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Trying out this nightly build version, I get a problem opening my panel. I'm using the Z21 for loco control and point control, plus MERG Cbus to control more points.

Using the production version, panel opens fine.

Tim

On Jun 22, 2017, at 12:58 AM, triangkeeper@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Thank you for confirming my observations. I am planning of extending hardware bits using the shift register method and I am now a bit worried that C/MRI operation of updating changes may slow things down somewhat. Maybe more nodes might be a better approach.

What you do internal to your node is separate from the protocol on the line. For example, you could keep the current status in memory, then compare it when something new is written over the line. That way, you can see which bit(s) changed, and just tell hardware about them.

Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Regarding car locations, I use Excel (older version, 2000) to import the car roster export.

Before pre-building any trains for an Ops Session, I do this (Export) then create a spreadsheet with two worksheets: one is all cars sorted by number, and one is all cars sorted by location and spur. This allows me to verify, or re-set/pre-set, the cars on the layout for the Ops Session.

This may not be for the feint of heart though (says Phil as as he starts trying to explain his process and edits it about 32 times in an attempt to achieve the right balance of tech and novice steps).

1. In JMRI, in the Cars file, I use "Tools/Car Roster/Export to file". This creates a "csv" file (comma delimited text file) in a (new) subdirectory "operations" under my User File Location preference.
2. In Excel: I import the data then massage it.
a. Using "Data/Get External Data/Import Text File", I change the search to All Files (since Excel text import does not show csv files). I find and select the "ExportOperationsCarRoster.csv" file.
b. In the Text Import Wizard step 1 of 3, I change the radio button to "Delimited" in the "Original data type" box, then click Next.
c. In the Text Import Wizard step 2 of 3, I check "Comma" in the Delimiters box (which then shows, in the Data preview window, the fields all separated into columns)
d. In the Text Import Wizard step 3 of 3, I click the Finish button. Usually, I skip whatever columns which are not needed (but this is optional since Excel lets you delete those columns later if desired).
e. I select the location to import the data into (typically the top left cell). This creates a worksheet of all cars in the Cars file, sorted by number.

I then sort/arrange the data as needed (delete columns not needed) then I work the Page Setup (printing 1 wide by 2 or 3 tall), highlight the area to be printed then set the Print Area and format the cells with borders and interior lines; then I copy the data to another worksheet and sort/arrange that as needed (by location/spur).

I do this before building any trains to make and print what I call the "Starting Positions" reports (one by number, one by location/spur). I also subsequently import the cars data (to a column after the existing data) after building all my trains to compare the before and after. My 9 trains move an average of about 85 cars (out of an active roster of 111), change loads on about 45, and move about 11 on more than one train per session.

Hope this gives you ideas on possibilitys. I can answer any questions, and would invite comments too if other methods or ways can improve the results.

Phil in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA (aka pesky computer geek)

On 06/22/2017 07:26 AM, tventonukgateway@... [jmriusers] wrote:

Update, tried WiThrottle (Android), starts loco going, but loses it, no control at all.

Ok, so the question we need to answer with that problem is where are we loosing the connection.

It could be between the PC and the Z21, but it could also be between the PC and Engine Driver.

One thing I need to determine that is a Z21 message log from JMRI.

Paul

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Phil

Is this the build report that works, or the one that fails?


Dan

Sudden memory:

Go to Preferences->Defaults and check that NCE is selected for everything, rather than Internal.
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Dave in Australia

Norman,

Instead of sending the file to the printer, try the "Microsoft XPS Document Writer" and send the output to me to review. You might have a printer that doesn't quite work right with JMRI.


Dan

The "nce.NceConnectionStatus INFO - NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0" in the log below indicates your drivers, jumpers, baud rate and JMRI settings are correct and that JMRI can communicate with your NCE USB.

