device in System Profiler, you will quite likely have to install Mac drivers for it (although some do not need extra drivers, see your documentation). If unsure, try the next step anyway.
Unplug your device. Open a Terminal Window (from /Applications/Utilities), copy and paste the following command in EXACTLY (including spaces and punctuation) then press Enter.
while : ;do clear;ls -lt /dev|head;i=$((i+1));echo $i;sleep 1;done
This command should show about 10 lines of output and then sit looping, with a counter incrementing every second.
Plug your device back in and wait a few seconds. Two new items with names like ?cu.xxx and tty.xxx should appear in the list. They should disappear if you unplug your device. If this does not happen, you do not have the correct drivers installed for your device and you will need to solve that before proceeding further. Once you have found your device, write down the name you see.You want the cu.xxx version not the tty.xxx version.
If you have got this far you know your device is be being seen by the Mac, that it has a matching driver installed and the name of the connection port "cu.xxx" you need to select in JMRI. If you cannot get this far, there's no way JMRI can find your device until the driver issue is resolved.
Please report back exactly how far you get. ?
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On 14 Aug 2018, at 12:30 AM, Ron Burkhard < ronburk453@...> wrote: ??? The subject issue: NCE Power Pro, serial port RS232 connected to PC windows 10 works normally.? Older JMRI version not updated recently.? I have plugged the RS-232 to USB into PC with no positive results, and have not attempted to trouble shoot at this time.
The Problem: I am attempting to use said Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro 2.7 Core i7.? JmRI Ver 4.12+Rb6u9bb1, java 1.8.0_171(en_US).
Per Dave Heap for the NCE users group emails, software/updates, Silabs usbdriver disk.dmg, Trendnet TU-S9 software, Mac.os.vcp_driver.zip,? have been downloaded & installed.? The cable is from the desktop to a Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB.
I suspect the Trendnet is the culprit in the laptop not communicating to the Power Pro.? I have been through all the preferences:
NCE
System Mfr - NCE
System connection - Serial
Serial Port choice - Choices are None/cu.Bluetooth-incoming.port/TTy.Bluetooth-incomming-port (none work)
Connection prefix - N
Connection Name - NCE
Baud rate - 9600
Eprom - 2006 or later
Any ideas out there?
Thanks
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Re: DP v 4.12 & v 4.13.2 Upgrade Problem
Two things might be happening, both need looking at:
a)?????
The “defaults” in the preferences might not be set to the Sprog device
b)?????
It would appear that a “profile” may be the cause of not seeing the existing roster files, and instead looking in a different place, finding none,
so offering the “blank roster” startup help screen.?
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They are accessed from the preferences dialogue.?
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Nigel
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of David Woodrell
Sent: 13 August 2018 19:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] DP v 4.12 & v 4.13.2 Upgrade Problem
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To set the stage, I use a Laptop WIN 7 machine with a SPROG II connection for programming which has worked fine in the past.? Since I hadn't fired it up in over a year? I decided to upgrade to the latest version.? After download and install
of v 4.12 when I opened it I was directed immediately to the Roster page without the usual preferences/ intro panel being shown.? When I attempted to open up and program one of my roster locos I could not do it (either by the Program button or double clicking
on my roster selection). I believe the SPROG is configured right (COM4 on my machine) and the drivers seem to be up to date. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 4.12 at least 3 times, with the same result.? I finally decided to try 4.13.2, but when I open the
program now it takes me to a "DecoderPro: All Entries" panel with a "Getting Started" display with instructions on how to enter a new loco, which is NOT what I want to do - I just want to modify a few CVs on some of my existing locos.? I'm afraid I have exhausted
my ideas on what is going on here.? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
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