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Re: SE8C NTXXX Commands instead of LTXXX
Chris,
By default (according to the SE8C manual I have), the SE8C has its OpSw 14 set to "thrown". This means that the SE8C gets its control messages from the DCC track signal. And, if you have the NCE DCC track signal driving your Standalone LocoNet "RailSync" wires, this would explain why you saw the NTxx messages controlling the SE8C.
But if you have SE8C OpSw 14 set to its non-default value of "closed", the SE8C will pay attention to the LocoNet "Data" wires. Your Standalone LocoNet gets its signal on the LocoNet "Data" wires via the LocoBuffer-USB, and the SE8C would therefore be controlled via JMRI "LTxx" control messages.
I suspect you had OpSw at its "default" value when the JMRI NTxx turnouts controlled the SE8C signals, and had changed SE8C OpSw 14 to "Closed" before finding that the JMRI "LTxx" turnouts were controling the SE8C signals.
Regards,
Billybob
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Re: SE8C NTXXX Commands instead of LTXXX
Bob,? that confirms one of my thoughts that it was likely picking up the NCE commands via the Rail Sync connection. But I don't know why it chose NT over LT and then changed it's mind.?
Thanks for the input.
Chris
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On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 02:00 PM, Bob Jacobsen wrote:
The SE8c can take inputs from the LocoNet cable _or_ from the track DCC signal. It could be that it decided to use the track signal with LT wasn’t working. But I’m not sure why it would do that.
Bob
On Dec 3, 2019, at 11:27 AM, heilichr via Groups.Io <heilichr@...> wrote:
Strange behavior.... I just installed my first SE8C and during initial testing it would only respond to NT commands, not LT. It has since resolved itself. Wondering what would have caused this?
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The SE8c can take inputs from the LocoNet cable _or_ from the track DCC signal. It could be that it decided to use the track signal with LT wasn’t working. But I’m not sure why it would do that. Bob On Dec 3, 2019, at 11:27 AM, heilichr via Groups.Io <heilichr@...> wrote:
Strange behavior.... I just installed my first SE8C and during initial testing it would only respond to NT commands, not LT. It has since resolved itself. Wondering what would have caused this?
Summary of my of setup (it's a frankenstein lol).
NCE PowerPro command station
JMRI 4.17.3
Stand-alone Loconet with Locobuffer USB rev N.
2 BDL168s for detection
C/MRI connection running an Arduino that runs a servo and signal lights at one turnout
Tam Valley Octopus and Octocoder running 8 servos.
All this worked fine when I connected to SE8C to the loconet (and still does). When I first connected the SE8C it appeared to be working, except that the Digitrax test signal light would not change aspect when the correct LT turnout addresses were sent from JMRI. It just stayed Red over Red. I know the SE8C was properly connected to the loconet because I was able to read and write OP-Switch settings. The signal was setup in JMRI as LT turnouts and those turnouts were used to create an SE8C signal head. When I could not get the signal to work, I decided to connect a tortoise (SW address 01) and try it. By accident, I found it would respond to to switch address NT01 but not LT01.
This prompted me to send NT addresses to the signal heads and sure enough, they worked! But the story doesn't end here. I took the SE8C to my friends Digitrax layout to set the Board ID to 8. Back at home, I reinstall it and the now signals and tortoise no longer respond to the NT addresses. Instead, they correctly respond to LT addresses and not the NT.
Yes, it works fine now. But I'm the kind of guy who needs to understand why things happen to prevent future problems. Do any of you guys have any idea what could have caused this?
Any help, explanation or theories would be greatly appreciated!
Best Regards,
Chris Heili
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SE8C NTXXX Commands instead of LTXXX
Strange behavior.... I just installed my first SE8C and during initial testing it would only respond to NT commands, not LT.? ?It has since resolved itself.? Wondering what would have caused this?
Summary of my of setup? (it's a frankenstein lol).??
NCE PowerPro command station
JMRI? 4.17.3
Stand-alone Loconet with Locobuffer USB rev N.
2? BDL168s for detection
C/MRI connection running an Arduino that runs a servo and signal lights at one turnout
Tam Valley? Octopus and Octocoder running 8 servos.
All this worked fine when I connected to SE8C to the loconet (and still does).? ?When I first connected the SE8C it appeared to be working, except that the Digitrax test signal light would not change aspect when the correct LT turnout addresses were sent from JMRI.? It just stayed Red over Red.? I know the SE8C was properly connected to the loconet because I was able to read and write OP-Switch settings.? The signal was setup in JMRI? as LT turnouts and those turnouts were used to create an SE8C signal head. When I could not get the signal to work, I decided to connect a tortoise (SW address 01) and try it. By accident, I found it would respond to to switch address NT01 but not LT01.?
This prompted me to send NT addresses to the signal heads and sure enough, they worked!? ?But the story doesn't end here.? ?I took the SE8C to my friends Digitrax layout to set the Board ID to 8.? Back at home, I reinstall it and the now signals and tortoise no longer respond to the NT addresses.? Instead, they correctly respond to LT addresses and not the NT.? ?