We now need to see a log (and a report on what the NCE USB LEDs do) when you attempt to drive a loco, program a decoder).
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Dave in Australia

Geoff

CMRI communication is well defined in this document:



There are four special characters to be aware of:

STX (hex 0x02, decimal 2) – Start of Text
ETX (hex 0x03, decimal 3) – End of Text
DLE (hex 0x10, decimal 16) – Data Link Escape
SYN (hex 0xFF, decimal 255) ! Synchronization

The use of DLE is outlined on page 5, line 162 in the document linked above.

For other questions about CMRI specifically, you might want to join the CMRI yahoo group - look for "CMRI_Users".

Regards
Blair Smith

Due to a firmware problem, the NCE Power Pro is incapable of correctly programming CVs>256 in Program Track mode (a CV<256 will be reprogrammed instead of the correct one). However you can program CVs>256 of ESU decoders in Program Track mode provided you use a current version of JMRI (ESU has provided a workaround in their decoder firmware and JMRI uses this behind-the-scenes).

If you are using any ESU, Econami or Tsunami decoders, you MUST NOT use JMRI V4.2.1. You should always use the latest JMRI version with these decoders as it will prevent you mis-programming your decoders and will also have the latest fixes, updates for these decoders.
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Dave in Australia

Update, tried WiThrottle (Android), starts loco going, but loses it, no control at all.

Tim

OK thanks Paul. Throttle works, as I would expect it too.

I am unable to test any programming as I don't use the Z21 for that purpose.

Now onto the next but minor problem. I have done a workaround, but it is an annoyance. The turnouts are one digit out. If I choose the turnout 56, 55 is the one that moves. Plus the thrown/closed indicator on the Multimaus is reversed to that showing in JMRI, and using the Invert command does not correct it.

Tim

First apologies for my tirade about the new version. I could have been more
tactful.

As for 4.7.6, after about a day of testing and tries, I have given up on
it, and gone back to 4.6.0, and all is well, but only after a scratch
install.

The only thing I found is that when in simulation, the java error does not
occur, but when JMRI is connected to live networks (LCC for turnouts and
switches, NCE for throttles and Loconet for sensors and signals), then
warrants crashes with a java error at the run click.

I was about to test which network was possibly contributing to the error,
but reset for the coming session was higher priority, and I needed a
functioning system.

Thank you for the few that have replied (on list and off). Suggestions were
appreciated.

Leo P

Thanks, I will see how I go.


(It may prove easier for me to wait till you have moved ED to AndroidStudio.)


Peter


---In jmriusers@..., <mstevetodd@...> wrote :

Thanks, Peter.

Those changes looked good and were easy to pull into my copy. I've committed them to JMRI/EngineDriver. You'll want to update your repo from there (or refork) before adding other changes.


Please proceed with the other changes the same way. then, when we've got JMRI/EngineDriver all caught up, I'm going to proceed to:
1) update all source files to match latest JMRI standard (Linux line endings, spaces instead of tabs). I'll push in this change with no functional changes mixed in.
2) move ED into Android Studio, and push this change in. Again, no functional changes mixed.


Thanks!
SteveT

Billybob,

Thank you for confirming my observations. I am planning of extending hardware bits using the shift register method and I am now a bit worried that C/MRI operation of updating changes may slow things down somewhat. Maybe more nodes might be a better approach.

Rgds
Geoff

P.S. here is a screen shot of 4 Lights sequentially swicthed to ON

[41 54 01 00 00 00 00 00] Transmit ua=0 OB=1 0 0 0 0 0
[41 54 10 03 00 00 00 00 00] Transmit ua=0 OB=10 3 0 0 0 0 0
[41 54 07 00 00 00 00 00] Transmit ua=0 OB=7 0 0 0 0 0
[41 54 0F 00 00 00 00 00] Transmit ua=0 OB=f 0 0 0 0 0

I also don't know why there is extra 10 in the second line

Sorry, but neither of those is right.

It sounds like the LI100’s USB connection isn’t being properly being seen by your Mac. Perhaps there’s a driver that has to be loaded?

