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Problems with both DCS210+ and PR3 with programming
开云体育Quick details: ? 5 ports designated in config… Loconet (Com4), Loconet2 (Com5), Loconet3 (virtual), Programmer (COM6), Command Station (COM3). ? When trying to program/read with DecoderPro, it always goes to the Command Station. Configuration is set for both programming options assigned to the PR3 (Programmer). All other options assigned to CS. ? Programmer is connected to computer via USB (Com6) and also to Loconet from command station. All other Loconets are set up via USB connections for secondary Loconet via LocoBuffer-USB’s. No combination of USB or LocoNet connections will affect operation of the PR3. When I first start up Panel/DecoderPro, the Program LED on the Command Station begins rapidly flashing red. I CAN still do the quick programming option through the DT602D throttle. Engines will read into DecoderPro on the programming track connected to the DCS210A+. ? I’m at a loss here. Anyone have a solution? Thanks!!! Jim Duncan ? 73 de Jim, KU0G Warrensburg, MO EM28rs ? |
udev rules on Raspberry Pi not working
I have a LocoBufferUSB and a FT232 serial adapter and I need permanent links for them, for example /dev/ttyLocobufferUSB and /dev/ttyTurntable .
lsusb shows: Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0403:c7d0 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-USB Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC I have tried different udev rules but I don't get any links. For example: SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{interface}=="LocoBuffer-USB", SYMLINK+="ttyUSBLocoBuffer" SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{interface}=="Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC", SYMLINK+="ttyUSBTurnTable" and ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="c7d0", ENV{ID_MM_CANDIDATE}="0", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*" SYMLINK+="ttyLocoBuffer" ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", ENV{ID_MM_CANDIDATE}="0", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*" SYMLINK+="ttyTurnTable" The rules are in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/90-serial-ports.rule . I have tried both restarting the RPi and this command: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger -- Daniel Bergqvist JMRI developer |
Re: Looped Layouts With SML (Part 2)
Paul, If you upload the version without the proposed fix, I can take a look at it. ? Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: Paul Wash <paul.wash@...> Subject: [jmriusers] Looped Layouts With SML (Part 2) Date: Tuesday, April 08, 2025 5:49 PM I posted about a solution to a looped layout SML validation failure when using layout editor paths, block and turnout details. This worked until we started making updates to the layout. The original post here: /g/jmriusers/message/238981 - not sure how relevant this is to the discussion at this point but it offered a hack for weird behavior at the time. Now I question my understanding of what SML is trying to do when connected to the layout. I realize this is long and confusing - but it is driving me nuts. ? To level set - the "correct" path below (1050/1060/1070/1000) is between source mast 1050 eastbound and destination mast 1000 westbound (green line/square). The problem is the SML gets confused and tries to go the other "wrong" path (1030/1020/1010/1000) and then warns that 1070 eastbound mast already exists between the blocks (red line/square). The logic is not wrong per se - but it's not what we want and there is no way to force it without brute force... ? ? The only way we figured out how to brute force the SML to take the "right" path is to merge the 1000 block tracks into a single track without the anchor points (see below image). The 1000 block is the the dashed line from 1000 on the left to 1070 on the right (above image) before merging. Is there any other way to force the path between signal mast pairs in a looped layout? Why would the extra anchor points between "tracks" confuse the SML - it is all the same block - the anchor points were just to bend the visual? ? Minor issue - the fix goofs up the visual symmetry of the layout (below) since the dashed part of the 1000 block is normally hidden and the layout is conceptually linear. By the way - we validated the same issues on track 4 (4000 block) and merging multiple splits in the same block fixed the issue there as well. ? ? More info below: - The routing table shows the metric is higher for the 4 hops East (the correct direction). Is it the extra anchors connecting the track? Does this even impact the SML or is this just routing? - You can see the signal masts set at the block boundaries - And then you see the signal mast pairs dialog box ? ? ? ? |
Looped Layouts With SML (Part 2)
I posted about a solution to a looped layout SML validation failure when using layout editor paths, block and turnout details. This worked until we started making updates to the layout. The original post here: /g/jmriusers/message/238981 - not sure how relevant this is to the discussion at this point but it offered a hack for weird behavior at the time. Now I question my understanding of what SML is trying to do when connected to the layout. I realize this is long and confusing - but it is driving me nuts.
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To level set - the "correct" path below (1050/1060/1070/1000) is between source mast 1050 eastbound and destination mast 1000 westbound (green line/square). The problem is the SML gets confused and tries to go the other "wrong" path (1030/1020/1010/1000) and then warns that 1070 eastbound mast already exists between the blocks (red line/square). The logic is not wrong per se - but it's not what we want and there is no way to force it without brute force...
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The only way we figured out how to brute force the SML to take the "right" path is to merge the 1000 block tracks into a single track without the anchor points (see below image). The 1000 block is the the dashed line from 1000 on the left to 1070 on the right (above image) before merging. Is there any other way to force the path between signal mast pairs in a looped layout? Why would the extra anchor points between "tracks" confuse the SML - it is all the same block - the anchor points were just to bend the visual?