Yes, it works fine now.? But I'm the kind of guy who needs to understand why things happen to prevent future problems.? ?Do any of you guys have any idea what could have caused this??
Any help, explanation or theories would be greatly appreciated!
Best Regards,
Chris Heili
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Re: Test version 4.17.5 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download
Hi Bob:? Thanks for publishing.?
I can confirm a FIX in JMRI 4.17.5 for problem encountered in JMRI 4.16.
With JMRI 4.16 Panel Pro, clicking "Tools > Tables > Turnouts" would return the error "'libgluegen-rt.jnilib' cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified."? I assume this is a driver signing issue.?? With JMRI 4.17.5, this problem does not appear.
Looking forward to the next official release.? Hopefully this is still on schedule for December 2019.
--John
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Background on my environment:
Macbook Pro 15" 2019 version
Mac OS X Catalina 10.15.1
No separate Java installed; Panel Pro reports Java 1.8.0_181(en_US)
NO hardware installed, using simulator for C/MRI and ocoBufferUSB (with no config files nor scripts, just enabled in preferences)
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Ray,
I recommend that you read through the tutorial while referencing one of the demo panels. ?"CTC Tutorial.xml" is the base ABS panel while "CTC Tutorial Panel.xml" is the completed panel.?
For SSL using signal heads, you will need to look at the following areas:
- CTC Editor: ?Configure >> Defaults menu item. ?Set the signal type.
- Signal direction indicators: ?Use the signal head names for the left and right traffic signal lists.
- Call-on: ?The "Aspect" and "Called on sensor" fields will be used instead of the "Block" field.
- Indication locking: ? Use the signal head names.
I don't know what you mean by blank screen. ?When you have an issue, always look at the system console for clues. ?If you don't start it during panel loading, you can get it using Help >> System Console. ?The "Copy to clipboard" button makes it very easy to copy and paste the content of the system console to a message.?
Dave Sand
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Date: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 12:56 AM
Sorry Dave,
I screwed up and unzipped on the wrong system on the correct system zip opened fine.
Now the fun part making it work with my SSL based ABS signal panel.
I also have gotten the blank screen, so maybe an explanation of whats going wrong?
Thanks,
Ray
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Thanks for the quick response! I will try to digest the info. probably not as easy as I hoped! Regards, Marcus Staehling
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:09 AM John Russell < john@...> wrote: ZIMO offer the support for connection via USB or LAN (Ethernet) using the CAN 2.0 Protocol, as described in this pdf :-
This is described as the instructions for developers of computer control programs for model railways for the MX10. So, if you can interpret this protocol, then it can be used for either USB or Ethernet connection, if I understand this correctly. Page 9 has the PC/USB interface defined and the next page (p. 10) has the LAN/Ethernet info. If I translate these 2 pages, would that help? Is there anyone who can do write the code that JMRI needs to start talking to the MX10? looking at the details on this 58 page document, it seems a big project to develop this from scratch.
Regards
John Russell
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ZIMO offer the support for connection via USB or LAN (Ethernet) using the CAN 2.0 Protocol, as described in this pdf :-
This is described as the instructions for developers of computer control programs for model railways for the MX10. So, if you can interpret this protocol, then it can be used for either USB or Ethernet connection, if I understand this correctly. Page 9 has the PC/USB interface defined and the next page (p. 10) has the LAN/Ethernet info. If I translate these 2 pages, would that help? Is there anyone who can do write the code that JMRI needs to start talking to the MX10? looking at the details on this 58 page document, it seems a big project to develop this from scratch.
Regards
John Russell
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Thanks to all who replied. I have successfully installed and run version 2.21.65 of Engine Driver.
Craig
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On 12/3/19 7:51 AM, Steve Todd wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 05:24 AM, Craig Goodyear wrote:
What is the latest stable version of Engine Driver for Android 2.3.5?
Hi Craig,
I'd suggest 2.21.65 The changelog shows that was when EngineDriver's API version was bumped from 7 to 14. Android 2.3.5 is API 9 or 10.
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Craig,
The last version of EngineDriver that supports Android 2.3.5 (API level 10) is EngineDriver 2.21 - after that version, the minimum Android version was lifted to 4.0 (API 14) and is now at 4.03 (API 15).
You can grab that version from?
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Matt H
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Craig,
Why not navigate to here and ask your question directly to them?
John
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Date: December 3, 2019 at 7:24 AM
I have an Android device running version 2.3.5. I have been running
engine driver on this device. Because a factory reset was required, I am
not able to install from Google Play due to the version of Android.
What is the latest stable version of Engine Driver for Android 2.3.5?
Craig
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I have an Android device running version 2.3.5. I have been running engine driver on this device. Because a factory reset was required, I am not able to install from Google Play due to the version of Android.
What is the latest stable version of Engine Driver for Android 2.3.5?