Bob

On Jun 17, 2017, at 4:18 PM, wmseapc@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Bob; my only 2 options were

/dev/tty.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port; &



/dev/cu.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port


I switched to the 2nd one & it appears to be rectified in the System Console


2017-06-17 19:14:29,981 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2017-06-17 19:14:30,979 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/messages.log [main]
2017-06-17 19:14:30,980 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/session.log [main]
2017-06-17 19:14:30,986 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.6-R81496dc starts under Java 1.8.0_131 on Mac OS X x86_64 v10.12.5 at Sat Jun 17 19:14:30 EDT 2017 [main]
2017-06-17 19:14:33,451 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile wmseamac.3f48e951 [main]
2017-06-17 19:14:33,648 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-28F0761979C8-3f48e951 as the JMRI Node identity [main]
2017-06-17 19:14:33,785 li100.LI100Adapter INFO - /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port port opened at 9600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false CD: false [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:03,807 li100.LI100XNetInitializationManager WARN - Command Station disconnected, or powered down assuming LZ100/LZV100 V3.x [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:03,877 jmri.InstanceManager ERROR - Should not set default of type jmri.CommandStation to null value [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:03,878 managers.ManagerDefaultSelector WARN - SystemConnectionMemo for XPressnet (class jmri.jmrix.lenz.XNetSystemConnectionMemo) provides a null interface jmri.CommandStation instance [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:03,878 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.managers.ManagerDefaultSelector: System connection XPressnet provides a null manager for interface jmri.CommandStation [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:08,809 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: 21 21 00 consecutive timeouts = 0 [Transmit]
2017-06-17 19:15:38,912 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is /Applications/JMRI/ [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:38,912 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/wmseamac/ [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:38,913 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/wmseamac/ [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:38,913 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/ [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:38,913 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is /Users/williamseabrooke/ [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:38,913 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is /Applications/JMRI/jython/ [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:39,210 swing.RosterFrame ERROR - Unable to get the double click speed, Using JMRI default of half a secondjava.lang.NullPointerException [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:39,568 gui3.TabbedPreferencesAction INFO - We are already waiting for the preferences to be displayed [main]
2017-06-17 19:15:43,838 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: 21 24 05 consecutive timeouts = 1 [Transmit]


But I still see 2 different errors.


Like I stated earlier I am a newbie to Wifi & JMRI


Thanks to all!

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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

I have missed something, and cannot see what.

In one spur (IGA Dr 1), I have a reefer that is scheduled to be picked up (which would make room for a new car), and I have a reefer in a yard that is supposed to be delivered there. The build report initially fails to assign the new car due to no room. Then further down, the build report assigns the P/U from the spur but it is too late for the delivery. I mistakenly had thought that aggressive mode with 2 passes would solve that.

I have worked around that by making the route for that train go to that town twice, once from the yard, then again after returning to the yard. The build report therefore assigns the car to be picked up in the 1st visit, then assigns the car to be delivered in the 2nd visit (to an empty spur).


I had wanted to make the train take the new car with and merely swap the P/U with the S/O (as I suspect the prototype did).



Here are portions of the build report:

"1- Build Report for train (#322) built on 6/18/17 10:35 PM
1- JMRI version 4.7.6+R570b2bc
3- Build report detail level: Normal
5- Build report detail level: Detailed
7- Build report detail level: Very Detailed
7- Router build report level: Very Detailed
1-
5- Train Build Options:
5- Build option is set to aggressive
5- Perform 2 passes
5- Car routing via yards is enabled
5- Allow local moves if car has a custom load or FD
5- Allow cars to travel from origin to terminal
1-
3- Train (#322) route (322-Marietta Local):
3- Location (Elizabeth) requests 9 pick ups, maximum train length 500 feet
3- Location (Marietta) requests 9 moves, maximum train length 500 feet
3- Location (Elizabeth) requests 9 moves, maximum train length 500 feet
3- Location (Eliz-Support) requests 9 moves, maximum train length 500 feet
3- Location (Elizabeth) requests 10 moves, maximum train length 600 feet
3- Location (Marietta) requests 10 moves, maximum train length 400 feet
3- Location (Elizabeth) requests 10 set outs
1- Route (322-Marietta Local) requests 33 cars and 66 moves
...
7- Car (WFEX 68249) type (ReeferIce) at (Elizabeth, Liz Yard Trks) 1 moves
...
7- Car (PFE 95829) type (ReeferIce) at (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) 1 moves
...
5- Car (WFEX 68249) type (ReeferIce) load (Peaches) at (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
5- Trks) has final destination (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) routing begins
7- Train (#322) can pull car (WFEX 68249) from (Elizabeth, Liz Yard Trks)
7- route id (18r1)
7- Train (#322) can transport car (WFEX 68249) from C/I (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
7- Trks) to (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Route for car (WFEX 68249): (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
7- Trks)->(#322)->(Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Can't use spur (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) for (WFEX 68249) due to rolling stock
7- length 44 feet, available track space 1 feet
7- Track (IGA Dr 1) full, searching for a yard at destination (Marietta)
7- Could not find a yard at (Marietta) for car (WFEX 68249)
5- Did not assign a destination for car (WFEX 68249)
...
5- Find spur for car (PFE 95829) type (ReeferIce) custom load (MT-Reefer) at
5- (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Try destination (Atlanta Interchange, ATL Trk 2) for car (PFE 95829) with
7- load (MT-Reefer)
7- Train (#322) doesn't service location (Atlanta Interchange)
7-
7- Find train for car (PFE 95829) from (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) to (Atlanta
7- Interchange, ATL Trk 2)
7- Train (#120) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#261) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#290) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#44) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#49) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#121) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#45) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7- Train (#50) doesn't service location (Marietta)
7-
7- Router could not find a train able to transport car (PFE 95829) directly
7- from (Marietta) to (Atlanta Interchange) begin two train routing
7-
7- Router find C/I track for car (PFE 95829) final destination (Atlanta
7- Interchange, ATL Trk 2)
7-
7- Can't use C/I (Murphy, MU C/I Trk) for (PFE 95829) due to type (ReeferIce)
7-
7- Can't use C/I (Murphy, MU C/I Trk (50)) for (PFE 95829) due to type
7- (ReeferIce)
7-
7- Can't use C/I (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk 3 (322)) for (PFE 95829) due to car's
7- final destination (Atlanta Interchange) is not allowed by track (LIZ Trk
7- 3 (322))
7-
7- Can't use C/I (Copperhill, CH Trk 2 (120)) for (PFE 95829) due to car's
7- final destination (Atlanta Interchange) is not allowed by track (CH Trk 2
7- (120))
7-
7- Can't use C/I (Mineral Bluff, MB Siding) for (PFE 95829) due to type
7- (ReeferIce)
7-
7- Router found C/I track (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7 (ATL)) for car (PFE 95829)
7-
7- Find train for car (PFE 95829) from (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7 (ATL)) to
7- (Atlanta Interchange, ATL Trk 2)
7- Train (#120) doesn't service location (Atlanta Interchange)
7- Train (#261) can pull car (PFE 95829) from (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7 (ATL))
7- route id (14r1)
7- Train (#261) can transport car (PFE 95829) from C/I (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7
7- (ATL)) to (Atlanta Interchange, ATL Trk 2)
7- Route for car (PFE 95829): (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)->(#322)->(Elizabeth, LIZ
7- Trk7 (ATL))->(#261)->(Atlanta Interchange, ATL Trk 2)
7- Train (#322) can service car (PFE 95829) from (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) to C/I
7- (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7 (ATL))
7- Car (PFE 95829) has assigned destination (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7 (ATL))
3- Car (PFE 95829) assigned to train, destination (Elizabeth, LIZ Trk7 (ATL))