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Minor issue - the fix goofs up the visual symmetry of the layout (below) since the dashed part of the 1000 block is normally hidden and the layout is conceptually linear. By the way - we validated the same issues on track 4 (4000 block) and merging multiple splits in the same block fixed the issue there as well.
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More info below:
- The routing table shows the metric is higher for the 4 hops East (the correct direction). Is it the extra anchors connecting the track? Does this even impact the SML or is this just routing?
- You can see the signal masts set at the block boundaries
- And then you see the signal mast pairs dialog box
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Train creeps into turnout collision
I'm still learning Dispatcher/Transits but have my three loops working independently.
Next I tried adding a second train that has to share a turnout as shown below.
Each train/transit works fine as long as they're the only train running. If I set a turnout opposite desired state is is set properly on allocation. But this fails if I run two trains coming into the turnout as above and sharing a section of track before one diverges again.
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Specifically I had train 4 running a transit loop and started a new transit for train 5. Train 4 had a "HELD" red because train 5 allocated the turnout. However, train 4 creeped up and collided with 5.
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I don't have much stopping distance because the detection is between two ghost turnouts. Train 4 had slowed way down at the yellow and came to a stop then creeped forward to collide.
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Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions
Need a writer of the automation software.
I am trying to isolate one issue at a time iam testing a singe train on a loop of 6 blocks. Using 5.10. I create a train in automation asking for 2 allocated blocks. The train starts and 2 allocated blocks appear but as soon as the train leaves b1 where it started i see 2 allocated blocks in front of the block the train is detected in followed by an unoccupied/unallocated blocks then followed by an allocated block These 3 allocated blocks with an unallocated block between the 2nd and 3rd allocated block follows the train around the loop. What’s wrong with the automation software which never had this issue ever occur in at least 15 years of using automation. Tony |
Re: Layout Panel will not display
I have ?two screens on both PCs one has stopped displaying one of the layout panels. I can move the other panel over fine.? all I get is a thumbnail in the tool bar. That image is plain white.? the other PC, windows 10 works fine. Both running the latest versions of JMRI. I’m seeing it as a PC problem not JMRI. Just suddenly started last week.? |
Re: Difference Between Compare and Reset
#decoderpro
Uli,
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Your suggestion is valid, but DecoderPro is simply not designed to facilitate such a CV by CV comparison of 2 loco CV data sets, except by laborious manual effort visually inspecting multiple screens.
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If there is some script in the package that does such a thing, I'd love to hear about it and am sure many users would as well.
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The MS Access application I have written, using imported DecoderPro data, is designed with such an operation in mind. I'm currently finalizing and testing such a CV by CV Compare operation, so I'll have to report back if I find anything revealing.
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Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions
Tony, Actually, they indicate Digitrax is working properly as long as there is a matching entry in the LocoNet monitor for the LocoNet based sensors. ?Internal sensors will also be shown but they will not normally have a related block entry. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: AD <bklyns_baseball_club@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions Date: Tuesday, April 08, 2025 10:41 AM Dear Dave Do those messages mean that the detection units from digitrax are not functioning properly? ? If they are just informative i dont need to shut them off. Can you tell me what info is being told about the blocks and sensors. Why have i never before seen them when using this profile? Tony
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PanelPro problem
#layouteditor
I created a couple turnouts. In trying to use Track Segment to connect them my cursor changes to a ?? sign when i touch the red square connection point. I press and hold shift as I do this. I do press the right hand key to connect but it just moves the turnout lines.?
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This is my hardware setup:
Digitrex DCS51 command station
loconet: using LocoNet PR3 on COM3 JMRI version 5.10+Rca461bd266 Java version 17.0.12 (en) Lenovo 82 VG x64-based PC Window 11 10.0.22631? ?
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Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions
开云体育Dear DaveDo those messages mean that the detection units from digitrax are not functioning properly? ? If they are just informative i dont need to shut them off. Can you tell me what info is being told about the blocks and sensors. Why have i never before seen them when using this profile? Tony On Apr 8, 2025, at 10:43?AM, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:
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Re: Layout Panel will not display
Howard, What do you mean by "display properly"? ? Depending on the hardware and OS settings, you might need to play with the "Force 100% scaling..." option at "Preferences -> Display". A recent update from Microsoft may also be involved. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: Howard Witt <Howard@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Layout Panel will not display Date: Tuesday, April 08, 2025 8:58 AM Hi What I should add is my PC that will display it all OK is the olfder and running windows 10.? The PC that has stopped working is a Windows 11. and the one that does work is Wordows 10 ? ? |
Re: jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions
Tony, The "slot" messages indicate Digitrax issues. The "LogData" messages are from LogixNG definitions that show the sensor and block changes. ?You can suppress these by going to Tables -> LogixNGs and deselect the checkbox for each LogixNG. ?These are used to correlate JMRI events with the LocoNet monitor events. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: AD <bklyns_baseball_club@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] jmri 5.10 automation no longer functions Date: Monday, April 07, 2025 11:55 PM Ps: ?what does all the warnings in the system console mean? Tony
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Re: Layout Panel will not display
开云体育Did both systems have the same version of JMRI? You can go forward but not backwards in versions. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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