Craig
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Hi Heiko,
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
For completeness and those encountering the same issue, I will modify your instruction with what I did as in JMRI in the Advanced connections the 57600 baud rate is grayed out and I cannot be changed. However, changing the Locobuffer-USB driver settings to 19200, rebooting, and running JMRI installtest at this rate will error out as expected. (Driver=19200 and JMRI=57600).
Next, I closed out of the JMRI installtest and changed the Locobuffer-USD driver settings back to 57600, rebooted, and re-ran JMRI installtest.
Now it works! I have successfully connected to my Digitrax DCS 200 Super Chief.
Thanks again, Arnie
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Marcus:
Likely not, not sure what the USB port on a given router can do... I assume only shared printer. My old Apple does that and is handled by the printer control panels. What router make and model out of curiosity...
Unless a Windows tablet running Java JMRI can't run there.
Solution as Heiko mentioned is a tablet running virtual connection to PC/Mac/Pi then to NCE. I do that with a simple Android tablet to make adjustments to the Pi running JMRI "headless(faceless)." IE no keyboard/mouse/monitor. Pi comes with VNC server in the full distribution software suite.
Jim Albanowski
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Friend,
that's probably due to a bug in JMRI 4.16ish in saving and re-reading
the baud rate from the configuration file. Thanks for the error log
entry, that's what pointed me to it.
Try the following:
1) Within JMRI, go to Preferences->Connections, change the baud rate to
something other than 57600
2) Save Preferences, Exit JMRI
3) Restart JMRI (it will obviously fail again, since the settings are wrong)
4) Within JMRI, go to Preferences->Connections, change the baud rate
back to 57600
5) Save Preferences, Exit JMRI
6) Restart JMRI
7) Check the Preferences->Defaults in case the failure put any of the
radio buttons to internal.
Hope this helps,
Heiko
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On 12/3/19 6:04 AM, atsfsap wrote: Yesterday I downloaded JMRI 4.16 and ran the Install test. I received a
306 error so I went to the rr-cirkits website and saw the message on the
home page to download a test verion 4.17.3 or higher.
After downloading JMRI 4.17.6 and installing I ran the Install test and
got the following error: Unable to create connection "LocoNet" (L). Here
is my setup, I hope someone has run into something similar and can
provide guidance.
Running Windows 10 version 1909 - Java version 1.8.0_231-b11
Using RR-Cirkits Locobuffer-USB Rev-n Version 3.0. Locobuffer Driver
version 2.8.24.0 is set for COM3 at 57,600 bps and both are functioning.
Both green lights are on.
The first error I see: jmrix.AbstractSerialPortController?? ERROR - no
match to (null) in currentBaudNumber [main]
The next line: jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager ERROR - Unable to load
[Element: <connection/>] into
jmri.jmrix.loconet.locobufferusb.configurexml.ConnectionConfigXml [main]
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Marcus,
I'm going to go with "No" because generally speaking you can neither
install JMRI on your router nor is there a reliable method to make your
tablet "think" the router's USB port is directly inside the tablet.
And if I understand your question correctly, you'd need to do one of the
two to accomplish your goal.
Have a look at Steve Todd's image for a Raspberry Pi instead:
- there you have a little server device with
JMRI installed.
Hope this helps,
Heiko
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On 12/3/19 4:49 AM, marcus0903@... wrote: I want to run JMRI on a tablet via WiFi. Can I plug the adapter to the
usb port on my router and then control it from the tablet? I thought I
saw a youtube article on the subject but now can't find it
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Yesterday I downloaded JMRI 4.16 and ran the Install test. I received a 306 error so I went to the rr-cirkits website and saw the message on the home page to download a test verion 4.17.3 or higher.
After downloading JMRI 4.17.6 and installing I ran the Install test and got the following error: Unable to create connection "LocoNet" (L). Here is my setup, I hope someone has run into something similar and can provide guidance.
Running Windows 10 version 1909 - Java version 1.8.0_231-b11
Using RR-Cirkits Locobuffer-USB Rev-n Version 3.0. Locobuffer Driver version 2.8.24.0 is set for COM3 at 57,600 bps and both are functioning. Both green lights are on.
The first error I see: jmrix.AbstractSerialPortController?? ERROR - no match to (null) in currentBaudNumber [main]
The next line: jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager ERROR - Unable to load [Element: <connection/>] into jmri.jmrix.loconet.locobufferusb.configurexml.ConnectionConfigXml [main]
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Hello, thank you Marc.? Dave why this ironic tone?? because I forgot to put my name?? I have already posted and helped here.? For MTH no problem with, I buy several in O. again thank you Marc I will try quickly.? Fran?ois
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Sorry Dave,
I screwed up and unzipped on the wrong system on the correct system zip opened fine.
Now the fun part making it work with my SSL based ABS signal panel.
I also have gotten the blank screen, so maybe an explanation of whats going wrong?
Thanks,
Ray
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