...
5- Car (WFEX 68249) type (ReeferIce) load (Peaches) at (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
5- Trks) has final destination (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) routing begins
7- Train (#322) can pull car (WFEX 68249) from (Elizabeth, Liz Yard Trks)
7- route id (18r1)
7- Train (#322) can transport car (WFEX 68249) from C/I (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
7- Trks) to (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Route for car (WFEX 68249): (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
7- Trks)->(#322)->(Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Car (WFEX 68249) has assigned destination (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Car (WFEX 68249) can be serviced later from location (Elizabeth) route id
7- (18r3)
5- Destination (Marietta) not reachable from location (Elizabeth) route id
5- (18r5)
5- Did not assign a destination for car (WFEX 68249)

...
5- Car (WFEX 68249) type (ReeferIce) load (Peaches) at (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
5- Trks) has final destination (Marietta, IGA Dr 1) routing begins
7- Train (#322) can pull car (WFEX 68249) from (Elizabeth, Liz Yard Trks)
7- route id (18r1)
7- Train (#322) can transport car (WFEX 68249) from C/I (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
7- Trks) to (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Route for car (WFEX 68249): (Elizabeth, Liz Yard
7- Trks)->(#322)->(Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
7- Car (WFEX 68249) has assigned destination (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)
3- Car (WFEX 68249) assigned to train, destination (Marietta, IGA Dr 1)

..."



Phil (aka pesky computer geek) in gorgeous Young Harris, Georgia, USA

Hello name?,

On 06/21/2017 04:27 PM, wmseapc@... [jmriusers] wrote:

After attempting everything I could check & verify that things are supposedly in order; I still am getting this error message when I try to identify any of my 12 different locos. According to the Lenz portion of the help files; Lenz is supposed to be able to work with all JMRI functions but the info stated that if you still get the Error message; # 303 in my case then report back to the JMRI user groups page which is what I am now doing!

That 303 error message, that can only be generated if the command station responds to the system with a message that says the command isn't supported.

You said in your original message you had a "Lenz 100 system". Can you be more specific? Which Lenz command station are you using? Is it an LZ100 or an LZV100? Which firmware is installed? (you can use the JMRI XPressNet System Information tool to find this, but you can also find it on a handheld throttle).

I'm really confused because the log you sent showed this at the end:

2017-06-21 16:21:14,840 jmrit.AbstractIdentify WARN - Requested operation not implemented in command station (303), trying Paged mode [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2017-06-21 16:21:17,851 jmrit.AbstractIdentify WARN - Stopping due to error: Requested operation not implemented in command station (303) [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2017-06-21 16:21:17,852 jmrit.AbstractIdentify WARN - Restoring Direct Byte mode [AWT-EventQueue-0]

Which indicates that the system tried to use direct byte mode, but that wasn't supported, so it tried to use paged mode, but that was not supported either.

(A Lenz Compact or Atlas Commander would respond this way, but no version 3.5 or newer LZ100 or LZV100 should).

Paul

Mike R,

On 06/21/2017 01:16 PM, mike_rby@... [jmriusers] wrote:

To access the loco slots on a DR5000 you need to connect to it via a Digitrax connection. I normally connect via the USB port which allows JMRI to connect by both Loconet and Xpressnet and also the DR5000 configuration software all at the same time on virtual com ports with the one cable.
From JMRI's Digitrax slot monitor you can clear slots etc.
On Xpressnet, loco function setting (F1), MU, stack and other functions do not work. It also doesn't report stack full, but will report slots full on a Digitrax throttle.
As the DR5000 is updatable, they may add these functions in the future. The RS bus has been added in the last year and a WiFi throttle is supposed to be in the works,
I haven't had success connecting a computer by WiFi, but have only tried once and the tablet I use doesn't have ethernet, so haven't done that either. I have used a LIUSB on Xpressnet which also works with JMRI.

When you connected via the LIUSB, does the system have the same limitations as when connected via the DR5000's USB port?

Just checking because it sounds to me like the device may be a bit of a work in progress, a moving target of sorts, and we may not want to put anything special to handle it in JMRI until everything settles out with the development.

(plus, from the JMRI perspective, if the LocoNet side of things works, we should be able to do everything there we would do from the XPressNet side of things.)

Paul